User talk:Alison/Archive 66

Tough check-user case
Could you take a look at Sockpuppet investigations/Uayoa? It might involve someone you check briefly years ago. User:Wnwak was checked more recently and blocked by AGK, but he is apparently very busy with all the Arbcom stuff.... Someone not using his real name (talk) 00:54, 2 July 2013 (UTC) Is User:Cdtew related? He came to defend Uayoa at MILHIST. These edits look pretty weird, a sock of Uayoa editing Cdtew's comments... Someone not using his real name (talk) 01:30, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Sorry to butt in here again, but I was just working at SPI and noticed this. Most of the time, you need to provide diffs for a CU to run a check.  That is a huge amount of information you put up there, which is often problematic.  One of the users hasn't edited since Oct 2012. A bunch of those haven't edited since 2010 or 2011.  Most clerks won't bother with researching those.  For example, I won't block someone that hasn't edited in a year, no less 3 years.  It isn't "preventing disruption". CU can't connect something that is more than about 3 months old anyway. When you add all that info, it tends to get overlooked because it requires a ton of work to filter out the majority of information which isnt' actionable. Dennis Brown &#124; 2¢ &#124;  WER  01:02, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Dennis is right in that there's a lot of tl;dr right there. However, I've taken a look through some of the current diffs and there may be enough evidence to take it on. Working on it ... - Alis o n  ❤ 01:04, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm going to say that it's not likely, per behavior. They just have a similar name, is all. I don't think there's enough evidence to run a check - Alis o n  ❤ 01:33, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Glad someone is thinking of me! Unfortunately, Someone, just because I a) bugged you about getting a registered username and b) objected to your mass-prodding of articles which may have had potential to be rescued doesn't  make me a puppet master or sock. I use my real name on here, and even have my personal picture.  I resent the implications, as I've had a spotless record on here with nary a block or warning template.  As for the diffs you showed, it looks like someone inserted a comment before my signature by mistake. You guys can check me for socks all day - ill give you my exact whereabouts on any given day to compare against.  Cdtew  (talk) 01:53, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Ok, I take you word for it. But beware that one of Uayoa's socks edited your comments on MILHIST, to put his words in your mouth, basically. You might want to revert those; see the diffs above. Ctway and Cdtew have an unfortunate naming similarity, so I hope you'll forgive me for asking about a possible connection give that Uayoa / Uioya / Uoayo created accounts like Nhjutyr and Nuytrb, Wnwak and Wunwak etc. Someone not using his real name (talk) 02:20, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

A kitten for you!
For your help with check-user.

Someone not using his real name (talk) 05:35, 2 July 2013 (UTC) 
 * Thanks!! ^_^ - Alis o n  ❤ 05:36, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

FYI comments to you on Liz Kershaw talk
happy to talk here if talk page too sensitive re BLP 92.15.52.18 (talk) 03:41, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

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No humor allowed
Just here to say, I expected better from you.-- The Devil's Advocate tlk. cntrb. 03:32, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Sorry, that was my fat fingers on my cell. I immediately self-reverted. Don't even know what it says :( - Alis o n  ❤ 03:35, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Oh, ok. Sorry.-- The Devil's Advocate tlk.  cntrb. 04:00, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

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Possible rev/del
Hello Alison. I am wondering if this and these,  meet the criteria for Rev/Del. Thanks for your time in checking on these. MarnetteD | Talk 18:54, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi there. Yes, they do! I've gone ahead and removed them (one was suppressed as being potentially libelous). Thanks for letting me know! - Alis o n  ❤ 20:54, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for checking on them. They tried to trick us with the KF one by making the second edit. I had forgotten to ask about it at the time but the IM one today jogged my memory. I will try not to make that mistake again. Your efforts are appreciated. Have a great week. MarnetteD | Talk 21:03, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

Interested in an RfB nom?
 Signalizing would like to nominate you to become a bureaucrat. Please visit Requests for adminship to see what this process entails, and then [ contact Signalizing] to accept or decline the nomination. A page created for your nomination at Requests for bureaucratship/ . If you accept the nomination, you must formally state and sign your acceptance and answer the questions on that page. Once you have answered the questions, you may post your nomination for discussion, or request that your nominator do so.
 * I've been mulling this over for a bit, and given your tenure as an admin, solid decision-making (yes, I stalked a bit. :P) and the fact that there's clear trust in you by the community in your role as an Oversighter and CheckUser, I'd like to suggest taking it to the next level in an RfB. Please consider it, and let me know if you're interested, whether on wiki or privately via email if you'd prefer. As you can see by that unsightly red link, I haven't created the page yet, to give you the opportunity to accept or decline the nomination. Signalizing (talk) 18:54, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi there. Wow ... well!! :) While I really appreciate your support here and thank you for taking the time to go through things, I don't think I'm a suitable candidate for Bureaucrat. Firstly, I'm not very active here any more, as my RL takes up so much of my time now. My other hats here (CU/OS) take up enough time on their own :) Also, at almost ten years volunteering here now, I've built up a significant number of 'enemies' now, who would doubtlessly pile in to nuke any RfB I filed. It's an inevitable side-effect of being a functionary here. Finally, my participation at external sites would probably preclude my having a successful RfB -like, ever! Thank you so much, though, for your vote of confidence. I must be doing something right - Alis o n  ❤ 20:58, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I can only imagine how easy it is to step on toes as a functionary/sysop, and I see that experience as only an asset to the project. *shrugs* I've been with the project since 2006, albeit under a different username, and I can recall one RfB that I knew didn't have a snowball's chance in hell. He's a 'crat today. Face-smile.svg My point is that you're a great admin, and though I understand your reasons for declining, the offer for a nomination stands at any time, if it's ever something you wish to pursue. Also, I'm pretty sure I'm not alone in thinking that you should be one. Haha Signalizing (talk) 22:22, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
 * You're not alone: I'd love to see an RfB from Alison, too. ;) I agree with and repect your reasons for not running, Alison, but it's an understatement to say that you'd have my strong support! Acalamari 22:49, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Woot, I'm the poster-boy for failed RfBs! I've made it! EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 23:17, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm actually shocked she isn't a 'crat yet. D <font color="#ff6600">u <font color="#009900">s <font color="#0000ff">t <font color="#6600cc">i *Let's talk!* 06:21, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

Tara
Hello,,can you please take a look at what has been happening on the 'Aryan' webpage,,Administrators are deleting all material relating to the Gaelic word Tara as having a possible link to the word Aryan,,even though it has perfectly valid references.They are even deleting material from the talk page and from the undelete request page and they have locked the page,one of the Admin by the name of Paul B started abusing a user also with the word ,Domn't,. Something very wrong is going on here, can you please help sort this out.--Fomact (talk) 23:35, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi there. I see you're blocked already from editing. Anyways, I'm not seeing the connection between the Sanskrit word and the modern Irish/adopted English word Tara. I used to live 20 miles from the Hill of Tara, when I was a kid, and I researched the place myself back in my teens. Anyways, as an Irish speaker, I call the place and the word Cnoc Teamhrach / Teamhair na Rí (which sounds like "k-nuck tyowrock / tyowr na ree") - the Meeting Place of the Kings. The word "Tara" itself is a modern word and is a well-worn transliteration from the Irish, and even my Irish, though modern Irish, still deviates strongly from the word you're comparing with. In short, I don't think there's much of a link, other than the Irish language (Gaeilge) being rooted in the Indo-European language tree - A<font color= "#FF7C0A">l<font color= "#FFB550">is o n  ❤ 00:25, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

BLP?
While I can't fault you for refreshing your user page, I think it's a shame to remove your mini-essay on WP:BLP. I found your thoughts on the matter very wise, and I wish they were still there for every Wikipedian to ponder. Joefromrandb (talk) 16:49, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

Criticism of NTSB by ALPA
Please come to Talk:Asiana_Airlines_Flight_214 if you oppose removing this controversy from the crash article. 75.208.16.211 (talk) 22:04, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

Eliad Cohen AFD
May I inquire the particular policy reason as to why oversight was enacted on one of the !voters? It seems odd for an AFD.— Ryulong (<font color="Gold">琉竜 ) 20:55, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
 * The name of the account is quite unusual, and is the RL surname of a well-known editor here. The account was created by to attempt to smear someone else -  A<font color= "#FF7C0A">l<font color= "#FFB550">is o n  ❤ 21:34, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
 * See here - A<font color= "#FF7C0A">l<font color= "#FFB550">is o n  ❤ 21:36, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
 * So shouldn't the whole !vote be struck from the record as it's a banned user's sockpuppet?— Ryulong (<font color="Gold">琉竜 ) 05:11, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I guess. I was just doing my CU/OS job - up to you to do the rest - A<font color= "#FF7C0A">l<font color= "#FFB550">is o n  ❤ 05:56, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

Second opinion sought
Hi, Alison. I wonder if you could give a second opinion on whether user:Previously_ScienceApologist has socked recently as, for example, user:Mj12hoaxwriter or user:Eliminatesoapboxing, as stated here. Some relevant threads are here,here, and here. Cardamon (talk) 07:12, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Given the evidence, I took a peek. All three of these are ✅ - A<font color= "#FF7C0A">l<font color= "#FFB550">is o n  ❤ 01:37, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Three? Do you mean that there is a third sock of user:Previously_ScienceApologist besides user:Mj12hoaxwriter and user:Eliminatesoapboxing? Or just that user:Previously_ScienceApologist, user:Mj12hoaxwriter, and user:Eliminatesoapboxing are the same? Cardamon (talk) 03:42, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
 * There is no third sock that I can see. I'm referring to the total count - A<font color= "#FF7C0A">l<font color= "#FFB550">is o n  ❤ 03:43, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Okay, thanks. Cardamon (talk) 05:12, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

BingNorton, ExclusiveAgent, et al...
Noticed you blocked ExclusiveAgent for socking. Thought you might find his previous SPI interesting, if you hadn't run across it already. Arbor8 (talk) 17:07, 31 July 2013 (UTC)