User talk:Alex 21/Archive 15

change to thew Zoo (TV series) page
My changes to the Zoo (TV series) page have been undone, it says because they did not appear constructive. The reason for the is to fix the feel and over all look of the page. In the "original" and what the page get reset to there is a huge gap in the section that shows the cast. The change is not add or adjust content, just to adjust over all flow and look of the page so you do not have to scroll thru 27 lines of blank page. Enclosed is a screen capture of this page showing the huge gap when viewing the page with firefox 48. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ARBy67 (talk • contribs) 23:00, 3 August 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for your time. Robert Burns ARBy67 (talk) 22:49, 3 August 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by ARBy67 (talk • contribs) 22:56, 3 August 2016 (UTC)

Arrow (season 2)
hi, i wanted to know what's the current problem with moving the draft to the article namespace. --HamedH94 (talk) 03:54, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

12 Monkeys
An episode of 12 Monkeys season 2 aired in Australia ahead of the USA. I linked the official Syfy Australia webpage showing the scheduling but you removed the edit. Not sure why. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.148.99.13 (talk) 13:06, 9 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Come again? The notes are still there. At List of 12 Monkeys episodes, for 2x12, 2x13, and the notes are listed beneath. What are you on about? Alex&#124;The&#124;Whovian ? 13:08, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

Line color script
Your line color script is not working at List of Galis episodes, perhaps because it does not use LineColor, but the episode tables have non-compliant colors that need fixing. nyuszika7h (talk) 13:39, 9 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Which tables aren't compliant? They all seem to be... And when it's just episode tables that need fixing, and not the line colours, you can use this script. A full list of my available scripts are listed here. Alex&#124;The&#124;Whovian ? 13:28, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
 * I already fixed them manually in meantime, check the history. nyuszika7h (talk) 13:42, 10 August 2016 (UTC)

Template help
Hey Alex. Could you help look at and code Film date? Currently, the template will categorize a film article with "Upcoming films" and "YYYY films" if the date input is greater than the current date. Once the date in the template is equal or less than the current date, it will only categorize the article with "YYYY films". What needs to be changed, due to a CfD discussion and some talk page discussion (see the last section of Template talk:Film date), the template should only categorize upcoming films with "YYYY films" if it is in the immediate future and the cat has been created. I did some work in the template sandbox and got some acceptable results in the test cases, but putting the sandbox template on 100 Years (film) (the article that stemmed this issue), I did not get the results I wanted. Let me know if you need more clarification and hopefully you can help out. Thanks. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 16:02, 10 August 2016 (UTC)

the 100
Your recent editing history at The 100 (TV series) shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. Alex|The|Whovian? 02:16, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

why it is the other version that has been saved and not mine (mine with "zach mcgowan")??? the others are always right on wikipedia pffff Judor92 (talk) 17:20, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Do not falsely accuse editors of edit-warring; you may be faced with a report of yourself to the administrators. Please take this topic to the talk page of the article, and not here. Alex&#124;The&#124;Whovian ? 22:15, 10 August 2016 (UTC)

Hi there...
Thought you might like to contribute your two-cents worth to | this talk page disscussion. LLArrow (talk) 22:03, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
 * I would, but Adam's basically said everything that I would have. Alex&#124;The&#124;Whovian ? 01:28, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

LLArrow
The current discussion at Talk:Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (season 4) might interest you. DarkKnight2149 20:32, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Please see the very post directly about this one. Alex&#124;The&#124;Whovian ? 21:38, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Talk:Agents_of_S.H.I.E.L.D._(season_4). DarkKnight2149 00:35, 13 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes. I know where it is. And again: Please see the very post directly about this one. Alex&#124;The&#124;Whovian ? 00:46, 13 August 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure what you mean. Are you talking about the diffs of the edits that caused the discussion? DarkKnight2149 00:48, 13 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Nevermind. I think I know what you're talking about now. I just saw the message above this one. My mistake. DarkKnight2149 00:53, 13 August 2016 (UTC)

Hello! There is a DR/N request you may have interest in.
This message is being sent to let you know of a discussion at the Dispute resolution noticeboard regarding a content dispute discussion you may have participated in. Content disputes can hold up article development and make editing difficult for editors. You are not required to participate, but you are both invited and encouraged to help this dispute come to a resolution. The discussion is about the topic Talk:Quantico. Please join us to help form a consensus. Thank you! --Chriswillclark (talk) 12:23, 14 August 2016 (UTC)
 * The DRN for a discussion that only just started? I don't think you understand the use of the noticeboard. It even states: Editors are expected to have had extensive discussion on a talk page (not just through edit summaries) to work out the issues before coming to DRN. Alex&#124;The&#124;Whovian ? 12:41, 14 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Was there a particular reason for this revert? Do you doubt that Chriswillclark was the IP editor, or do you think there's some advantage to keeping the records separate? I'm not sure I see the point in not allowing someone to claim edits they made before creating their account. Huon (talk) 14:42, 14 August 2016 (UTC)

Input
Hello Alex! If you have a minute, I would really appreciate your input here on a small but unusual issue. Thanks in advance! -- S talk / contribs 19:10, 17 August 2016 (UTC)

Notice of discussions regarding updates to MOS:TV
This is just a notification to a series of discussions that are taking place regarding updates to MOS:TV, given you participated in the discussion and/or expressed interest in the discussion seen here. You can find more information about the initiative and the discussions, here. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 03:36, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

Zoo tv series Summary Changes
Just saying that i didnt knew i could do it and i copy/paste the summary from other site's so you get some info about the serie's and what happens on season 2 of Zoo. Most people want some info about it before seeing the show so i was just trying to help to get some info about a tv show i love to watch. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Talkingaboutshows (talk • contribs) 04:38, 19 August 2016 (UTC)
 * That's nice, but copy-pasting from other sites to Wikipedia is against the policies of this site due to legal reasons. You are more than welcome to add summaries that you have made from scratch. Alex&#124;The&#124;Whovian ? 04:45, 19 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Ok thats good to know . Thank you for your quick reply on that matter . — Preceding unsigned comment added by Talkingaboutshows (talk • contribs) 04:48, 19 August 2016 (UTC)

WP:ANI Post
I keep trying to edit the ip-added post and it keeps getting whacked, so I'll just ask here: who is this and why are we not AGF-ing here? I assume there's a good reason, but since I can't get a word in edge wise I can't tell whose half of the story holds the greater legitimacy here. TomStar81 (Talk) 08:02, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Please read the reports at WP:AN3 - the first and third. The editor is an edit-warring sockpuppet who is currently evading their ban by using different routers to get different IPs (their own claim). Alex&#124;The&#124;Whovian ? 08:05, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Ok, so this is a case where its just the ip editors? No sockpuppet investigation report page and no blocked master account? TomStar81 (Talk) 08:09, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
 * It's just one IP editor, per their claims of their own editors, going over a half-dozen addresses. Alex&#124;The&#124;Whovian ? 08:10, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Well that explains alot! I kept looking for an SPI page to compare to and when I couldn't find one I figured I'd just ask at the ANI post, when that evaporated I assumed there was a good reason for it, and so it does appear there is. I'm glad that little voice in my head told me to wait until I heard from both parties before drawing any conclusions. On that note, if this is going to be a problem, I can semi-protect the relevant pages for a couple of days/weeks so you and yours can get some piece. From the looks of things you do appear to need it... TomStar81 (Talk) 08:13, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Honestly, if you could, that would be a godsend. I've got assignments I should be working on, and I've found myself hitting the revert button over and over again as soon as the IP makes another ban-evading edit. Thank you! Alex&#124;The&#124;Whovian ? 08:15, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
 * I've locked down the ANI page and the Sherlock page (those two were in your immediate history). If any others need a lock-down for the sake of peace lemme know and I'll put semi protection up for the affected articles a few weeks. TomStar81 (Talk) 08:21, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Again, thanks a ton! The only other page is their own talk page, but that doesn't overly matter. It does seem, however, that they've taken it to your talk page and will revert my edits there now. Alex&#124;The&#124;Whovian ? 08:27, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Sorry about that, you keep a dozen open Mozilla windows and sooner or later things get criss-crossed... Anyway, that was m'bad, sorry :) TomStar81 (Talk) 08:38, 20 August 2016 (UTC)

We all make mistakes! And it now seems that they've taken it to Administrators' noticeboard as well, unfortunately. Update: Nevermind, they've been blocked! Now for their next IP... Alex&#124;The&#124;Whovian ? 08:43, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
 * On it. TomStar81 (Talk) 08:43, 20 August 2016 (UTC)

Blanking
Per WP:BLANKING users are generally free to blank their own talk pages, so please don't edit war over it. Widr (talk) 10:47, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Blanking comes under editing, and in this case, editing as a result of evading a block. So, editors are more than allowed to revert when an IP editor changes IPs. Alex&#124;The&#124;Whovian ? 11:05, 20 August 2016 (UTC)

Star in her Eye
How reliable are sources stating the name of episode titles this early (at least 6 months beforehand) before the series is actually broadcast, because Doctor Who has been known to change episode titles before they're broadcast, and since the source cultbox got the episode title from seems to be a photo of a clapboard on an (unverified) twitter account, all "Star in her Eye" could be is a working title. TedEdwards (talk) 11:56, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
 * CultBox has always been a reliable source, and anything that is a definite rumour is marked with an asterisks on the site. 9x02's title was available seven months before its series premiered, so it's not that out of the ordinary. Also with Series 9, Invasion of the Zygons/Inversion of the Zygons were the original titles of The Zygon Invasion/The Zygon Inversion; the former original titles were listed first, and then the page was updated to list latter pair. Alex&#124;The&#124;Whovian ? 12:07, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
 * But then the other thing I'm concerned about is how the Twitter account which CultBox got the title from is, I assume, an unverified source. The Twitter post mentioned can be found by clicking on 'Star in her Eye', where a header states "Episode 1 - Star in her Eye" in the Cultbox source. TedEdwards (talk) 12:28, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
 * If it wasn't reliable, CultBox wouldn't have used it, or at the very least, marked it as a rumour. I guess that means it's reliable then, that they're done their own research. Alex&#124;The&#124;Whovian ? 08:58, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

Date formats
You need to read MOS:DATERANGE more closely. It only allows that for "two consecutive years" (for some, that may be the case, but not all, so it's better to standardize), and in "infoboxes and tables" (neither is the case, the series overview table is only referring to those as links). Your argument is basically WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS because a large number of articles need to be fixed after the RfC in July was closed with consensus to deprecate two-digit endings except for a few special cases. (Though for shows which never go beyond two consecutive years for a single season, two-digit endings are probably still allowed.) Regarding the redirect, the article should be moved – I overlooked that. nyuszika7h (talk) 22:34, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Ah, I wasn't aware that MOS:DATERANGE had changed; I've self-reverted. I can't seem to find the RfC - care to link me? Thanks for letting me know! Alex&#124;The&#124;Whovian ? 22:47, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
 * It's linked at the top of MOS:DATERANGE in a hatnote: Special:Permalink/731874769. – nyuszika7h (talk) 08:50, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

Community (TV series)
What was the thinking behind this edit? You removed the artists from the track listing – perfectly valid and useful information – but didn't delete the column heading. You didn't explain it in your edit summary. I'm reverting your change (but keeping the minor formatting changes you made in the same edit).  McLerristarr &#124;  Mclay1  05:04, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Maybe if you clicked the "AWB" bit in the edit summary, you might just find that it was an automatic edit by a third-party program. Obviously, that particular edit was a mistake, given that the intended usage was to remove any parameters of the form extra* from all usages of Series overview when it was updated. No need to revert, I've restored the content myself. Alex&#124;The&#124;Whovian ? 05:12, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
 * I know what AWB is, having used it myself. It's semi-automated. You're still fully responsible for all your edits. No need to be snarky about it. I pointed out a mistake you made. You've fixed it now. No big deal.  McLerristarr &#124;  Mclay1  05:19, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
 * I could have said the same about your own snarky introduction, but now that the issue is fixed, I guess this conversation is dealt with. Happy editing! Alex&#124;The&#124;Whovian ?
 * Sorry if that came off as snarky. It was a genuine question.  McLerristarr &#124;  Mclay1  07:37, 28 August 2016 (UTC)

MOSTV updates
Hey Alex. I'm sure you're aware of the discussions going on, but I just wanted to let you know now that we are close to a consensus for changes to the first section, Naming conventions. In case you weren't following the happenings, just wanted to make sure you'd have a chance to comment, if you chose, before we implemented the changes. You can find all the info, here. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 18:28, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Brilliant, thanks! I actually wasn't aware of the discussion, so I'll read through it later and voice my opinions. Alex&#124;The&#124;Whovian ? 22:29, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I left a notice about starting the discussions for each section here on your talk and a few other places. But no worries. That's why I made this post because I thought it was a bit strange you had not stated anything yet. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 23:05, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Looks like I completely missed that... And yeah, I'll have a response for it soon now that I actually know of it! Looks like everything I'd have already said has pretty much been covered. Alex&#124;The&#124;Whovian ? 23:08, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
 * No need to add anything if you don't feel the need. Just wanted to make sure you were aware of what was happening, since you are one of the more active TV project members. Be sure to add that discussion and main intro page to your watchlist so you know when we move on and such. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 23:20, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

created page for Season 1 of ABC's Castle
Hey, I was wondering you could take a look at my draft for Castle: Season 1? Please let me know what you think. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.96.166.159 (talk) 22:51, 30 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Good job on getting a start. However, it's going to need a lot more content than that to pass as a valid article; proper lead, premise, production information, casting, reception, accolades, etc. Take a look at Arrow (season 2), which until only the other day was still a draft. (Also, I've moved the draft to Draft:Castle (season 1), per the proper naming procedures). Alex&#124;The&#124;Whovian ? 01:10, 31 August 2016 (UTC)

Hello
Hi, could you ban User:Hesam1323 and also his IP(2.177.72.214). He keeps putting information in the main article for Ramin Djawadi. Even though those informaions are already in List of works by Ramin Djawadi. - AffeL (talk) 14:54, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm not an administrator, I can't block anyone. Report him at the Administrator Noticeboards. Alex&#124;The&#124;Whovian ? 22:19, 1 September 2016 (UTC)

Annedroids season 4
Re this, the article uses the Amazon release dates, and it hasn't been released on Amazon yet, only aired on TVOKids, so your edit is incorrect. Maybe we should change it to use the TVOKids air dates, as usually if not always they seem to air earlier, but need to find those air dates somewhere. Their website has the episodes so that pretty much confirms the fact that they aired, but need to find the actual air dates. nyuszika7h (talk) 22:11, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

Dead of Summer (TV series)
Hey Alex, may I ask why you keep on reverting my edits for Dead of Summer? I am trying to help out this article. My edits are not vandalism at all and they are definitely constructive based on the storyline of the series. I am just trying to make the episode summaries more informative than the one already given. So what gives? — Preceding unsigned comment added by ZeldaLudwig (talk • contribs) 03:37, 4 September 2016 (UTC)
 * You would know if you read the edit summaries of my reverts. Firstly, nothing in the MoS supports adding cast names into the episode table. And you are completely violating WP:TVPLOT. For constantly completely ignoring my reverts, and reverting them with no explanation, you may face being reported to the administrators. Please understand the guidelines in place at WP:TV and MOS:TV before taking it upon yourself to violate these guidelines. Alex&#124;The&#124;Whovian ? 04:10, 4 September 2016 (UTC)
 * AlexTheWhovian: take care, you had 5 reverts on this article yesterday so you have well exceeded 3RR. Regards &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 13:13, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

Doctor Who (series 10)
What the hell have you edited Series 10 for? That was confirmed by a couple of sources. But you went ahead and went bigheaded and removed it!!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by WikiGeek1233 (talk • contribs) 12:45, 4 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Please see WP:SEASON. – nyuszika7h (talk) 12:51, 4 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Exactly what Nyuszika said. Per WP:SEASON, [u]sing seasons to refer to a particular time of year (winter 1995) is ambiguous, and hence, air dates do not get listed as such. Also, links do not get added directly to an article, but as a reference (and the content you were adding is already in the article). Finally, please remain civil when dealing with editors who's edits you disagree with. Thank you. Alex&#124;The&#124;Whovian ? 13:00, 4 September 2016 (UTC)

Prod. code doesn't give details
Do not use the non-linked ep template header on guides with ISAN prod codes as the link gives the reader a idea on the meaning of the field. Also stop enforcing template usage as there is NOTHING stating a user MUST use them in guides. 119.224.39.131 (talk) 00:15, 5 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Please discuss in the link on your talk page. Thank you. Alex&#124;The&#124;Whovian ? 04:46, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

American Horror Story: Murder House
Please help Alex! Someone went and screwed the American Horror Story: Murder House article all up by trying to enforce an anti-consensus move; creating multiple new pages/redirects. I'm totally out of my depth here, and am hoping you might know the requisite steps to take... Please and thank you, LLArrow (talk) 04:17, 6 September 2016 (UTC)
 * I'll see what I can do. Copy-pasting the content between the pages probably wasn't the best move. Already requested deletion of several pages and request for history to be moved from "season 1" page to "Murder House" page. Updated: All done. American Horror Story (season ) and American Horror Story (season one) are deleted, American Horror Story (season 1) redirected to American Horror Story: Murder House, and Murder House has its history back and its original content restored. Alex&#124;The&#124;Whovian ? 05:13, 6 September 2016 (UTC)


 * Your assistance is greatly appreciated. I realize it probably wasn't the most prudent route to take, it just felt like all I was capable of doing at the time. Despite our differences and squabbles I do respect you as an editor. I have quite the flaring temper and can snap like a rabid turtle, usually to my detriment. You can totally remind that I'm being an a$$hole, when I am, and call me on my bull$h!te. I'm the type of editor that needs a little reigning in from time to time. That being said, I've sorta grown fond of our little tiffs ;P. LLArrow (talk) 05:50, 6 September 2016 (UTC)

Regarding
...this, somehow the rollback must have got clicked since using my phone now. Sorry for that I definitely did not mean to revert it. — I B  [ Poke  ] 11:33, 7 September 2016 (UTC)
 * No problems. We all make accidents. Was just making sure you knew that editors are allowed to clear their own talkpages. Alex&#124;The&#124;Whovian ? 11:36, 7 September 2016 (UTC)

data-sort-TBA in series overview
Something broke with Series overview, it's showing "data-sort-TBA" instead of "TBA" (see for example List of Soy Luna episodes). It appears on other pages after an edit/purge. nyuszika7h (talk) 20:17, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
 * N/A was recently edited, so I'll be sure to add support for that into the module ASAP. I'll also get around to fixing manual usages of N/A in the template. I wasn't aware of this; thanks for letting me know! Alex&#124;The&#124;Whovian ? 22:25, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
 * ✅ Alex&#124;The&#124;Whovian ? 08:36, 9 September 2016 (UTC)

Broken instance of template
The template Series overview is not working at List of The Dumping Ground episodes, probably a problem with the data but I had a look and there’s nothing obvious. Can you have a look at it.-- JohnBlackburne wordsdeeds 17:11, 10 September 2016 (UTC)
 * ✅ Alex&#124;The&#124;Whovian ? 23:08, 10 September 2016 (UTC)

Copying within Wikipedia requires proper attribution
Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. It appears that you copied or moved text from Blindspot (TV series) into List of Blindspot episodes. While you are welcome to re-use Wikipedia's content, here or elsewhere, Wikipedia's licensing does require that you provide attribution to the original contributor(s). When copying within Wikipedia, this is supplied at minimum in an edit summary at the page into which you've copied content. It is good practice, especially if copying is extensive, to also place a properly formatted copied template on the talk pages of the source and destination. The attribution has been provided for this situation, but if you have copied material between pages before, even if it was a long time ago, please provide attribution for that duplication. You can read more about the procedure and the reasons at Copying within Wikipedia. Thank you. If you are the sole author of the prose that was moved, attribution is not required. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 22:30, 7 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Pardon me? I gave proper attribution of both talk pages, as is necessary. Perhaps you should do your research before warning editors about something that they have already done. Alex&#124;The&#124;Whovian ? 22:31, 7 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Sorry for posting this before checking the talk page; could you please in the future also make sure you mention in your edit summary at the destination page where you got the content from? The talk page templates are optional, but the edit summary is mandatory. Thanks, — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 22:34, 7 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Copying within Wikipedia states that an edit summary should be used at a minimum and the simplest form, but given that that page is only a guideline, and that I've already attributed fairly enough with copied, it is unnecessary. Alex&#124;The&#124;Whovian ? 22:38, 7 September 2016 (UTC)
 * The page says that you need to at a minimum do the edit summary, and the talk page stuff is optional. They don't use the word "mandatory", but that's what it means. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 22:51, 7 September 2016 (UTC)
 * No where does it imply the edit summary is "mandatory"; that seems to be your opinion on the matter, not what it actually is. Alex fully satisfied WP:PATT with the talk page templates added. The "spirit" of it if you were is to include a hyperlink somewhere for the attribution, and WP:PATT even says the edit summary way is disadvantageous. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 04:53, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Favre. I knew there was a link for proper attribution guidelines, but I couldn't remember what it was. This definitely seems like a personal view; I've never had other editors display any issues when splitting pages before. Alex&#124;The&#124;Whovian ? 05:22, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Favre. It looks like it was me that was misinterpreting. Sorry, AlexTheWhovian — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 13:12, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
 * No problems. I will endeavor to add links into both edit summaries when splitting, though, like I did with the main article. Alex&#124;The&#124;Whovian ? 13:15, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Looks like I goofed again: Taking a closer read of the material at the link, in both scenarios they are talking about what the content of the edit summary should be: hyperlink in the edit summary, or a list of contributor names in the edit summary. In neither instance does it say that the edit summary can be replaced by the {copied} template. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 13:18, 8 September 2016 (UTC)

I have always interpreted that as attribution in the edit summary being required, though the terms of use don't say edit summary is required, just "sufficient". Might be best to ask the WMF about this. nyuszika7h (talk) 14:24, 8 September 2016 (UTC)

Edward Brayshaw needs to be recognized for his contribution to Doctor Who as being The First Master. See War Games episodes.
Edward Brayshaw was known as the first actor to play The Master, in the Science Fiction Series, Doctor Who. Patrick Troughton played the Doctor, and The Master was referred to as the War Chief. Please refer to the show title War Games, staring Patrick Troughton as the Doctor. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.140.162.127 (talk) 23:28, 10 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Source it. Alex&#124;The&#124;Whovian ? 23:29, 10 September 2016 (UTC)


 * I don't know how this works. I don't know how to contact you. Go see the show War Games and see the Master you forgot. Edward Brayshaw needs to have his picture on top. You left him out! Why? Do a youtube search for ''The Master A Life of Evil, I found 3 of them showing Edward Brayshaw as the first Master. Do an AOL Search, under the name Edward Brayshaw, you will see that he listed in a few places as the First Master. Go rent or buy the show. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.140.162.127 (talk) 23:34, 10 September 2016 (UTC)


 * Edward Brayshaw was known as the first actor to play the Master in the Science Fiction Series, Doctor Who. Patrick Troughton played the Doctor, and the Master was referred to as the War Chief. I tried 3 times to add this information, and each time someone had removed it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.140.162.175 (talk) 02:15, 11 September 2016 (UTC)


 * Maybe I will try again tomorrow to fix the missing information about Edward Brayshaw being known as the first actor to play the Master. It is important for historical reference. Someone keeps removing my addendum. I would suggest you get a picture and put it on top, and put back the information that I had supplied. This is history. You can't just leave somebody out because you don't like him as an actor. I am going to be complaining to Wikipedia for leaving him out, and the numerous erasing of the added information provided. I am wasting my time trying to help the wiki community when someone keeps side stepping my efforts every time I try to provide the needed information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.140.162.175 (talk) 02:27, 11 September 2016 (UTC)


 * 1) Stop making a new section on this page every time you leave a comment. Click the edit button at the top of the section to add a new comment to this discussion.
 * 2) Please sign your posts with ~, else your edits here will also be removed.
 * 3) Check the article history by clicking the History tab at the top of the article to see why your edits are being reverted. The reason that your edits are being reverted is because it goes against the history of the show, and your claims are entirely unsourced by any third-party reference. They are entirely your own views, and not based at all on the events of the series.
 * 4) Discuss this on the talk page of The Master's article by clicking the Talk tab in the top left of the article, not here.
 * 5) If you continue to add these edits without discussing on the aforementioned talk page, you will be reported for edit warring, and possibly blocked by the administrators from editing. Alex&#124;The&#124;Whovian ? 02:32, 11 September 2016 (UTC)

Alex,

Will you please check out the show War Games??? Please? Edward Brayshaw is the first actor to play the Master. If you will check it out, you can see it for yourself. If you put the name Edward Brayshaw in Google, you will see a picture of the Master. You will recognize him instantly. It does NOT go against the history of the show. It predates your first entry. 19 April 1969 to 21 June 1969. Will you please check it out, and please update.

Alex,

I am still waiting for you to update this page as requested. Do you agree that Edward Brayshaw needs to be included or are you opposed to my suggestion? If you disagree, I want you to say so, or say that you will update later this week or whenever convenient, something like that would be appreciated. Wikipedia was never intended for one person to hog the way information is to be presented. If something is left out, it needs to at least be considered.

Signed 47.140.162.175 (talk) 03:27, 11 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes. I disagree. Now, discuss at it at Talk:The Master (Doctor Who), and not here. User talk pages are for personal requests/discussions. Alex&#124;The&#124;Whovian ? 22:36, 11 September 2016 (UTC)