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Speedy deletion nomination of Terra Scaena Soap Company
A tag has been placed on Terra Scaena Soap Company requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about an organization or company, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for organizations and companies. You may also wish to consider using a Wizard to help you create articles - see the Article Wizard.

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Speedy deletion nomination of Terra Scaena Soap Company
A tag has been placed on Terra Scaena Soap Company, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an encyclopedia article. Please read the guidelines on spam as well as FAQ/Business for more information. You may also wish to consider using a Wizard to help you create articles - see the Article Wizard.

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Speedy deletion nomination of Terra Scaena Soap Company
A tag has been placed on Terra Scaena Soap Company requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about an organization or company, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for organizations and companies. You may also wish to consider using a Wizard to help you create articles - see the Article Wizard.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding  to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the page does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that they userfy the page or have a copy emailed to you. Simon-in-sagamihara (talk) 03:23, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
 * See WP:CITE for proper sources. Listing the main URL is not a source. Clubmarx (talk) 03:55, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

from the article talk p.
Wikipedia has no such page listed to the natural products movement. This page is a starting ground for an important confluence of intelligent discussion of natural versus chemical in our marketplace. We need to create a common ground to educate the masses to what is in their products which pollute their bodies and how they can change this. Diseases such as cancer and celieac diesease are possibly responsible from the chemical junk which is in our foods, bath products and every item we come in contact with. What this article needs is additional company reviews... clifbar and vermont brownie company are two of which are mentioned in the article, but just need reviewing. this article should stay to start that groundwork.

Thank you for your contribution. Your comments confuse me as to what the subject of this article is -- the soap company? The natural products movement? Other companies? If it is the first, please read WP:Notability. If it's the second, pleaes read WP:Soapbox. If it's the third, the article should be split up. If you have any other questions, please leave your comment here. Regards Simon-in-sagamihara (talk) 03:39, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

I just realised that this article has already been deleted once today as spam. Since the old article is no longer available, could you quickly explain here what you've changed in this version to make it less promotional? Simon-in-sagamihara (talk) 03:44, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

The concept of the article was to start a focus on the natural product movement with focuses on various companies which have pledged to use only natural products as people seem to not understand the term natural and how it applies to various produts. Focusing on Terra Scaena Soap Company was the first company bio attirbuted to this movement. Other companies like ClifBar and Vermont Brownie Company would follow as the page is edited and added to. The first article was deleted before I had a chance to state "hangon"... If the article is to be split - how would you recommend spliting the bios versus the movement? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Allen-terrascaena (talk • contribs) 15:09, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Status and Advice
There is no real possibility of writing an article about the company unless you have references providing substantial coverage from  3rd party independent published reliable sources, print or online (but not blogs or press releases, or material derived from press releases). If you want to write an article on the movement, you will have to show that there is a movement, not just some companies claiming the products are more genuinely natural than the bulk of those on the market. Again, you will need sources.  DGG ( talk ) 00:52, 28 March 2010 (UTC)