User talk:Alexis Jazz/Archives/2023

SkinEnforcer
Thank you for producing SkinEnforcer. I need it to stay sane when browsing Wikipedia whilst logged out. Please can you add some instructions for using the script when logged out? Does it require a tool such as TamperMonkey, or is there an easier way? Certes (talk) 17:09, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Certes, you're welcome. For any onlookers who are wondering: User:Alexis Jazz/SkinEnforcer. TamperMonkey/Greasemonkey is a requirement as enwiki doesn't have a script with the functionality of AnonLoader enabled by default. I can't think of an easier way really. If you already have it running, feel free to add instructions to User:Alexis Jazz/SkinEnforcer yourself or copy/move that page to another namespace if that would help others feel more comfortable editing it. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 17:48, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
 * And what about some general hints for "any onlookers" who haven't used either TamperMonkey or GreaseMonkey before? -- 188.26.86.68 (talk) 20:13, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
 * The home page for Tampermonkey is a good place to start. (Greasemonkey is similar but I've not used it for years.)  You'll need to either know JavaScript or be ready to copy and paste from a suitably licensed source written by someone you trust.  I'm busy at the moment and haven't had time to get it working on Firefox yet, but I'll post a how-to when I do.  Often, the difficult bit is getting the code to run at the right time. Certes (talk) 20:21, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Certes, indeed. The code I used for the timing in Greasemonkey is very ugly and still incorporates a forced delay. It'll largely boil down to  (where 3000 is a 3 second delay before mw.loader.load is called, depending on your system you may need more or less) There must be a neater way, but after trying many things I stuck with the forced delay as it was seemingly the only thing that worked consistently. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 20:39, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Although designed for Japanese Wikipedia, this script works for me in Tampermonkey with  modified to    Greasy Fork is open source (GPLv3 licensed). Certes (talk) 21:54, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
 * The privacy policies for TamperMonkey and GreasyFork appear to indicate that they collect which websites you've visited. I'm going to have to assume they're spyware. 2601:645:0:41C0:D1A0:EB6A:A0C7:18BD (talk) 21:10, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I should have recommended disabling "Anonymous statistics" in the Tampermonkey settings. Other data gathering for both Tampermonkey and Greasy Fork seems to be the usual logs of visiting their websites rather than from using the add-on itself, and seems reasonably minimal compared with the web's (admittedly very poor) privacy norms.  The script itself is just JavaScript which can (and should) easily be audited before copy-pasting.  I'm happy with it, despite sharing your dislike for data gathering, but I'll understand if others might not be. Certes (talk) 22:50, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
 * A Chrome add-on has appeared, though I'll be sticking with Tampermonkey and Firefox for privacy reasons. Certes (talk) 23:13, 21 January 2023 (UTC)

got it
Smallbones( smalltalk ) 17:00, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Smallbones, thanks, if you could shine any light at all on what (might have) happened I'd be grateful. If you need more information I could search my mailbox, not sure what kind of info might be relevant or useful, but just give me a shout. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 17:11, 25 January 2023 (UTC)

You may or may not find this a little interesting
User talk:AmirahBreen. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 11:33, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

AnonLoader
Have you shut down AnonLoader at beta commons? I tried to use it to reference it at meta:Community Wishlist Survey 2023/Reading/Dark mode but apparently it is not there? &#8212;CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 19:08, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
 * CX Zoom, it's there alright, but Vector-2022 changed where the menu is. There's a "Tools" link next to history now in which you'll find the gadget link. IIRC the gadget link is tied to the special pages link, it should be relocated but I have too much on my mind. The gadget links (when the gadget menu is expanded) look a bit malformed now as this menu is rather different from how it was but should still be functional. Btw, it would be better to implement dark mode using prefers-color-scheme. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 19:48, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks, found it! &#8212;CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 12:01, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Copyright notes Iran
Template:Copyright notes Iran has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. Wikiacc (¶) 16:11, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

Modifications to MediaWiki:Vector-2022.js to set unlimited width as the default
Hi,

I've been looking into how to modify this js file to implement unlimited width as the default, following the WMF's declaration that they intend to ignore the consensus to do so. I believe it is possible, by interpreting "limited-width-toggle-on" (from class "mw-ui-icon mw-ui-icon-element mw-ui-button vector-limited-width-toggle") as "limited-width-toggle-off" and vice-versa, but I've been unable to work out how to do this.

I believe you're quite experienced at these sorts of problems; if you have time could you please look into it?

I believe that there is another alternative, which would be unlimited width for everyone, and that would likely be easier to implement, but I if we can avoid that solution I think it would be better to do so. BilledMammal (talk) 07:39, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, I didn't notice your header. I'll try to find another user to ask; if you know one who might be able to do this could you let me know? BilledMammal (talk) 07:41, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
 * BilledMammal, you mean for anons or logged in users? It's unclear to me right now where the setting is stored for anons. A switcheroo on the relevant classes may be safer and easier. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 06:09, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
 * For anons; for logged in users I'm less concerned, as the WMF is planning to provide a mandatory (and hopefully neutrally worded) choice. If I understand what you are suggesting correctly (update the css based on the opposite of what the button class says it is) that is what I am thinking of doing; my issue is that it's been a long time since I've used JS and have been unable to work out how to implement it in the mediawiki environment. BilledMammal (talk) 23:13, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
 * BilledMammal, don't need JS: https://commons.wikimedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Unl-width-test.css Demo: https://commons.wikimedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/Search_engine_cache?withCSS=MediaWiki:Unl-width-test.css The demo shows a Flash of unstyled content but this flash doesn't happen when the CSS is entered in MediaWiki:Vector-2022.css. (tested) Obviously my CSS should be reviewed by other users before deploying it as I only tested it on my system and Wikipedia might have some different classes from Commons. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 08:34, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you; remind me never to be a web developer, I would be terrible at it.
 * I've had to make a minor change to your code, to make it properly toggle the limited width of the preview box (annoyingly, the code for that was hidden in a different CSS file), but otherwise it looks good to me. I'll run it past VPT, and if no one there sees an issue request it be added to MediaWiki:Vector-2022.css. BilledMammal (talk) 20:10, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
 * BilledMammal, see new version with adjustment for special pages and categories. Demo on category. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 07:54, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
 * That looks like it might have fixed things; I'm not seeing any issue with it. I'll pass it on to VPT, thank you. BilledMammal (talk) 09:03, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

EditNoticeOnMobile
Can you please make this gadget usable in any language? I am interested in using it as the default gadget on bnwiki. :) — Yahya ( talk  •  contribs. ) 20:05, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
 * @Yahya: WP:ENOM allows creation of local scripts. First copy the contents of MediaWiki:Gadget-EditNoticesOnMobile.js to bnwiki. Then, copy MediaWiki:Gadget-EditNoticesOnMobile.js/i18n.json, change language code from nl to bn and translate the messages in Bengali. &#8212;CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 17:38, 3 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Yahya, see CX Zoom's comment. If you need more help, just ask. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 03:11, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I have read the page. But I doubt if this will work in non-Latin language Wikipedia. — Yahya ( talk  •  contribs. ) 09:39, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Yahya, why wouldn't it work? — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 20:43, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Yahya, just install it but leave out the "default" option in gadgets-definition so you can test it first using ?withgadget=EditNoticesOnMobile. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 21:26, 5 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Not working. :( — Yahya ( talk  •  contribs. ) 23:37, 5 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I don't know a lot about how JS works, but maybe it could be something related to nomobile class at bn:টেমপ্লেট:সম্পাদনা বিজ্ঞপ্তি লোড? It was removed from the enwiki template on 8 May 2022. &#8212;CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 10:23, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Removed the nomobile class, still not working. — Yahya ( talk  •  contribs. ) 11:18, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
 * It's working now. But I have noticed a strange problem where enabling it from Special:Preferences causes the Twinkle Gadget to automatically turn off. Other users are having the same problem. — Yahya ( talk  •  contribs. ) 15:12, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Yahya, strange. phab:T341421Btw, please update the line for EditNoticesOnMobile in gadgets-definition to include  as EditNoticesOnMobile may not load reliably otherwise. I've updated the documentation, this was an oversight on my part. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 08:58, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Updated, thanks. — Yahya ( talk  •  contribs. ) 15:14, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Yahya, dependencies=mediawiki.storage needs to be within the ResourceLoader section, like . I should have been more specific about that. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 01:41, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

Precious anniversary
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:13, 14 July 2023 (UTC)

Nomination of Capitol Hill's mystery soda machine for deletion
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Hope all is well
I feel like it's been a while. G M G talk  02:13, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
 * GreenMeansGo, it has. I guess I'm supposed to say I'm good, right? I actually don't know. First the future looked potentially bright, then it went pitch black, then it went foggy, now the fog is getting darker. These words probably make little sense, but as the banner says, personal issues. All I'm willing to say publicly about it is that somewhere along the way I slightly annoyed Jeff Bezos. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 18:11, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
 * It happens. One time I got into a conflict with White House staff and ended up in the newspapers. I swore a lot of this stuff off for a while after that thing where a bunch of admins on Commons were blocking each other. If you ever need somebody to vent at, shoot me an email and/or I'll give you my number.  G M G  talk  18:35, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
 * GreenMeansGo, if you're willing to share, could you link one of those articles? (you could also mail if you'd rather not share that publicly) If you were joking, good one! I wasn't joking about Bezos, though.<span id="Alexis_Jazz:1690570615880:User_talkFTTCLNAlexis_Jazz" class="FTTCmt"> — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 18:56, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Ah yes. You shall learn to love and fear me. I am the infamous editor with a different username.  G M G  <sup style="color:#000;font-family:Impact">talk  19:07, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
 * GreenMeansGo, ah, so you're one of the Category:People paid by Big Pharma/Big Government/Big Science/Big Skepticism/Big Atheism to shill too! ;-) If you're curious about Bezos you can mail me, but I more than understand if you don't have the time/interest/etc.<br style="margin-bottom:0.5em"/>It's currently not really that I need to vent. My current situation is nobody's fault. I don't feel angry, I feel like losing hope.<span id="Alexis_Jazz:1690576737676:User_talkFTTCLNAlexis_Jazz" class="FTTCmt"> — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 20:38, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Tell me about it. This week one my kid's friends accidentally shot himself in the stomach and died after a long time dying. Making it to Friday feels like a small victory.  G M G  <sup style="color:#000;font-family:Impact">talk  23:08, 28 July 2023 (UTC)

File:AnonLoader screenshot.png
Hello. Do you no longer need this image? — Ирука13 22:27, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Iruka13, I guess File:AnonLoader screenshot.png is sort of superseded by File:AnonLoader animation.gif. Meh, I'll have it deleted.<span id="Alexis_Jazz:1695688601414:User_talkFTTCLNAlexis_Jazz" class="FTTCmt"> — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 00:36, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

Thanks
Just wanted to thank you for being understanding and charitable of my earlier comment in the discussion that followed this comment. I'd never ask it of an editor, but it feels supportive to have someone intervene when something like that happens, and I very much appreciate it. &mdash;siro&chi;o 02:56, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

Draft:SSSniperWolf
I wanted to inform you that I have started work on the draft.<span id="Davest3r08:1698957151357:User_talkFTTCLNAlexis_Jazz" class="FTTCmt"> — Davest3r08 (^ &lowbar; ^)  ( t a l k )  20:32, 2 November 2023 (UTC)

Remember your memes
Are you sure calling users retarded is a way to win a discussion? I'm sure this was not how you intended to use the meme, but by your own admission, you misremembered it once, so maybe you want to reconsider and remove the reference altogether. Renerpho (talk) 02:34, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Renerpho, effectively I called everyone, very much including myself, retarded. But that's not quite accurate. The spirit of the meme (there are no winners in discussions on the internet) is not the same as the literal message of everyone who argues on the internet being retarded. Because of this I've edited my comment.<span id="Alexis_Jazz:1698980334627:User_talkFTTCLNAlexis_Jazz" class="FTTCmt"> — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 02:58, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I think your edited version is much clearer, which is always better. This is an important discussion to have, and clarity is needed to avoid derailing it. Renerpho (talk) 03:05, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

That's right
Your close of the RfD is spot on. —Alalch E. 17:31, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you. :-)<span id="Alexis_Jazz:1699725462420:User_talkFTTCLNAlexis_Jazz" class="FTTCmt"> — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 17:57, 11 November 2023 (UTC)

Factotum
Hey, I think your tool is not working. It's taking forever for a reply to be sent.<span id="Davest3r08:1699742400812:User_talkFTTCLNAlexis_Jazz" class="FTTCmt"> — Davest3r08 (^ &lowbar; ^)  ( t a l k )  22:40, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
 * (Problem seems to be only on mainspace talk pages)<span id="Davest3r08:1699742437880:User_talkFTTCLNAlexis_Jazz" class="FTTCmt"> — Davest3r08 (^ &lowbar; ^)  ( t a l k )  22:40, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Davest3r08, works for me?<br style="margin-bottom:0.5em"/>You can open the settings and click "bug?" to trigger the error reporter in the location where it happens or is about to happen.<span id="Alexis_Jazz:1699752986571:User_talkFTTCLNAlexis_Jazz" class="FTTCmt"> — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 01:36, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

Future copyright expiration
I just came across Category:Future copyright expiration. Coincidentally, I've been doing a similar solo effort every January since 2021. For January 2024 I'll keep doing what I've been doing, but going forward I plan to make use of the category now that I know it exists. Wikiacc (¶) 01:35, 20 November 2023 (UTC)

Hi
I have a question sir. LionelCristiano (talk) 05:46, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
 * LionelCristiano, you don't say.<span id="Alexis_Jazz:1700545688965:User_talkFTTCLNAlexis_Jazz" class="FTTCmt"> — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 05:48, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I'm new here. My question is this: Other Wikipedias are also reviewed when users make changes, but here, even if there is a vandal, it is approved immediately. Why ? LionelCristiano (talk) 05:53, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
 * An administrator will probably render your question moot fairly soon.<span id="Alexis_Jazz:1700546186234:User_talkFTTCLNAlexis_Jazz" class="FTTCmt"> — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 05:56, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you sir. I love you so much. Have a nice day. LionelCristiano (talk) 06:00, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

Happy Thanksgiving!
<span id="Davest3r08:1700780686267:User_talkFTTCLNAlexis_Jazz" class="FTTCmt"> — Davest3r08 > : )  ( t a l k )  23:04, 23 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Davest3r08, thank you. You may have presumed I'm an American, and I can't blame you. My mother tongue has been decaying for years. I think when I was 10 someone told me I was born in the wrong place, and they were probably right.<span id="Alexis_Jazz:1700797326346:User_talkFTTCLNAlexis_Jazz" class="FTTCmt"> — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 03:42, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

Importing modules
Hey, I noticed you recently imported a bunch of modules. I was wondering if you understood the code you imported and able to maintain them when issues arise. Gonnym (talk) 09:53, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Gonnym, barely, I'd have to ask my friends at Wiktionary for the most part. Cryptic mentioned "copying Wiktionary's machinery that displays this information on their redlinks" on Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals) so I figured I'd do that.<span id="Alexis_Jazz:1700820128531:User_talkFTTCLNAlexis_Jazz" class="FTTCmt"> — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 10:02, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I was afraid of that. That amount of code for me is a bit hard to support in the Emoji discussion for it to be a viable option. If the option of small stubs for each emoji passes (I think that was 7?), then (for me personally) I think manually with some Wikidata support would be better than all that. While I understand and write Lua code, I don't see me going all over that code to change something. I doubt anyone here would (but I might be proven wrong). Gonnym (talk) 10:43, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Gonnym, I prefer Wikidata as well. Cryptic was the one who voiced concerns with Wikidata.<br style="margin-bottom:0.5em"/>Looking at the code, the stuff we actually need from it isn't too hard to understand. I'm a quick study, I'm already starting to understand a few bits.<span id="Alexis_Jazz:1700823314394:User_talkFTTCLNAlexis_Jazz" class="FTTCmt"> — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 10:55, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I didn't say it's hard. It's just that you've imported over 50 modules for one simple feature. I find that amount of code completely insane. I also have a feeling from glancing at a few of the modules, that a lot of the code is Wiktionary specific and for us is just garbage code. Gonnym (talk) 12:07, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Gonnym, um, most of those are very simple static lists like Module:Unicode data/images/01F to find the associated .svg on Commons. That's the price for people who dislike Wikidata and insist on keeping shit local. It's part of Module:Unicode data which we already had.<br style="margin-bottom:0.5em"/>I've reworked User:Alexis Jazz/Emoji to include all the information from Character info and all the Unicode module stuff has Wikidata fallbacks. And Module:EmojiWiktionaryCheck is my own work so that should be fine, no? 🤡<span id="Alexis_Jazz:1700838531360:User_talkFTTCLNAlexis_Jazz" class="FTTCmt"> — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 15:08, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

Hogan's Heroes and Garbage
I don't know that people who work for the Washington Independent would appreciate you calling their work "garbage." If you think the source doesn't meet your view of Wikipedia standards, you might want to think about saying that instead. Thanks for your consideration. Hogan's Heroes (Diff ~1185159858) Alden Loveshade (talk) 22:26, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Alden Loveshade, people? The worst thing they could say is "bite my shiny metal ass".<br style="margin-bottom:0.5em"/> Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 420<br style="margin-bottom:0.5em"/>It's garbage.<span id="Alexis_Jazz:1701045120293:User_talkFTTCLNAlexis_Jazz" class="FTTCmt"> — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 00:32, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

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German influence on Soviet rocketry
Thanks for your idea on RSN using your own cloud .... Surely, I'd like to hand over the documents to "a reliable  source so they can write about it and verify their authenticity". Except for the Zvezda 70 Years (1946-2016) all other documents are publicly available since long but were obviously not really analyzed by the main scholars such as Asif Siddiqi and Michael Neufeld as they are available in German only and out of print, such as Gröttrup (1958), Gröttrup (1959), Albring (1991) and Magnus (1993). Also Uhl's Stalins V-2 (1997) and Mick's Forschen für Stalin (2000) are available in German only. There are incorrect quotations (or English summaries) as I detailed in talk of Soviet rocketry and the never-ending RFC discussion and survey about the lede in German influence on the Soviet space program with ilenart626.

It is also disappointing that Ordway/Sharpe's The Rocket Team (1979) which included a lot of details and research based on many primary sources (even CIA) and personal interviews. Although it is still superior to most other research, is overlaid in the prevailing discussion based on Siddiqi's Challenge to Apollo (2000) and Boris Chertok's personal memoirs Rockets and People (2005). Sometimes I feel myself like running against the iron curtain of the Cold War, due to secrecy and stubbornness of pre-conceived opinions. In many cases, Mark Wade's Encyclopedia Astronautica is closer to that knowledge than often-quoted literature. Olaf Przybilski is another expert of rocket technology who has written about the German influence - but his publications are regularly turned down by English Wikipedians as biased German or even "Nazi" view.

The current talk in Space Race is better positioned since @Neopeius has offered to ask Siddiqi (for better sources) and had a real look into my "compelling argument". If I had a choice, I would ask Anatoly Zak (unbiased author of Russian Web Space) but I don't know how to access him. You are welcome to path another way in parallel to @Neopeius and his membership in the AAS History Committee. An original print of the Zvezda document could be provided for thorough (even forensic) analysis. SchmiAlf (talk) 17:56, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
 * SchmiAlf, on in the sidebar it says "as well as comments on already published material. Please contact Anatoly Zak." and Anatoly Zak is a mailto: link for agzak@undefined.<br style="margin-bottom:0.5em"/>If that one doesn't work, try .<br style="margin-bottom:0.5em"/>I won't be able to help beyond this.<span id="Alexis_Jazz:1701282052904:User_talkFTTCLNAlexis_Jazz" class="FTTCmt"> — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 18:20, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks Alexis. I've written an email to agzak@ a week ago but received no feedback so far. Meanwhile Neopeius has made another proposal for the wording and suggested to "write an article and submit it to Quest Space Quarterly". SchmiAlf (talk) 10:31, 4 December 2023 (UTC)

Kudos, and an alert
Based on my current understanding, I have to admire your exploitation of rights to recreate a salted article, but I am seriously considering starting an ANI over this. This is just about the most outrageous abuse of sub-admin rights I've ever seen. Banks Irk (talk) 01:12, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Banks Irk, please do it if it helps you get this thing off your chest. Anyway, you made it to my global userpage. <br style="margin-bottom:0.5em"/>Your language is interesting. Druthers, briar-patch. I never encountered these words before, so thanks for contributing to my vocabulary. <span id="Alexis_Jazz:1701333513854:User_talkFTTCLNAlexis_Jazz" class="FTTCmt">— Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 08:38, 30 November 2023 (UTC)

Thank you
It appears this bug is now fixed. Thanks for your work on this.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1701711046832:User_talkFTTCLNAlexis_Jazz" class="FTTCmt"> — Qwerfjkl  talk  17:30, 4 December 2023 (UTC)

Source assessment/Battle for Dream Island
As an avid OSC member and BFDI fan myself (obviously outside of Wikipedia), I don't think this is useful. The source assessment page clearly states "Avoid creating subpages for subjects you can reasonably know are not notable and never will be notable." BFDI is clearly not notable for inclusion for Wikipedia, and may never be, especially when the media covers less and less Internet-related topics than they did 10-15 years ago. I would recommend doing a source assessment on Cary Huang, one of the creators of the series, as there is some potential of notability in his case due to having YouTube channels (that I happen to be subscribed to) where he makes (mostly) content unrelated to BFDI getting covered by the media.<span id="Davest3r08:1701730582847:User_talkFTTCLNAlexis_Jazz" class="FTTCmt"> — Davest3r08 > : )  (talk)  22:56, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Davest3r08, I wrote the source assessment page, I know what it says! ;-) But I'll need to add some bits maybe..<br style="margin-bottom:0.5em"/>First of all, BFDI could reasonably become notable someday, especially if one of both of the creators get more coverage. The series is popular enough to potentially warrant a retrospective. It's also not unthinkable that a site like Pluggedin.com would cover it, and I'm kind of surprised they haven't yet. BFDI is more than a garage band. If the videos your garage band uploads get millions of views, it's no longer a garage band and future notability is plausible.<br style="margin-bottom:0.5em"/>But more important than that: it's BFDI. Obviously it needs a source assessment, even if only to show users there really are no reliable sources.<br style="margin-bottom:0.5em"/>OSC - OSC, object show community. That took me a while to figure out.. <span id="Alexis_Jazz:1701732081241:User_talkFTTCLNAlexis_Jazz" class="FTTCmt">— Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 23:21, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
 * You make some fair points @Alexis Jazz, but I would not use a review website that is owned by an anti-LGBTQ Christian organization as an example, especially when one of the characters has been confirmed to be non-binary by the team (the twins hired some employees back in 2017).<span id="Davest3r08:1701736596679:User_talkFTTCLNAlexis_Jazz" class="FTTCmt"> — Davest3r08 > : )  (talk)  00:36, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
 * You would be unaware of this, so this might not be your fault and that's fine. I just don't think some obscure Christian review website with some very large and alarming biases would demonstrate notability anyways.<span id="Davest3r08:1701737285177:User_talkFTTCLNAlexis_Jazz" class="FTTCmt"> — Davest3r08 > : )  (talk)  00:48, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Davest3r08, they are biased, but so are many reviewers. I don't think a review has to be NPOV to contribute to notability. Imagine a book reviewer who is openly gay. Clearly biased. Are we going to ignore those reviews?<br style="margin-bottom:0.5em"/>It's something to keep in mind, but my impression is that while they focus on Christian values, they still provide useful information, especially for parents. I'd expect them to note the cartoon violence and drug use for example. But I'm pretty sure Tom and Jerry did the same thing, and they covered Tom and Jerry. Unfortunately, I just don't know of many sources that cover this type of content.<span id="Alexis_Jazz:1701738359919:User_talkFTTCLNAlexis_Jazz" class="FTTCmt"> — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 01:05, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh, I see.<span id="Davest3r08:1701738395825:User_talkFTTCLNAlexis_Jazz" class="FTTCmt"> — Davest3r08 > : )  (talk)  01:06, 5 December 2023 (UTC)

A wikicat for you...
...to help you turn your world back to normal. I pray for you the best. <b style="color:#ff6600;">The 🏎 Corvette 🏍 ZR1</b><b style="color:#0a0a0a;">(The Garage)</b> 21:44, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
 * The Corvette ZR1, I actually want for my life to get turned upside-down. It's my greatest wish.<span id="Alexis_Jazz:1702333348383:User_talkFTTCLNAlexis_Jazz" class="FTTCmt"> — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 22:22, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Aw, shucks. Totally unexpected. But hey, at least I DID get you to respond... <b style="color:#ff6600;">The 🏎 Corvette 🏍 ZR1</b><b style="color:#0a0a0a;">(The Garage)</b> 22:27, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
 * The Corvette ZR1, kitties are good at turning things upside down, let's hope your kitty will do just that.<span id="Alexis_Jazz:1702335924956:User_talkFTTCLNAlexis_Jazz" class="FTTCmt"> — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 23:05, 11 December 2023 (UTC)

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Nomination for deletion of Template:FoP-NL
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Nomination for deletion of Template:Factotum comment link
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AFC close at Requests for comment/Emoji redirects
Hey, not sure if you saw yet but the AFC was closed with some helpful comments. I'm still mulling over the draft and will attack it when I have some more energy. I hope you're new year is, well... exactly as exciting as you want? Yeah. No more and no less exciting than you want.

Cheers, microbiology Marcus (petri dish·growths) 19:46, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
 * MicrobiologyMarcus, today has been an amazing day. I smiled, I cried, I smiled through the tears. Gave away well over $2000 to someone who deserved it, no regrets whatsoever.<br style="margin-bottom:0.5em"/>I'm not there yet. But I'm more hopeful than ever.<br style="margin-bottom:0.5em"/>Wiki templates are not on my mind right now.<span id="Alexis_Jazz:1703801030632:User_talkFTTCLNAlexis_Jazz" class="FTTCmt"> — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 22:03, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

Scripts++ Newsletter – Issue 23
<div style="border-style:solid; border-color:#606060; background-color:#f8f8f8; border-width:2px; text-align:left; padding:7px; border-radius:1em; box-shadow:0.1em 0.1em 0.5em rgba(0,0,0,0.75);" class="plainlinks"> New year, new scripts. Welcome to the 23rd issue of the Wikipedia Scripts++ Newsletter, covering around 39% of our favorite new and updated user scripts since. That’s right, we haven’t published in two years! Can you believe it? Did you miss us?

Got anything good? Tell us about your new, improved, old, or messed-up script here!

Cscr-featured.svg Featured script

 * RefRenamer by Nardog is this issue's featured script. For whatever reason, the foundation will only give us better reference names in VisualEditor if we wish for it in the next survey. Nardog to the rescue! This script has a ton of options to satisfy almost anyone who wishes to use better refnames than ":0" and ":418".

Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg Updated scripts

 * Nardog: MoveHistory can now look up the move history of any page from anywhere on the site.
 * User:Enterprisey/diff-permalink now has a version that copies the Special:Diff link with square brackets.
 * User:GhostInTheMachine/WatchlistTidy now moves the Active Filters panel to the right so that the Show/Hide button doesn't constantly jump.
 * User:Alexander Davronov/HistoryHelper has now become stable with some bugfixes and features such as automatically highlighting potentially uncivil edit summaries and automatically pinging all the users selected.
 * AutoEd/unicodehex.js will no longer replace legacy MediaWiki dot-entities (dot followed by two uppercase alphanumeric characters) in article links, which caused several links to become broken.



Ambox important.svg Improve a script

 * Many of our favorite scripts such as User:Fred Gandt/userResourceManager, User:Guarapiranga/search-shortcuts and User:Bradv/Scripts/Superlinks haven't been updated for Vector 2022. You could be the one to change that!
 * User:Elominius/gadget/media timer works, but its UI looks alien. Someone could improve it...
 * To a lesser extent, the same goes for User:PrimeHunter/Search sort.js. I wish someone would integrate the sorts into the sort menu instead of adding 11 portlet links.
 * We want...
 * ...a mark-as-read button for Watchlyst Greybar Unsin
 * ...a tool to automatically fix CAT:BROKENREFs, preferably a fork/addition to User:TheJJJunk/ARA
 * ...a fix/fork of User:DannyS712/SectionRemover.js to make it work

1009Clock.jpg Requested scripts

 * A WP:3O requesting and responding tool, similar to Terasil's classic edit request tool
 * A "bytes removed"/"added" filter on the user contribs page
 * A review tool for WP:proposed deletions
 * Mass patrol new pages by a user for use in WP:RFP/A
 * ...and many more, all available at User scripts/Requests

Gnome-colors-list-add.svg New scripts

 * Aaron Liu: Watchlyst Greybar Unsin is a rewrite of Ais's Watchlist Notifier with modern APIs and several new features such as not displaying watchlist items marked as seen (hence the name), not bolding diffs of unseen watchlist elements which doesn’t work properly anyways, displaying the rendered edit summary, proper display of log and creation actions and more links.
 * Alexis Jazz: Factotum is a spiritual successor to reply-link with a host of extra features like section adding, link rewriting, regular expressions and more.
 * User:Aveaoz/AutoMobileRedirect: This script will automatically redirect MobileFrontend (en.m.wikipedia) to normal Wikipedia. Unlike existing scripts, this one will actually check if your browser is mobile or not through its secret agent string, so you can stay logged in on mobile! Hooray screen estate!
 * Chlod:
 * Deputy is a first-of-its-kind copyright cleanup toolkit. It overrides the interface for Contributor copyright investigations for easy case processing. It also includes the functionality of the following (also new) scripts:
 * Attribution Notice Template Editor (ANTE) graphically modifies content attribution notices. It is the successor to User:Chlod/Scripts/CopiedTemplateEditor and supports more templates than copied ones.
 * Infringement Assistant allows a user to hide sections of a page for suspected copyright violations and report the page to the appropriate Copyright problems noticeboard.
 * User:Elominius/gadget/diff arrow keys allows navigation between diffs with the arrow keys. It also has a version that requires holding Ctrl with the arrow key.
 * Enterprisey
 * diff-permalink-2 allows quickly copying wikilinks to diff and permalink pages from those pages, a variation of existing script User:Enterprisey/diff-permalink
 * archiver is a fork of Σ's Archiver with several bugfixes.
 * /parent-cats highlights categories that are a subcategory of a category already included in a page's categories.
 * User:Guarapiranga/accessKeysCheatSheet adds an access key shortcut to display all shortcuts based on code provided by Nardog and NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh.
 * User:HungKhanh0106/ProperDisplay loads a bunch of fonts to add correct rendering supports for "esoteric" languages.
 * User:Jeeputer/highlightPiped will make piped links irresistible (or else).
 * User:Jerome Frank Disciple/curlyfixer.js adds an WP:AutoEd function that straightens curly quotes per MOS. That's right! Such a module was only made in the 14th year of AutoEd's existence! Configure away!
 * Frequently link to Wikipedia on your websites yet find generating CC-BY credits to be such a hassle? Say no more! User:Luke10.27/attribute will automatically do it for ya and copy the credit to yer clipboard.
 * User:MPGuy2824/MoveToDraft, a spiritual successor (i.e. fork) to Evad37's script, with a few bugs solved, and a host of extra features like check-boxes for choosing draftification reasons, multi-contributor notification, and appropriate warnings based on last edit time.
 * Nardog
 * /CopyCodeBlock: one of the most important operations for any scripter and script-user is to copy and paste. This script adds a copy button in the top right of every code block (not to be confused with ) that will, well, copy it to your clipboard!
 * /RCMuter: Hide specific users, perhaps User:MediaWiki message delivery, from the Watchlist and Recent Changes.
 * /VitalTopicon makes you see the vital article topicon on WP:vital articles.
 * m:User:NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh/AceForLuaDebugConsole.js adds the Ace editor (a.k.a. the editor you see when editing JS, CSS and Lua on Wikimedia wikis) to the Lua debug console. "In my opinion, whoever designed it to be a plain needs to seriously reconsider their decision."
 * Novem Linguae
 * DraftCleaner fixes formatting of new articles.
 * GANReviewTool quickly and easily closes good article nominations.
 * ReviewStatus displays whether or not a mainspace page is marked as reviewed.
 * SpeciesHelper tries to add the correct speciesbox, category, taxonbar, and stub template to species articles.
 * User:Opencooper/svgReplace and Tol's fork replaces all rasterized SVGs with their original SVG codes for your loading pleasures. Tell us which one is better!
 * User:Phlsph7/HighlightUnreferencedPassages adds a button to highlight all unreferenced paragraphs in reds, and can even do it automatically.
 * Still hate Vector 2022's floating TOC? User:Phlsph7/UnfoldedNumberedTOC(Vector2022) might make you give it a try.
 * Quite a bit of pages at Special:WantedCategories either exist now or got removed. User:Qwerfjkl/scripts/hideUnwantedCategories automatically hides those.
 * User:SuperHamster's Tools/View it! generates a gallery of images for a given subject on any Wikimedia project utilizing Structured Data on Commons. Images can then be added as needed.
 * Terasail
 * ArticleInfo displays page information at the top of the page, directly below the title.
 * /HeaderIcons takes away the Vector 2022 user dropdown and replaces it with all of the icons within, top level, right next to the Watchlist. One less click away! There's also an alternate version that uses text links instead of icons.
 * ...and any more, all available at WP:US/L.

Due to budget and procrastination limitations, we've only had time to review the first ~39% of the scripts since last issue. Help us out here! <span style="color: rgb(6,69,173); text-decoration: inherit;">Aaron Liu (talk) 13:24, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

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