User talk:Alexoc

A tag has been placed on This is a Test, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done because the page appears to have no meaningful content or history, and the text is unsalvageably incoherent.

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If the page you created was a test, please use the sandbox for any other experiments you would like to do. Feel free to leave a message on my talk page if you have any questions about this. Andrew c [talk] 21:01, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Jack Black
Hi Alex. In my view the greater part of the article was advertising, and there were no independent verifiable sources for the notability of the article. There were also numerous unreferenced claims.
 * 1) This triggered a desire to change career 
 * 2) Whilst still holding his job and busy building a successful business at the height of the skiing season, he collapsed in a hairdresser’s. This was the turning point that (through his desire to find methods of managing stress) led him to teach..''
 * 3) The classic personal development programme that motivates you to achieve the life you want - spam
 * 4) The MindStore courses have been taught in 4 continents (no ref) Jack Black is a renowned keynote speaker and is in constant demand on the conference circuit.
 * 5) Over half of the FTSE 100 companies have used his services while over 300,000 people have been trained directly by him. Over the years 5 world champions from various sports, professional football clubs and the national rugby squad of Scotland have taken advantage of his techniques. 
 * 6) More recently Jack Black has been influenced by Dr Roger Callaghan and has integrated Though Field Therapy into the MindStore approach.
 * 7) MindStore is committed to providing easy to learn tools and techniques for improving performance for the individual, teams and companies. pure spam

The rest of the article is a list of products and looks very like advertising to me. Why not just say he conducts courses, etc? The Jack Black link doesn't work, but is hardly independent anyway.

This guy may well be notable, but any article needs to be neutral, with claims verifiable from independent sources. In its current form it was something between a hagiography and an advertising leaflet. Hope this helps, Jimfbleak 16:02, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

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Jack Black 2
Hi Alex. The article you refer to has been around for some time, and as a result has been extensively modified - I don't know if you read the talk page, but it's interesting to do so.

This article has benefited from critical editing, and differs from Jack Black in that potentially controversial statements are either referenced or ascribed to Jack himself - in other words, there are mainly verifiable statements.

I think that separating the factual biography from what he claims is a good idea, as is the criticism section, added during later editing, which provides balance. This is essential, in my view, to avoid the appearance of hagiography or advertising

There is a bibliography, which is fine. Giving details of other products, such as the courses and DVDs looks like spam; anyone motivated enough to do so will find them on his website, so that article has got it about right.

The media appearances obviously isn't essential, but supports notability. Hope this helps, Jimfbleak 15:30, 10 August 2007 (UTC)