User talk:Alessandro57/Archive 8

DYK nomination of Aulus Vibenna
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Le Corricolo
Hi in the last sentence of this article you mention “jetting” which doesn’t seem to make any sense. If you can tell me what the sentence says in Italian I may be able to figure it out. Thanks Mccapra (talk) 09:22, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks for reviewing it, ! Actually the word in Italian is Jettatura, I translated now with Evil Eye, is it ok? Alex2006 (talk) 09:25, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Ah yes thank you. Mccapra (talk) 09:26, 9 April 2023 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Le Corricolo
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DYK for Pizza dolce di Beridde
Aoidh (talk) 00:02, 12 April 2023 (UTC) GalliumBot (talk • contribs) (he/it) 03:27, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

Thank you! I think saying in the hook that's a Jewish specialty might have been even more attractive, but I clicked anyway ;) - Easter left strong impressions --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:35, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you ! Gee, that's right, I didn't think of that...though, since the Bavarian Pope is already in the hook, maybe it would have turned a little too religious. Alex2006 (talk) 07:47, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
 * ... in a sweet way - you could still propose it on WP:ERRORS - I'm too busy with three Recent death articles. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:57, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Hallo, they accepted, but then nothing happened. How long does it take to change the main page? Bye, Alex2006 (talk) 08:37, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
 * I just asked one of the two admins who agreed... I think that they forgot to do it. Alex2006 (talk) 08:52, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Congratulations! That's one of the highest hourly pageviews I've seen for a food hook. BorgQueen (talk) 04:18, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you for helping me, ! Already two years ago I published another hook on a Milanese dish (never heard so far of a Roman promoting Milan :-) ), which was seen many times. Maybe I should start a food blog... :-) Bye, Alex2006 (talk) 11:32, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

My story today, Messiah (Handel), was my first dip into the FA ocean, thanks to great colleagues. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:40, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

Today is the 80th birthday of John Eliot Gardiner. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:36, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

DYK for Elogium (literary genre)
Aoidh (talk) 00:02, 28 April 2023 (UTC)

DYK for Aulus Vibenna
-- RoySmith (talk) 00:02, 29 April 2023 (UTC)

DYK for Praefectus vigilum
-- RoySmith (talk) 00:03, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

Hi
Hi Alessandro57, there's an RFC over at Armenia that you may be interested in. Just sharing to get more input from active contributors :) Archives908 (talk) 19:33, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

DYK for Tyrrhenika
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 14 May 2023 (UTC)

Aleppo
Hi. I see you edited the article Matrakçı Nasuh a long time ago. Recently I uploaded but I have problems with its description. A lot of websites write that its author is Nasuh Al-Matrakî [sic]. Now Matrakçı Nasuh is listed in Commons as the author. But I have very big doubts: he died long before 1600; or maybe he is the author, so the map is not from 1600. I want to ask for your help in establishing these facts, because I do not find the authoritative sources I need. Sincerely. Smpad (talk) 14:20, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Hallo, it is indeed a map by Matrakçı Nasuh, and it is taken from the Menazilname, which is a book with 107 miniatures painted by him describing the route taken by the Ottoman army during Süleyman's Iraqi campaign in 1534. Alex2006 (talk) 16:04, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
 * I am very grateful to you for your answer. So it's not "ca. 1600"? Do you have a source? Maybe edition of the book with maps? Sincerely. Smpad (talk) 16:14, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Of course not, I think it was between 1535 and 1540. About a source, look here, . Cheers, Alex2006 (talk) 16:24, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
 * You have no idea how happy I am that you helped me with this issue :) Thank you. By the way, do you happen to know if some map/image of Aleppo exists exactly from c. 1600 (I need 1590-1640 period)? I need some kind of image of a city or the Levant to illustrate my article. Sincerely. Smpad (talk) 16:36, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
 * I am happy that I made you happy, . :-) Regarding another map or view, I am not a specialist about Ottoman Syria, but you could look here or here . I am sure you will find something. The article looks very interesting, I hope that it will be translated in English soon! Regarding Aleppo, it is a pity that the city has been destroyed first by the war and now by the quake. :-((( I hope that they will able to restore it.  Cheers, Alex2006 (talk) 17:19, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much! I am very, very grateful to you. Yes, I'm going to translate the article into English and Ukrainian after I get it a "good article" rating. Unfortunately, Wikipedia has very little written about the Julfans in any language, but meanwhile this is a very interesting phenomenon of a small town on the Silk Road, in which a special trading culture developed, and after the Eastern Armenian deportation, the population of this trade town scattered across the continent and acquired prominent positions in new places. Unfortunately, the thing that survived after the sack of the city, its large cemetery, was barbarously destroyed relatively recently. What a horror, a regime that completely hates Armenians, wants to occupy the land (where Armenians lived for centuries before the arrival of the Turkic tribes) in order to destroy our cultural heritage, kill and assimilate Armenians, and all with the connivance of other states... An absolute nightmare. Yes, war is terrible. Previously, I could only watch it in the news, but now I live in this (originally I am from Crimea, but live in western Ukraine). And when the earthquake happened, I was very upset, because my ancestors fled from the Adana vilayet and this land is important to me. Thank you again! Have a nice day! Sincerely. Smpad (talk) 18:15, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Crimea? I know a Tartar from Crimea, who during WWII escaped first to Romania, and now live in Istanbul, where he became rich. In Anatolia there are a lot of cripto-Armenians, who behave as Turks but maintain their traditions. Generally many western Europeans don't really understand how life was bad in the past for people living just a couple of hundred km to the east, . I hope that you don't suffer too much for the war, here in Switzerland most of the people is with Ukraine, there are yellow-blue flags everywhere. Anyway, if you need something else, I am here (more or less :-)). добрий вечір! Alex2006 (talk) 19:20, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Hello colleague! I just uploaded this file, but it did not come out in the quality it is on the site. Can you suggest how to fix this? I also want to upload this map, but I'm very afraid for the quality. I will be glad for your help. With respect. Smpad (talk) 13:37, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Hallo, sorry, but I am at the airport, and I am flying for vacation to a place almost without internet. Why don't you ask to the photographic lab? They are wizard, and could help you. Bye, Alex2006 (talk) 13:27, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your advice, colleague! I wish you have a good time :) Sincerely. Smpad (talk) 23:28, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

Fight for a "European Armenia (TM)"
Hi Alex, hope you're doing well. Long time no speak. I've noticed a few IPs (operated by the same user in all likelihood, given that the IPs edit war and support each other in tandem, and also geolocate to the same country) have been keen on inserting hopelessly WP:UNDUE/WP:POV content into various Armenia-related articles. Goal: push Armenia as a fully or semi-European state in infoboxes and ledes of various Armenia-related articles. Seems they do not care about the fact that while the country, in the modern day, may geo-politically be considered Europe or Eurasian, geographically it is not and has never been (and will never be, unless it somehow conquers a lot of new territories, which is unlikely). A well known recurring mainly WP:FORUM-ish theme on Wikipedia that resurfaces every few months, I was wondering about your thoughts vis-a-vis this new batch? - LouisAragon (talk) 14:10, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Hello, everything is fine, thanks! Yes, i too noticed that this story started again some time ago... a few days ago one of these ip had opened a thread on the talk page of Armenia, I looked at his edits and I noticed that he was edit warring on another article still on the same topic (Armenia = Europe). I pointed this out to him and he deleted the whole thread, which is of course forbidden, a sign that he didn't have a clear conscience. Now if one of these "europeans" arrives on the talk, I immediately send him back to read the archive, but it doesn't work. Either he doesn't read it, or he doesn't understand what it is written, or he understands it but doesn't care (I think the latter explanation is the most likely). Regarding the problem with the articles you showed me you should go to ANI. If one of these articles would have been on my watchlist it would have been different…. As far as the problem in general is concerned, given that it is now a historic problem, I think we should open a thread on AN, talk to the administrators and look for a solution as stable as possible. What do you think? Alex2006 (talk) 17:27, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Sounds like a good idea. Are you willing to create a thread? I feel as if a sustainable solution can be achieved. - LouisAragon (talk) 22:10, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Sorry to interject- but I wanted to mention that I too have been monitoring these articles closely the past few weeks. While the IP's talk page messages are getting somewhat irritating, I have noticed a persistent theme. The IP seems to be inserting text along the lines of [paraphrasing] "Armenia is in the South Caucasus region of the Caucasus spanning Eastern Europe and Western Asia". Technically (and if this was a genuine WP:GF edit), I can understand the IP may have assumed that since the Caucasus region (as a whole) is indeed the transition area between E.Euopre/W.Asia, perhaps they assumed that Armenia was transcontinental by extension? The IP doesn't seem to suggest that "Armenia is Europe", but rather, "Armenia is transcontinental". Which leads me to believe that the IP may not understand where the common definitions of Eastern Europe ends in the Caucasus. It seems all other editors monitoring (especially at Armenia) have been quick to respond to the IP and reassert Armenia's rightful geographical location in Western Asia. There isn't any doubt of Armenia's geography in Western Asia by any long-standing editors involved. Therefore, I wonder if ANI is critically necessary in this case? There doesn't seem to be any popular uprising to switch Armenia's geography to Eastern Europe, I think this is a case of a rouge IP who may not understand the accepted boundaries of the continents. Luckily, there has been no activity on these articles' the past few days and the IP has not engaged in any edit wars or blatant vandalism. Nonetheless, I am keeping a close watch on these articles, and will take action should further disturbances occur. Cheers :) Archives908 (talk) 01:45, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
 * yes, I will open a thread but in June, because in the next few days I am going on holiday to a place where I will have very limited internet access. However I will let you know when I do. My suggestion of ANI came from the fact that I thought there was an edit war, but if not, all the better. In any case, ANI can't be the solution, because it always requires a lot of discussion time. Talking about discussions, in the latest discussion taking place now on the Armenia talk page, the "European" position has been refuted by another Armenian. At the beginning of this story I thought we were facing a cultural problem, i.e. that geography was taught differently in Armenia. I waited to see their sources, but virtually nothing was shown. Then, about ten years ago, I casually met three Armenian astrophysicists who had arrived for a conference in Rome, and I took the opportunity to ask them which continent their country was on. They looked at me as if I were dumb, and replied: Armenia is in Asia, where else? From then on I realised that the Armenians learn the same geography as we do, and that the problem is only 'political', so to speak. Bye, Alex2006 (talk) 08:42, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
 * I agree- I don't think ANI is necessary. There aren't any editors who are opposing Armenia's geographical location in Western Asia and Armenia's geopolitical alignment with Europe is already covered sufficiently. Again, I believe this to be a rogue IP that was potentially confused with where the borders of the continents converged in the South Caucasus. So far, no edit wars, no disruptive behavior or vandalism, and no POV edits on any of the aforementioned articles. Most of them are on my watchlist, so I've been keeping a close on them. Anyways, enjoy your holiday :) Archives908 (talk) 02:23, 18 May 2023 (UTC)


 * @Alex2006 and Talking about "zealous campaigns". God knows how many IPs and meat/socks have been used by now. - LouisAragon (talk) 15:24, 11 June 2023 (UTC)

DYK for Le Corricolo
-- RoySmith (talk) 00:02, 19 June 2023 (UTC)