User talk:Alensha/Archive02

Signpost
Could you help me please in translating?

For example, I'd like to say:" In addition, in the Hungarian Wikipedia, the community votes for the article to be published on the main page." -- is it good? NCurse work 16:39, 9 August 2006 (UTC)


 * That's what I wanted. :) Thanks. NCurse [[Image:Edu science.png|16px]]work 17:58, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Would you be so kind as to help me? Still User:NCurse/Signpost. Please make a copy-edit, then make In the media section into prose. To be honest, I'm a science-oholic, so I can read scientific articles without any problem, but I'm in trouble when I have to translate properly common sections. :) I really like Miskolc... NCurse work 16:20, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

You're a nice, aggressive girl, Alensha :D (and I see, you are proud of Flood in Miskolc, 1878 :P) – Kdano 19:15, 2 September 2006 (UTC)


 * It was just a sketch:

Thanks for help. NCurse work 22:58, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
 * media coverage should be in prose, so we should tell people about these articles.
 * images were randomly choosen, I want to show nice and informative pictures, I just added these to have an example how it will look like...
 * I'll add hun portal.
 * "we could also write something about the growth of our encyclopedia", just go on, we'll include it. :)

LGT
Hi there: I am sorry that my placing a notability tag on this article upset you, and am also sorry to take so long to reply; I have been away. The tag does not mean that the article is bad, it just means that you need to explain why the subject deserves an encyclopedia article. Usually this means that you have to expand the article, which you have now done, and I see that the tag has gone. You, as an editor, have the right to remove tags of this type, although it is expected that in doing so you will address the problem - which of course in this case you have done. Friends?--Anthony.bradbury 07:50, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Križevci (former county) move proposal
You might want to discuss move proposals of Hungarian counties at Talk:Križevci (former county). -  AjaxSmack   18:09, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Géza Lakatos, Miskolc, etc
Hi, on 12 November 2005, you edited Géza Lakatos article and inserted " Adelaide, My 24, 1967 " for place and date of his death. I wonder if you could check your source and confirm. I have a different place and date (Sydney, May 21, 1967) Ref. Kursietis, Andris J.  The Hungarian Army and its Military Leadership in World War II.

On a separate note - Do you have any information or sources on Miskolc's history during the 1956 uprising and the role played by the army vis a vis the AVO. (I understand that the military barracks were across the road from AVO headquarters.) I am researching various aspects of Hungarian military history and am anxious to get my facts right. Thanks, Bardwell 12:53, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

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Vitkovics
Szia, nem tudnád feltölteni esetleg a magyar wikiről az angolra azt a képet, ami a Vitkovics Mihály szócikket illusztrálja? Én nem nagyon értek hozzá, meg nem is vagyok regisztrálva a magyaron, úgyhogy le se tudom tölteni magamnak. Azért kellene, mert Panonian írt egy szócikket a magyarországi szerbekről és Petőfit rakta be illusztrációnak. Sikerült meggyőznöm róla, hogy ez így kicsit gáz, és elfogadná Petőfi helyett a Vitkovics képet. Ha van egy kis időd a dologra előre is köszi. Zello 18:29, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Košice again
I'd fixed this. Juro looks as chased out by trolls. Pavel Vozenilek 12:52, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

1956 revolution
Szia Alensha, the 1956 Hungarian revolution is on the Article Creation and Improvement Drive (shortcut: WP:AID) in the hopes that we can get it all cleaned up nice and ready to be the featured article on Oct. 23, the 50th anniversary of the uprising! The thing is, it needs votes. (This whole campaign was actually user:Istvan's idea but I'm helping him out.) I'm just randomly typing messages to various Hungarian Wikipedians encouraging them to go vote. Would you please help up out? Hajrá Magyarország! ;) K. Lastochka 00:07, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Thank you Alensha and Lastochka, I caught your post re: the Hungarian aricle - I wouldnt say its without merit, there are quite a few valuable but disjointed facts listed which could be brought over to the English site - perhaps doing this first, before backtranslating the En:article would at least allow you to say it actually had the Hungarian input first. BTW, Im happy this has your attention. Istvan 13:51, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Szívesen! I love barnstars....thinking of creating an even more prestigious Hungarian one for when the article gets FA and we can all bask in our own glory. :) Love, Lastocska K. Lastochka 16:25, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

Archduchess Walburga + sisters
I basically moved these articles because they were located at NN, Archduchess of Austria, which isn't the right title for princesses. I think it's actually used for grand dukes and some kings, ie, Ernest Louis, Grand Duke of Hesse, and not used to title princesses or archduchesses. Morhange 03:56, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

September 2006 Riots
Hello Alensha, Your report of Szonda Ipsos poll forecasts for the upcoming local elections are very interesting. + * In towns having less than 10,000 inhabitants: Fidesz 38%, MSZP 19% + * In larger towns: Fidesz 30%, MSZP 26% + * In cities with county rights: Fidesz 35%, MSZP 19% + * In the capital: Fidesz 27%, MSZP 27%. +   + (Source: MTI Report, September 22, 2006. )

These figures confirm the impression I formed on a visit to Hungary earlier this year that there is a significant divide, in many respects, between the capital (Budapest) and rest of Hungary. Do you have any information / statistics / etc., or your own views, why MSZP is running neck and neck with Fidesz in the capital, but trailing significantly in the rest of the country? In what way does the electoral demography of the capital differ from the rest of Hungary? On a different note - your excellent reports on what’s going on there might not be reaching their target audience cose wiki page "2006 protests in Hungary‎" is not integrated into any of the 'mainstream' Hungary pages, where one would naturally look for info. I came across your reports by chance. Regards (and take care!), Bardwell 23:39, 22 September 2006 (UTC) Many thanks! BTW - are you aware of wikinews? See: http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Main_Page. Your on-the-spot reporting would fit there v. nicely, I think, and would get greater exposure. Bardwell 12:39, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

Segíts kérlek!
Üdv! A segítségedre lenne szükségem. Írtam egy cikket a Délvidéki vérengzédekről, de PANNONIAN minduntalan kiforgatja és a cikk már-már arról szól, hogy a magyarok mind szemét nácik akik a szerbeket gyilkolták. Hol ott arról írok, hogy a jugoszláv partizánok 40000 ártatlan magyar embert mészároltak le. Kérlek segíts megmenteni a szócikket, és ne hagyd, hogy az ártatlan áldozatok nevét bemocskolják. A link: 1944-1945 Killings in Bačka HunTheGoaT 18:57, 29 September 2006 (CEST)

My RfA
Thanks for the vote and mostly the note. I promise I'll help you with even the Miskolc-related articles. :) NCurse work 14:53, 30 September 2006 (UTC)




 * Fixed. Nemcsak, h nem haragszom, de egyenesen megkérlek, hogy máskor javíts bele nyugodtan. Én amolyan gyakorlati angolt beszélek. :) NCurse work 13:36, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

signature test – Alensha    talk  21:17, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Re: 2006 protests and elections
I'd be glad to help, but I can't promise anything. I only have a few minutes of Wiki time at a stretch and I'd rather fix the HuWiki articles when I have more time. You know, to practice the language. ;)

-- nyenyec &#9742; 03:49, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Hungary portal
Jó napot Alensha! I do indeed love Hungary--basically I'm Hungarian like Liszt Ferenc was: hardly any actual ethnic Magyar blood, but patriotic Hungarian to the core. :) I'd love to contribute to the Hungary portal--can't promise I'd be able to do stuff every week but I'll gladly help out if I'm needed. I can be of most use on culture-related stuff, especially music as that is my area of expertise. :) By the way, how about that vote of confidence, eh? I thought for sure Gyurcsi was political dead meat!! Is the rest of the country as annoyed as I am? :) K. Lastochka 17:13, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

Excellent! Glad to see NCurse is an admin too! I'm with you on the political crap--if I were suddenly granted Hungarian citizenship I'd probably be one of those "hold your nose and vote Fidesz" types, at least for now, but I'd try to stay out of politics. K. Lastochka 18:22, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

Are they really that close to KDNP?? I was under the impression that they were just your basic centre-right party. K. Lastochka 18:32, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

Yuck! What a mess! Fidesz should go back to its roots, and kick out all the fascists. Either that or we can form our own party. :)K. Lastochka 18:42, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

OK, no more politics talk then....didn't know it was discouraged! K. Lastochka 19:21, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

Signature
Hello, Alensha! Could you kindly remove the image in your signature? Images arent allowed per the signature guidlines. Thank you.--thunderboltz(Deepu) 19:00, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks! :) --thunderboltz(Deepu) 15:32, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Szia Alensha, I bet you could use your flower signature if you put the whole thing inside a box. I see that everywhere... Istvan 05:23, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Budapest railway stations
Regarding your comment on my talk page, my recent moves of the Budapest station articles were motivated by the prior work done on articles akin to the likes of Berlin Hauptbahnhof and Praha hlavní nádraží. Whilst I would normally agree with your argument that on the English Wikipedia English placenames should be used, it is a slightly different matter with railway stations. Most railway operators in continental Europe use the original names for the stations their trains pass through (i.e. a train going from Brussels via Munich to Prague would likely be labelled as Bruxelles-München-Praha), so I believe this to be an exception to the rule.

There's also been a discussion on Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Trains which might be of interest regarding this subject matter.

Regarding your comment about the name being "grammatically wrong", I used and  which both list the station as "Budapest keleti pu". It is also commonly found on destination indicators abroad. If there is any official MÁV station naming scheme, I'm interested to hear of it, but I highly doubt that even MÁV omits the "Budapest". --doco ( ☏ ) 19:47, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

Arguments for both sides
It may be odd but I can't really take sides in this matter.

Arguments for using English: Arguments for preserving the Hungarian:
 * 1) easier to browse and identify for 99.99% of readers
 * 2) (could be) universal through the English-language Wikipedia.
 * 1) translations may sound silly or unusual for native speakers (just imagine Piccadilly Körönd – example from Problem English, ISBN 9631833240, p. 126), due to the mixed associations and/or the different naming conventions in different cultures
 * 2) translations almost always can be debated; often as many guide books, as many translations; one may express the basic idea more faithfully while another version may be more widespread etc.
 * 3) they don't help the reader identify the actual name of the place in question
 * 4) if someone is really interested in a country, they can pick up the words for "street", "square", "railway station" in about one minute; constraining the translated form may become somewhat affected afterwards
 * 5) it's hard to draw a line between things common enough to be translated and less important things where a translation can only be occasional and arbitrary.

Adam78 20:41, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

All right, Keleti Railway Station is a good compromise, I think! Adam78 13:27, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Party election results
Hello. I've been inserting the tables found on Hungarian political parties that show the number of seats and votes won, etc. If you could sort of go through them, maybe translating the footnotes from Hungarian, that would be nice. More importantly, though, there's a problem with Fidesz. The Hungarian version says that it won 266,689 votes in 1990 and 279,686 in 1994; the English one says 439,481 and 379,295. If you happen to know the actual numbers, please tell me so that I can make an accurate table for Fidesz as well. Thank you. Biruitorul 22:03, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
 * OK, thanks a lot for looking. Biruitorul 21:18, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

My RfA
Ajjajjajj... :) NCurse work 18:37, 8 October 2006 (UTC)


 * No, these adjectives do not really affect the outcome of the voting. These are just emotional votes. :) NCurse work 05:45, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
 * :) Thanks for the answer :) – Alensha   talk  14:38, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Translation
Hi! Would you please check and correc the translation listed here? Thank you! - Serinde 12:16, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

56
Thanks Alensha for your help and support! (what happened to your flower icon?) Istvan 21:28, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Hi Alensha, you may be happy to hear that 56 is now scheduled FA for 23 October. Istvan 04:55, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Hi Alensha, I have some interesting 56 political posters that could help your page - authors unknown - do you know the copyright status of political posters and gov't proclamations?? Whenever I do something on the commons, I get hammered for not having the copyright info in order... Istvan 04:20, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

userboxes
hahaha I just found all your userboxes on that special page! Great stuff! I borrowed your Fidesz one for myself, I've made myself a few (check my userpage, they're the patriot one and the Vaclav Havel one) which you are welcome to appropriate for yourself if you like. :) K. Lastochka 01:26, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

How do I do that??K. Lastochka 19:10, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Mancs
u probably know this, being from Miskolc and all, but Mancs is dead! K. Lastochka 14:57, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Awww....poor guy. Go light a little candle at his statue for me, will you? :) K. Lastochka 00:18, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Done. – Alensha   talk  17:55, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

RIP, Béka poraira. Hű kis kutya volt. ♥ ♥ ♥ : Gubb   ✍  2006. October 28 08:37 (CEST) 08:37, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Re: protests '06

 * 

Amongst damns : I would like to mean "káromkodások közepette" (értesüléseim szerint, az ábrahámita vallások főalakját, a világot kormányzó tiszta szellemi entitást többek közt azzal vádolták ezek a balfék rendőrök, hogy üzletszerű kéjelgést folytat - ami egy abszolúte szellemi entitással kapcsolatban nemcsak durva sértés, hanem triviálisan butaság, és különben sem érthető, hogyha egy entitást vádoltak ezzel, akkor miért nem azt tartóztatják le és miért a papjait rugdossák). ♥ ♥ ♥ : Gubb   ✍  2006. October 28 08:37 (CEST) 08:37, 28 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Oh, I get it now. I'll correct it if someone hasn't done so already. – Alensha   talk  17:55, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

Survey Q
Have you ever been to the southern hemisphere, click here to reply.AstroBoy 01:46, 11 November 2006 (UTC) Deadline for entries is December 15th

Re : Undeletion of "Special moments of Hungary's 1956 uprising"
I've looked through the whole thing again. I'm sorry, but I afraid I'll have to tell you to run it through deletion review instead. And you may or may not have a case because it is likely that editors will tell you to avoid Wikipedia itself as a self-reference (although you can use the sources in the original article, untranslated), and the English Wikipedia doesn't really accept anything considered as "trivia" these days. - Best regards, Mailer Diablo 08:29, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

South American Community of Nations
Hey, how are you? Having a look at the discussion of the article in question I could notice how you congratulated and supported the SACN. I just wanna thank you for your nice words and your feeling for South America as a whole. Unfortunately, I cannot see the changes we were supposed to experience with the Union. Recently, there has been a meeting in which every associate member agreed to revoke the so-called visa. This visa, as you may know, was a compulsory and expensive document required when travelling from one country to the other. I'm pretty sure this fact is really important for us as a subcontinent, because it allows everyone to cross the border for a maximum of 90 days without showing any documentation. Anyway, there are still many things to do. I hope we can see the difference in a couple of years time. Greetings from an Uruguayan citizen living in the European Union. --Gustave - May I help you? 22:46, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Hungary portal, and problem articles
Szia! I'm sorry I haven't been helping out on the portal, I've been pretty busy and actually I'm not entirely sure how to manage a portal. :) So if you need/want help on anything, just let me know and I'll do whatever I can. I'm still pretty busy for the next few weeks but will be able to do some work here. :)

BTW, I noticed on the portal talk page that there is a big list of articles that need lots of work--Magyarization, KoH, Trianon etc.....I completely agree that they are a big mess. (I made the mistake of getting involved in some weird nationalist arguments a few weeks ago, sent my wikistress level through the roof!) I've noticed that those articles are usually monopolized by a certain alliance of Slovakian and Serbian wikipedians who are very vigilant to let their own rather POV version of events dominate the article, and any time any of us comes along to try and balance it or correct misleading statements, we get jumped on and discredited just for being Hungarian. I'm well aware that we have our own obnoxious POV-pushers, but even those of us with no "bad nationalist" agenda get slammed along with the obnoxious ones--leading to a stalemate. :( It was mentioned on the problem article list that a Wikiproject might be needed to clean up the mess. I think that's a good idea--but i came up with an idea of my own last night, thought I might run it by you: a lot of the charges leveled against us on those articles are obviously ones of blind nationalism, saying that "of course, no one, and especially not the Hungarians, can be trusted to see their own history in a balanced NPOV way." There is indeed some truth to that, for every country. So what I was thinking is, how about we form some sort of informal "alliance" with a bunch of wikipedians from somewhere else? I was considering asking the Poles--we've historically been friendly with them, and the Polish wikipedians (especially Piotrus!!) are amazingly well-organized and professional (have you SEEN their portal and noticeboard?!). What I'm thinking is they could help resolve some of our disputes, they could be a friendly-yet-critical, reliable source of copyediting, information from more neutral sources etc., and in return we could help them with whatever similar problems they encounter. (Just think: "The Alliance of Polish and Hungarian Wikipedians"!)

I know it might sound a little silly! :) It was just a random late-night idea I had, and I've always wanted to play diplomat and forge some great alliance. Why not here on Wikipedia, all for the good of the encyclopedia? :) Just a thought. :) K. Lástocska 18:15, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Szia! I thought of that too, if we do try and start a little "alliance" we should make it very clear it's not some sort of Anti-Slovak-and-Serbian Society. :) That's not my intent in the slightest. My idea really was just to have a reliable, friendly but also critical group of people to help us out if our credibility is questioned (by anyone, not just the Slovak-Serb group), help resolve disputes (again, with anyone), neutrally let us know when we DO get too POV, etc. And of course we would help them however we can. I remember back in August when the 56 project was just barely starting (still on the AID drive!), István suggested that we could enlist a group of Czechs to help us with 56, then when it came the Prague Spring's turn for an FA anniversary celebration, we would return the favor. But I couldn't find any big organized groups of Czechs, so that didn't happen. I imagine doing something similar with the Poles--and it wouldn't be all dispute resolution and arguing with annoying nationalists either, our countries have historically been pretty close and there is a lot of good we could jointly do on ordinary history and culture articles. :) K. Lástocska 21:06, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Jeszcze Polska nie zginiela! :) I don't have any Polish blood (as far as I know) but I completely adore the country and the people, for all their eccentricities. :) Poland and Hungary seem to have a lot in common--mainly how we've both been kicked around and caught in the crossfire every single time the big European powers start fighting. Arrrgh... :) anyways yes, I'll ask the Poles. I might leave a talk-page message for Piotrus first, just to see if it is a good idea from his perspective, and then maybe post something about it on the Polish noticeboard. :)

Is it really your birthday btw? If if is, happy birthday!!! K. Lástocska 21:43, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Miskolc
Nice portal, congratulation!

and

HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU!!!!!!!!!! :-)

--Bináris 21:06, 2 December 2006 (UTC) Megelőztek :))

Happy Birthday!! And congrats on Miskolc!--Dami 21:50, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

My RfA
Thanks a lot for your nice comments and support < :) > ! I appreciate it. Biruitorul 22:18, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Thank you for consoling me. I will let you know if I'm up again - probably not before July/August. Biruitorul 18:22, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

portal
I know it's a little early, but I just updated the portal. It's easier than I thought! :) K. Lástocska 15:43, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

I know, I just wanted to do something special for Puskás Öcsi. I just finished listening to the broadcast from his funeral on Petőfi Rádió...I think I'll go curl up under the covers and cry like a baby now....K. Lástocska 16:13, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Merry Christmas


Hi Alensha! I just want to say Merry Christmas to you! Have a nice holiday time. - Darwinek 19:38, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Nice to have also greeting in Hungarian. It is nice we have birthday on the same day. Also one more thing connect us: "Lengyel, Magyar két jó barát, együtt harcol s issza borát". :D - Darwinek 23:47, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I noticed someone translated it to EN Wiki today :). Unfortunately, PL Wiki doesn't have article about this one. - Darwinek 21:36, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

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Re: Egypt
Hello there:

Glad you liked the blog entry about the visit to Berlin, and the Ägyptisches Museum there. Am very much a museum enthusiast, and was just lucky that a business trip landed me in a hotel that was just up the street from "Museum Island". I have another business-related trip to Boston in February and am hoping to make a visit to the Museum of Fine Arts while there. The previous week I made a point of photographing the Egyptian exhibits at the local (to me) Royal Ontario Museum, and I plan to upload those over the next few days, so there will be more to come on the Commons. The organization efforts of the images there are really just part of trying to tie together all of the usable images documenting Ancient Egyptian history.

As for the English Egyptology wikiproject, please just add your name to the list! Of those listed there, the contributors I run into most are Thanatosimii, Markh, and more occasionally llywrch. Thanatosimii and I worked on bringing the Ahmose I article up to Feature Article status, I have lent a hand to Marhk's efforts on the Valley of the Kings, and I am also helping to add to the Thutmose III article prior to submitting it for peer review. The collaborations tend to be informal, but together we have been able to improve a significant number of articles on the topic of Ancient Egypt.

As for the templates, best thing is to simply start with a template of interest and use your own sandbox to play in. Probably the most useful thing to do would be to head to the page of a given pharaoh, such as Ay, and look at the use the "Pharaoh Infobox" template &mdash;which is arguably the most useful template currently in use &mdash; and consider applying it to articles of pharaohs using the "old style", such as Shepseskare Isi for example. This will give you a bit of a feel for how the templates are used in general. In terms of how to enter the text to appear in a cartouche, there are two methods: see List of hieroglyphs/german-Gardiner-list-translated and Gardiner's Sign List. I believe this functionality is built into a Unicode library supporting Ancient Egyptian on Wikipedia -- it just needs to be invoked within a template to be displayed.

Cheers from Toronto! Captmondo 03:50, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

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little question
Szia Alensha, I've got a sort of stupid request. Yesterday I left a message for NCurse about a slightly disturbing statement somebody made on an article talk page, asking if it was something we should worry about. He replied, but entirely in Hungarian. You know me, I'm only half-magyar, born in exile the United States, and my Hungarian is atrocious. :( I tried translating it but I'm not sure I got it right. When you have some spare time, can you take a look at it, my reply to NCurse's reply and tell me if I've missed something? Nagyon szépen köszönöm....K. Lásztocska 15:25, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Köszi! That's what I thought he said but I just wanted to make sure, I really appreciate your help. :) (I promise, I'm studying magyar, soon enough I'll be able to translate on my own...)K. Lásztocska 19:51, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

szia!
Hi! Thanks for your note, I'm going to break my wikibreak for a while to respond. :)

Yeah, I am female. I know the football stuff, plus the military history of 56, is kind of a "guy thing"--I get that a lot, also because I rarely indulge in "girl talk", I always surprise people online when I reveal my true gender. I put that "this user is female" box up there after one too many people called me "Mr. Lásztocska". :)

"Pusztalakó" still makes me laugh. He doesn't mind, does he? You should have a nickname just based on the word "város", to contrast the city with the great big empty Alföld. And don't worry, when I ever make it back to the old country I'll visit Miskolc AND Debrecen. But given my current unfortunate situation I should maybe be nicknamed "Külföldi" !!!

István really wants to see the Puskás article as FA on April 2, for what would have been his (Puskás, that is) 80th birthday. I'm with him (István) as usual, only I'm totally useless so far because I really don't know much about him that isn't already in the article. I'm trying to get a copy of his autobiography "Puskás on Puskás" but it seems to have totally vanished from every bookseller in this godforsaken country...if I find it I'll be back to help out, otherwise will still be obscure for a while. Keep an eye on the Franz Liszt article for me in my absence, will you please? Lately he's been the target of vandals and trolls asserting he was REALLY Slovak, or Austrian, or German, or anything but magyar. Knowing how much he loved Hungary, it's quite an insult to say otherwise--see my rant on the List of Austrians talk page. :)

Anyway, hope everything goes well here, on HuWiki and in real life! I'll be back soon (and probably still around sporadically in the meantime.)

K. Lásztocska 16:13, 7 January 2007 (UTC) (a.k.a. Külföldi!) :)

I wish I was planning to visit Hungary. Or Kassa, wherever that is now. :) No, I'm stuck stateside for at least the next four years--I might try and study at the Liszt Ferenc Zeneakademia in BP after that. But have fun at the meetup, say hello to everyone for me. Thanks for the eBay link--British Amazon.com seems to have some copies too. (Always count on the English to have everything relating to football...) Cheers, K. Lásztocska 18:44, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

People born in Jerusalem
Hi,

I've noticed you was the editor who added the split request to the Jerusalem article. Was that list moved to somewhere or was it simply deleted by the anonymous user who edited it at 17:24, 9 January 2007? I noticed this quite accidentally (I was searching for that section of the article in the page history because I need the template that arranged the list into nice columns), and now I don't know whether I stumbled upon unnoticed vandalism or the list is safely moved to somewhere. – Alensha   talk  15:19, 12 January 2007 (UTC)


 * To be honest, I'm not sure what happened to it either. I saw the list had suddenly disappeared, but not moved to another article. I just didn't say anything about it because I didn't think it was necessary for the article anyway and surmised that someone else had agreed with me on that point. --  tariq abjotu  15:32, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Universelles Leben
Thank you for editing Univerzális Élet. I am unilingual in English and I only have an account for Main page. Since you have an account in Kezdőlap, maybe you could add an interwiki link to Universal Life on Univerzális Élet. That way, Hungarian-speakers who are browsing the Hungarian article will notice there is a corresponding English page, and hopefully some of them will also know English and translate some of the Hungarian article and post the English translation onto Universal Life. Universal Life is still a stub. Both the history pages of Życie Uniwersalne and Univerzális Élet have many more users than the history page of Universal Life. I'm curious if there is any info on Univerzális Élet that doesn't appear on Universal Life. I think it's weird that of all the languages the Universelles Leben has been translated into, English is the one with the article that is the shortest. Anyway, if you ever decide to write in English on Universal Life, I'm sure I will find it helpful and enjoy reading your contribution.

I do not have a professional level of English, but I am a native speaker, and I think this line of yours is incorrect: "I work as a translator from the English into Hungarian)." I think the word "the" shouldn't be there, and I think the parenthesis after the word "Hungarian" shouldn't be there either (since the beginning parenthesis is missing). However, I have not read your entire userpage, so I could be wrong.

This is only my second post on a User talk page, so I hope I haven't made any mistakes!--Xandiar 05:09, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
for your welcome note on the Talk:Romania page, related to my country's admission in the EU. merryXIV 23:13, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Mutemwiya
The reason I removed the Artatama Mitannian info. is that absolutely nothing is known about her origins. That is why Aidan Dodson--who is a true professional Egyptologist--says nothing about her background in his book on Egypt's royal families. No one can prove if she was linked to the family of Yuya--or not because no text or document mentions her paternity! If her son hadn't become king, she would have remained an obscure minor wife of Thutmose IV. The O'Connor & Cline book just quotes Betsy Bryan's book the reign of Thutmose IV in stating that claims that Mutemwiya was from Mitanni are likely unfounded and merely an attempt to add colour to her unknown origin. The same goes for claims that she was linked to Yuya since this is pure speculation without proof. When nothing is known of one's origins, anyone can dwell and speculate on her true origins but Wikipedia shoult dwell on the facts. Thank You. 24.87.136.31 03:50, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Dear Madam, I have Nicolas Grimal's 1992 book titled 'A History of Ancient Egypt'. Grimal--who is also a professional scholar--writes that Mutemwia is "wrongly identified as the daughter of Artatama I" as once thought. (p.221) Frankly, many people would like to say that King X or Lady Y was the son or daughter of this person or that when we know absolutely nothing about King X or Lady Y's family history from the historical texts. In this vacuum, people make all sorts of guesses--whether they are absed on facts or not. I should stress that king Siptah was once thought to be the son of Tiaa, one of Seti II's wives even though no historical document mentioned his parentage. Some Egyptologists just guessed that it was Tiaa! But then 4 years ago, scholars found a relief from the Louvre museum which establishes that Siptah was actually the son of an unknown Canaanite woman named Sutailja. She was probably a king's concubine. So, now, all the previous theories about Siptah's mother have been discredited! This shows that it is safer to say that nothing is known about Mutemwia or Siptah's parents rather than to speculate because a new discovery could make everyone look foolish. I hope this helps. Fabian 24.87.136.31 09:25, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

I did not remove the reference to Yuya's possible Mitannian ancestry because no Egyptologist that I know of can dispute this theory. In contrast, both Betsy Bryan--who wrote a 1991 biography on Thutmose IV and knowsmore about the situation here, Nicolas Grimal and Aidan Dodson--by omission in the later case state or imply that Mutemwiya was not a daughter of Artatama. You have to read Betsy Bryan's book to see all the reasons why she rejects the previous assertion that she was Mitannian. Yuya, however, is a major problem. His name can be rendered in several different ways--not just Yuya but Iouiya for instance. Someone once gave me 4-5 different spellings of his name. This is not normal and MAY suggest that Yuya was a non-Egyptian though not necessarily from Mitanni. I've always thought he was Egyptian since he came from Akhmin in Upper Egypt which was mostly native Egyptian but his name is rather rare. So far no scholar can dispute Yuya's foreign origins; so, I prefer to leave the reference to Yuya's alleged Mitanni background in place and just cite the source fror this belief--Gaston Maspero's analysis in Theodore Davis' 1907 book on the discovery of Yuya's tomb. Imagine, its now 100 years and we still don't know if Yuya was Egyptian or not. This shows just how far Egyptology has come in this matter! Regards.

There are 5 different spellings for Yuya. (I found the message) The variations are "iAy", ywiA", ywA [reed-leaf with walking feet], ywiw" and, in orthography, usually a sign of something foreign, "yiA"[man with hand to mouth]. The spellings all come from Maspero's comments on Yuya in Davis' 1907 book. My contact says that "it is not usual to have so many spelling variants" for an Egyptian name which hints at a non-Egyptian origin for Yuya. However, she states that there are many known foreigners from Upper Egypt since the famed Brooklyn Papyrus lists 95 servants. "A list of them is included which states their titles, names and surnames, and their occupations. Of the seventy-seven entries which are presented well enough to enable the individual's nationality to be read, twenty-nine appear to be Egyptian while forty-eight are 'Asiatics' . . . Although the foreign names were not precise enough to enable the exact homeland of these Asiatics to be identified, it can be said that they were from a 'Semitic group of the north west' . . . The Brooklyn Papyrus is important here because it shows that one household employed a large proportion of Asiatics and this household was situated in Upper Egypt (the south) and not in the Delta; therefore it is apparent that Asiatic servants were by now disseminated throughout the community." The Pyramid Builders of Ancient Egypt, pp.189-190.24.87.136.31 21:26, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

No, I don't know how to do hierolyphic signs. Sorry. 24.87.136.31 01:24, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Dear Alensha, I don't know to type in hieroglyphs at all but I know someone on Wikipedia who does! Here is the web link for the list of changes for the Wikipedia article on The Sea Peoples. You will notice that a user named Flembes added the hieroglyphs for the Sea Peoples in his first post on the subject on October 25 at 9:30. click on last to see how he does it. Flembes is the one you want; he has added hieroglyphics for other Egyptian articles too, I notice. You should contact him. I'm just not technically proficient here but I will add the 5 ways of spelling Yuya's name on Wikipedia's article on Yuya. It was nice talking with you. 24.87.136.31 09:02, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Hungary-history-stub
Hi - it has come to our notice that you have recently created a new stub type. As it clearly states at WP:STUB, at the top of most stub categories, on the template page for new Wikiprojects and in many other places on Wikipedia, new stub types should be proposed prior to creation at WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals, in order to check whether the new stub type is already covered by existing stub types, whether it is named according to stub naming guidelines, whether it reaches the standard threshold for creation of a new stub type, whether it crosses existing stub type hierarchies, and whether better use could be made of a WikiProject-specific talk page template.

In the case of your new stub type, while it looks a reasonable category and will almost certainly reach the required number of stubs, it is not named according to stub naming guidelines and will probably be renamed to the more standard Hungary-hist-stub. Your new stub type is currently listed at WP:WSS/D - please feel free to make any comments there. And please, in future, propose new stub types first! Grutness...wha?  02:13, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Third Hungarian Republic

 * Már fél éve firkantottam, nem is emlékeztem rá. Arra sem, konkrétan miért. De így jobb.  Cserlajos  (talk) (contribs) 09:11, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Non-standard capitalization of names
Hello, I saw your post at Talk:Bell hooks regarding the related capitalization issue. There is currently a similar, somewhat stagnating discussion at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (capital letters), for which I am trying to render input by more editors. Hence I was wondering whether you would like to comment. Regards - Cyrus XIII 09:00, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Christiane Desroches Noblecourt
No problem. The main stumbling block the translator and I have come across is that the description of the transportation of the temple of Amada is very unclear in the original French. Do you know how this temple was in fact moved? I'm not sure my present description is totally accurate... WJBscribe 23:49, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Beketaten
Dear Alensha, I notice you frequently cite Aidan Dodson's useful 2004 book on Egypt's royal families in your posts regarding various Egyptian personalities. You probably have a copy of it in your home. Does Dodson make any comments concerning Beketaten--ie: her identity, etc? Beketaten does not appear as one of Akhenaten's 6 daughters. I strongly doubt that she is Nebetah for one reason. Unlike Amenhotep III's other 3 daughters, she is only attested once in the historical records by a colossal statue. She is not mentioned in small items, unlike her three sisters. This suggests to me that she had a brief life. Leoboudv 10:21, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Beketaten was the daughter of Amenhotep III? That's strange. Maybe it is based on new information. I have a photocopy of Cline & O'Connor's comprehensive 1998 book on Amenhotep III's reign and they state that Amenhotep III had only 4 known daughters with Queen Tiye: Sitamun, Henuttaneb, Isis or Aset and Nebetah. I gave my reference in the 'Family' section of Amenhotep III. On the theory of a Amenhotep-Akhenaten coregency, I reject the idea because the tomb of Amenhotep III always his prenomen written as Nebmaatre Amehotep--a situation which is imposible in a 19+ year long coregency. In contrast, in Akhenaten's reign, Amenhotep III's name was always written as 'Nebmaatre Nebmaatre' to avoid mentioning his father's Amun affiliated birth name. Also, a diplomatic letter addressed to Akhenaten is now believed to date to Year 2, rather than Year 12, of Akhenaten's reign as Aldred once thought. I wrote an Amazon.com review on Nicholas Reeves book "Akhenaten: Egypt's False Prophet" and it is still online there concerning these points. You can look it up. Regards, Fabian Leoboudv 20:33, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

As an Aside, I recently expanded the article on Ramesses IV by including more information on this king's various expeditions and providing a short list of attestations for him under my anonymous 24.87, etc log in No. Someone wrote here previously that his Queen was a certain Tetopet but I know nothing about her. I assume it is true but I don't even know if her name is spelled Tetopet? If Dodson's book includes any comments on her, I invite you to add in some information on her currently blank Wikipedia web page--if you wish--since you have done the same for other Egyptian personalities. With kind Regards. Fabian Leoboudv 02:32, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the update. I will change the reference to Beketaten being Akhenaten's daughter in the Nebetah page if you haven't already. Reeves book is very good on the reign of terror of Akhenaten's reign as well as the paranoia which afflicted his reign. He also correctly rejects a long coregency. But Reeves proposed identification of the male mummy in KV55 as Akhenaten is wrong; it is the body of a young man between age 19-20 years old. I have Bob Brier's 1998 book on an Encyclopedia of Ancient Egypt who confirms this based on the kings bones. This is far too young for Akhenaten since the latter had 6 children in his reign and was obviously a mature adult at his accession. Secondly, his proposed identification--based on John Harris GM 1973 paper--that a ruler named Neferneferuaten was both Nefertiti and later king Smenkhkare is wrong--since several epithets given to her have the words "effective for her husband." So, the king Smenkhkare would be the young man in KV55 who died by age 20. I plan to post some information on Smenkhkare one day. PS: James Allen, in a forthcoming book in memory of Bill Murnane, thinks Nefertiti died before her husband's name and that the ruler Neferneferuaten was one of Akhenaten's five living daughters; see his article here: Regards, Leoboudv 20:43, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

I added a small amount of the deleted information on Sitamun back to her article. She lived in a time when women featured prominently in history. I also added some references. Hope you approve. I did not save the reference to the Crown Prince Thutmose as you suggested. It was nice contacting you. PS: Thanks for the help on Ramesses IV's wife. Goodbye. Leoboudv 03:47, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Christiane Desroches Noblecourt
No problem - this was a really interesting article. I love translating, so if you know of any other good French (or Spanish) articles that don't exist in English, let me know! Rachel88 21:29, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Another translation request
Szia Alensha! Would you be able to translate the Nagybocskó and Nagybocskó (Románia) articles for me? I would really appreciate it. Thanks, Khoikhoi 08:15, 17 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much. :-) The situation with Nagybocskó reminds me of the situation with Komárom and Komárno. Also, I noticed that Bocicoiu Mare says "In 1992 Bocicoiu Mare and Lonka, which belongs to it..." I'm pretty sure that Lonka today is split in two as well. The northern part is called Луг ("Luh"), and the southern part is called Lunca la Tisa. Perhaps it should be changed? As for the Toldeo pic, thanks! I thought it was too big when I added it, but I haven't got tired so far of looking at it. Khoikhoi 05:42, 19 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Ok, please keep me updated. Cheers, Khoikhoi 05:51, 21 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Great. According to this:


 * This Romanian Communa consists of
 * Bociciou Mare (Administrative Center)
 * Craciunesti (Jewish Religious Center)
 * Tisa
 * Lug
 * Ukrainian Town – Velykiv Bychkiv, Zakarpatska, Ukraine


 * I'm guessing that "Lug" (which is another transliteration for "Луг"), is in fact Lunca la Tisa. Also, I noticed that the two articles now contradict each other. Bocicoiu Mare says "The village was first mentioned in 1373, by the name Boshko.", while Velykyy Bychkiv says "The village was first mentioned in 1358, by the name Buchku." Which one is correct? Khoikhoi 01:28, 22 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Oh, ok. Thanks, I get it now. BTW, I noticed there was an article on Alsóvalkó. If you could translate that one too, I would be very grateful. :-) (this is the last one) Khoikhoi 21:15, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks again! I suppose I actually do have two more:


 * hu:Kraszna (Crasna, Sălaj)
 * hu:Kapnikbánya (Cavnic)

The latter one already has some content, so I suppose we'd have to merge those two. Khoikhoi 22:29, 22 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Hi, I am asking people who have contributed or are interested in Northern Maramureş to talk about the recent change of the article name and some stuff (mainly spelling) inside. You can find some opinions here and here. Please, leave you comments Talk:Northern Marmaroshchyna. We might need the assistance of an admin to redo certain things (changing the name back, for ex.). Of course, let's first see that everyone agrees on a good name. Thank you.:Dc76 20:17, 23 February 2007 (UTC)


 * About Lunca/Lonka, see also Bocicoiu Mare. The Romanian administrative system "peculiarity" is as follows: a comune consists of 1 or several villages (in this case four or five, incl. Bocicoiu Mare and Lunca la Tisa), which have a single common mayor and administration. This is because some small villages (like 100 to 1000 people and only 10 to 30 sq km of land) do not have resourses to keep a school, services, officials, etc, separately. The councilmen would be elected from villages separately, e.g. two per village, so that each one's voice be heard. The villages have the option to organize a local referendum and separate. But usually the opposite happens, they want to join to achieve more together. According to this, there are 4 streets in the comune, called:


 * Necunoscuta (Unknown), with numbers and postal code
 * Sat Craciunesti (Village Craciunesti), idem
 * Sat Lunca la Tisa (Village Lunca la Tisa), idem
 * Sat Tisa (Village Tisa), idem
 * And, also see this, which officially confirms that there are only 4 villages, those above: Bocicoiu Mare, Tisa, Crăciuneşti, Lunca la Tisa. Area: 24,02 sq km, incl. 1,6 in localities (i.e. where there are houses) and 22,42 outside (i.e. forests, agriculture, etc). Population: 4,476. No of households: 1,366. No. of living quoters: 1,374 (apparently some people have two houses built near by). Kindergardens: 4. Schools: 6. No high school. Main economic activities: agriculture, manufacturing of bricks, woodcraft, comercial activities (meaning perhaps shops, etc). Interested to tourists: 1) etnographic museum "Pipas" in Tisa 2) Băile Crăciuneşti, i.e. Craciunesti baths with (apă mineralizată), i.e. mineralized water. 3) Movilă naturală, i.e. natural knoll. (Tax) facilities for investors (who): make bricks, use minaralized water, fitting of the leasure zone Tepliţa. Investement projects (by the state): 1) "rehabilitation" of he system of drinking water; 2) to asphalt and modernize the road Bocicoiu Mare - Lunca la Tisa. :-) :Dc76 21:03, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Kapnikbánya
Thanks again. If you see this map of Szatmár vármegye, you will notice that is on the right-hand side, in Nagybányai járás. As for the Slavic name etymologies, you could ask PANONIAN, Tankred, or Irpen. There are many others that I know. Yeah, I knew Juro too. We got into a conflict on Slovakization. It was bad. Khoikhoi 09:25, 24 February 2007 (UTC)


 * BTW, I just noticed that Szilágysomlyó has some interesting information... ;-) (hint, hint) Khoikhoi 04:53, 27 February 2007 (UTC)