User talk:Allens/Archives/2012/May

Re: Counties of Croatia
Hi! Thanks for volunteering, I'm looking forward to working with you again. The Counties of Croatia is meant as a list hence such short prose. I took a quick look at the border disputes article and spotted a couple of issues which need updating, largely due to last general elections results - neither Kosor nor Pahor are prime ministers right now.--Tomobe03 (talk) 22:05, 2 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Ditto! I understand it's meant as a list - good thought on having a section on historical changes; I was thinking about that myself. Thanks for taking a look at the border disputes article! I should be able to work on both of them this weekend, starting on Friday. Allens (talk &#124; contribs) 16:03, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

RE: May 2012
Wow! Did you even look at the change (and the link supporting it) before issuing the warning? Please take time to look again. Info in article is outdated (5 years old!), I actually updated it... --Ele boz (talk) 14:08, 3 May 2012 (UTC)


 * I have no idea how I managed to do that. I think I hit the wrong button. Sorry! Allens (talk &#124; contribs) 16:02, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
 * No problem! --Ele boz (talk) 16:50, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

Gloucester County College in progress
Hi Allen. I thought I'd have a go at this today. Just to warn you that I've sent a redirect you created for it to WP:RFD, because it looks as if it could be the name of a college. I'll link to the list of colleges by a less name-like pipe instead. Hope that's OK. Cheers, Simon. --Stfg (talk) 10:51, 4 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks for working on it! Good point on the name - I hadn't thought about that. Allens (talk &#124; contribs) 11:48, 4 May 2012 (UTC)


 * I think I'm done now, E&OE. I hope it's not too bad. I'll keep it watchlisted for a while. Good luck with GAN. --Stfg (talk) 10:41, 5 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Looks good; thanks! I think the next stage is (another) peer review, then the GAN. Allens (talk &#124; contribs) 14:31, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

Transitional fossil
Hi Allen. Are you familiar with the Transitional fossil article? I copy edited it a while back and now its near the end of its GAN review, held up for need of some phylogenetics references. Isn't that your field? I was wondering whether there was anything you could tell them. Cheers, Simon. --Stfg (talk) 19:09, 5 May 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm not particularly familiar with the article, although I am with the concept. I'll see about helping out with it - and, yes, phylogenetics is my field (or, rather, one of them). Allens (talk &#124; contribs) 21:31, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

Map of counties
Hi! Thanks for copyediting the Counties of Croatia article, your contribution is very valuable. I saw you reordered counties map caption alphabetically to allow easier finding of the counties on the map, but I am concerned that the change, while allowing finding a county name in the caption far more easily, makes identification of associated colours on the map very hard simply because the colours are similar. The original scheme placed all blues/reds/yellows in an sequence to allow easier identification of key colour and map colours much like water depth colour key allows use of a bathymetric chart. I am aware that's not a very fortunate solution, but I think it solves one problem (colour identification) while leaving unresolved alphabetization as a comparably less problematic issue.

What do you think, which solution of the two would be better? I tried placing identification on the map itself, but it is simply too small to allow use of names in the map, and 21 colours that are that different are not really an option - besides the three colour "types" used are also meant to designate NUTS regions. I have also tried to make a clickable image map, where hovering mouse pointer provides name of each of the counties - in my sandbox. Do you think that would be an improvement over present situation?--Tomobe03 (talk) 13:12, 7 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Quite welcome... I like the clickable map - good work! (How'd you do it, BTW?) I'm thinking that the current alphabetical ordering of colors together with the clickable map would be the best of both worlds - the clickable map allows going from the map to the county far easier, while the alphabetized ordering of colors helps in going from the county to the map location. What do you think? Allens (talk &#124; contribs) 17:24, 7 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Yes, that seems to be a good option. There's an image map editor available and Help:Imagemap redirect to more details on the topic.--Tomobe03 (talk) 19:58, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

Tay–Sachs disease
Hi Allens, are you still working on the above article? Have you finished your copy-edit or have you abandoned it? If the latter, or if you don't intend to continue, I'll continue when I've finished the article I'm currently working on. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 04:50, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm currently waiting on clarifications from the requestor. (If you see anything obvious that I've missed, feel free to correct it, though!) I should probably label it as "on hold" and go to working on another article - probably one of the Croatia ones; Tomobe03 and I work well together. Thanks for the reminder! Allens (talk &#124; contribs) 11:18, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
 * No worries; it's been there for a while and I was wondering what was going on with the article. Thanks for clarifying. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 00:41, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Hey just for the record, I just did a complete (?) copyedit/tweak of this article a few weeks (?) ago. If I fumbled the ball on that, I sincerely apologize. If you would like me to take another look or another crack at it, just leave me a note on my Talk Page. Best regards:Cliff (a/k/a &#34;Uploadvirus&#34;) (talk) 12:55, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Genetic erosion article copyedit
Hello Allens, nice to meet you. I'm responding to your comment you left on my Talk Page regarding my recent copyedit of the Genetic erosion article.

First, thanks for re-checking my stuff. As you may soon learn, the most frequent result of my copy edits are the generation of an urgent need for a further copyedit :-O I do the best I can, though (lol). With regard to Tag Removal ... I never remove tags. Period. I know I'm supposed to, but too often I screw things up, so I leave it for a better copyeditor to find. Forgive me?

Tell you what, I will propose a compromise - I'll bust my hump working EXTRA hard on the Drive to make up for my slacking on Tag Removal. If you think the job I have done on a given article is sufficient to justify the removal of the tag, go ahead and remove it after you recheck my work. Sorry you have to babysit me!

Lastly, that article wasn't very good at all - in fact it stunk, in my opinion. The Talk Page had some discussion about merging it with another article, an action I would support. I just picked it because it was on the Backlog list.

Thanks again, and best regards: Cliff (a/k/a &#34;Uploadvirus&#34;) (talk) 16:52, 3 May 2012 (UTC)


 * I understand; I wouldn't say you're bad at it - you do a good job of simplifying material so that a wider audience can read it - but I understand that you feel otherwise. I'll take a look at your other copyedited articles, since you ask. In terms of that particular article, I can see merging it. What it most needs, in my opinion as a geneticist, is a discussion (with references, of course!) of the immune system problem with small, inbred populations - they're all so close to one another, any disease that one is susceptible to, the rest are also. I keep meaning to look up the needed references on this... Allens (talk &#124; contribs) 19:36, 3 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Regarding Carbohydrate chemistry - I'm afraid I had to remove a lot of what you did, not because of you, but because it turned out to be a copyright violation. (I'm a bit surprised you didn't spot the first part, namely the inter-wiki copying; the "[edit]" and "[#]" marks are a giveaway. Once I spotted that, I checked the history, and saw another large addition of text, which turned out to be a copypaste from a webpage given as the only reference.) It's currently waiting on revision deletion. Allens (talk &#124; contribs) 12:45, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the kind words, and kudos to you for spotting the copyright violations - interestingly enough, I have myself recently run two examples of doctors "plagiarizing" (DIRECT copy and paste!) things I've written here for Wikipedia in major peer-reviewed journals without a cite, attribution, etc. Sorry about missing the CV "hints" - I don't know much about coding, as I intimated earlier somewhere, and obviously missed those clues, so thanks for the education - will try to pay attention now that I know :-)  Lastly, thanks for any checking of my stuff that you do, I welcome it - don't want editors to think I'm negatively influencing their articles with my "readability tweaking", just hate to "create more work" for folks. Best regards:Cliff (a/k/a &#34;Uploadvirus&#34;) (talk) 17:43, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

About an edit in list of beatle song
I'm a Thai Wikipedia user and noticed a message about 61.90.23.206 IP User's edit at List of The Beatles songs on 6 May 2012 but I'm not that user. My latest edit was adding Da Capo III link at Da Capo (visual novel) without logging in.

Why I recieved that message?

P.S. Sorry if I use incorrect or impolite languages.

--TeruM (talk) 12:16, 23 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Well, that IP address is evidently shared between people by your ISP - basically, whoever happens to dial in. You should always log into your account when editing, to avoid receiving messages not meant for you. 12:58, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

GOCE requests on hold
Hi Allen. I noticed your on-hold of the request for c/e of Counties of Croatia, where you said "Waiting for comments from featured list discussion to see what further revisions are needed". I think that once you've done the initial copy edit for a request, it's probably best to declare it "done" on the requests page and let me archive it. I usually keep articles copyedited for GA and FA on my watchlist until they get there too, in case any further help is wanted, but removing them from the requests page might help to avoid confusion, unless you specifically want another editor to get involved too. Best, Simon. --Stfg (talk) 09:22, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
 * OK, will do. Allens (talk &#124; contribs) 16:23, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks. How's Tay-Sachs? --Stfg (talk) 17:06, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
 * In the middle of its GA review. I'm finding I don't entirely agree with the medical article MOS, specifically on where the "Epidemiology" section should be placed, but I think I'll bring that up on the appropriate more-general talk pages (as opposed to Talk:Tay-Sachs disease). Allens (talk &#124; contribs) 17:25, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

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London Borough of Brent
You might like to visit Talk:London Borough of Brent and the IP's talk page to mitigate the offence caused to an editor that we'd probably prefer to encourage. NebY (talk) 19:11, 29 May 2012 (UTC)


 * I've done so, and apologized. Allens (talk &#124; contribs) 19:40, 29 May 2012 (UTC)


 * And you've done it in a more collaborative manner than my own (I plead RL) - thanks! NebY (talk) 07:21, 30 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Quite welcome (I understand re RL!). Allens (talk &#124; contribs) 10:05, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Ecology section in Geography of Croatia
Hi! I recently added section "Ecology" to the Geography of Croatia article following a GA review request, as well as a paragraph (currently the last one) in the "Biodiversity" section of the same article. Could you please take a look at those to see if there is some nonsense in there requiring clarification and perform any copyedits that may be needed there? Thanks!--Tomobe03 (talk) 18:17, 31 May 2012 (UTC)


 * No problem - I was already planning on doing so after you were finished :-} Allens (talk &#124; contribs) 19:03, 31 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks! Done again, I think. The septic system assumption is correct, but I was unsure how exactly to spell that out since the source says "44% have sewerage system connections" and "public sewerage systems and septic tank systems are in use".--Tomobe03 (talk) 22:23, 31 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Quite welcome. I've tried to state what the source says re septic tank systems. Allens (talk &#124; contribs) 22:35, 31 May 2012 (UTC)