User talk:Alphathon/Archive4

Your removal of my edit on Analog Controllers
I totally disagree with your statement "much that is mentioned is dependent on the manufacturer and is not intrinsic to analog stic" - Show me ONE analogue joypad with a square aperture and I will STFU. I was very careful to quantify my statement and back it up with reproducable evidence. I could easily have said "All analogue sticks suffer from this to one degree or another" and still probably have been correct. Sure, it isn't an issue inherent to analog joysticks of all kinds, but (AFAIK) all analog gamepads suffer from it due to design decisions by the manufacturers. If the language was not "Encyclopaedic" enough for you then fair enough, but do not remove perfectly good information based on that alone. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Evilc (talk • contribs) 22:55, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

--evilC

Sorry
I am a bit new to how Wikipedia works and will use the sandbox from now on. --ASUnknown (talk) 23:07, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Mega Drive Logos
I realize I don't have the knowledge, or Wiki skill to fight for the inclusion of all three logos on the page. Please continue this project. You handle your use of language and meaning far better than I can.--Sexy Kick 13:30, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I honestly don't think it's worth the effort, not now anyway. I think the best way forward is to first try to get clarification on whether the JP logo is classifiable as uncopyrightable and if so upload a vector version of it, which I can easily make up. Right now though I really don't have time for lengthy copyright discussions - I just have far too much work to do - so even that will have to wait. Alphathon ™ (talk ) 13:55, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Waiting is fine. But you're the man here.--Sexy Kick 14:23, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

Further discussion on Talk:Mega Drive
Hi there. This is a friendly note that I have left a new comment on Talk:Mega Drive regarding the inclusion of separate logos for the JP and EU "Mega Drive" and US "Genesis" models. In short, my position is that the JP Mega Drive and US Genesis logos are important to the understanding of the article's subject (since the Genesis has its own significant notability and is itself discussed at length in the article, even though its logo is not). I'm a few months late to the discussion since I took an extended hiatus from Wikipedia to focus on personal matters, but it looks like consensus was never fully reached on the matter.

I'll be happy to work with you on this issue, and I'm also leaving this notice on the talk pages of the other people who were active in the discussion. Thanks. :) 21:39, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

PS3 Jailbreak
Done. Added a whole section called "Jailbreak". It contains only the basics, may be expanded in the future. You can check it for spelling and grammar. Please fix everything that's wrong. Thanks in advance. --Fotero (talk) 19:09, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

please dont get me blocked
but perhaps you should be for the way you treat people. you actually made me feel threatened. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.208.75.209 (talk) 13:20, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

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If you have uploaded other unlicensed media, please check whether they're used in any articles or not. You can find a list of "file" pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "File" from the dropdown box. Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. Skier Dude ( talk  03:32, 13 October 2010 (UTC) }}

Hi,

I never edited something in a wiki before .. but ive done some test and those saves can be "moved" but not "copied" (bejeweled 2, forza 3, zuma (I don't have the other games))

anyway .. sorry for doing it .. maybe you could do something

70.82.58.208 (talk) 00:34, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Good Faith signature.
I cannot find a template for the good faith revert. Can you please direct me to it or post a template on my discussion page. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kendroche (talk • contribs) 17:27, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't intend to edit any notices.
 * It's the "reverted good faith edit by" instead of reverted to when you are undoing someone's work (that has been done in good faith but is wrong for whatever reason). Sorry for bugging you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kendroche (talk • contribs) 18:15, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank bud.Angry Mustelid (talk) 18:53, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Penny Arcade
I find it a notable argument that Penny Arcade both has their own convention about gaming that's described in the Penny Arcade Expo article as follows:


 * Created in 2004, PAX has been hailed as a weekend-long celebration of gamer culture. Defining characteristics include an insider keynote speech, game-inspired concerts, panels on game industry topics, exhibitor booths from independent and major game developers and publishers, after-hours parties, tournaments, and freeplay areas.

It's also notable that the Penny Arcade staff frequently gets handed pre-release copies of games to review, which gets covered frequently on their site. If you go to PennyArcade.com you wind up with a wall of text and have to find the comic (hint: click "Comic" near the top); and the comic doesn't seem to follow any continuity (like CAD) so much as function as a sort of political cartoon to give visual compliment to the text. Their opinion, thus, matters.

As for the quote I pulled, there was a reference to the relevant article. Which was about Kinect. The quote didn't mention Kinect directly; but the article was about Kinect, the quote was in the context of Kinect, and the context where quoted was on Kinect, which means all use of the quote was in the same context as the source of the quote.

My major issue with the Kinect article is more that I don't pay much attention to IGN and EGM and the like. Wikipedia and salesmen at GameStop are thus the only sources that I've heard anything positive about Kinect from; it seems everything I hear about Kinect is that it's crap, yet the Wikipedia article stands in sharp contrast to what's actually being said. This to me says that the editors are ignoring any flack as white noise and underscoring the critical (critics are not general audience, they are Seskel and Ebert) response-- only the positive reviews.

Kinect Reception
The editor with the ever changing IP keeps referring to the summary of reviews as "non-neutral" when such a summary is included in just about every article. "Mostly positive reviews" is about as accurate as it gets when looking at the review scores. The lowest rating to be found is 6/10 (and technically speaking, even this is in the top half of the 1-10 scale), with the majority of reviews averaging out to about 8/10. I did not add the summary back in because you asked not to, but there should definitely be a summary. Chris TC01 (talk) 16:26, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

Héctor Martín
The name is Martín, with accute accent. Sources are the Royal Academy of the Spanish language, spanish naming customs and the main spanish newspapers.

http://www.elpais.com/articulo/tecnologia/gusta/trastear/elpeputec/20101111elpeputec_4/Tes

''"Me gusta trastear" El cántabro Héctor Martín, primero en 'hackear' el sensor de juegos Kinect de Microsoft

JAVIER MARTÍN - Barcelona - 11/11/2010 Vota Resultado Sin interésPoco interesanteDe interésMuy interesanteImprescindible 56 votos Imprimir Enviar



Lo suyo es trastear con cacharros electrónicos, "eso es el hacking, aunque a veces se le da un significado peor". A sus 20 años recién cumplidos se ha convertido en el primero en hackear el sensor Kinect que permite jugar sin mando en la consola Xbox de Microsoft.

La noticia en otros webs


 * webs en español
 * en otros idiomas

No es la primera vez que hace algo similar, le gusta trastear, como él dice. "Me fascina aprender cómo funcionan las cosas sin que me lo expliquen". Y así ha conseguido otros éxitos similares como hackear el mando de la Wii. "Otros consiguieron hacerlo con los botones, pero yo lo hice con el puntero, que era lo difícil. También conseguí que funcionara con un ordenador y no solo con la consola de Nintendo".

Martín Cantero vive en Castro Urdiales, aunque eso es circunstancial. Estudia en Barcelona, eso sí a distancia. "El próximo año acabaré la carrera de informática en la Universitat Oberta de Catalunya". Antes se pasó tres años en Estados Unidos,en donde mejoró su inglés y aprendió otras cosas. Su blog y su cuenta en Twitter es prácticamente toda en inglés. "Es el lenguaje universal".

Está encantado con los 3.000 dólares de la empresa norteamericana Adafruit, que fue quien lanzó el reto. "No es frecuente ganarse dinero con estas cosas. Me vendrán bien para comprar algún aparato".

Ahora ha enviado su currículo a una empresa británica dedicada al software libre. "Quizás me salga algo. También gané algún dinero fabricando una maquinita que arreglaba las consolas Wii, pero poco más".

Martín Cantero, marcan en la Red, http://marcansoft.com/blog/, tiene un blog informático escrito enteramente en inglés donde explica sus inventos informáticos. "El blog lo tengo un poco olvidado, lo último fue lo de la Play. La nueva, cuando salió, dejaban hacer lo que quisieras con ella. Escribí un elogio por eso, diciendo que era un ejemplo para todos los fabricantes. Luego la bloquearon, así que yo me he dedicado a devolver Linux a la Play, a la nueva y a todas las que hay".

No teme que haya represalias de Microsoft. "Con los periféricos no es problema, otra cosas son las consolas porque si les abres el sistema puede dar pie a la piratería".

Adafruit recompensaba con 3.000 dólares la apertura de Kinect y la puesta al dominio público de una solución en código abierto para usar el mando en cualquier ordenador y no únicamente en la consola de videojuegos. Adafruit al publicar el nombre del ganador explica que sometió su solución al chequeo de terceros y comprobó que efectivamente podía usarse en un portátil equipado con Linux. La recompensa finalmente, tras varias subidas, es de 3.000 dólares para el ganador y el convocante donará otros 2.000 a la Electronic Frontier Foundation.

El sitio explica que Héctor ha comentado que destinará parte del dinero a otros grupos de desarrollo de herramientas de hacker como Team Tweezers (sobre Wii) e iPhone Dev Team. Martín Cantero considera que estos grupos carecen de ingresos para adquirir y desarrollar herramientas y que muchas veces su afición, para ofrecer soluciones en abierto y gratuitas, resulta muy cara.

Microsoft había advertido de que el mando está equipado con sistemas físcios y lógicos para reducir la posibilidad de una alteración de su producto y que si ello se produce trabajará conjuntamente con las autoridades judiciales para impedirlo. En la explicación de su concurso, Adafruit incluía el aviso de Microsoft.

Hay un vídeo que prueba lo conseguido por Héctor Martín'' —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.126.10.233 (talk) 12:40, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

Controller trace images
Hey, I noticed that you were the one who made the controller trace images for the 360 controller and the GameCube controller. I was wondering if you could make images like that for the Classic Controller and Classic Controller Pro?

Sincerely, Thegreyanomaly (talk) 08:36, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

I think you may have forgot about the trace images, so I thought I should remind you, Thegreyanomaly (talk) 06:28, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

Best-selling pc games
Hey, thanks for pointing that out for me. I myself didn't even realize that it was referring to all combined platform sales and couldn't figure out why someone hadn't already added it. Guess that's why :P — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dilcoe (talk • contribs) 07:01, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

png versus jpg files
i just did up the playstation picture with the dualshock controller, which i made a png with the transparent shadow. i also uploaded a regular jpg version of it. one of the things that i noticed when it comes to non-native sizes of pictures (thumbnails, previews) is that the png files look terrible compared to a jpg counterpart, very fuzzy. you can see it between the two original playstations on my gallery page. so i guess my question or statement is, is this really worth it? the only real reason i can see that the transparent png files are used is to avoid a white box around the image in some of the non-white boxes, like for article side-bars, but it's not even that noticeable to me in the first place. but if you consider the loss in quality for thumbs and previews of pngs, why aren't we just using jpgs? i'd rather have the quality than the idea of the white box being mildly distracting.

Evan-Amos (talk) 07:45, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

Color/Design sections on Classic Controller
Hey, I added said sections onto the article, to try to add content to the page. There was a comment that the section was trivial, and I am now initiating a discussion on the talk page. The sections are loosely based on the Colors/Design segments on Nintendo GameCube controller and since you are one of the most active editors on that page, I felt I should ask you to weigh in. Thegreyanomaly (talk) 01:12, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

Hey thanks
Thanks for bringing that up. Totaly forgot about that. I was also wondering if I could ask you a question seeing as your one of the chaps with more power on here. The article, Pangaea Ultima/Proxima. I thinking about the name. It seems more people call it proxima nowadays so I thought the article should be moved to that. But now im wondering whether or nor thats the official name. Know anything? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aurongurdian (talk • contribs) 19:15, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Hey thanks again
Thanks for telling me, Im realy not used to the wiki yet, so thanks for getting me started. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aurongurdian (talk • contribs) 19:50, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Fallout: New Vegas DLC
It's been stated on several websites, Youtube videos etc from IGN, Machinima, the Fallout Wiki and such that the New Vegas DLC would be a timed exclusive for the 360, as with Fallout 3 and Call of Duty. Why get that when there are millions of PS3 and PC users playing the same game (and paying the company good money), i don't know, it's not fair, but a least we'll get access to it eventually. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.147.135.59 (talk) 21:59, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

About the tables
Hi. I understand what you are saying and how that could be a problem (Really, I do, because I actually fixed a few unreliable numbers/sources on the list earlier), but I don't just randomly follow the original list, I check that the # of copies sold agree with the listing, and while I don't personally check out every single source, I do make sure it's not from Yahoo! Answers or something, but from an actual article from a reliable website like Gamestop. I know that exact numbers are to find from trying to find them myself, but I just try to trust the people who sourced them to a certain extent. I understand a lot of lists are outdated when they shouldn't be, like the ps3 list.

I was not aware, however, that lists had to have the format you specified on my talk page, and I'll stop for the time being, since I do not know very much about the page history. Could you please tell me why you do not want to "assign each game a number", because I think personally that would help order the list better? If it's because it changes too quickly to maintain or something, I can understand, but why exactly? Thanks, AOC25 (talk) 16:20, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Video game Generations
There's a huge, in-depth discussion over at WP:VG about the video game generations and how to classify video game "eras". Some is worth reading, some isn't. Anyways, I thought I'd mention it here because the PSP page is rather high traffic with people inexperienced with wikipedia policy right now, with the recent NGP announcement and all, and if I put the link there, I'm not sure how helpful it would be to attract a ton of people to join that discussion with logic along the lines of "8th gen is now cuz I say so!". Not criticizing anyone in particular, just in general... Sergecross73  msg me   18:36, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

Sega Genesis pictures
So I just have taken pictures of the model 1 & 2 Sega Genesis, but really don't know what to do with it, since the pictures and article is very focused on the Mega Drive aspect. Should I try to put them into the article, or just the variations one? Evan-Amos (talk) 20:53, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

List of Best Selling Video Games
Hello,

I was trying to get sales figures on top selling video games, and came across this article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_selling_video_games. I read Wikipedia a lot, but I don't know much about editing, adding data, etc. It looked like you contributed the most to this article. The reason I am writing is that there is no mention of CoD: Black Ops under the xbox 360 system, and I believe it should be #2 or 3, based on the data on the Black Ops wiki page, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Call_of_Duty:_Black_Ops#cite_note-75. Not sure how to do this, or if I just write you and you can add to the list. Any help is appreciated.

Illuminate it (talk) 22:20, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

I don't understand the logic of deleting top selling video games overall namely, that we don't know if there are video games out there that sold more. One can say the game for all the categories on the site. How do we know the #1 SNES game is really #1? The facts and figures are based on the best information available. The overall best seller lists has the same level of certainty we attribute to the system specific breakdowns. The all-time best sellers should be consolidated again from where they now stand - scattered across the systems and thus less useful as an information tool - to a unified list of best selling unbundled games. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.28.86.134 (talk) 01:34, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

eh
Yeah sorry bout that, didn't reference the Torchlight game release date change. — Preceding unsigned comment added by The PC Gamer (talk • contribs) 23:24, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Map of the Netherlands
Hello Alphathon, Just cheched your new map of the Netherlands, but I don't see any difference between the old and the new map. Dqfn13 (talk) 12:52, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

PS3 metldr key
Why would you remove the key? There is precedent that Wikipedia document these things: AACS encryption key controversy. Do I have to create a PS3 encryption keys controversy article? — Jizzbug (talk) 01:32, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

Kinect video page
Could you perhaps explain why kinect hack video compilations are against the rules? They give a good idea what is accomplished with the Open source drivers from Héctor Martín. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.129.48.203 (talk) 18:31, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

picture of SNES PAL in infobox
I just edited this one from a file in the commons, do you think we should put it up in the infobox? I think it'd be best to avoid cartridges with artwork and such on them, but it's not necessarily a better picture, either.

Evan-Amos (talk) 01:25, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

raw files and such
I took a bunch of photos (some of which you've already seen) the other day and started to use RAW for it. I looked up the RAW to DNG converter for photoshop and now I've got something that works out. I can feel the improvement in quality when I'm editing the pics up close, so I feel a bit silly for not having tried harder to use it in the past. Just wanted to thank you for mentioning it to me.Evan-Amos (talk) 20:45, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Sega CD page
I now have a picture of a model 1 Sega Genesis on a model 1 Sega CD (w/out controller) and a picture of a model 2 Sega Genesis on a model 2 Sega CD (w/out controller) that I was going to edit up. When I went to the Sega CD page to see how it was layed out, I was a bit surprised about it being a bit of a mess, and I'm having a hard time figuring out how I'd incorporate the pictures into it. I know that the Mega Drive page has been a big point of contention among the people who watch it, but do you have any idea if the Sega CD page will be the same?Evan-Amos (talk) 16:48, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Message at Commons
Hello, I've left you a message at Commons. Cheers! Aaker (talk) 20:37, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

I think you deserve more barnstars...

 * Should I have put this on your user page?--Sexy Kick 01:37, 11 March 2011 (UTC)


 * How did I miss this? Cheers man!


 * No, here's fine - a user page is like a résumé or personal profile, so unless it's vandalised I personally wouldn't edit someone else's. I've been meaning to rearrange my user page anyway, so may just have to add it when I do. [[file:face-smile.svg|22px]]


 * Alphathon  /'æl.f'æ.ðɒn/ (talk ) 01:55, 11 March 2011 (UTC)


 * lol, how did you miss it indeed! I hope someone gives me the right half one day.--Sexy Kick 04:40, 11 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Hey, if I deserve one… [[file:face-smile.svg|22px]] Alphathon  /'æl.f'æ.ðɒn/ (<font color="#900">talk ) 22:32, 11 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Yeah, you don't deserve just one either. I hope more people take notice of your tireless efforts, nuetral tone, and strong intellect.--<font color="#00BFFF ">Sexy <font color="#347235">Kick 23:16, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

Hehe, I meant if I deserve one, so do you! Thanks very much though, I appreciate it! <font face="sans-serif"><font color="#900">Alphathon  /'æl.f'æ.ðɒn/ (<font color="#900">talk ) 00:58, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

Hello
Now, I found another error, but on this map: File:Knowledge French EU map.svg. The scale lacks the interval 5-9%, where Greece and Bulgaria should be. Hope you hae time to fix it. Thanks! Aaker (talk) 11:34, 6 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Okay, thanks! Aaker (talk) 18:01, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

non-flag additions to Playstation 3 article
Dear Alphathon

I had a couple of edits to the text of the Playstation 3 article, they were in regards to the complete list of charges filed in the lawsuit. These were separate from the flag thing. I would appreciate a second opinion on this deletion thank you. Decora (talk) 02:14, 7 March 2011 (UTC)

Of course I also feel the flag is not copyrightable under US law, being a collection of simple geometric shapes. But apparently someone has disagreed. Again i feel the text content of my edit was not a related issue, it merely listed more of the charges against GeoHot. Decora (talk) 03:49, 7 March 2011 (UTC)


 * ok thanks for the information. Decora (talk) 22:10, 7 March 2011 (UTC)


 * so, what happens if I just re-add the flag? no citation? but i dont want to get a 'revert war', i want to go through proper channels. Someone suggested I start on Media_copyright_questions so I have done so. Decora (talk) 22:41, 7 March 2011 (UTC)


 * i appreciate your time on this! i got the 'infringing' word...in the first amendment from, where else, wikipedia ! serves me right.  thanks again. Decora (talk) 02:18, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

Thought you might want to know that the flag is restored and the Arbitration Audit Subcommittee has responded; links to discussions are here:

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File_talk:Free-speech-flag-ps3.svg

Thank you Decora (talk) 14:51, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

dreamcast controller
man, you would have to put a redone dreamcast controller just two days before i was doing mine. that terrible picture on the gamepad page had been there for years!Evan-Amos (talk) 19:53, 11 March 2011 (UTC)


 * what about emailing me makes you uncomfortable? it's easier to handle some things that way than through talk pages.
 * Evan-Amos (talk) 18:36, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

hi.
for now on, i will talk to u here. so, what is the difference between the buttons on dualshock, dualshock 2, and playstation analog controller? (for ps1 analog controler, they have like a crater in the analog sticks.) and does dualshock 1, playstation analog controller, and the playstation control pad work on ps2? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.236.161.43 (talk) 19:02, 13 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Look, no offence, but I'm not here to answer trivia questions about PlayStation-related topics. Everything you just asked is answered is on Wikipedia - see PlayStation Controller, Dual Analog Controller and DualShock. <font face="sans-serif"><font color="#900">Alphathon  /'æl.f'æ.ðɒn/ (<font color="#900">talk ) 19:31, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

HELP
There is an insane amount of vandalism taking place at the PlayStation page right now, and I can't keep up with all of it. You seem to be a user who's involved with that page, maybe you can help. Thanks. --Ashershow1talk • contribs 23:07, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

16 Bit warz Amiga
Yeah about that, the section was called just "16 bit era" so I trought why not metioning the Amiga Since it is so unbeliveble under rated nowadays and the Amiga vs Atari section let it look like the Amiga wasn't populair in the 90's and it quite small so alot of people are going to skip that and go directly to the what many called the "SNES/Megadrive era" what pisses me off since (and i'm an atari ST guy :P) The Amiga just ruled europe with SNES's sitting in a bargan bin at a Shop and most people nowadays are acting that Nintendo had gobal sucsess, so and that is my evil scheme to give the Amiga more actetion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.84.102.49 (talk) 15:06, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

IGN Top 25
Hey,

You were very cordial and sincere in explaining why you were removing the IGN top 25 stuff, but I still question it.

I believe it's relevant as IGN is one of, if not the, premier gaming websites out there. If IGN chose the Intellivision, I consider that important, and I believe that it deserves to be mentioned.

I also believe that not much more information was needed other than the sentence. If a person was interested in the reasons why IGN selected the Dreamcast or the Atari 2600, they would click on the reference and go to the actual website. However, if you want me to put something like that in there, I could say 'IGN chose the Nintendo Entertainment System as the No. 1 console on it's list, praising it's innovation in the industry' or something like that.

Again, thanks for your cordiality, mate. MAINEiac4434 (talk) 17:22, 28 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the help man, I completely understand.

Also, I always make sure to thank people who treat others with respect on the internet. Too few people actually do anymore... MAINEiac4434 (talk) 19:28, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

90's gaming in Europe
Hi, I saw that someone edited a small part of that the Megadrive wasn't as popular as low-end computers as he mentiond the Amiga 500, As I grown up in europe in the 70's and was a game journalist in the 80's/90's I can safely say that Consoles where nowherenere popular/selling as Computers as the Commodore 64, ZX spectrum, Atari ST and Amiga but Sega did great for the time, just wanted you to know that it is true. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.84.102.49 (talk) 20:45, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Xbox 360 sales
The Xbox 360 shipped number of 50 million was announced by microsoft at CES 2011 referring to the quarter ending on 31-12-10.

Link to microsoft's official press release.

http://www.microsoft.com/Presspass/Features/2011/jan11/01-06CESXbox.mspx —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.96.169.77 (talk) 17:38, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

So the new shipped figure of 52.7 million based on there most recent press release is accurate.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/28/microsoft-announces-record-q3-earnings-16-43-billion-revenue/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.96.169.77 (talk) 17:44, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

Xbox 360 sales
http://www.microsoft.com/investor/EarningsAndFinancials/Earnings/PressReleaseAndWebcast/FY11/Q3/default.aspx

Go to the above link and click on powerpoint or go direct to the below link and download the slides accompanying the press release.

Then go to slide 13.

http://www.microsoft.com/global/investor/RenderingAssets/Downloads/FY11/Q3/SlidesFY11Q3.pptx

The quarter ending 31-12-2010 was microsofts 2nd quarter of 2011 in which 50 million xbox 360's had been shipped.

The above links deal with the 3rd quarter of 2011 ending 31-03-2011 in which 2.7 million xbox 360's have been shipped for a total of 52.7 million xbox 360's shipped. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.96.169.77 (talk) 23:00, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

Microsoft's fiscal year ends Jun 30
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ks?s=msft —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.96.169.77 (talk) 11:56, 1 May 2011 (UTC)