User talk:Alexlayer/Archive 1

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KP vandalism
Please stop. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, you will be blocked from editing.


 * You're the one that's vandalizing. The vandalism you're committing is adding unnecessary sexual fanfiction to a page. --=CJK= 00:38, 19 May 2007 (UTC)


 * You know you're wrong. Even with this warning here, you have nothing to accuse me of. "Unnecessary sexual fanfiction" is just YOUR opinion about KiGo's existance, and I can prove it wrong. --Alexlayer 02:34, 19 May 2007 (UTC)


 * I just accused you of adding unnecessary sexual fanfiction to a page! It's WP:OR, it's perverted, it's lots of things. You're crossing too many lines here, so just give up, okay? Thanks. --=CJK= 04:27, 19 May 2007 (UTC)


 * It's not Original Research if it is SOURCED as it is. I told you, the information is valid, and there's no reason at all to remove it. --Alexlayer 04:46, 19 May 2007 (UTC)


 * No, it has nothing to do with vandalism, just be careful that people don't start removing pictures randomly simply because they think that they aren't useful. That picture was cool, but oh well. Also, that Kigo stuff is perverted!! Okay, I'm done. =CJK= 01:44, 26 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Look, I know the picture was cool and all (C'mon, I myself uploaded it!), but that picture has nothing to do with Shego's personality, and there's already one picture of Shego and Kim fighting. Other than that, the picture is used in Kim's article, so it's not like it is forgoten.


 * I do like to ilustrate articles as much as I can, but that doesn't mean I'm just going to put a lot of pictures around if there's no meaning. Right now, all pictures in Shego's article are there for a reason, and so should be anyone that's added.


 * Sorry that you don't like KiGo, but let's try to put our differents opinions aside, all right? --Alexlayer 02:11, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

User:Johnny Master question
I reverted the question you posted on User:Johnny Master. I don't know why he left, but since it appears that he did, he is not likely to answer your question. You should post questions and comments to people's Talk pages, instead of their User page. -- Gogo Dodo 05:46, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Re your message: Not a problem. I did notice that he said to do whatever anybody wanted to his User page, but then he blanked it, so I took that as his final wish.  Welcome to Wikipedia. =) -- Gogo Dodo 07:16, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Kevin Ryman article
In regards to the Kevin Ryman article, if you really wish to leave the "Desperate Times" information in, so be it, even though there are virtually no differences in gameplay between survivors other than a few lines of text which only serve to lengthen the article more than necessary. At least rewrite it so that it sounds better and check your spelling and punctuation. If it's going to be done, it has to be done properly, no compromise there. You are, however, going to have to explain and provide evidence regarding any relationship between Kevin and Cindy, there is a strict policy against the seemingly endless supply of original research provided by editors. Unless you can provide a link, website or in-game file that states otherwise, it must be removed. Also, full names are necessary, as this is an encyclopedia that is, more often than, used by people who are not familiar with the Resident Evil franchise. You mus provide a full name, which may then be followed up by using only the first name. I don't want this to become another administrative nightmare cluttered by red-tape and pointless back-and-forth arguments so I'd like us to reach a compromise on this issue before it gets out of hand. You can reply here, I will monitor your userpage for a response so that we may come to an agreement on what is relevant to the article. Cheers. Gamer Junkie 02:07, 28 August 2006 (UTC)


 * First of all: I'm sorry that this turned out into an argument.


 * Let see, about the "Desperate Times" situation, I added it just like it was added some information of "Below Freezing Point" and "Decisions decisions" in Yoko's Article, or about "Flashback" in Alyssa's. Now, as you requested, I'll edit it and try to make it better, also making it more personal and related to the character and his role in the scenario. I'm also planing to make the same with the Scenario Information of other characters, and adding others, like "Wild Things" in Cindy's and "Outbreak" in Mark's, where the characters have unquestionable rol.


 * Now, about the relationship between Kevin and Cindy, that's not really my doing. The whole thing started with what appeared to be the doing of someone who is a real fan of the Kevin/Cindy pairing, who started adding a lot of subjetive information (Mostly fanfiction-like) about it in Kevin's and Cindy's article (specially in this last one, check the article's history and you'll see things I deleted about it), and even some things in George and Yoko articles (Like trying to fight the hints that lead the Kevin/Yoko and George/Cindy pairings). Most of what he did was for instant-deletion, and someone else would have done if it wasn't me, but, since a bit of the information seemed to be possibly, I decided to leave a small coment about the possibility of Kevin having a crush on her, but not really wanting to make it official (In part, I left it because I thought that, if I deleted all of it, the one who made it would make it again, something that I've seen happening sometime). Anyway, I'm not going replace that Trivia point again (I really don't care). I'll leave to your judgment.


 * About the full names, I won't delete them again. It's just that I find them a little unsuitable in the middle of the text like that, and I really haven't seen very much full names (Even if the link to the article it's added) in other articles about videogame's characters.


 * I hope this serves as enough explaining. I'm sorry for wasting your time like this, and thanks for . I'll eventually make the remaining contributions to the other characters of RE Outbreak.


 * Oh, and forgive me if my spelling and grammar are not perfect, but I don't really handle the English perfectly. (I'm from Argentina, and still have one year and half of enlish study). See you around. (Alexlayer 05:18, 28 August 2006 (UTC))


 * For a second language, your English is excellent. It was mostly smaller errors to do with pronounciation of words after vowls and such, nothing major, which can be easily repaired so no need to worry about that so much.  If you would perhaps like me to re-write the section for you, I will do so at your request.  About the trivia, I had a sneaking suspicion that it was not your doing as I've seen your posts on multiple occasions and, although I can't remember each and every addition, I do know that I have never really felt the need to reverse or correct something you have added and that said additions are more than acceptable.  However, when you kept returning the point, I figured that maybe you had wrote it without signing in, as some users have done that from time-to-time.  In any case, trivia is already huge, and if a person is unable to provide some sort of evidence to back-up their personal theories, then they must be deleted.  I'm not so sure about the Tom Cruise/Christian Slater addition, myself, but that's about as far as I'm willing to go with unsupported trivia points.


 * With the full names. I know it sounds very formal and awkward, unfortunately that is necessary.  People who are unfamiliar with the Outbreak series, especially those who are familiar with Resident Evil on a whole will often come across these pages when browsing RE articles.  In almost all encyclopedias, this is standard practice.  If somebody were to add "George Washington's friend Tom wrote much of the "Declaration of Independance" upon the creation of the United States", ofcourse an American might know who Tom is, but to an Argentinian like yourself or an Australian like myself, it might not be immediately obvious that this sentence refers to Thomas Jefferson.  This is why it is annoying, but necessary, to add full names when first introducing characters.


 * I'm glad that we could approach this rationally, some users have a tendency to simply type insults and vandalise userpages rather than use commonsense like yourself. Have a good day. Gamer Junkie 15:49, 28 August 2006 (UTC)


 * I'm also glad that we could make a rational agreement, and thanks for what you said about my english.


 * I've already rewrote the Desperate Times information, passing some points of the trivia to it. As you said, some characters trivia is doubtlessly huge, and I'm planing to make something about it. I also make some adjustments to the Outbreak information of Yoko, and I still have some things to do with other characters. Hopefully, after all this, there'll be hardly some more editions to make.


 * I'll try to make the best with this articles, but if you notice some spelling or gramar erros, I'd be graceful if you could make needed corrections.


 * See you around, (Alexlayer 03:43, 29 August 2006 (UTC))
 * Gotcha. Oh, and it's "grateful".  Normally I wouldn't bring it up, but "graceful" is an entirely different word. Cheers. Gamer Junkie 16:19, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Siegfried Schtauffen
Greetings. I'd want to explain to you in detail the reasons behind the revert on said Soul series' character page, Siegfried Schtauffen, point by point:

1. Copy-paste from official sites IS wrong in Wikipedia for two reasons: - Its copyright violation, unless its cited which that cannot be. Other characters, like Olcadan, Tira and Cassandra used to have copy-paste from their SCIII profile. Why do you think they don't anymore? Why the Bonus characters page was deleted, among other things? Because of copy-paste. "Small adaptation" doesn't work, the article should be written from scratch, based on official sources. - Wikipedia is not a fansite nor a website of the page. Recycling the same information, seen in thousand other places, is not encyclopediac. Articles here are to give an insight into the character, not necesary to repeat official profiles that can be found everywhere.

As a side note, I've read the whole profile and I feel that both that and Nightmare should be cleaned up greatly, as 80% are almost identical. Nightmare should tell about Nightmare, and Siegfried about Siegfried. A note leading to the other page indicating that to seek further information on events pertaining the other should be add. So I'm planning on a full rewrite this time.

2. The story-telling is not resolved. The article is written in such a form that it looks like a novel or a tale. Articles on Wikipedia are made formally, with clear statement. Having biographies wrote with the idea of "telling a tale" should be reverted at sight.

3. There's way too many overabundance of analysis and description on the profiles, wich is not encyclopedic: Some examples:

After some time, the azure knight returned to his old stronghold, Ostrheinsburg Castle. This land, which had once tasted the blood of many (unnecesary comment), was a fitting stage for the restoration of the evil sword's true power.

The two of them faced off in the ruins of the chapel, and the place became alive with flying sparks and blood (too descriptive and story-telling), but at the end of the fierce battle Nightmare stood victorious. The evil incarnate stepped forward to finish Raphael off, as he muttered something incoherently. (Nothing to do with Nightmare. That should be stated in Raphael's page).

The battle waging deep within his mind caused the azure knight to stand motionless. ''Beside him, the wounded body of the fallen Raphael trembled. Only Rapahel's great will enabled his gravely injured body to move. Drawing on his last strength, Raphael unleashed a desperate final blow upon his enemy'' (Description of events not pertaining the article's character. Once again, all that should only be mentioned, and the full description should go to Raphael).

And all the dialogues? Totally unencyclopedic. All that should be removed and re-writen. Why do you think no other character has copy-pasted their profiles? Because all are written in a manner not suitable for an encyclopedia.

I know you had tried hard to expand and keep the articles, but things like this would only lead to revert wars and possibly the deletion of the article. I'll fix things after getting your response. Thanks for reading and hope you understood.

Good bye. 201.255.24.79 00:21, 21 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Well... I guess I really got a lot more to learn about Wikipedia. Thanks for explaining me this, and sorry for borrowing your time. For now, I've alredy reverted my last editions in Siegfried's Article (Except by a little thing that I just don't agree with).


 * I guess that's all I got to say. Thanks and sorry again. See you around (Alexlayer 00:45, 21 September 2006 (UTC))

Copyvio
Please do not add copyrighted images missing their mandatory information to articles, such as you did to Yoko Suzuki. Wikipedia takes copyright and fair-use issues very seriously. Thanks. --Yamla 14:24, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Fine! Fine! But how can I add an image without having copyright problem!?

Smash Bros. userbox
should be changed to, because the userbox's | indicator means that you have to type the name of the Wikipedia article referring to the character and then the name of the character. means the Wikipedia article name, while means the actual character name.

should become

Decimus Tedius Regio Zanarukando 04:18, 2 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks for telling Alexlayer 09:39, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

List of characters in Devil May Cry & Devil May Cry 2
Hello!

I notice you created the article Women in Devil May Cry and seem to have a passion for the Devil May Cry series of games. I'm currently working on expanding both the Women in Devil May Cry article (now renamed) and the article on Devil May Cry 2. I'd like to invite you to join me in improving these articles.

Cheers, Lankybugger 18:26, 4 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Sure, count me in. Actually, I haven't been able to visit this page lately, so I couldn't say my part in the discussion about the fate of this article, but I'm actually happy that it was renamed like that, since that was somehow my idea when I started the article, to make one about the female characters and one about the antagonists, since, until now, save for Dante and Sparda, DMC series has only male antagonist and female co-protagonist and supportive characters.
 * Anyway, I'll do my best for the articles! (Alexlayer 19:37, 4 January 2007 (UTC))

Rewrite of the plot section of Devil May Cry 2
Since you've got an interest in the Devil May Cry articles, I figured you'd like to drop by and give me your comments about my rewrite. I'm planning on doing similar sourcing for the Gameplay section and the Reaction section. Cheers, Lankybugger 08:35, 7 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the input! Cheers, Lankybugger 19:58, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Kyrie and Nero info
Hey there. I was very interested by the Kyrie and Nero information you added to Characters in Devil May Cry, but I'd really like to know where you got that from. For my part, I'm trying to be stricter on what information is added (as I've been following this more in depth lately), and if a new fact doesn't have a cite, I don't want it in there. But that info sounded pretty plausible, and you're not the type to add in message board discussions or your own speculations. So where'd you hear it? We'll cite it and put it back in. Thanks! --Boradis 19:16, 24 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Check on DMC4's official site, they recently released the english part of the site, and so for the Character Section. The information is taken directly from the official site. I did mention it in the update (In Kyrie's update, the message was "Acording information to DMC4's official site"), but don't worry, I understand your actions. Now that the things are clear, I'm going to put that information again. If you feel like sourcing it, please do.


 * Thanks for tracking down this information, but you missed a couple of crucial steps. Firstly, Wikipedia can't simply reproduce the text from another site. It's plagiarism, which is dishonest (it presents the work of others as our own) and opens Wikipedia up to the threat of lawsuits (see: User:Andries/Wikipedia:plagiarism for an explanation). Secondly, that text was full of a tendency you still have, which is to use "peacock terms". Wikipedia is not supposed to be an exciting read, it simply presents the facts in a no-nonsense manner. And finally I sourced it for you, but that shouldn't be the responsibility of others. Please learn how to do it yourself, read Citing sources. It's not hard, takes only a moment to do, and makes all of the information reliable. Wouldn't it be nice if all the "Devil May Cry" pages were seen as high-quality pages on Wikipedia? If we all follow these guidelines, they can be. That's my hope. --Boradis 06:11, 25 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Gotcha, I'll keep it in mind. Sorry for the troubles (Alexlayer 06:18, 25 January 2007 (UTC))

WikiProject Devil May Cry
Hey there I recently suggested the creation of a new WikiProject based on Devil May Cry, and I was wondering if you might be interested in supporting us, if you are please sing the Interested Wikipedians section on the Devil May Cry entry here, thanks for your time. -Dark Dragon Flame 08:59, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

About the images in Dante's Article
I pretty much agree with what you say, and for myself I've tried to steer clear of removing people's work if it's accurate, done in good faith, and procedures are followed correctly, like you have on the images. That said, more isn't always better, and we kind of discussed this during the transition from Women in DMC to Characters in DMC. I'd like it to be a Featured Article, or at least a Good Article, and the way to get there is to follow the example of pages that are or have been so honored. And where does the page differ from say the Featured version of Link? Firstly, there are very, very few cites for the facts presented. Second, it's still kind of messy, with lots of subsections. And lastly, the Link page has just a few images. I think that Dante's page basically should have a lead image, and perhaps one small image of his appearance in the core four games -- and that's still more pictures than Link has. What the Dante page needs is the correct amount of everything. --Boradis 18:58, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Devil May Cry 2 FAC
Hello, I've currently placed the Devil May Cry 2 article as a Featured Article Candidate. I'd appreciate it if you took the time to review the article and commented on the nomination. Please be as brutal as possible. Cheers, Lankybugger 19:30, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

DMC Template proposal
I've currently proposed a totally new navigation box for the Devil May Cry template. I'd very much appreciate your comments on the navbox, if you'd care to take a look. If you support the navbox, please indicate this on the talk page. Cheers, Lankybugger○ speak○ see○ 18:31, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Devil May Cry Task Force
Finally after a month the Devil May Cry Task Force is open for bussiness, come on in and see the menu! -DDF

Devil May Cry nominated for Featured Article

 * Please vote and make your suggestions here -- 凶 18:39, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Devil May Cry 2 Protagonists picture
Very appropriate, very awesome. Very nice touch to the article, Alex. I went ahead and added the Fair Use Rationale to the picture. Cheers, Lankybugger ○ speak ○ see ○ 01:14, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Your welcome, and thanks for adding the Faur Use Rationale, I still got to learn a bit about that myself --Alexlayer 01:16, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Devil May Cry 3 nominated for Featured Article
Please vote and make your comments here - 凶 01:42, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Article of the week
I removed your vote from here because per policy, voting is not allowed on that group of articles until May 8. I placed them on the page so everyone can get a good look at all the articles and be able to make a fair and educated decision as to what articles to vote for. Diez2 23:40, 29 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Sorry --Alexlayer 00:05, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Dante
Dante is up as a Featured Article Candidate please voice your opinion here. - 凶 02:56, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Agreed.
Hello.

Regarding your comment to me about Warmonga. For the record, you are completely correct and I agree with you wholeheartedly. What you have to understand is, I didn't make a separate article on Warmonga. Someone else wrote the article. I just added to it and linked it to the Kim Possible main section. I just thought that was the best way to do it without stepping on anybody's toes.

Anyway, that was how it went down. If someone wants to correct it and put her in the Minor Villains section, that can be easily arranged, I'm sure.

Thanks for talking. Write back soon if you'd like.

TuxedAaron 08:25, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Shego
I'm following the Wikipedia MOS. You're using unencyclobedia language (for example, the way that you described Shego's jumpsuit), are attributing significance without third party cooberation (for example the passage about Shego meeting up with her brothers), and we really need to be careful about the oer use of images as there is a group of admin going ape over this right now and if we aren't careful the entire Shego page might be locked with only the one image at the top allowed.

I support each and every one of my edits and can back them up using the MOS and guidelines for writing about fiction. Please take a look at them, your edits are in danger of crossing over into an "in universe perspective" and WP:OR, which could get the page in trouble.

perfectblue 08:31, 20 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Uh... may I request a link to that "MOS" thing, whatever it is, please? --Alexlayer 08:33, 20 May 2007 (UTC)


 * And personally, don't be too worry about the use of images. No one can blame us as long as we use them for informative reasons. Check the Featured Articles I mentioned in the Talk Page and you'll see.

No problem.
Glad we got that squared away. If you ever want to comment again, feel free. I'm making edits all the time.

TuxedAaron 08:31, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Fanon
AFAIK, Wikipedia doesn't have a specific policy for Fanon, but it does have guiding principles that are important here, namely WP:N, WP:A, and WP:RS. If those don't answer your questions, feel free to ask me specifically about what can and can't be included. McKay 14:50, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Co-Co-Moo, etc. on "Stop Team Go"
Point taken (and, might I add, that was fast!).

However, I will argue it's relevant in that "co-co-moo" is a subtextual "Verbal Signature:" A narrative device in the form of a dissonant, highly apparent outward symptom of a character's inner change. Not exactly like a zombie saying "brains" but.. you get the picture. I defer to your wiki-senority: I made my case.

I am, however, seeking guidance on the next section, "Fan Reaction." Some anonymous soul took it out earlier: I restored it. The question: Am I making a conjectural statement here? Or is it alright to point out such an obvious (but impossible to prove) message from the creators of KP and expand on it? Gimme a second opinion! Sbgdcom 01:09, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Input request
Hi Alexlayer, there is some discussion currently going on here, and I noticed you have User anime on your userpage. If you are not too busy, I would appreciate it if you could drop some of your ideas on how to reform the portal on the aforementioned talk page. Thanks!  «  A NIMUM   »  23:05, 7 June 2007 (UTC)