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Administrators' newsletter – July 2020
News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2020).

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Guideline and policy news
 * A request for comment is in progress to remove the T2 (template that misrepresents established policy) speedy deletion criterion.

Technical news
 * Protection templates on mainspace pages are now automatically added by User:MusikBot II (BRFA).

Arbitration
 * Following the banning of an editor by the WMF last year, the Arbitration Committee resolved to hold an RfC regarding on-wiki harassment. The RfC has been posted at Arbitration Committee/Anti-harassment RfC and is open to comments from the community.
 * The Medicine case was closed, with a remedy authorizing standard discretionary sanctions for all discussions about pharmaceutical drug prices and pricing and for edits adding, changing, or removing pharmaceutical drug prices or pricing from articles.

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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 10:25, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

I need your help
There is an article that needs your experience, someone highly recommend you. The article is Tendencia band. I would like you to see it and help to improve it for having it approved in Wikipedia. I know it needs a lot if work, but I can give you better references, and help with the translation, because they are in Spanish mostly. But again, someone said you are the best. I hope you can help... Kubanische (talk) 07:07, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Sorry but too little time. I have a list of articles I am working on, including many translations, so time is short. Also I do not do bands as I know little to nothing of the genre. You failed to add a link to it, to make it easy to find, lithe this: Draft:Tendencia. -- Alexf(talk) 10:17, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

TPA revocation
Hey Alexf, would it be possible to revoke TPA for ? Thanks in advance. --   LuK3      (Talk)   14:39, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅ -- Alexf(talk) 14:40, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

Talk:Ohio
I'm not aware of any rule that says talk page comments need to have sources or they get reverted. Beeblebrox (talk) 18:17, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I was curious about that too. It seems BITEy, and for me to say that is something. Perhaps if the info is already in the article, that should be pointed out to the OP, and if not, a polite request for sources so it can be added is appropriate. Removal isn't. John from Idegon (talk) 19:12, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Maybe you are right. Are these entries meant for the article's page? They would need sourcing to be moved there. What other purpose do they serve in the talk page? Feel free to restore them if you disagree. -- Alexf(talk) 19:15, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

I removed the level-2 warning that this new editor received on their first four edits which were neither disruptive nor out of Wikipedia scope. I can't believe my eyes that this came from an admin. — kashmīrī  TALK  21:37, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

Your editing of userpages
Hi, I noticed that you carry out frequent edits to users' own userpages, mainly removing content:
 * - editor's short bio
 * - editor's phone number and locality (your edit summary: "rm spam")
 * - editor's social media profile address
 * ... and many others.

In all these instances, the content you removed was allowed on Wikipedia. I suggest you revisit WP:UPYES and WP:UPNOT.

Additionally, you in some instances you deleted the entire userpage with similar comments as earlier, as for the editor User:The Abbasid Alsayeid Al Abbassi.

Why not reviewing your pattern of editing? — kashmīrī  TALK  21:54, 5 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Spamming your website or YT channel is not allowed. In the case of the mentions of family names, it is borderline, but adding personally identifiable information in the open internet is questionable at best. -- Alexf(talk) 22:48, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I don't see any such things on WP:UP. Can you link to a policy? — kashmīrī  TALK  22:57, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Additionally, we have this policy that I am afraid you might be violating. By Wikipedia tradition, a userpage belongs to the user and unless there is a gross policy violation, nobody should touch it. — kashmīrī  TALK  23:04, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

Blocking of new user
Hi Alex, I recently conducted a Wikipedia Training in Nairobi and one of the new users came to me and showed me that you deleted her page and she is currently blocked. This was extremely disheartening to her and other volunteers as she had just began her journey as a Wikipedia editor. Her username is: Betty Auma. Kindly assist and let me know what she did wrong and how we can rectify this. --   FaithMwanyolo      (Talk)   12:58, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I'll take a look and help you but you need to supply the proper user name with a link. I did not find a user with that last name. -- Alexf(talk) 12:01, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

Well her user page was deleted/ blocked as well. Her username was Betty Auma Akoth. --   FaithMwanyolo      (Talk)   12:58, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
 * let's start again. I need a valid linked username, like the one you have in your signature. I searched my last 1,000 edits for "Betty", then for "Auma", and "Äkoth". Granted, text searches are inefficient but I got zero hits on these. With well over 160,000 contributions I cannot remember every which one, and without a link it is very hard to find. You need to supply a proper WP link, like you do for yourself: User:FaithMwanyolo, so I can take a look and tell you what it was and how to go about it forward. -- Alexf(talk) 15:19, 14 July 2020 (UTC)

Oh, sorry for that. It is: User:Betty Auma Akoth. --   FaithMwanyolo      (Talk)   09:30, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Ok, now we can check. The reason I did not remember it is because I had nothing to do with it, and had never seen it. The page was blocked by admin, not me. The reason given was a Checkuser check and violation. You would have to take it with him, as I am not a Checkuser and therefore cannot see the reasons to validate and explain. -- Alexf(talk) 10:06, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLXXI, July 2020
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Removal of link in article
Hi,

I've added our company name Royal IHC on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_shipbuilders_and_shipyards. I also added our wiki page, https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_IHC. I can see you've removed the link afterwards. Does it has to do with the fact that this is a Dutch page, i.e. there is no English page yest? Let me know, so that I can create an English page. Thank you! Regards Bas van Oosterhout — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bassie01 (talk • contribs) 08:31, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Correct. As the edit page says, every entry must have an article in the English Wikipedia. This is because WP itself is not a reliable source so we cannot point to other Wikipedias as links or references. -- Alexf(talk) 10:01, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

Ok good to know. We're going to set up an English wiki page. Thx! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bassie01 (talk • contribs) 13:39, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

User talk:Hcd music team
You may wish to revoke TPA.--Cahk (talk) 07:45, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

Message
Alexf, unblock me User:Wacky Wars my locked account, I was going to post this to JBW but I was prevented from editing, so I posted here instead. thanks JBW and Alexf (talk) 03:24, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – August 2020
News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2020). Administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg Red Phoenix
 * Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg Euryalus • SQL
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Jujutacular • Monty845 • Rettetast • Madchester

Oversight changes
 * Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg GB fan
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Keegan • Opabinia regalis • Premeditated Chaos

Guideline and policy news
 * There is an open request for comment to decide whether to increase the minimum duration a sanction discussion has to remain open (currently 24 hours).
 * Speedy deletion criterion T2 (template that misrepresents established policy) has been repealed following a request for comment.
 * Speedy deletion criterion X2 (pages created by the content translation tool) has been repealed following a discussion.
 * There is a proposal to restrict proposed deletion to confirmed users.

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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 08:20, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

User talk:Team316media
You may wish to revoke TPA.--Cahk (talk) 09:31, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅ -- Alexf(talk) 10:10, 3 August 2020 (UTC)

Just a note...
Not to beat a dead horse here but I'm concerned by your assertion here that English Wikipedia disallows non-English userpages. This is simply untrue. Non-english content is allowed on userpages and in userspace. I agree it was out of scope but the fact that it was non-English is not the problem. Also if you come across a spam userpage that is a global userpage, it's best just to tag it with on meta. Praxidicae (talk) 15:14, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Ok, ok, I got it. I already said 'Noted' in there, and I say it here. I stand corrected. It was spam, and it was out of scope for Meta. It was badly worded. I wont repeat that mistake. Thanks. -- Alexf(talk) 15:40, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLXXII, August 2020
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Please help me
Hello Sir My name is MK0122, I am the Manager, Administrator and Founder of Flipkart wiKi Fandom, on this wiki my name is User: Flipkartsysop, my Bot Account caught a member moving the page without meaning, I blocked it for 1 month. When my Bot Account tried to rollback its edit, but it was telling that the failback was failed, please help me now. I blocked this user- My user Page -

Bot User page - MK0122 (talk) 11:51, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
 * These are not en.Wikipedia pages. Nothing we can do. I don't even know why you are asking here. Also please note you should not spam your website (as you did in your user page, and here). -- Alexf(talk) 12:04, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

I am Sorry Sir, Fandom (website) and Wikipedia founder is Jimmy wales. MK0122 (talk) 14:55, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
 * As I said, these are not English Wikipedia pages. Just as I am not an admin in PT.WIkipedia or RU.Wikipedia, or any other Wikimedia Project, there is nothing I can do there. Having never seen or visited Fandom, I know less than I do about the others. They may be based in the same Wiki software, but there are no relations between each other, They are managed locally and their rules are different. -- Alexf(talk) 15:17, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

Are you the manager only for the fun, what do you know how much responsibility is placed on a manager, well let's go and study from nursery to intermediate and then, when you see the manager, I keep doing computer science Have studied, I will make you a manager for two hours without editing your Wikia.MK0122 (talk) 15:40, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
 * It seems you do not understand Wikipedia, and what the project is for. We do not have "managers". We have voluntary admins which are elected by the community. This is an encyclopedia, not a social network. Please stop posting issues unrelated to Wikipedia editing. Thank you for your attention. -- Alexf(talk) 15:51, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

Hello Sir, please forgive me, Sir, will you be my teacher, can you tell me how to work on Wikipedia and other things I want to make Wikipedia free of vandalism, please give me some work, if you give me If you do not work, then I will be sad, Sir, I will report vandalism or other work on the daily pages on Wikipedia (Thank you for talking to me)MK0122 (talk) 03:57, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

Undelete base62
Hello Alexf, You speedy deleted the base62 article with the G4 comment "G4. Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion. This applies to sufficiently identical copies" I don't think it is an identical copy, because I have not seen the previous copy and created this article from scratch. Can you please undelete it? Thanks, --FlippyFlink (talk) 19:44, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Undeleted per request. Go work on it, add refs, and make sure it can defend challenges. -- Alexf(talk) 19:52, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you, I will improve the article :-) --FlippyFlink (talk) 09:59, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

why you deleted the name of Santino Spinelli foro Romani People list?
Hallo, I recently added one of the most notable person of Romany descent living and workingin Italy, like author and poet he is the autor of the poem upon the Monument for Samudaripen in Berlin, as musician he played for 3 Popes Romani Music, he teached at Trieste, Torino, Milano, Chieti and Teramo university for yeas, he has a personal page on Wikipedia, he his the first Italian Rom nominated "Commendatore della Repubblica" by Italian President Mattarella. I think he is a qualified person to be upon this list.

Please let me know why you do not consider Santino Spinelli a notable person. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Daniela De Rentiis (talk • contribs) 09:02, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Because as it is clearly stated in the edit page for List of Romani people, an article in the English Wikipedia is required to be in the list, and the article has to assert notability. Other Wikipedias are not considered reliable. Please read about reliable sources, and please read the Edit Notices when editing a page. They are there for a reason. If you have any questions about how Wikipedia works, please ask at the Tea House. -- Alexf(talk) 17:08, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

Notice about my removal of editing portion from education of India.
Hello Mr Alexf thankyou so much for bringing this to my notice. As being a new I am still on learning path. From next time I will be more natural while editing. Will be more crisp and prisice in my writings. Thank you so much for guidance and valuable feedback. Revrence & regards Ruperi (talk) 17:30, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

Neutral* Ruperi (talk) 23:31, 20 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Read about neutral point of view. If you have any questions about Wikipedia, please ask at the Tea House. -- Alexf(talk) 23:50, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

Thank you so much for guidance. I will definitely read about neutral point of view. Will surely develop myself. Sure I will ask queries. Thank you so much for guidance in my start of Wikipedia journey. Ruperi (talk) 14:02, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Good. You can always rely on the Help Pages, or ask questions at the Tea House. -- Alexf(talk) 14:58, 22 August 2020 (UTC)

DaMarcus
I saw that you removed DaMarcus as a "see also" link from the name list DeMarcus with edit summary of "rm wrong link". Is your objection because DaMarcus is a redirect to DaMarcus Beasley or another reason? My reasoning was that a link to the redirect is more future proof if the redirect is changed to a namelist in the future.—Bagumba (talk) 12:57, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Correct. It should be to a list under that name, not a single person's article. When and if we get more people with the name (haven't checked), then a list or disambiguation page can be made. -- Alexf(talk) 13:00, 22 August 2020 (UTC)

User:Waltzerbot
Why did you spamublock that account, despite the fact that it had absolutely no edits? I'd have understood a botublock, although that too would have been inappropriate, considering the absence of edits, but a spamublock seems to make no sense at all... Salvio 17:19, 23 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Oh? Oops! I meant botublock. Must have pressed the wrong button! Fixed! Thanks for the heads up. (must not do before coffee - must not....) -- Alexf(talk) 17:27, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

Coluccio
find me 5 italians today with that given name :). E io sono italiano, nato e cresciuto in Italia, per questo lo so e te lo dico ;). --2.226.12.134 (talk) 19:33, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
 * That is not the issue. Neutral point of view is. Non è questo il problema. Punto di vista neutrale lo è. -- Alexf(talk) 20:40, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
 * and I agree with npov, of course, but the fact is you don't find that name as given name, here, if you find 100 italians it will be a miracle.. the you can decide everything you want, of course, but you will say Coluccio is an italian given name ;) :)), non me.. --2.226.12.134 (talk) 13:21, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

Unblock my user
I was trying to create my village name page as Bahadurkote of Tehsil Karnah District Kupwara Union Territory of Jammu and Kashmir in census 2011 the village name already exist incorrect as Bahardas koot instead of Bahadurkote if you have any doubt please check Google map or search BAHADURKOTE in the search bar you will found many address in this location please help me for creation the same and unblock my user also Bahadurkote1 (talk) 13:26, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Please follow the instructions in the block notice. That way an uninvolved admin will study the case. The reason for the block was explained to you and you are not addressing it or requesting a new user name Follow the instructions. Creating a Döppelganger account to bypass the block does not help your case. Please stop using it .It will be blocked at it has the same username issues, plus it is an attempt on block evasion. If you want to collaborate, you are welcome to do so, but you must follow the rules of Wikipedia. -- Alexf(talk) 13:35, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

TPA
user:BLACK XNGEL NIGG$ is attempting to abuse her talkpage per filter log. CLCStudent (talk) 13:39, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

Mass deletion
Requesting mass deletion of pages created by this IP editor which are all eligible for U5. Cheers Megan Barris   (Lets talk📧)  08:39, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅ -- Alexf(talk) 08:41, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
 * , A block may also be necessary since they continued adding spam messages after final warning. Cheers  Megan Barris   (Lets talk📧)  08:43, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅ and cleaning up. -- Alexf(talk) 08:45, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

Unblock of User:Dennis Spiegel
Please unblock this user as identity has been confirmed in OTRS. Thanks, Sam-2727 (talk) 22:49, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅ Note left note to engage in COI. -- Alexf(talk) 23:00, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

Talk page access revocation
Hello Alexf, hope you are well. Would it be possible to revoke TPA for ? See Long-term abuse/Kingshowman. Thank you! --   LuK3      (Talk)   01:49, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
 * I don't think it qualifies yet. -- Alexf(talk) 09:35, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

Wikiproject Military history coordinator election nominations open
Nominations for the upcoming project coordinator election are now open. A team of up to ten coordinators will be elected for the next year. The project coordinators are the designated points of contact for issues concerning the project, and are responsible for maintaining our internal structure and processes. They do not, however, have any authority over article content or editor conduct, or any other special powers. More information on being a coordinator is available here. If you are interested in running, please sign up here by 23:59 UTC on 14 September! Voting doesn't commence until 15 September. If you have any questions, you can contact any member of the coord team. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 02:03, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – September 2020
News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2020). Administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg Eddie891
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Angela • Jcw69 • Just Chilling • Philg88 • Viajero

CheckUser changes
 * Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg SQL

Guideline and policy news
 * Following a request for comment, the minimum length for site ban discussions was increased to 72 hours, up from 24.
 * A request for comment is ongoing to determine whether paid editors must or should use the articles for creation process.
 * A request for comment is open to resolve inconsistencies between the draftification and alternative to deletion processes.

Arbitration
 * A request for comment is open to provide an opportunity to amend the structure, rules, and procedures of the 2020 English Wikipedia Arbitration Committee election and to resolve any issues not covered by existing rules.
 * An open request for comment asks whether active Arbitrators may serve on the Trust and Safety Case Review Committee or Ombudsman commission.

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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 09:55, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

Revert
Hello,

Would you mind explaining this revert? The editor was acting in good faith and you reverted it as vandalism. We were guiding them through the paid editing process on the Wikimedia Discord server and trying to get them to do it correctly.

I'm not sure of the reasoning for this so for now I have left it but would you mind explaining it?

Thanks, Giraffer (munch) 18:57, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Fixed. It had code that is unnecessary and not needed. -- Alexf(talk) 19:00, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Giraffer (munch) 19:05, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

xtools
xtools is not working for please do something--Looplips (talk) 02:20, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
 * No idea what you are talking about, I do not use the tool, and even if I did I am not the developer, and have no access to it. You may want to ask at the Tea House. -- Alexf(talk) 02:48, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue Issue CLXXIII, September 2020
The Bugle is published by the Military history WikiProject. To receive it on your talk page, please join the project or sign up here. If you are a project member who does not want delivery, please remove your name from this page. Your editors, Ian Rose (talk) and Nick-D (talk) 12:52, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

Milhist coordinator election voting has commenced
G'day everyone, voting for the 2020 Wikiproject Military history coordinator tranche is now open. This is a simple approval vote; only "support" votes should be made. Project members should vote for any candidates they support by 23:59 (UTC) on 28 September 2020. Thanks from the outgoing coord team, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 05:17, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

Linda Chorney
Alexf, thank you for taking the time to watch Linda Chorney page. I have see libelous remarks left and have removed them, Can I uncover who continues to attack her with these changes.

Regards,

Immerse Alliance ( Scott)
 * Press the History Tab to see previous changes to the page. Please link to the article (as I have done here) to make it easy to find. Remember to always sign your comments in talk pages by adding four tildes at the end. -- Alexf(talk) 12:48, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

Submitting an article
I really want to know how to submit an article. Could you please tell me? Denketchler (talk) 08:42, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
 * There is plenty of help material at WP:HELP. Read Your First Article. Red about the Golden Rule. If you have any specific questions about Wikipedia, please ask at the Tea House. Lastly, please respect copyrights. We take copyright violations seriously in Wikipedia (one of your entries had to be removed today for this issue). -- Alexf(talk) 11:41, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

user page deletion
Why did you delete my user page? (Gage.parrott (talk) 01:48, 29 September 2020 (UTC))
 * Because it was not an appropriate use of it, as explained in the note left to you. -- Alexf(talk) 02:07, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Notification
Not sure why the template went all weird - just wanted to let you know that I left a note on the block for. Long story short, I don't think that Naz was short for Nazi - I think it was just a case of them using a username that had the name of their friend (as Naz seems to be a common enough given name in Turkey). ReaderofthePack (formerly Tokyogirl79)  (｡◕‿◕｡)  08:08, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
 * It does not matter if his name is Naz. The name used has inappropriate connotations. -- Alexf(talk) 09:18, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Nope. Naz is not obviously inappropriate, especially for people from outside Europe or the English-speaking world. The username policy says that an indefinite block is reserved for cases of blatant policy violations, otherwise WP:AGF apply and sometimes username change requests, which must allow appropriate time to the editor. I suggest you reconsider. — kashmīrī  TALK  12:34, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Not so. The original name was RoboNaz1. After it was changed I have no more issues. Unblocked under new name. -- Alexf(talk) 12:50, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – September 2020
News and updates for administrators from the past month (September 2020). Administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg Ajpolino • LuK3
 * Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg Jackmcbarn
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Ad Orientem • Harej • Lid • Lomn • Mentoz86 • Oliver Pereira • XJaM
 * Pictogram voting rename.png →

Guideline and policy news
 * A request for comment found consensus that incubation as an alternative to deletion should generally only be recommended when draftification is appropriate, namely 1) if the result of a deletion discussion is to draftify; or 2) if the article is newly created.

Technical news
 * The filter log now provides links to view diffs of deleted revisions (T261630).

Arbitration
 * The 2020 CheckUser and Oversight appointment process has begun. The community consultation period will take place from September 27th to October 7th.
 * Following a request for comment, sitting Committee members may not serve on either the Ombuds Commission or the WMF Case Review Committee. The Arbitration Committee passed a motion implementing those results into their procedures.

Miscellaneous
 * The Universal Code of Conduct draft is open for community review and comment until October 6th, 2020.
 * Office actions may now be appealed to the Interim Trust & Safety Case Review Committee.

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