User talk:Altkiddo

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Proposed deletion of Patrick Bellew


The article Patrick Bellew has been proposed for deletion because it appears to have no references. Under Wikipedia policy, all newly created biographies of living persons must have at least one reference to a reliable source that directly supports material in the article. &#32; The nominator also raised the following concern:
 * All biographies of living people created after March 18, 2010, must have references.

If you created the article, please don't be offended. Instead, consider improving the article. For help on inserting references, see Referencing for beginners, or ask at the help desk. Once you have provided at least one reliable source, you may remove the prod blp tag. Please do not remove the tag unless the article is sourced. If you cannot provide such a source within ten days, the article may be deleted, but you can when you are ready to add one. Total-MAdMaN (talk) 07:46, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

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Hi, you can sign your comments automatically using four tildes ~. I deleted your recent article because
 * it did not provide independent verifiable sources to enable us to verify the facts and show that it meets the notability guidelines. It is now wikipedia policy that biographical articles about living people must have independent verifiable references. As a matter of policy, all biographies of living people will be deleted if they do not have references One of your two sources was his own company, not independent, and the RSA page, despite claiming copyright, was a copy of the Atelier page, so again not independent.
 * It was written in a promotional tone. Articles must be neutral and encyclopaedic. Examples of spammy claims without verifiable in-line references include: one of the UK’s Royal Designers... has expertise in... pioneered numerous environmental innovations... He has achieved notable success in... 
 * The article was created in a single edit without wikilinks and looks as if was copied from a copyrighted source. Although not a verbatim copy, it was a close paraphrase of the Atelier/RSA text, both sites asserting copyright on the text. Copyrighted text is not allowed in Wikipedia, as outlined in this policy. That applies even to pages created by you or your organisation, unless they state clearly that the text is public domain.

He may well be notable, but the article needs to be more neutral in tone, written from scratch, and with genuinely independent sources  Jimfbleak -  talk to me?  11:53, 4 June 2012 (UTC)


 * It's not really his notability that's in question, it's the lack of independent sources, the promotional tone and the fact that part of the article at least infringes claimed copyrights. The copyright-infringing material must not be used anywhere on Wikipedia, but if you want to create a neutral, properly sourced version of the article, you are otherwise welcome to do so. Many editors start articles in user space so they can get it right before throwing it to the wolves  Jimfbleak -  talk to me?  10:10, 6 June 2012 (UTC)