User talk:Alexandersouthfield

Welcome
Welcome and thanks for your work. Some of your edits to On2Ottawa are a bit at odds with how wikipedia articles are written. I didn't want to wholesale revert them, so asking if you could please take note that:


 * 1) MOS:CITELEAD the opening lines (the "lead" exist only to summaries what is written in the rest of the article. They therefore should not be cited.
 * 2) WP:MISSION isn't a guideline, but it's an essay, but I think it represents consensus here that we don't write mission statements. We tend to write what journalist and academics say about orgs, not what orgs say about themselves. So the "purpose" stuff should be removed, unless it is cited to independent/secondary sources.
 * 3) MOS:OVERSECTION encourages editors to not create short sections (i.e. one paragraph). CT55555 (talk) 19:46, 4 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Can you please wait until the rewrite is completed before doing this? Alexandersouthfield (talk) 19:57, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Ok. How's it now? Alexandersouthfield (talk) 21:10, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you for fixing the over-sectioning and the mission statement issue. It remains problematic that you cite the group's own website for information about themselves - we should say what independent reliable sources say about groups, not what they say about themselves. The article remains not compliant with MOS:CITELEAD. Prior to your edits, everything in the article was cited (except the lead, of course) but not the first section in the History of activities section is not cited (that is easily fixable though). There should not be a "demands" section and the contents of it are problematic. I am not sure this rewrite is an overall improvement, as it has introduced so many issues that have moved it away from the usual set of guides we use to write articles.
 * I think it should probably be reverted back to how it was before you made so many changes. Unless you are able to fix them all. CT55555 (talk) 21:22, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Update. Thanks for taking my feedback and for the continuous improvements to the article. Any talk of mass reverting is now moot. I appreciate your efforts. CT55555 (talk) 19:09, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your help! Alexandersouthfield (talk) 20:26, 5 September 2023 (UTC)