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Why did you undo my contribution?
You wrote: > this ix not about gafieira. also refs to youtube dance videos are not reliable and may be used only as an additional illustration

The original article (now the current) contains so much nonsense The gafieira-page also. There is a conflict with Brazilians on YouTube that Ballroom Samba is not samba. My contribution made everyhing clear: that both are the same dances, but that samba de gafieira is a fraud.

To refute my conrtribution the refuters should answer these questions first: 1 why Brazilians use the American box step as basis? 2 Why do they step on the wrong beat? 3 How can Brazilians create samba the gafieira if they can not dance the basis: the waltz — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gdance (talk • contribs) 11:40, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

I read your respons. But you reverted to the bad original article. These points are absolutely wrong: 1 It differs considerably from the original samba styles of Brazil, in particular it differs from Ballroom Samba in Brazil itself 2 ballroom samba has its origins in Samba of Brazil at the beginning of the 20th century. 3 very disconnected from the origins and evolution of the music that gives it its name. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gdance (talk • contribs) 21:12, 2 December 2018 (UTC)

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Four tildes
Your attention is called to Signatures. Your friend, BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 15:31, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Thx, fixed. - Altenmann >talk 03:59, 13 December 2018 (UTC)

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NKVD
Can u tell me from where do u have this.--Sanandros (talk) 05:09, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
 * of course not. 15 years ago, man!. But you may find much burocratic info from this encyclopedia . At that time my goal was to add info to combat a ridiculous cliche widespread in the west that all what NKVD did was killing off those who did not like stalin or those whom stalin did not like. This info was readily googlable by russian terms. Most probably I got it from Memorial publications available online, because thats how i created my numerous articles about soviet political repressions. - Altenmann >talk 09:27, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
 * PS I suspect you dont read russian. I will fill in refs from the book I ext-linked above. - Altenmann >talk 09:30, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
 * No Russian is not my language. But the info you added is still in the article and it would be useful to kick NKVD out of the Intelligence cats (on de wp). But for that I need a reliable source.--Sanandros (talk) 12:37, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Did u found time to fill in the refs?--Sanandros (talk) 07:27, 4 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Sorry I am ill. The link to book is a ref for GUSHOSDOR. Please ask someone from WikiProject:Russia to search this book. All is there. It is encyclopedia of kgb . - Altenmann >talk 05:24, 5 February 2019 (UTC)

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See Articles for deletion/Aggravation of class struggle under socialism. Informing you because you created this page. My very best wishes (talk) 01:02, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

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Thanks
Thanks for your help in regards to the Indian film and Hard gay. Some idiot keeps deleting my edits.144.138.236.221 (talk) 03:59, 22 March 2019 (UTC)

Ridiculous revert
It is scarcely believable that you undid my series of clearly described and obviously necessary edits to rootless cosmopolitan with the absurd edit summary "Not an improvement as a whole". Does any of this really need explaining to you?
 * as an accusation in their lack of patriotism is not grammatical; in should be of
 * The expression was coined in 19th century is not grammatical; there needs to be a definite article before 19th
 * the popular actor and world-famous public figure is not neutral in any context, and is transparently absurd in this case
 * blogs are not reliable sources
 * when and whether Golda Meir changed her surname is utterly irrelevant to this article.
 * Huge enthusiastic crowds (estimated 50,000) is not grammatical; Huge is vague, and redundant when the number is given; enthusiastic is unlikely to be neutral or verifiable
 * scores of Soviet Jews were fired - do you know what "scores" means?
 * Many were shocked to find a Yiddish verse (sung by Mikhoels) cut out from the famous lullaby in the Soviet classic movie Circus ("Tsirk", 1936), known by heart by millions and still very popular in post-war Soviet cinemas. - many? who exactly? Who says they were shocked? Why is their claimed shock relevant? Famous is a peacock word which conveys no information. "Classic" is not neutral. "Known by heart by millions" is not verifiable. "Still very popular" is not verifiable.

And yet, you put all of these obvious failings right back in the article. What explanation do you have for doing that? 146.90.125.54 (talk) 21:56, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

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Result of Battles of Rzhev
Hello Altenmann

Just for your information, I did not introduce the result 'tactial victory' on the article's webpage. Prior to my latest involvation, the article was heavily edited by multiple socks, (probably still going to be an issue in the near future) I simply reverted his/hers edits. It appears, that the result was inserted by an IP diff back in June 2019. I have not noticed the mistake until your edit summary. *made me chuckle* I agree with your sentiment, and I would argue —after checking my source— that the result should be 'inconclusive' per WP:IMC Template. Regards, Wildkatzen (talk) 12:36, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

Russian historian Svetlana Gerasimova states in her 2013 issued book "The Rzhev Slaughterhouse: The Red Army's Forgotten 15-Month Campaign Against Army Group Center, 1942-1943" pp 167-9:

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Sandarmohk
Thanks for creating Sandarmokh. The 2018 information about "new investigations" was also covered by the Finnish national broadcaster Yle: in 2018. And two days ago, Ilta-Sanomat published awo extensive articles about the effort for digging up the site again: Interesting information that Johan Bäckman is leading the PR efforts there. In the article, Finnish historians wondered why the Russian researchers have not been interested in Finnish archives and straight suspected that it is a "propaganda stunt". I'm probably going to write something about these developments, but it's hard to write NPOV text without Russian sources. --Pudeo (talk) 18:37, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

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Observer (disambiguation)
Hi:

I noticed that you redirected the page Observer (disambiguation) to Observer as the disambiguation page. I know this is long ago, but do you still remember what was your reason at the time and if your think that it is still the case.

Pierre cb (talk) 13:37, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I look into history. At that day I tagged observer for disambig-cleanup, because I was lazy to do it myself, and created o(d) because by rules we need this page. Today I would rather moved o to o(d) and redirected o to observation. - Altenmann >talk 04:29, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
 * OK. Pierre cb (talk) 10:15, 14 May 2021 (UTC)

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Ivan the Fool
Hi, 15 years ago you made an edit referring to a story/fable by Tergenev titled Ivan the Fool. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special%3AMobileDiff%2F29257077?wprov=sfla1

I recently became interested in the topic, but can't find another mention of this story by Ternegev. I found a few things that are close (about Ivans, and about fools, but not both together). I would love to know about this story if it's out there! Thanks 107.242.121.24 (talk) 04:20, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Sorry i was mistaken. Ivan turgenev has a short story ("a poem in prose") "The Fool" (Тургенев. "Дурак"). - Altenmann >talk 05:19, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

P.S. If yiu are doibg research on ivan the fool, please kep in mind that in ryssian this charcter may be called eithr Иван дурак or Иванушка дурачок. - Altenmann >talk 05:23, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

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The reference "Among the Russian Jews' What Mr. Arnold White Saw and Learned.", The New York Times, June 13, 1892 at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_agricultural_colonies_in_the_Russian_Empire includes "(with a link to a PDF photocopy of the full article)" from May 2008. The article at https://www.nytimes.com/1892/06/13/archives/among-the-russian-jews-what-mr-arnold-write-saw-and-learned-the.html is restricted and the link at the end of https://web.archive.org/web/20180522090307/https://www.nytimes.com/1892/06/13/archives/among-the-russian-jews-what-mr-arnold-write-saw-and-learned-the.html doesn't lead to the PDF. Mcljlm (talk) 17:09, 29 May 2023 (UTC)

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Samizdat
Can I return my explanation about samizdat in "Talk" if I delete quotation of Zhvanetsky at the beginning? I just wanted to leave information for the authors of the article about the formation of the term, the cultural perception of it and its more accurate (IMHO) translation as a native speaker and a resident of the designated territory. With no other intentions. Of course, I am not an "source" in Wikipedia's understanding, but this information may point the way to the authors for further refine of the article. 178.187.94.129 (talk) 18:07, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
 * . Wikipedia is not a discussion forum. Article talk pages are for duscussions how to improve article content. New information must be based on references to reliable sources, see our policies WP:CITE, WP:RS, not just out of one's head. - Altenmann >talk 18:24, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I answered in "Talks". I know it. And thanks for understanding. 178.187.94.129 (talk) 19:12, 7 July 2023 (UTC)

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In light of wp:overlink, explain your zero-edit-summary revert here. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Barmaley_Fountain&diff=next&oldid=1165892460

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 * Sorry, I am not talking to anon IPs. - Altenmann >talk 15:29, 18 July 2023 (UTC)


 * No need to talk to me. But there is a need to follow WP rules. I'm pinging User:Nikkimaria and User:Vipz as they are non-IPs, and perhaps that will meet your standards for discourse, and sorry to have to trouble them for something so obvious but perhaps one has a moment.--2603:7000:2101:AA00:6566:1438:8BA:D9FE (talk) 17:33, 18 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi IP, I don't see anything to do with (over)linking in that diff - could you clarify?


 * Altenmann, do you have sourcing for the claims added? Nikkimaria (talk) 00:23, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I added nothing - Altenmann >talk 16:10, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
 * This edit shows you adding content that had been previously removed for lack of sourcing. Do you have sourcing to support this content? Nikkimaria (talk) 00:49, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
 * No I am not adding. I am restoring the removed. Yes, I have; ruwiki has plenty of them. To this end I added the hatnote  expand Russian. - Altenmann >talk 01:05, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
 * WP:BURDEN indicates that "The burden to demonstrate verifiability lies with the editor who adds or restores material, and it is satisfied by providing an inline citation to a reliable source that directly supports the contribution" (my emphasis). Could you please either do that, or undo your restoration? Nikkimaria (talk) 01:37, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
 * As to the overlinking - apologies for my edit summary (mistaken on my part), compounded by my following it up w/a comment (I was at close to the same time dealing elsewhere w an overlinking issue and I apologize for my quite apparent confusion). My comments as to wp:burden still stand. Nikkimaria - many thanks for taking time out in your no doubt busy day. And for deigning to speak to an IP. 2603:7000:2101:AA00:C5EE:EC1C:6250:8821 (talk) 06:25, 19 July 2023 (UTC)

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Without the right of correspondence
Hello! May I propose to rename the article Without the right of correspondence to "10 years without the right of correspondence" (Rus. "10 лет без права переписки")? Looks it is more right according (Robert Conquest. The Great Terror: A Reassessment (Wayback https://books.google.ru/books?hl=ru&id=ubXQSk2qfXMC&q=%22Without+the+right+of+correspondence%22#v=snippet&q=%22Without%20the%20right%20of%20correspondence%22&f=false ). Oxford University Press, 2007 p. 287.) (That is the messy reference stolen by me from Russian Wikipedia) There is no clear citation regarding lede ("Without the right of correspondence" (WRC) (Russian: Без права переписки, abbreviated as БПП in official documents)). But I am not sure if maybe there was a source to name that sort? PoetVeches (talk) 16:30, 5 August 2023 (UTC)


 * I found also on the web "Ten years without the right of correspondence" (Robert Conquest STALIN’S VICTIMS: A REPLY TO R. W. DAVIES. NEW LEFT REVIEW). It's a problem for me. Should I choose "10" or "Ten"? For literature style "Ten years" looks more academic, but Robert Conquest used just "10 years" before in the referenced Google book above. PoetVeches (talk) 16:52, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I moved to "10 years without the right of correspondence" so far, but it may be changed to "Ten years without the right of correspondence", I suppose. PoetVeches (talk) 17:26, 5 August 2023 (UTC)

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