User talk:Alex Bakharev/Archive16

User:AlexNewArtBot/Kurdistan
Would you mind explaining me the purpose of these sub pages. I am asking because there is no Kurdistan-stub and it was deleted before. -- Cat chi? 21:30, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Well it is time to create one. --Bohater 21:36, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Plese see User:AlexNewArtBot for the description of the bot's work. Basically it daily looks through the list of the new articles and puts into the lists of new articles according to some rules. The generated new article lists are mostly used for the wiki projects, some are used for the other tasks (e.g. "good articles" recommended for DYK, "autobiographies" for COI, etc.) User:AlexNewArtBot/Kurdistan are the new rules for the Kurdistan related articles. The $$stub$$ rule supposed to be used for the automatic assignment of the stub type. Currently this functionality is turned off by the decision of the Bot Approval Group so the statement has no effect. In future if I would ever get the approval it would be better if Kurdistan-stub was there (maybe as a redirect to another template) or the $$Kurdistan-stub$$ was not in the rules. Otherwise the bot would insert invalid templates to the articles. I have no desire to argue the bot's case in the nearest future, though, so you have plenty of time Alex Bakharev 22:11, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Kurdistan-stub and similar such templates were deleted as per multiple WP:SFDs. It wont be recreated as per consensus. While I understand the feature is off, should it be turned on that setting will cause the types of problems you mentioned. -- Cat chi? 22:22, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
 * That is not true. these stubs were deleted before WikiProject Kurdistan have created. There were hardly users, who support for keep. The stubs are a very important part of a Wiki Project. For further dicussion, please continue here. --Bohater 01:05, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Denied. Only sovereign and officially recognized countries get to have stubs at which Kurdistan miserably fails to even identify as a defacto country. Furthermore some countries are merged with others for the sake of stub sorting. There is nothing further to discuss. You are welcome to as at the WikiProject Stub sorting. -- Cat chi? 01:14, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Again!, The Alex Bakharev' s dicussion site is not a place, where you should discuss about using of stubs. Please discuss here. It think Alex Bakharev needs a bit of peace. --Bohater 01:24, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Alex Bakharev, please see and . -- Cat chi? 01:33, 8 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Exactly!, that is what i mean. I see only the well known users, who are decided for deletion of all kurdish related thinks here in Wikipedia. Alex Bakharev see here.  That's beside the point . --Bohater 01:42, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Guys! My decision means nothing for the plight of the template. Currently the stub line in the rules have no effect whatever. In future we could just redirect the Kurdistan-stub to MEast-stub or whatever or I can remove the line. I do not intend to enable the stub sorting feature in the foreseeable future so your argument here is just waste of your time. The stub templates are a maintenance thing, they are suppose to make life easier not the other way around. One of the main requirements for a stub type is more than a hundred articles (60 to make the thing started). Do you really have so many Kurdistan-related stubs. The other thing is that it is a controversial issue that might spark edit wars instead of encouraging expanding the articles. I understand all the difficulties and have no intention to intervene with the issue, honestly Alex Bakharev 02:12, 8 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Well we have for stub type more than a hundred articles. See here. --Bohater 11:25, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Melbourne meetup 6
Hi. This is a reminder to people on the Melbourne meetup participation list that the next meetup has been arranged for 19 June. Could you indicate on the meetup page your likely attendence, or otherwise. Regards. - Cuddy Wifter 23:09, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

User:M.V.E.i.
Alex, I noticed you amended this user's block from indefinite to one month. I have restored this to indefinite. Please discuss blocks with the blocking administrator before amending them.

M.V.E.i. was not blocked for mere 'incivility'. He was blocked indefinitely for racist comments, soapboxing, trolling and hate speech. A selection of his comments include:


 * "Half French, which explains his sexual orientation"
 * "No such nationality as Israeli"
 * "Thats the baltic way, cheat, lie, and when they loose they run to Europe and NATO to complain they are being smashed. Those Balts here are nothing but trolls"
 * "Germans are your Enemies yet you were their uniforms and also "worked hard" for the SS in their name".
 * "You Balts try to represent lies as truth so you could lower your national shame, it will never happen, the history is against you".
 * "Estonian "democracy""
 * "Those Estonians who we argue with are eated with self-hate. They know that their grandfathers from the forest brothers and the ss were creeps"
 * "He's a German, so I expected it"
 * "the Estonians started the Holocaust in Estonia even before the Germans arrived their"
 * "you have baltic blood offcourse you will try to denie the crimes of those to who some of your blood belonges to".
 * Entire post, personal and racist attack
 * "Say thankyou that we, as winners didn't delete you, allies of the Nazis, from this planet"
 * "Besides, USSR never killed Baltic people (Except at World War 2, but that were Baltic Nazis killed, there not considered people"
 * "Stop this bullshit. The only reason that the baltics hate USSR, is because they are self-eated with hate. They baltic people feel little, useless".

Did you even review the diffs provided in the initial post to WP:AN/I? Please do not reduce the user's block length again. Neil  ╦  09:47, 8 June 2007 (UTC)


 * I have responded on my talk page, but I thought I should let you know I've asked for some other admin input in a new post on WP:AN/I. Neil   ╦  14:17, 8 June 2007 (UTC)


 * The central argument here seems to be, that M.V.E.i. is accusing Estonians for involvement in the Holocaust (while the other side is doing everything to deny this). Estonian involvements is a fact; up to 20,000 thousand Jews were murdered in Estonia after Estonia was first declared Judenfrei. In most cases (i.e. excluding Klooga) the executions were carried out by Estonians. I can see no hate speech in pointing out that many Estonians were Nazi collaborators, certainly no more than what we hear from the other side. -- Petri Krohn 15:13, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
 * This accounts only for a small part of the comments. Besides, pointing this out could certainly be either civil or not. And here it wasn't civil. E.g. Those Balts here are nothing but trolls, you have baltic blood offcourse you will try to denie the crimes of those to who some of your blood belonges to, not considered people, Say thankyou that we, as winners didn't delete you, allies of the Nazis, from this planet. Very very civil indeed. all you did in your intire history is killing Jews in your country, those are facts -- it doesn't really look like a fact, and M.V.E.i doesn't look really competent here. Colchicum 15:47, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
 * P.S. Some comments by User:DLX are clear examples of Holocaust denial and by definition hate speech. Shouldn't this earn an indef block to DLX and some of his supporters? -- Petri Krohn 15:17, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I am sorry i cannot locate this comment now. What I am refering to, is an edit summary that states someting like: "(20,000) Jews could not have been exterminated in Estonia in 1943 - 1944, because Estonia was declared Judenfrei already in 1941." -- Petri Krohn 16:27, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
 * At worst it was an honest mistake Alex Bakharev 16:40, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, I fail to see any Nazi POV in something like this. Just a challenging question. One might wonder where those 20,000 had come from. It doesn't deny that Estonia was declared Judenfrei. Colchicum 16:36, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
 * To correctly understand value of Petri's comment its definitely useful to read his own ideas. I guess that edit summary from Petri helps to explain why he supports MVEi.--Staberinde 15:29, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
 * If M.V.E.i would state these facts civilly and in the appropriate places then we all would do this evening something useful than discussing if his edits are worth one month or rather indefinite block. Still I believe indefinite block is an overkill. DLX was not perfect but much more polite than M.V.E.i Alex Bakharev 15:31, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
 * No refs have been provided, by the way, and a hardly appropriate place has been chosen for this. But anyway, there is no rule in Wikipedia concerning Holocaust denial. Though I think Holocaust was real and terrible, I also think that Holocaust denial per se is not hate speech. No more than earth's sphericity denial. It is Holocaust approval that would be hate speach. BTW, then isn't USSR never killed Baltic people sort of denial? The problem is not Holocaust but rather that M.V.E.i assumes collective responsibility and is overly uncivil. Colchicum 15:47, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Correct, that is why I am not arguing for unblocking of M.V.E.i. but just against the indefinite block. One month is a very serious punishment on Wiki Alex Bakharev 16:00, 8 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Sorry to "troll" your page like this, but could you please point out where I have denied the Holocaust? My claim were that Estonians did not start killing Jews before Germans arrived - and that Estonian SS-Legion did not participate in killing of Estonian Jews. Considering that SS-Legion was created after Estonia was declared Judenfrei by Germans... well, it is kinda hard to claim they killed Jews while Legion didn't exist. As for the first claim, I believe it to be true, although I have no rock solid sources either way. Estonia only had approx. 4500 Jews before WWII, about 500 - wealthiest - were deported/killed by Soviets before Germans arrived, further ~3000 fled the only way they could - East (some to Sweden as well). So, I see no reason why Estonians would have killed Jews before Germans arrived - wealthy ones were gone (reason for pogroms in some other countries) and Estonians had always had excellent relations with Jews and Jewish community - which continued after Soviet's re-occupied Estonia (see Yuri Lotman and Zara Mints, for example) - and still is present today. DLX 16:33, 8 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Yes, this is the comment I am refering to. I remememr you saying, that the Estonian SS-Legion could not have contributed to the Holocaust in Estonia, as it was only formed after Estonia was declared Judenfrei. The 20,000 Jews were imported to Estonia for slave labor and extermination. According to Eugenia Gurin-Loov most of them were exterminated by Estonian guards days before Estonia was liberated the democratically elected Estonian government was overthrown and Estonia re-occupied by the Red Army. I do not know if members of the Estonian SS-Legion took part in these executions, but the dates certainly do not rule it out. -- Petri Krohn 20:44, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Though I strongly believe that M.V.E.i is not a racist, absolutely agree with Alex, can provide more arguments, etc., it is clear that discussion became pointless. All I want to add now is that M.V.E.i is a young man, who should be given a chance. Indefinite block is not a good lesson and could only anger him. Beatle Fab Four 16:06, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Alex, I would like you to check as I have some problems with your latest comment there.--Staberinde 16:15, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Blocking review box
You have reremoved a blocking review box on User talk:M.V.E.i. that I readded after he removed it. Blocking review boxes should not be removed before the block is over, and in long blocks, a few days after that. Please rereadd. Digwuren 11:22, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Anna Politkovskaya
Hi! Something is going on with Anna Politkovskaya. I know, Ghirlandajo is considered respected editor here, but he repeatedly tries to insert baseless and, I believe, misleading claims about Politkovskaya's ethnicity. He seems to equate ethnicity and race, which is far from current understanding of this term. Colchicum 15:57, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

BadSearchResult
What exactly is meant by this set of pages? I noticed that an article I recently worked on is listed, along with my username, in "Archive 9" of that category, thus I'm curious what the problem is and how to fix it, if it's serious. — freak([ talk]) 10:04, Jun. 10, 2007 (UTC)
 * Freak, User:AlexNewArtBot/BadSearchResult is suppose to be a list of new articles that the bot thinks may be vanity or bad faith. The bot has no intelligence it just record occurrence in the article of informal or swear words, creator's nickname, a few memes like tripling elephants and also very short or very long articles. There are a lot of false positives and you articles is one of those. If you do not like it be referred from such a page then just remove it. Alex Bakharev 11:36, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

M.V.E.i. (again)
As the discussion on WP:AN/I has once again ground to a halt with the same people preferring to bitch the same things about the same old nationality rubbish rather than address the original question, I have suggested to M.V.E.i. that if he is willing to pledge to behave from now on, and to stop any kind of nationalistic bigotry, hate speech or racism, I will reduce his block length to 2 months. Seems like a reasonable compromise between the month half called for and the indefinite block the other half wanted. How does that sound? Neil  ╦  21:33, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Unfair. He is young, interested in music, not politics. Think about it, please. Beatle Fab Four 22:38, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Petri asked for some diffs
Holocaust

Q:How many Jews were killed by Estonian SS legioners? (Sic. Not a word about Estonian Jews only)

Quote from DLX: “As for your second question, that is easy: 0. They [Estonian legion] did not participate in Holocaust”. No comments.

Quotes from DLX: 1) “You asked how many were killed by Estonian SS (that is Waffen-SS legion, as there were no Estonians in SS-proper). And the answer is still the same – none”. 2) “And prime minister [Ansip] apologized for actions of a few collaborators - to be honest, I don't know if any other country has done that.” No comments.

 Quote from DLX: “Actually, what I said was that Estonian SS-Legion didn't participate in Holocaust in Estonia (they weren't formed before 1942, Holocaust in Estonia was done by the end of 1941) - or abroad. This still stands”. No comments.

 Quote from someone Martintg: “How can the Estonian Legion be involved in killing Jews, the Legion wasn't formed until 1942, after Estonia's Jews were killed in 1941”. No comments.

Some other references:

Quote from DLX: “Nazi capitulation? There was no such thing”. No comments.

Quote from DLX: “fifty years of Russian occupation was definitely worse then three years of German rule” No comments.

Quote from DLX: “I am an established (1000+ edits) user, who hasn't broken any wikipedia rules, ever” Comment: He was lying, was blocked before. See his block log:

Quote from DLX: “looters and thieves are heroes in Russia” Comment: Racist slur?

Beatle Fab Four 23:33, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Beatle Fab Four, I don't think anybody here is interested in your feud with each other. If you have no comments, don't comment. When Martintg asked: "How can the Estonian Legion be involved in killing Jews, the Legion wasn't formed until 1942, after Estonia's Jews were killed in 1941", you would better look for an answer rather than assume bad faith. fifty years of Russian occupation was definitely worse then three years of German rule -- as to Estonia, I agree. Well, thechically it is wrong to call this occupation, but the period was overall worse. “looters and thieves are heroes in Russia” Comment: Racist slur? -- just ridiculous. Neither Russia nor looters and thieves are races. Wikipedia is not a battlefield, and one can hardly be useful here and will certainly never win assuming otherwise. Colchicum 10:38, 11 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Excuse me, guys, I'll switch to Russian, since my source is in Russian. Ты бы, кольчикум, почитал вот это ( Yevgeniya Albats, New Times) Beatle Fab Four 21:34, 11 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Beatle, please avoid personal attacks at least on my talk page. I am not sure that this discussion is useful. The good thing about wikipedia that it joins people with very different backgrounds and point of views to present truly comprehensive description of various controversies (rather than have some strawmen). If we would manage to persuade DXL and his Estonian friends to abandon their point of views we would have to find fresh supporters to illustrate their views. Why should we do it in the first place? This does not remove the need to have some civility in arguments, the thickness of people's skin is different and some feel very uncomfortable then personal attacks unchecked. Alex Bakharev 03:38, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
 * So what? Messy emotions I don't understand, excuse me. That I don't like Albats-bashing doesn't mean that I always agree with her. Personally nobody of the contributors is responsible for the Holocaust, and it is certainly not a good idea to blame them. And nobody shall hold responsibility for what he believes. As contributors they are only responsible for what they contribute. And yes, Colchicum rather than kol'chikum. Colchicum 10:01, 12 June 2007 (UTC)


 * (laughs quietly) After Petri had to ask for help - and searching through I-don't-know-how-many edits, this is the "worst" you can find? Ripping pieces out of context, such as - that was German capitulation, not "Nazi capitulation". As for my block log, you conveniently forgot to mention that the previous block was overturned, as it was used by admin in questionable circumstances (namely, content dispute). Your holocaust denial accusations show clearly just one thing - that you, BFF, believe that Estonian SS Legion must have been killing Jews, because, well, they are Estonian SS Legion. I have no knowledge what they did afterwards - but they did not participate in murder of those 1000..1500 Estonian Jews in 1941. And why do you even try to show “fifty years of Russian occupation was definitely worse then three years of German rule” as something bad or untrue - once again, failing to mention, that in another case I said that fifty years of German rule would have probably been worse then 50 years of Soviet rule.
 * Oh, and user:Martintg is an Australian.

DLX 03:36, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Please join
Mediation Cabal/Cases/2007-06-10 Podilsko-Voskresenska Line. --Kuban Cossack 17:24, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Also what do you think I should do about this (read the whole discussion). --Kuban Cossack 22:49, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Please try not to get too many people involved that didn't come across the issue accidentally. I want the issue to be resolved by people who are interested in it, and not by people who were invited. Nothing personal against Alex Bakharev, of course. — Alex(U 00:01, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Re protection of the Başkale article
Alex, can you please let me know when you unprotect the Başkale article. I only wish to do a cleanup on it -- am not involved on either side of any of the debates surrouding it. Thanks! Donama 03:56, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the image on Estonian national awakening
It complements the article so nicely :) --Alexia Death 08:10, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

User talk
Alex, could I do anything to persuade Ghirlandajo not to come to my User talk anymore politely? Colchicum 11:46, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Hello
Could you help come up with an NPOV title for this article: [].

What about something like "Iran (newspaper) cartoon controversy" (This will match the title of a similar article: Jyllands-Posten Muhammad cartoons controversy Which also has the name of the paper). The current title is highly POV. A) It was one cartoon, not multiple cartoons, B) It was percieved as being Anti-Azerbaijani, not that it was necessarily meant to be anti-Azerbaijani, these are the two major problems with the current title.Hajji Piruz 17:36, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

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Request
We have a revert war going on at Aleksander Brückner. One party is an anonymous IP who despite repeated requests refuses to get a login, making constructive discussion very difficult as the IP fluctuates from time to time. Could you please take a look? I think the best way to stop this mess would be to semi-protect the article, but as one of the parties to the revert war I could of course be wrong. Please make your own decision here. Balcer 17:51, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
 * The guy seems to be quite literate in the subject. After learning about wikipolicies he may be a useful contributor. I have suggested to him to seek a compromise on the talk pages rather than edit war Alex Bakharev 02:14, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for encouraging him to get an account. If he does, that should make interactions with him easier. Still, I have asked him to do this many times before, with no effect.  If there is no response this time either, and his revert warring continues, I hope you will be willing to consider appropriate action. Balcer 14:01, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

WP:POINT
Sorry to bother you, but since you edited the article Russians in Ukraine, I was wondering if you have an opinion on the serious violation of the WP:POINT there. I'd like to hear your opinion about it before I file it on the ANB. Thanks in advance. --Hillock65 17:57, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

User:AlexNewArtBot/OregonList
The members of WikiProject Oregon have finished using the current list based on Category:Oregon created by your bot. We think it would be good to ask you to run the bot occasionally by request hereafter--let us know if that works for you. If you'd like to not have it on one of your subpages we could make it a subpage of WPOR. Thanks to your bot, WPOR has added approximately 1000 articles to our lists and this has helped us implement our assessment program as well. Right now we would like you to run your bot run again in the same way (find anything in the Category:Oregon category tree that has not already been tagged with WikiProject Oregon), so we can have the list for reference, then we will ask you to run the bot again once in a while. If possible, we would like the bot to ignore these categories, which generate a bunch of false positives: Category:Amtrak, Category:Hudson's Bay Company, Category:Intel, Category:Nike, Inc., Category:Cascade Range, Category:Oregon Trail, Category:Modoc War, Category:Religious culture of the Pacific Northwest, Category:Columbia River, Category:Snake River, Category:BNSF Railway, Category:Burlington Northern Railroad, Category:Northern Pacific Railway, Category:Southern Pacific Railroad, and Category:Union Pacific Railroad. No hurry, as it appears you are on Wikibreak, but if you get a chance to do this, please leave a note at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Oregon. Thanks again for your great bot! Your other Oregon list has been a great help! Katr67 18:45, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Iranian Azerbaijan
pls. look []. this is what I wrote you - again reverts by Hajji Piruz meatpuppets. Pls. also comment on RfC further. It seems we have reached something but Hajji Piruz and his Co. try to destroy it.--Dacy69 19:00, 13 June 2007 (UTC) also please look at this picture which Hajji Piruz is trying to insert in the page with his comments. then I believe pictures of demonstration should be also inserted in the page. I would appreciate of you could comment on that as well.--Dacy69 19:41, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Could you summuraize your proposal at Iranian Azerbaijan. My quote of your proposal was not accepted. Editors will only accept one made by yourslef.Thanks.--Dacy69 16:34, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Vandalizing User Talk Pages
Regarding this message I respectively disagree with your judgment. You are making a decision on behalf of Irpen on which images he likes, and which he does not. There are similar (while politically opposite) images on his talk page, and my point was to present to him the wider spectr of opinions. I don't mind if he removes the image and ask not to put such images any more, it's his choice after all, not yours. You fail to explain why in your judgment the image I inserted is vandalism, but the image right above the one I inserted is not (especially given the recent religious-like craziness that has been observed here on May 9).--Novelbank 22:16, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Please re-read WP:TROLL Alex Bakharev 00:32, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Why did you express your personal opinion on my talk page about the event covered by the poster I uploaded? --Novelbank 01:02, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I did presented my personal opinion regarding your vandalizing user pages with xenophobic images. No reread WP:TROLL and stop pestering Alex Bakharev 01:12, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Hello
Hello. Wouldnt you say that this title "Iran (newspaper) cockroach cartoon controversy" is more accurate than the current title "Azeri Cartoon Controversy in "Iran" Newspaper".

"Iran (newspaper) cockroach cartoon controversy" would also match the title of a similar article Jyllands-Posten Muhammad cartoons controversy, wouldnt you agree?Hajji Piruz 03:31, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Your MfD
You have nominated for deletion my compendium of Petri Krohn's weird ideas. Your nomination is clearly baseless. Please withdraw. Digwuren 06:58, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Attack pages are not allowed Alex Bakharev 07:50, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
 * There's nothing attacky about this page. Digwuren 08:32, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

New chemistry articles
I just wanted to say thanks to you for this page. I recently stumbled across it and have been using it to find/categorize/expand new chemistry articles. --Ed (Edgar181) 18:38, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Thank You
Hey, thanks for putting some protection up on the Rose Bowl Game page, I've been reverting vanaslism on that page for far too long, now it hopefully won't need it anyomre. Thanks again!

Alexdragon 05:02, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

offended
I really got offended by this edit, what I have done that resulted in this ad-herring and his attempts to brought the dangerous political war in WP and mentioning it again and again and again in any comments he make; and trying to make the other users to "react".--Pejman47 12:36, 15 June 2007 (UTC)


 * I realize your sensitivity about the issue, and although I technically haven't violated any rule in either posting on talk page, I still adjusted one of my comments . I understand this is more of a moral issue, and I don't have any political agenda, regardless of stereotyping reverts of my edits on that page. But removing AI report which just documents the police attacks against protestors (regardless of ethnicity) is more of an open human rights problem in Iran more than anything political. Atabek 13:18, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Pejman, I am really sorry you are offended but in my opinion Atabek's contributions to discussions were not of the sort that warrants administrative actions. Atabek, thanks for removing the most controversial part of your edit. Please in future keep cool then the editing gets hot. People has different thickness of skin and we do not want to offend anybody.

Regarding AI, I agree that sometimes it is biased. Still it is very influential organization and their opinions are much more often correct than incorrect. I think we could not blankly ignore their statements. We could say According to Amnesty International... Regarding the Grey Wolves picture, we cannot use a pictorial evidence by itself. We live in the age of photoshop and manipulative photography. Thus the photograph is only acceptable if the connection to GW is made by a reliable or notable source (in the second case it should be an attributed opinion) Alex Bakharev 01:15, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Article title
Regarding your comment, I believe the article should reflect the name Azeri or Azerbaijani, not just due to the nature of cartoon, but due to the content of response reaction to it, which was offense taken by Azerbaijanis in particular. It applies directly to the word controversy rather than just cartoon. Thanks. Atabek 23:00, 15 June 2007 (UTC)


 * We have to have a neutral title. There is absolutely no evidence to suggest that the cartoon was aimed at Azeri's, or even meant to be offensive in the slightest bit. My proposal, and Alex's proposal, is the most neutral and accurate title. Atabek, before you were saying how we should listen to Alex, now your the one not listening to what he said?Hajji Piruz 23:57, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Guys, I am not an expert in the cartoon story. In fact I have learnt it from you about it a few days ago. Maybe you can formally file a WP:RM and see the result? Alex Bakharev 01:00, 16 June 2007 (UTC)


 * I object to suppression of info about anti-Azerbajani nature of the cartoon. People who moved the article without consensus claim that you proposed it, however I do not think that the removal of the reference to anti-Azerbaijani nature of the cartoon is justified. The claims that it was not meant to be offensive do not warrant removal of this info, because no matter what intentions were the result was that it was perceived as highly offensive by Azerbaijanis in Iran and hunreds of thousands took the streets. Can I ask you to have another look at the facts? Also, I'm not happy with the way some people try to suppress the info from Amnesty International, despite being explained that it is a reliable source: Grandmaster 06:55, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I checked a minute ago and the Amnesty International info was there. As I said I am not an expert but the info seems to be presented fairly. Maybe it is the to dig for a new info on the subject? Alex Bakharev 07:12, 17 June 2007 (UTC)


 * I think it should not be in the form "AI claims", etc. As you suggested above, it should be "according to AI", etc, while "according to Iranian government", etc. Both sides should be presented equally. Also, AlexanderPar removed the quotes from Human Rights Watch, claiming that HRW is not a reliable source: If anything, HRW is a lot more reliable than Iranian government, which has one of the worst human rights records in the world. Also, do you think the title should mention the offensive nature of the cartoon towards Azerbaijani people? Grandmaster 12:17, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I have made the changes you suggested regarding the AI quote. Regarding the title I really do not know how to put in the same title that the cartoons might be intended to offend Azeri's people but might be not intended. The roach title seems to be NPOV: nobody argue the roach is in the picture Alex Bakharev 12:29, 17 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Looks like you edited simultaneously with another user, so you changes got lost. As for the title, thanks for your opinion, I will note it. Grandmaster 12:40, 17 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Hi Alex. Sorry to bother you with this issue again, but some people keep on deleting HRW info from the article. I don't think that Wikipedia is a place where info can be suppressed. Btw, they reverted your edit as well. Grandmaster 06:02, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Block log
You must also log blocks here by listing the persons name so the arbcom admins can keep track of how many times a certain user has been blocked since the arbcom: Thanks.Hajji Piruz 17:15, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Attack pages?
As you proposed Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Digwuren/Petri Krohn's Story of Estonians as attack page then I thought to ask what is your opinion of Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Petri Krohn/Evidence as that article accuses other users in wide variety of things, from bad faith to holocaust denial. Is such thing allowed?--Staberinde 15:56, 17 June 2007 (UTC)


 * If it suppose to be a draft of an Arbcom case or RfC it has a valid usage to be temporarily on Wiki. On the other hand it cannot sit there indefinitely or it would become an attack page Alex Bakharev 21:36, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Petri Krohn's behaviour
Thank you for your interest in topics regarding the Baltic republics and the Soviet occupation. This interests has undoubtedly familiarised you with tactics and behaviour of Petri Krohn.

I have prepared a thorough overview of these tactics, along with references to related Wikipedia policy, and posted it to his userpage, requesting that he stop such activities, especially representing private alternative histories on Wikipedia as thought they were fact.

Unfortunately, he proceeded to delete the request mere seven minutes later, along with an inflammatory edit summary. I do not believe this to have been a proper reaction.

Please, if that will not be too inconvenient, take a look at the situation, evaluate it, and consider expressing your evaluation in the appropriate manner.

Many thanks, Digwuren 16:36, 17 June 2007 (UTC)


 * The proper way for the conflict resolution is outlined in WP:DR. The talk page is for the communication between users, after the user read a message on his or her talk he is entitled to remove it. There was a large discussion about the official admin message on the user talk pages that was concluded that a user has the rights to remove them either Alex Bakharev 21:33, 17 June 2007 (UTC)


 * My concern was about deleting the complaints without commentary. This is counterproductive and, indeed, the first 'official' step of WP:DR, the WP:RFC/U seems to be in order.  As above, you're welcome to comment, both before and after I'll file it. Digwuren 22:22, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

arbcom
I opened Arbcom page. please make your comments. --Dacy69 15:24, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

I droped your name from the list. Formally there is nothing wrong from your side though you could check also AlexanderPar edit war on the same page.--Dacy69 20:08, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Wow, I read your arbcom statement, and that is a sorry state of affairs, how fixing one problem only moves the crisis to another area. --MichaelLinnear 06:55, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

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A question
I am here on User:Anonimu's behalf. He decide not to approach you directly because he fears further harassment from some users. The question: Is User:Biruitorul's description of him killing User:Anonimu an accepted thing on Wikipedia? User:Anonimu thinks this is equivalent to a death threat, but he would like to know the opinion of an Administrator before appealing to an Wikipedia procedure. Please reply on my Talk page or directly to User:Anonimu, using Wikipedia's e-mailing system. Baltaci 10:09, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
 * It is suppose to be a joke. I think I am not the best person to ask as I am deeply involved into the Eastern European issues, admiring some of depicted users, getting tired of some others. better ask an opinion of an admin who is not involved into the eastern Europe Alex Bakharev 12:40, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

dacy69
Not, it is not revert. We don't count any previous piece of wording as a revert. Moreover, this reference is already present in the text. Plus - this text was removed because some objected to one word in this text - I rephrased it. Generally, if you are watching so closely the page you shoud have noticed that other editors reintroduced the text several times. Have you counted how much Hajji Piruz who is also on revert parole re-deleted and re-introduced text in this article. Besides, as you can see there is obvious edit warring on the part of editors like Houshyar, Alborz. And for that Wikipedia do not require to wait for 3rr rule. people can be blocked for that as well without even making 3 reverts per day. The treatment shoud be fair and balanced.--Dacy69 13:36, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

BTW, my edit was deleted anyway by Houshyar. he is deleting everything which I insert. So, therefore I filed Arbcom case. The situation is like I am banned, because whatever edit I made they delete it and had no punishment for that. I hope Arbcom will sort out everything.--Dacy69 14:03, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

how much reverts and partial deletion should be made on this page by user:AlexanderPar to get admin attention --Dacy69 16:38, 19 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Dacy, I am sorry but do not expect administrators to monitor all the articles. If somebody violates 3RR or their ArbCom parole please spend some time and formally report them to WP:AN/3RR or to an admin. User:AlexanderPar does not seem to be on revert parole (am I right here?) I have counted three of his edits to Ethnic_minorities_in_Iran and only one seem to be revert. Alex Bakharev 00:04, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

WP:RFC/U on Petri Krohn filed
You might be interested to know that Requests for comment/Petri Krohn has been filed. Digwuren 20:09, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Request for Mediation
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Diffs requested
Alex Bakharev, can you please, provide diffs for your claim about "Some of the articles' histories shows similar sock blocked "as sockpuppets ot User:Atabek" here . Also, I would like to draw attentions to this diff as well as accusation made earlier, with an apology provided afterwards . Thanks. Atabek 07:28, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Another mediation
Sorry to bother you, but you are the only admin I know more or less. I am having trouble with the Battle of Konotop article. User: Russianname keeps spamming it with NPOV tags, new reasons come up as soon as the old ones are cleared away. Right now he doesn't like Russian historian Sergey Solovyov and insists I exclude him. That is unacceptable, I included evidence from multiple sources and believe excluding some, is unjustified. I filed another MedCab case but was hoping you could clear this situation before it evolves into weeks of mediation. Thanks in advance. --Hillock65 18:42, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Need help
Can you please, look into this diff. It took me some time to work on this article, and find all references, and then User:Houshyar appears and reverts me without any explanation or comment, removing references to articles, books, etc. Can you please, help to mediate on this page or somehow explain the user that he needs to discuss. He is making use of the fact that I am limited by 1RR and he is not. And this kind of behavior is really disruptive and makes it pretty much impossible to make any valuable contribution to Wikipedia. Atabek 23:27, 20 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your attention to the matter. The topic might be of interest to you, as some of the members of Qajar ruling family were awarded aristocratic titles in imperial Russia, and recently there was even a Russian society for revival of Qajar nobility. I am currently doing some research on this. Atabek 00:43, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Need help on article Destructive creativity
Dear Alex Bakharev,

Would you be so kind as to have a look at my article titled "Destructive creativity"? It was placed on DYK, then nominated to AfD. I don't know people, albeit I am attuned to comments, made some updates, and still need help. Your attention is highly appreciated.

Sincerely,Steveshelokhonov 01:11, 21 June 2007 (UTC)


 * I have voted keep since it appears the term is notable but I would rather see some unorthodox hypothesises (like explanation of Fire of Moscow to a psychological problem of Napoleon) to be stated as attributed opinions (according to ...) rather than undisputed facts Alex Bakharev 01:33, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Appreciate. I tried a deeper, more medical and unorthodox approach in the first (bigger) take, which Smee and Anynobody touched up and placed on DYK, albeit it ignited funny disputes and current AfD process. Eventually, I made many cuts and revisions, to shrink and degrade the inferno of destructive creativity.Steveshelokhonov 19:59, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Need help
I am not sure how to report this formally: The same user who attacked Rose Bowl Game under multiple IPs and prompted you to semiprotect the page is now editing under a registered account as Beardownaz9. Can you advise me as to the best way of dealing with a user bent on persistent vandalism? Thanks. ~ João Do Rio 05:18, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Image:195307 orig.jpg
Hi ! I do need your help to keep that image! I'm not familiar with Wiki's roles, but that image is really important. Here goes a discussion for deleting it. Can you help? Thankyou so much ! --Alborz Fallah 08:14, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I think the image is fair use (in fact I have written Fair use rationale myself). You can contribute to the discussions on Images_and_media_for_deletion/2007_June_20 Alex Bakharev 08:27, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Request for Mediation
This message delivered: 08:19, 21 June 2007 (UTC).

Ethinicity, major deletions etc.
Dear Alex, I am sorry to bother you, but the ethnicity/nationality/race problem continues and seems to be an old one (see e.g. ), while the category description clearly states "by nationality", by ethnicity at best, but certainly not by race. Are such edits ok? If no, is there anything to prevent this? I don't know how many articles have been affected.

There are also some problems with Estonian SSR. Is it ok for some users to revert 12 kb+ of sourced information? I have always thought that burden of representing a point of view in Wikipedia should be on its holder, but now I see that some contributors prefer to delete other sourced POVs rather than to add something else. Colchicum 11:30, 21 June 2007 (UTC)


 * I have made changes to the Surkov article and wrote some explanation on the talk page. Regarding Samoylova article I am afraid I am of no help. I do not know what is the purpose of all these numerous Jewish categories: Category talk:Jewish mathematicians, Category talk:Jewish dentists and Category talk:Jewish pornostars. There is Russian or Israeli school of mathematics, there was Soviet school of mathematics. There is no such thing as Jewish school of mathematics, and obvioulsy no Jewish mathematics as a separate science. Still as somebody created that categories they feel they are needed and that they certainly know Who is a Jew? is it religion, race, self-identification or the fifth item in the Soviet passport.


 * Regarding Estonian SSR putting 12K of a controversial text sourced to a single political source is most probably WP:UNDUE. Another problem is that the source is written in a language I (and most wikipedians) cannot read with no automatic translation tools available. Thus, I can tell that to have two paragraphs of text on the info that Kohtla-Järve shale industry supplied Leningrad while zero words that that Estonian SSR created that unique industry is POV. I cannot tel l if the bias was in the original source or the source is misrepresented. Alex Bakharev 13:49, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Pam55
Alex, I think it was a wrong decision to unblock a proven sock account of User:Pam55. It was an account used for edit warring only. I do not object to lifting the ban from Behmod on a condition that he is strictly warned not to use socks or meats anymore. Grandmaster 04:39, 22 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Pam did only 21 edits for the whole her wiki carrer. Three of the edits were reverts (two to Azerbaijani people in June and February; one to History of the name Azerbaijan in April). Neither of these edits broke 3RR rule even if lumped with Behmod's. It is hardly an excessive edit warring. At any rate I have warned them to avoid editing the same articles together Alex Bakharev 04:45, 22 June 2007 (UTC)


 * That account made almost no contributions other than rv on controversial articles, 300 (film) also being one of them. I do not think it was a right decision to lift ban from a proven sock account. I asked other admins to review the situation, please comment: Also note that in situations when some users are limited by parole to 1 rv per week even 1 rv counts, and using that account to make rvs looks like provocation to get paroled editors to violate their parole. Grandmaster 04:56, 22 June 2007 (UTC)


 * FYI, I have commented at . Thanks. Atabek 12:01, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

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Another likely sock
Hello. There seems to be another sock puppet created: Hajji Piruz 20:55, 22 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Its probably banned user User:AdilBaguirov.Hajji Piruz 22:08, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

parole
has broken his parole.

Here is where I took out information not related to Yeprem Khan, but rather belong in Sattar Khans article (if you look in the Sattar Khan article you will see that the information is there):

1st revert (Atabek reinserted it):

Naharar added a statement:

2nd revert (Atabek took it out):

Well, I'm pretty sure I know whats going to happen next (Atabek is probably going to come here also and make his usual comments and false accusations) so I probably wont engage him here. Just wanted to report his parole violation to you.Hajji Piruz 21:11, 22 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Nevermind, looks like another admin took care of it already. Thanks anyway, good night.Hajji Piruz 00:13, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Mathes
I've left a question on User talk:AlexNewArtBot. Separately, what art the puposes of these logs and their points? Simply south 18:30, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, mathes were indeed matches. I have fixed the typo. The logs are intended to be used by peoples who edit the rules for the bot. They are interested why an unexpected article get listed and why an expected article was not, also the typical level of calculated points for right articles is important Alex Bakharev 00:34, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

WP:SY
Hi, Alex. If you have some free time, could you please add a feed for new articles related to Syria for WikiProject Syria to your new articles bot? If you need anything specific from me, please leave me a message and I will provide it for you ASAP. Thanks,  An as  talk? 19:48, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

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Image:Betz monument.jpg
Hi, on WP:PUI, you stated that the photographer was willing to license this under the GFDL. Could you please forward the email correspondence to OTRS? Thanks.  howcheng  {chat} 19:10, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Soviet Census (1937)
Hi Alex Bakharev. You are off to such a great start on the article Soviet Census (1937) that it may qualify to appear on Wikipedia's Main Page under the Did you know... section. Appearing on the Main Page would help bring publicity and assistance to the article. However, there is a five day from article creation window for Did you know... nominations. Before five days pass from the date the article was created, please consider nominating the article to appear on the Main Page by posting a nomination at Did you know suggestions. Again, great job on the article. -- Jreferee  (Talk) 20:54, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Can you help me please?
Hi!

Could you solve the problem from the article of Ruslana. Someone deleted 70% of it. Can you revert the page back and calm down the user 'Imprevu'?

Thank you!

AlexNewArtBot GoodLog
AlexNewArtBot GoodLog appears to be blank. Can you take a look at this please? Also, for the DYK good log, is it possible to further screen out articles that have less than four footnotes? -- Jreferee  (Talk) 20:00, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, it is blank for me too. Have to investigate this with the developers Alex Bakharev 23:33, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Reversion of Hu12
I am again going to revert those edits, per WP:SPAM Adding external links to an article or user page for the purpose of promoting a website or a product is not allowed, and is considered to be spam. Although the specific links may be allowed under some circumstances, repeatedly adding links will in most cases result in all of them being removed. Therefore, I am asking you to take part in the discussion on WT:WPSPAM and discuss the link-additions to these pages, where it was spammed onto, first on the talkpages of these pages. Kind regards, --Dirk Beetstra T  C 07:53, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

re Partitions of Poland and Polish-Soviet War
Alex, пытаюсь внести в эти статьи секцию "Prehistory", в которой даю материал по истории территорий, на которой разворачивались события Разделов Польши и Советско-Польской войны 1919-1920. Пишу о том, что это были территории Киевской Руси, а затем русских княжеств, которые только после татаро-монгольского нашествия стали переходить под власть Польши и Литвы, а затем оказались в составе объединенной Речи Посполитой в 16 веке. Даю ссылку на классическую "историю России с древнейших времен" Сергея Соловьева. Так нет же, польские участники стирают всё полностью. И дескать средневековой истории не надо, и Сергей Соловьев - старый источник. И слово Russian по отношению к Киевской руси нельзя применять, только Ruthenian. И вообще откровенно пользуются численностью. Что делать?Ben-Velvel 16:07, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

WP:SY
Thank you so much for adding the feed, Alex. Much appreciated, mate. Best wishes,  An as  talk? 14:34, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Soviet Census (1937)
Dear Alex! Thanks for a very interesting article! regards, Odengatan 19:55, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

User:Kuban kazak
Bakharev, you are known to be extremly supportive to User:Kuban kazak when he is crying of being (in his opinion) "stalked". Given your previous involvement, please be capable to explain that it's insolence to squeal about being "stalked", and "stalk" others in the same time, as he just did at Template:Ukraine Labelled Map.

More importanly, in my opinion it would be valuable for the project if you explaint to your friend that wikistalking constitites "an act of following users around in order to harass them". There is no indication of User:Akhristov following User:Kuban kazak in order to harass him. However, accusing others of wikistalking without merit does constitute harrassement. --Novelbank 21:17, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Novel, I am packing my suitcase. Please solve the issue without me 22:17, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

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Removal of Sourced Info
Can you pay attention here, the user removed sourced material from two legitimate scholarly sources. Thanks. Atabek 07:50, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Non-USSR related referenced material should be merged to the relevant articles
I have studied in a Soviet university in Poland and worked in one.

Thank you for your support regarding the integration, but my article was finally deleted as a whole and I don't have even a copy of it. Xx236 10:44, 3 July 2007 (UTC)


 * I have userfied the article as User:Xx236/Soviet university, Hello from Hithrow airport Alex Bakharev 06:48, 4 July 2007 (UTC)