User talk:Alpha 4615/Archive 1

Reply:Darn you!
Thanks. You're doing good too. :) C h a m a l  talk work 12:20, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep editing :) Once you get some experience and a few hundred edits, you can get rollback here. C h a m a l  talk work 12:26, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Your post
Hi there! With regard to your post at Administrator intervention against vandalism. You posted in the right section, and in good faith, but as a rule, it's not a problem that they keep removing warnings. We have the ability to check the page's history, and issue blocks as appropriate. It's generally accepted that if they remove the warnings, it's simply proof that they've read and understood them. Because you've got the right idea, though, please accept this, from one user to another:

Alleged Spam
I received your note claiming that I was "spamming" Wikipedia. I reviewed the spam rules and do not understand why you would say such a thing.

My website offers information on over 2400 musicians. The links I placed were to specific free information about each of them.

I see that Wikipedia permits IMDB, All Music Group and other commerical websites to post on as many pages as they like.

Wikipedia also uses a lot of information from my site. The least Wikipedia can do is permit links back to the source information.

MasterRecs (talk) 19:48, 17 October 2008 (UTC)


 * This is an issue with a neutral point of view and neutrality in general. You represent your company and are making direct links to each musician's profile on your page. It's feel a little bit like a conflict of interest to me. If an article uses information from your page, it SHOULD be cited and linked to in that case, per references guidelines; there's no need for an external link for it. Knippschild (talk) 19:51, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Does this mean we are in agreement that I am not spamming Wikipedia? I hope so.

Am sure you know how difficult it is to ensure that all your users ask and receive permission before posting information from other sites. I can't possibly monitor 2400 pages and keep up my site as well so appreciate your understanding of my use of links.

MasterRecs (talk) 19:56, 17 October 2008 (UTC)


 * I am not sure if you understood me correctly. Because you are the operator of the website, there's a bit of conflict of interest. Are you trying to boost your stats and hits or trying to improve Wikipedia as a whole? Also, because that information is posted publicly, I don't believe people need permission to CITE it. Knippschild (talk) 20:00, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

I was trying to add additional information about each artist. My site ranks #3 on Google right below Wikipedia so my stats are very good.

Considering how often I ran into IMDB as an external link while adding links to my site, I believe IMDB is adding those listings--as are other site owners and oeprators.

Simply because something is posted publicly does not mean that it is okay to use it without permission. Copyright and intellectual property laws apply to the internet as well as other forms of distribution like music files or playing a song on the radio. Someone still created the work and deserves credit for it.

71.246.251.242 (talk) 22:02, 17 October 2008 (UTC)


 * which.. is why you cite your sources. Like I said. Knippschild (talk) 22:15, 17 October 2008 (UTC)


 * You missed the bit about avoiding linking to your own site and the conflict of interest guideline. Oh, and you know why Wikipedia uses a lot of information from your site? It's because you added it. MER-C 02:23, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Rollback request at Sandy's talk
Hi saw your request at Sandy's page. Approach somebody from Category:Wikipedia administrators willing to grant rollback requests, if you have not approached anybody til now. I had recently approached User:Acalamari.--Redtigerxyz (talk) 08:25, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Request for Rollback
Hi there Knippschild, per your request I have just granted roll back on your account. Please see WP:RBK for full instructions or feel free to ask me if you need any help - most important thing to remember is that in must only be used to revert vandalism. Good luck & kind regards, Nancy  talk  08:31, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much! Knippschild (talk) 08:32, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Kevin Kline Edits
The edits I made took away two sources that were not reliable- one was a personal blog for the love of God. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.232.166.37 (talk) 09:51, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Good work!
Hi, Knippschild! I was feeling kind of lonely fighting vandals until you came along and started beating me to it :) You're doing a pretty good job. So here you go:

C h a m a l talk work 10:53, 19 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Heh... Just saw this message I had left you earlier. So who's beating who now? ;) Glad to see you've got rollback and huggle now, you're doing a good job with them. C h a m a l  talk work 10:57, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Re: Vladek Spiegelman
I realize you're using an automated tool, but I explained the reason for my edit in the edit summary. I'm reverting your edit.71.240.67.58 (talk) 11:37, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I know sorry. Pressed Q by accident. Don't hate me too much? I reverted my reverts :) Knippschild (talk) 11:38, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Re: Trivium
Hey, you were trying to revert the vandalism for Trivium but in doing so you reverted someone else's attempt to revert and reverted to the version that was the vandalised version by someone :P. Quite funny though :P But its fixed now :) Silent Assassin (talk) 07:50, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Re: Landmark
Hi there, you reverted my edit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landmark+Education?diff=246280095 due to supposed NPOV but having read the article referenced I think the edit is appropriate. Please read the article and suggest a better revision if you think fit --- but note that the quote as it appears is cherry-picked and does not reflect the tone of the referenced article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.253.156.33 (talk) 13:29, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Perhaps this is better. Knippschild (talk) 13:46, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Better indeed, thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.253.156.33 (talk) 13:48, 19 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi Knippschild - with respect, I would suggest that the edit (even in your toned-down form) is inappropriate and should be reverted as IMHO it violates WP:UNDUE WEIGHT. For one thing, it is an expression of opinion rather than fact; and furthermore the opinion of a single individual with no particular claim to expertise in the subject. Secondly, it is an atypical quote from the article which does not capture the overall thrust (even the editor admits it was "cherry-picked"); for example Badt also says "I did experience my own breakthroughs. I was glad I went. I did see how I used my past in my future; I did contemplate the rackets I laid on my friends and family. I thought overall this was a healthy experience.", and "There was nothing too objectionable about a program that has as a result reconciliation in relationships, as well as a new commitment to responsibility for one's present. Philosophically, the concepts are too sensible to be controversial."


 * Furthermore, I would suggest that we should view with caution the edits of unregistered IP editors on controversial subjects.


 * The Landmark Education article has been the subject of repeated edit wars and tendentious editing and is sorely in need of oversight from a non-partisan observer. DaveApter (talk) 17:52, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

???
Did you actually read the edit I made or are you just some kind of robot. As a representative of Wikipedia, I hereby ask you to cease and desist from posting any of my copyrighted works on your website, or on any other media. If you wish to discuss this issue (as I actually do), email me at wikipedia@gatunka.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mattopia (talk • contribs) 21:32, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

OK, the first human I have found. I want to contact someone at Wikipedia or Wikimedia, or whatever the organization is, and resolve this issue. If you are not in that position, then give me the contact details of someone who is. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mattopia (talk • contribs) 21:41, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Autosigned by SineBot apparently. I want to talk by phone to someone who has authority. Is that you? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mattopia (talk • contribs) 21:47, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

I just want to resolve this issue. Can you stop blocking me with robots (just look at my talk page). This is original content, in breach of the copyright law. Give me a phone number or an email address, or at least an on-line way to find someone who can deal with this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mattopia (talk • contribs) 21:54, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Re: Your Accidental Revert
That's alright mate, don't worry about it! That's why Wikipedia's great, if you make a mistake you can just go back :P I appreciate you taking the time to notify me though! Thanks for fixing it, too :) -- Razor  ICE  06:13, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

You don't happen to be...
...the operator of Universium, do you? It'd be a hell of a coincidence, just saw your name flash by on Huggle and wondered to myself. &mdash; neuro(talk) 00:34, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Well this is one hell of a small world then. I've been hoping I could catch up with you at some point to apologise for my misconduct with Darkclone a year or so ago. What I did was childish and asinine, and I do not condone it. I have a feeling you know who this is after that soliloquy, heh - how are you doing these days? &mdash; neuro(talk) 00:38, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
 * That's the one! As for pouring lightning, I don't know what to make of that, sounds somewhat dangerous. As for what is 'up' (the sky?), got my GCSEs coming up, stressed out as hell, yeah. If you've got IRC, I'm on #wikipedia at freenode at the moment. (I apologise for how succinct this message is, sort of lost my train of thought all of a sudden) &mdash; neuro(talk) 00:44, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
 * ? &mdash; neuro(talk) 00:48, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

not vandalism, trying to add content.
Hi Knippschild, so sorry. was trying to add content. my mouse works funny. how do you turn vandalism on on a page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Danmel73 (talk • contribs) 00:36, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

how do you check vandalism on oages then dear sir?
a page is constantly vandalized on wikepdia for personal reasons. page is about my boss. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Danmel73 (talk • contribs) 00:40, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

not good at this
I am not too good at this. can you request the protection for the page of Ms. Leila Djansi? her page is being vandalized by a fellow worker for job loss. we will appreciate this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Danmel73 (talk • contribs) 00:50, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

did not work
did not work. show me an example by typing the format pls--Danmel73 (talk) 01:05, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks
Good job cleaning up the vandalism on 51st Grammy Awards. He gave me a nice sample of IP addresses to calculate the range he was coming from. I've blocked that entire range for a little while. We hopefully won't be seeing him again tonight. Trusilver 06:22, 11 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Not a problem. Might I suggest filing an abuse report with the actual owner of those IPs, since this qualifies in my opinion as a network administrator as a gross abuse of resources. Knippschild (talk)

What, why?
Why revert, what was not constructive about my edit? 72.219.145.177 (talk) 06:45, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Re:Hey
Nice new name btw :)  C h a m a l  talk 11:31, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Re: Non-Admin Closure
I haven't been around long enough to even read that page yet, let alone know how. I'll let you do it this time :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ddawkins73 (talk • contribs) 21:59, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Non-admin closures are supposed to be identified as such. I hope you intend to clean this one up. Rklear (talk) 22:18, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I meant to do that, I forgot. I knew about, I simply forgot. Fixed. Alpha 4615 (talk) 22:23, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Also, as best practice, you should avoid non admin closures on AfDs you've participated in... the whole conflict of interest bit. Wouldn't have made a difference in this case, just a friendly reminder. Townlake (talk) 00:23, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I agree that is per norm, however this was extremely unambiguous, hence I took the action taken also another editor did rightfully call snowball. Alpha 4615 (talk) 00:43, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Not vandalism
well im not sure if hes not notable he's actually pretty famous in underground rap.. ive had a chance to meet him once in person.. and ive been to his concert and seen how his fans get but thats a different story... so if i cant put it on the article strap then where can i put it?????? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hector323 (talk • contribs) 05:06, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

umm it wasnt really plagarism cause where i got it from it said to pass it on.. and what i wrote was summarized... the original was too long.. and i wrote the story about the rapper there cause like his name is "StRap" and well i guess it fits where i wrote itHector323 (talk —Preceding undated comment was added on 04:55, 19 February 2009 (UTC).

umm how the hell do i sign my post???... and umm wat was rong with what i wrote??? i got it from another website and i thought it was a good story to tell —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hector323 (talk • contribs) 04:42, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

i wasnt vandalizing what happenned??(talk)

I don't understand why you reverted my edit of the Acid Bath page. I wasn't vandalizing, please explain what I did wrong. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.91.124.227 (talk) 03:21, 18 February 2009 (UTC)


 * First off, please sign your posts. Also you removed a large section of text from an article without an article summary. Also looking at the revision, it's quite possible that the text you removed should've been there. Also when your revisions are previously reverted by another editor, it makes it more suspicious and more likely to be reverted. Please use edit summaries to prevent these type of things in the future. Alpha 4615 (talk) 03:30, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

K sorry --71.91.124.227 (talk) 03:54, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

My talk
Thanks for the rollback, mate :) GARDEN  22:12, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Not a problem, us editors have to look out for eachother :). Normally I lay off of making any kind of edits to talk pages, but there was clear and present abuse. Birds of a feather flock together ;) Alpha 4615 (talk) 22:15, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Indeedy :) Thanks again!  GARDEN  22:17, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

VIP
The final outcome of the afd was never in much doubt. That still didn't justify an early close though. As I said, afd is a discussion, and there is rarely any value in cutting it short. Even in this case some further comments were made between your close and the final one. Take a look at Speedy keep (if you haven't already) to see when early closes are justified. 160.39.213.152 (talk) 21:19, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

This is Alpha
I am making this edit prove this is me. Alpha 4615 (talk) 19:50, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

ACC
-- FastLizard4 (Talk•Index•Sign) 05:44, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

-- FastLizard4 (Talk•Index•Sign) 07:02, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

I apologize for accidentally suspending you on ACC after you closed a request as Too Similar. I didn't read the logs carefully enough and didn't realize that one of the conflicting usernames was, in fact, created a short time ago. Again, apologies, and access has been re-granted. -- FastLizard4 (Talk•Index•Sign) 07:21, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Oh!!!! Sorry!
Sorry, I thought you were a new wikipedian. Sorry!--Petslover :) (talk) 12:08, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

hi
hi! -- ♥Soccer5525♥  19:52, 29 April 2009 (UTC)