User talk:AllyUnion/Archive7

Sandbot
Hi. I appreciate the thought, but could you run Sandbot less often on the Tutorial sandboxes? They aren't edited as frequently as Sandbox, and I think it's useful for newbies to see other people's experiments. It helps them see what works, and it also makes them more comfortable experimenting if there's already stuff there. I think cleaning once every week or two would be sufficient. Isomorphic 18:22, 25 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Done. Will be running every Monday, each week, around 6:48 AM Pacific Standard Time (-8 hours from UTC). -- AllyUnion (talk) 18:41, 25 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Happy editing, Isomorphic 19:53, 25 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Taxobot
Thanks for the offer to assist with making a bot. As I said in my request, I want it to do three things. I realize, though, that I'll make it do one, run it and fix the articles that version can fix, then I'll reconfigure it to find each of the other two problems. And I may find more things for it, but once I have the basics of building and using a bot, I'll be able to adapt. - UtherSRG 19:55, Feb 25, 2005 (UTC)

Text "salvaged" from Internet terrorism
As you cast a vote on the VfD for Internet terrorism I thought you should be alerted to a current RfC about the fate of the content taking place at Talk:Cyber-terrorism. -- Antaeus Feldspar 20:06, 26 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Safavids
When you protected Safavids you mistyped the name of the protection template. You might like to fix that. -- John Fader 22:28, 26 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Correct! --Osmanoglou 22:34, 26 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Mikula
The arbcom is all admins, and can view the page already. And if they want it undeleted, they can pass a standing order. What you did was wholly unnecessary, and I ask you to please undo it. Snowspinner 15:01, Feb 27, 2005 (UTC)
 * I hadn't seen Anthony's request for its undeletion when I said the above. Obviously Anthony should have access to the contents for this if he wants it. Thanks for catching this. Snowspinner 15:15, Feb 27, 2005 (UTC)

bot is great but...
Just one more feature :-) Would it be possible that the bot could put in an edit coment which contains as many as possible of the VFD titles that have been added.  Thus, for this edit the title would be VFD hourly update: Corby Ziesman / Nutrinopets.  Obviously sometimes the list could be too long for the edit comment, but it will still be useful.  You might then say VFD hourly update (many): Corby Ziesman / Nutrinopets / Blah /BlahBlah / (and others).   I'd code it myself, but I'm a Python luddite :-) Mozzerati 21:53, 2005 Feb 27 (UTC)
 * It's a goddamn hack. Hell, do you know I actually tell Perl to do a find and replace for me?  I know that Python could do it for me by compiling the damn regexs, but it's the same thing as writing it into a log.  What you're asking me to do is what, write the old section into a log, write the new parsed section into a log, call a UNIX diff, then parse the input to get rid of Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Log/, then insert it into the comment.  I don't know what the limit is for the comment text, so I don't know the cut off point.  I'd be happy to add your feature if you could write it in either pseudocode, Perl or C++, and under the assumption that you have access to the new section and the old section.  Oh, also, you'll need to consider what to do when it attempts to process the addition of a new day and removal of the old day.
 * At the current moment, it does this: Gets sections 1-6. If the hour is between 00:00 UTC and 01:00 UTC, then write sections 2-5, get the previous day's section, translate it, get today's section, translate it, and post sections 2-5 plus previous day's section translation, and today's section translation.  If the hour is not between 00:00 UTC and 01:00 UTC, then get sections 1-6, replace section 7 with today's section translation.  Once completed, post new page to VFD.  Anything different from the previous page causes the page to change. -- AllyUnion (talk) 22:11, 27 Feb 2005 (UTC)

This is not pseudocode!

diff -u /tmp/b /tmp/a | perl -ne 'm:^\+\* \[\[[^/]*/([a-z0-9. ]{2,10}):i && print "$1 / ";' |  head -c 40

I have tested it on two versions cut and paste from the edit window. If you want to do it all in perl then the Diff module should help I can try that later. The 40 is just a demonstration.. in real life you would append it all to a variable after the initial comment and then truncate that variable to the maximum comment length. Mozzerati 22:52, 2005 Feb 27 (UTC)

I found this command to be more useful: diff -u ~/tmp/diff-vfd.log ~/tmp/vfd.log | grep ^+ | grep '* \[\[' | perl -pi -e 's/\*.\[\[Wikipedia:Votes.for.deletion\// /g' | perl -pi -e 's/\]\]//g' -- AllyUnion (talk) 10:33, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Re:Chinese fan dance
nope. don't know of such an article. we dont seem to even have an article on Chinese dance (in general, there's lion dance...).

i responded on my talk page regarding the bot. --Jiang 13:12, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)

on this day bot
I looked at a sample of pages, and they all seemed to work pretty well. Good job. If I've missed any then someone'll notice it. Dunc|&#9786; 09:26, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Asteroid
Why have you suggested merging the French article into our article when the French article consists of large blocks of text translated from ours to begin with? I am not sure I see any new or useful content. Rmhermen 13:31, Mar 3, 2005 (UTC)
 * Please see discussion at Talk:Asteroid. Rmhermen 15:26, Mar 3, 2005 (UTC)

Linpedia.org
The Linpedia.org project has yet to be indexed by Google, this is why a google search on Linpedia brought up India as a suggestion.--Joel M. 21:34, Mar 3, 2005 (UTC)
 * What Wikipedia is not. -- AllyUnion (talk) 22:21, 3 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Meta-Template:Message box
Here's a meta-template for you to gripe about: Template:Message box. And oh, "If -all- that a template is used for is to "subst:", then I don't think the template should exist", then you should go ahead and list Template:vt, Template:vb, Template:vfd top, Template:vfd bottom, and Template:vfd for deletion. After all, all they are used for is the subst: message and by your logic, they should not exist. -- AllyUnion (talk) 07:14, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)


 * You're right on all counts. If only there were enough hours in the day. -- Netoholic @ 07:46, 2005 Mar 4 (UTC)

The VfD bot
Hi there! I believe you're the one maintaining the VfD bot? I have a request for you... could you please add a line or two of code to the bot so that the link to is automatically added to the top of each new VfD page? (and maybe, removed from previous ones). I've been doing this manually, but the Policy Consensus is relevant to many VfD discussions. Thanks for your time! Radiant! 09:36, Mar 4, 2005 (UTC)
 * Posted the request on BotTalk. I think it would be best to keep the article on top of the next month, then leave or remove it depending on whether people find it useful. So far the policy discussions have been constructive, so there could feasibly be more later on. Radiant! 11:42, Mar 4, 2005 (UTC)

Sanity check, please
You appear to be a knowledgeable bot-person :-) Could you take a look at my semi-rant here and tell me whether the process I describe could easily be done by a bot? Thanx in advance. --Phil | Talk 10:58, Mar 4, 2005 (UTC)

Georgina Russell
Hi. You closed this article's vfd as "delete" earlier today, but don't seem to have actually deleted it. (And, not that it's my business to second-guess you, but with nine deletes, four merges (including EggplantWizard's mislabelled delete), five keeps, a troll, and the nominator's ambiguous, I'd have thought a merge more appropriate.) &mdash;Korath (Talk) 11:00, Mar 4, 2005 (UTC)

The Hollywood Walk of Fame Barnstar
I just wanted to give you a friendly heads-up: there is a discussion starting about your Hollywood Walk of Fame Barnstar over at Barnstar and award proposals. Some (including myself) feel that its purpose is too vaguely defined, and are considering broadening its scope: in a second proposal to create a series of "Category barnstars", we want to use it as our "Society" barnstar. If you have some time, we would love to hear your feelings about these ideas. Hope to see you there! – ClockworkSoul 18:39, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Sandbot and moved pages
What does Sandbot do if one of the pages it wants to clean has been moved? Does it follow the redirect and edit the new target page, or does it edit the redirect page itself, or does it give up and report an error? Sandbox was moved to Creep (Radiohead) today, and I wondered what Sandbot would do I think that reporting an error would be best. &mdash;AlanBarrett 07:43, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * It doesn't care. It would forcibly replace the sandbox heading anyway.  Although dealing with the history is something else. -- AllyUnion (talk) 08:04, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * What history and copyright problems do we need to worry about with the Sandbox? Just because the article has a title called Creep (Radiohead) doesn't mean that it is.  It's just the Sandbox that has been moved to an inappropriate title.  And why the nastiness?  RickK 08:17, Mar 5, 2005 (UTC)

VFD Bot
VFD Bot and Sandbot are now marked as bots on the English Wikipedia. If you ever need these flags removed, just ask at requests for permissions. Angela. 11:51, Mar 5, 2005 (UTC)
 * Thank you Angela. -- AllyUnion (talk) 12:42, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Vfd relistings
What are your intentions with regard to the relistings of Votes for deletion/Neo-catastrophism, Votes for deletion/Newly industrializing economy, and Votes for deletion/Il Tempo Gigante? Normally I'd think they'd just be handled as shorthand for closing as no consensus followed by an immediate re-vfd, but they're still on the February 18 page, so I'm confused. (I'm easily confused these days, alas.) &mdash;Korath (Talk) 12:46, Mar 5, 2005 (UTC)

Star Trek featured article
I'm puzzled as to why you would think the Star Trek article no longer qualifies as a featured article. Except for some trims here and there and some expansion to the "future of the franchise" section that was inevitable given the Enterprise situation, I haven't seen the article undergo any substantial changes since I began my involvement with Wikipedia last fall. What has happened to make you decide it no longer qualifies? If there's an issue involving content, format, etc. I think we (as in the regular editors of the article) should work to resolve these problems before going this route. I just went through a very unpleasant experience (which nearly soured me on Wikipedia altogether) with the fine-tooth-combing and rejection of James Bond as a feature article, so I know these things are hard as hell to get. If you'd rather not discuss in an open forum, feel free to use the "E-mail this user" feature and contact me directly that way. Cheers. 23skidoo 15:49, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC)


 * Let us review the points of the featured article candidates list.
 * Be comprehensive, factually accurate, stable, and well-written
 * Comprehensive? No.  Missing topics like Star Trek versus Star Wars, complaints about Star Trek, complaints about the franchise after Gene's death, writers inconsistancies, etc.
 * Accurate? For the most part, yes.
 * Stable? No, not completely
 * Well-written, not completely
 * Be uncontroversial
 * Argument over Voyager POV.
 * Images
 * We have them, but I would like to restore an image per section, at least per series.
 * Headings
 * Need reorganization, the new material doesn't necessary fit into everything.
 * References
 * We are missing book references that could be used to back the article. Gene Roddenberry's biography, information from the cast, writers, stuff that has been written in books, newspapers.
 * -- AllyUnion (talk) 03:11, 6 Mar 2005 (UTC)

VfD high schools
Hi there! Several high schools have been listed on VfD with uncertain consensus. However, G/Rider has sent a list of these to a number of people, resulting in a large number of last-minute keep votes. (For example, see User_talk:SimonP. Is this a normal way of voting? Radiant! 23:08, Mar 5, 2005 (UTC)