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Public holidays in Pakistan
Please refrain from changing original holidays to your fabricated ones. National Holidays need to be respected and changing the whole article just to please one's ego is not an ethical thing. Please consider this request. Fahadeng (talk • contribs) 13:22, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

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Orangi Town
Dear AlphaGamma1991, I have replied to your comments at the Orangi Town talk page. I look forward to hearing from you over there. Best wishes, AnupamTalk 16:00, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Transworld Associates
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Karachi
Some friendly advice:
 * 1) It is inappropriate to have the same content twice in one article.  You put the same series of sentences twice in the Karachi article.  So I removed one of them.  You put it back.  I can't imagine why.  Especially as you don't provide any edit summaries with your edits.  Once per article is enough for any paragraph.
 * 2) I placed a  tag next to your statement that "The original population of Karachi was..." because "original" is too vague.  Instead of simply removing the tag, which obviously is an inappropriate and inadequate response to a request for clarification, I would recommend that you rewrite the sentence to specify what specific decade you are referring to.
 * 3) You have a habit of undoing grammatical fixes that are utterly benign and uncontroversial, such as my fix of "was Balochis" to "consisted of Balochis".  I don't know if you are doing this out of carelessness or simply a weak grasp of proper English, but I urge you to exercise more caution with your reversions.
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March 2010
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 * Thanks for friendly advice. I will add edit summaries but it takes time to change habits. In William III of England, I added the link from non-trinitarians to non-trinitarians as it it is better link. I was watching PBS show on British history last night. Thanks again. AlphaGamma1991 (talk) 17:48, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Talkback SpikeToronto
—  Spike Toronto  18:32, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

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Khyber Pakhtunkhwa
The name of North-West Frontier Province was changed to Khyber Pakhtunkhwa. I made the move but some mistake occurred and talk did not move. Can you please check and fix it. Thanks. AlphaGamma1991 (talk) 21:43, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes the move happened with an error with that article moved to the talk page, and Favonian reverting the move. As suggested by Favonian please talk about the move using the WP:RM as this might be controversial, and consensus should be proved first. You will now need to ask an admin to do the move as there is too much history behind the redirect now. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:42, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
 * A similar (though not identical) attempt was made by another editor, so I have now opened a "formal" discussion at Talk:North-West Frontier Province which I invite you to contribute to. Favonian (talk) 09:24, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

jinnah
It was already in the infobox, I just let it be seen. I assumed it was correct. Therequiembellishere (talk) 21:31, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

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Category deletion
Hi there, I am trying to bring order to the articles, templates and categories covering the system of government in Pakistan. The main article for this is now at Administrative units of Pakistan, where I have explained why that term is preferable. Different editors had different preferances, so that article has been moved back and forth between eight separate titles, but in the end I felt that the only correct term is the one the Pakistani government itself uses in official statistics. For example, the eight main articles on the administrative units of Pakistan were split between Category:Provinces and federally administered areas of Pakistan, Category:Provinces of Pakistan and Category:Subdivisions of Pakistan instead of all eight being in a single category. In certain cases, the particular category has had to be renamed because the administrative unit has been renamed. In each case all of the articles in those categories have now been recategorised:
 * Category:Towns in Sindh had a single article which is now iin Category:Cities, towns and villages in Sindh
 * Category:Towns in Pakistan had articles that really belonged in Category:Tehsils of Pakistan
 * Category:Districts of Northern Areas, Pakistan and Category:Tehsils of Northern Areas (Pakistan) both referred to the Northern Areas of Pakistan, which were renamed recently as Gilgit-Baltistan. There are still a few of these categories which need new names.
 * Category:Buildings of Pakistani government and Category:Government buildings in Pakistan cover the same area and there seems little point in having duplicate categories, so I moved the single article in Category:Buildings of Pakistani government to Category:Government buildings in Pakistan because of the better grammar.
 * Category:Indian Paramilitary Forces is redundant to Category:Paramilitary forces of India which is a better title.
 * Category:Constitutions of Pakistan was created to hold a single article, which could have easily gone under Category:Constitution of Pakistan
 * Category:Talukas of Pakistan refers to a variant name for a unit of local government, also covered by Category:Local government in Pakistan
 * Category:Provinces and federally administered areas of Pakistan, Category:Provinces of Pakistan, Category:Subdivisions of Pakistan, Category:Categories by province and territory of Pakistan, Category:History of subdivisions of Pakistan, Category:Former subdivisions of Pakistan, Category:Historic Regions of Pakistan, and Category:Historical regions of Pakistan all refer to existing or former administrative units of Pakistan and are now redundant to appropriately named categories. Green Giant (talk) 01:10, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

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Kutchi Langage Wikipedia
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Request for Help, please
Greetings AlphaGamma1991,

Nice to meet you.

Could you kindly help me translate this article into the unique and wonderful Kutchi language? please.

Content ''The "True Jesus Church" is an independent church that was established in Beijing, China in 1917. Today, there are approximately 2.5 million members in fifty two countries and six continents. The church belongs to the Pentecostal group of Christianity that emerged during the early twentieth century. Since 1932, the church was established in India. They aim to preach the gospel to all nations before the Second Coming of Jesus. The ten main beliefs of the church are'':
 * 1) Holy Spirit
 * 2) Baptism
 * 3) Feet Washing
 * 4) Holy Communion
 * 5) Sabbath Day
 * 6) Jesus Christ
 * 7) The Bible
 * 8) Salvation
 * 9) The church
 * 10) Final Judgement

Your help would be very Gratefully Appreciated, thankyou very much. --Jose77 (talk) 21:55, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

April 2010
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Religion in UK
Hi, Baitul Futuh is the largest mosque in Western Europe according to the reference, not the largest Ahmadi mosque in Western Europe. Thank You. Peaceworld111 (talk) 12:44, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Please discuss before making changes. Stop adding your own views about Ahmadiyya Peaceworld111 (talk) 14:19, 11 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Moved from Peaceworld111

In the Baitul Futuh page it clearly states it is Ahmadiyya mosque. The Ahmadiyya mosques are not attended by "mainstream Muslims" (quoted from Ahmadiyya page). On 22 March 2010 in Islam in the United Kingdom it stated that Baitul Futuh Mosque of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community in London.Voted top 50 buildings in the world by Spectator magazine and it still does. In Religion in the United Kingdom, the version on 8 April 2010 also had the same information but you changed it with edit  and dropping reference to of the “Ahmadiyya Muslim Community”, London.. How did this coversion from Ahmadiyya mosque to "mainstream Muslim" took place ? The London Central Mosque more representative of "mainstream Muslim". I hope you are also not stating that there 200 million Ahmadiyya as stated in the official website recently. AlphaGamma1991 (talk) 14:30, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Firstly, keep to the argument. I removed reference to 'Ahmadiyya' because you mentioned that it is not 'representative', only because you mentioned it. If Ahmadiyya mosques are not attended by mainstream muslims, not because ahmadis do not want them to come, but rather mainstream muslims do not want to come. What about shia, deobandi, brelwi - usually there is a similar divinde there. Moreover, often you see divide over by coountry of origin too. Arabs may have their own mosques, pakistanis, their own. In this sense no mosque would be representative. An image just gives a picture of a mosque, it doesn't tell us to whom it belongs and keeping in mind the fact that mosques are not shaped by who owns it, it doesn't matter which mosque image is put on. But why baitul futuh? Because it has much more of a character and is much more unique than london central mosque. Moreover, the image itself is of a better quality. Reference to '200m' is not part of the discussion here. Thank You. Peaceworld111 (talk) 14:42, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Baitul Futuh is not a "mainstream Muslims" mosque and that is the crux of the issue. The Shia, Deobandi, Barelwi are considered part of "mainstream Muslims" as does by the constitution of Pakistan. Like you said and I quote Firstly, keep to the argument. The image is not the issue either and rest is just detail. AlphaGamma1991 (talk) 14:51, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
 * This is an opinion of many mainstream muslims. Also there are other muslim sects, like shia who think that sunni are not true muslims and the list goes on... Should Wiki discrimnate against Ahmadis and adopt the opinion? Peaceworld111 (talk) 14:54, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Sunni and Shia sects are "mainstream Muslims" as per 'Ahmadiyya' page and by the constitution of Pakistan. You are adding info about Ahmadiyya statistic in most "Islam in ..." pages and I don't see Sunni, Shia, Deobandi, Barelwi doing that. You are aslo trying to adding links to Ahmadiyya websites in Islam related pages and I don't see Sunni, Shia, Deobandi, Barelwi doing that. You wrote and I quote Should Wiki discrimnate against Ahmadis nobody is raising that issue. It is only that you should state the facts. If it is Ahmadiyya mosque then say it. If it is a link to Ahmadiyya website then state it. You dropped caption of Ahmadiyya mosque. Why all this deception ? AlphaGamma1991 (talk) 15:09, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I explained before the reason behind dropping the caption concerning Ahmadiyya, I can certainly put it back on, I do not mind.
 * Secondly, what is wrong with adding information in Islam in... about Ahmadiyya? There are details about Sunni and Shia... aren't they in every Islam in... articles? After all Wiki is an Encyclopedia!
 * Does it matter if Pakistani constitution says that Ahmadiyya are separate or not. Let Pakistan keep its opinion to itself. Wiki doesn't follow Pakistani rules and regulations or for that matter muslim's regulations.
 * Links are added where there are articles related to it, as is the case with every other article!
 * If removing an 'Ahmadiyya' mosque is not online discrimination, if removing details related to Ahmadiyya on Islam in... articles is not online discrimination, if labelling Ahmadiyya as non-muslim in Islam in Pakistan or Religion in Pakistan is not online discrimination then what is?
 * You edited Baitul Futuh to Baitul Futuh Mosque. Largest Ahmedi mosque in Western Europe which is completely incorrect according to reference. I do not mind stating Baitul Futuh Mosque of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community.Largest mosque in Western Europe This is correct, the only problem is that you will not find it representative. ThankYou Peaceworld111 (talk) 16:25, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

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Sindhi Wikipedia
Hello,

As a Sindhi speaker, would it be possible for you to join the sindhi wikipedia? It has very few members and little has been translated. Could you please help?

Thanks. --92.11.24.4 (talk) 12:14, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

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