User talk:Altaaa

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Altaaa (talk) 04:34, 9 March 2012 (UTC)Dear Administrator, this morning I edited Derrick Bell's page and added a link from a NYT article that state that one of his famous essays, The Trade Spacers is considered antisemitic by many people. A few hours later, the addition was deleted. I posted it again, and noticed that another user did the following: 19:14, 8 March 2012‎ HJ Mitchell (talk | contribs)‎ m. . (14,795 bytes) (0)‎. . (Protected Derrick Bell: Violations of the biographies of living persons policy

I found this action abusive as Bell has been dead for months. I proceeded to go to this user talk page and posted the following: Altaaa (talk) 01:37, 9 March 2012 (UTC)I find it very interesting that what you continuously delete is the comment that Space Traders is considered an antisemitic essay, even though there was a link to the original article from NYT where it was discussed and prominent Professors like Dershowitz have discussed the antisemitism in that work. There is no vandalism involved and to be honest it is arrogant and totalitarian to just lock the page under false pretenses because you disagree with people's philosophy. The reason that people have started shunning Wikipedia is exactly attitudes like that to prevent a free flow of facts. If someone had written about the opinions of the faculty that Bell left the deanship at Oregon Law School because he was going to be fired since he spend all the time lecturing away from the school, I could understand that. But there are articles about his antisemitism. Bell's page does not even include his racist comments about Clarence Thomas, "The choice of Clarence Thomas replicates the slave masters' practice of elevating slaves willing to mimic the masters' views." Also, Prioryman, name calling people you disagree with "dunderheads" really diminishes Wikipedia and perpetuates the impression that most administrators are bigots.

The user not only did not have the courtesy of replying to my comment, but deleted it. I posted the following later: 9 March 2012 (UTC)Dear HJ, do you represent the Wikipedia censorship brigade? I do not usually engage in conversations here so please let me know what I did wrong and you deleted my comment that there are NYT article's about Bell's antisemitism, as well as questioning why you locked the page since Bell is DEAD. I am a simple person, the type of people that Wikipedia was supposed to inspire to all contribute but totalitarian behavior like the one yo have exhibited both at Bell's page and here are what sours people with Wikipedia. Is not it bigoted behavior for Prioryman to call people that have opposing views "dunderheads"? I am sorry but ypur behavior, as well as prioryman's, along with your sarcastic tone in history is what diminishes Wikipedia and makes you equal to the totalitarian freepers. The facts are the facts. Is not the Gray Lady a sufficiently legitimate source?

Then that user "pressed the bell" so I will be blocked. I may have been naive and thought that senior members in Wikipedia have these talk pages to discuss the issues. I was not trying to harass or attack anyone. To the contrary, I have been totally respectful of everybody. However, if the behavior that I encountered today is the typical behavior of the administrators/senior staff, then it is really sad that this great endeavor has degenerated to a site where only political correct speech is allowed. Or it may be because HJ lives in England where free speech is not allowed. As Americans, that's one of our liberties that is cherished and should be defended. Free speech is what makes us different from Europe and has allowed intellectual thinking and academic research to flourish, instead of remaining stagnant as it happens in Europe. I am really surprised by this whole behavior. Is this high school, or what? We are all adults and we should engage in conversation, not call mom when we do not like something. My ten year old does this, not an adult.

Altaaa (talk) 04:50, 9 March 2012 (UTC)Dear Administrator, I am sorry, I was not aware of how I was supposed to express the problem and used legal form. I was not intentionally trying to attack anyone. I request that (a)be unblocked, and (b) review the issue that I want to be edited. I was just trying to discuss why a page was locked with the reason that the person was alive, even though the person was dead. I do not understand what I did wrong in my edit and my comment was kept being deleted. I wrote that a literary work by Bell has been considered antisemitic by some and provided a link to the article in NYT that states exactly that and discusses why many argue that the work is antisemitic. I was also under the assumption that the talk page is to discuss with a senior editor why the edit is being deleted.

I am not even asking to be unblocked. I just want to contribute my observations by this whole experience as you have proven my point. May be it can be food for thought for someone. Both the British guy HJ Mitchell, and the Australian Administrator Nick exhibited what I wrote in my original unblock request and it is the reason that Wikipedia has lost its original luster. Only in the USA we have freedom of speech to fully talk, express our opinion and defend it. Both of you exhibited what we consider in the USA childish behavior whereas when you disagree with the facts, you just try to shut down dialogue instead of attempting to educate the other person about it. Or is it also because you conform in the stereotypical impression that the people have about you, that you are either unemployed and stuck in your parent;s basement, or just computer geeks that are engaged in a routine job and socially awkward and just try to dominate the others since they can not engage in civil conversation. Oh, excuse me, you are going to consider the above as personal attack. Obviously you live in a different universe. In the real world that I live, people engage in dialoge and try to solve their differences. This experience has made me an even stronger advocate of free speech and showed me why the USA continues to be the country that everybody wants to migrate in or is just jealous.