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Tech News: 2022-03
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 * When using WikiEditor (also known as the 2010 wikitext editor), people will now see a warning if they link to disambiguation pages. If you click "" in the warning, it will ask you to correct the link to a more specific term. You can read more information about this completed 2021 Community Wishlist item.
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 * Community Wishlist Survey 2022 continues. All contributors to the Wikimedia projects can propose for tools and platform improvements. The proposal phase takes place from 18:00 UTC to  18:00 UTC. Learn more.

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19:53, 17 January 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Vacated victory
— Maile (talk) 12:03, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

Tech News: 2022-06
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 * English Wikipedia recently set up a gadget for dark mode. You can enable it there, or request help from an interface administrator to set it up on your wiki (instructions and screenshot).
 * Category counts are sometimes wrong. They will now be completely recounted at the beginning of every month.

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 * A code-change last week to fix a bug with Live Preview may have caused problems with some local gadgets and user-scripts. Any code with skin-specific behaviour for  should be updated to also check for  . A code-snippet, global search, and example are available.

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21:14, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

GAR
Health and appearance of Michael Jackson has been nominated for a community good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article.Quaffel (talk) 21:02, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
 * I've been meaning to do a GAR for a while, so this is timely, but what exactly is your goal with a reassessment? To be upfront, I don't think the article should be a GA anymore but I'd be a little surprised if that is your intention in creating the GAR. Alyo  (chat·edits) 21:06, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

DYK for 1971 Howard Bison men's soccer team
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 12 February 2022 (UTC)

WP:AFC Helper News
Hello! I wanted to drop a quick note for all of our AFC participants; nothing huge and fancy like a newsletter, but a few points of interest. Short and sweet, but there's always more to discuss at WT:AFC. Stop on by, maybe review a draft on the way? Whether you're one of our top reviewers, or haven't reviewed in a while, I want to thank you for helping out in the past and in the future. Cheers, Primefac, via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 15:59, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
 * AFCH will now show live previews of the comment to be left on a decline.
 * The template db-afc-move has been created - this template is similar to db-move when there is a redirect in the way of an acceptance, but specifically tells the patrolling admin to let you (the draft reviewer) take care of the actual move.

Help Wanted
I would be happy tonhave help on any ofnthese that interest you. Much obliged.


 * Draft:Kansas City Sun
 * Draft:They Know Their Groceries
 * Draft:Fight That Ghost
 * Draft:Tarboro High
 * Draft:Democracy Prep Public Schools
 * Draft:Maya Jayapal
 * Draft:Mount Morris Ascension Presbyterian Church
 * Draft:Mt. Olivet Baptist Church
 * Draft:Rudolph Bent
 * Draft:Ken Renard
 * Draft:The Colored Citizen
 * Draft:Joshua Henry Jones
 * Draft:John Wayne Niles
 * Draft:Julian T. Bailey
 * Draft:Bay Springs High School
 * Draft:William Pizor
 * Draft:She's Too Mean for Me
 * Draft:Academy for Classical Education
 * Draft:Langston High School (Arkansas)
 * Draft:William H. Tunnard
 * Draft:Thomas Frazer (professor)
 * Draft:The Phrenologist Coon
 * Draft:High School of Charleston
 * Draft:Yamekraw
 * Draft:James J. Vaughan
 * Draft:Godson Orélus FloridaArmy (talk) 02:50, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi, looks good. I've created a subpage in my sandbox here that I'm copying this list into. Feel free to add things there (or create a list on your own userpage or subpage that you update), and I'll check on them as I have time! Alyo  (chat·edits) 03:48, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

Question from Naka2k19 (16:00, 8 March 2022)
what gender are you --Naka2k19 (talk) 16:00, 8 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi @Naka2k19, I'm cis male. Alyo  (chat·<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">edits</b>) 16:17, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

PGL Major Stockholm 2021
Hello,

I was notified about the reverting of changes I made to that page. May I know if it is a mistake?

Yours sincerely Kyro2 (talk) 17:23, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi, thanks for leaving a message. I undid primarily because I thought the change you made to DBL Poney's row was a mistake and there was no edit summary, but I just realized that the points could be deducted or decay. You can go ahead and make that change again, but do please use an edit summary in the future so other editors can understand what you're doing. Thank you! Alyo  (<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">chat</b>·<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">edits</b>) 20:11, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I see, will do Kyro2 (talk) 13:18, 28 March 2022 (UTC)

Question from Gentumanny (17:15, 29 March 2022)
Who’s playing match now --Gentumanny (talk) 17:15, 29 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi @Gentumanny, I don't understand what you're asking about. Alyo  (<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">chat</b>·<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">edits</b>) 17:31, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

It’s seems you don’t have all system search here  Gentumanny (talk) 17:36, 29 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Hmm, I'm still not sure what you're trying to do. Are you trying to search for a specific topic? Wikipedia's search doesn't work like Google's, so you have to have a general idea of which page you're trying to get to. Alyo  (<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">chat</b>·<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">edits</b>) 17:38, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

Tech News: 2022-16
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 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).
 * Octicons-sync.svg Some wikis will be in read-only for a few minutes because of a switch of their main database. It will be performed on at 07:00 UTC (targeted wikis) and on  at 7:00 UTC (targeted wikis).
 * Administrators will now have the option to delete/undelete the associated "Talk" page when they are deleting a given page. An API endpoint with this option is also available. This concludes the 11th wish of the 2021 Community Wishlist Survey.
 * On selected wikis, 50% of logged-in users will see the new table of contents. When scrolling up and down the page, the table of contents will stay in the same place on the screen. This is part of the Desktop Improvements project.
 * Octicons-tools.svg Message boxes produced by MediaWiki code will no longer have these CSS classes:,  ,  . The styles for those classes and   will be removed from MediaWiki core. This only affects wikis that use these classes in wikitext, or change their appearance within site-wide CSS. Please review any local usage and definitions for these classes you may have. This was previously announced in the 28 February issue of Tech News.

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 * Kartographer will become compatible with FlaggedRevisions page stabilization. Kartographer maps will also work on pages with pending changes. The Kartographer documentation has been thoroughly updated.

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23:10, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Question from BANNYTz on Help:Getting started (21:44, 20 April 2022)
I want to create the page --BANNYTz (talk) 21:44, 20 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Hello @BANNYTz, I assume from this edit that you're looking to create a page about Banny? You can use the Article Wizard, which will guide you through the process of starting a new page, but please note that Wikipedia is not for promotion, and the article will only be accepted if you include multiple independent sources discussing Banny in some detail. For example, magazine profiles or music reviews would work. However, links to her social media or record label will not be enough. Alyo  (<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">chat</b>·<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">edits</b>) 00:50, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

PGL Stockholm Major flags
Hello Alyo! I'm leaving this message so we can resolve the issue on the PGL Stockholm page regarding flags.

In your last changelog you state that you removed the flags due to it being "It's actively against policy" and "we're slowly removing the flags from the other articles", yet you show no link to what this "policy" is, nor have made any edits to the other major pages.

If it is indeed the "policy", where can I find that, and if the flags are actually being slowly removed as you say, why haven't they been. As far as I am concerned, it is standard to keep the flags as they are in every other major page.

Thanks! --JaacTreee (talk) 20:36, 21 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi @JaacTreee, sure thing, thanks for asking. So I referenced this in the esports project discussion, but MOS:SPORTFLAG says that "Flags should never indicate the player's nationality in a non-sporting sense; flags should only indicate the sportsperson's national squad/team or representative nationality." In other words, we use flags when a player is representing "Team USA" or "Team Sweden", but not when they just happen to be representing a Swedish organization, or are five Swedes playing in the same team. There are a whole bunch of reasons for this, but the gist is that the small bit of information conveyed (the players nationality) is outweighed by the inevitable disputes about whether a player or team should have the flag of X or Y country, particularly when the team is not actually representing that country in an official capacity. I know it's the norm to include the information on sites like HLTV, but the relevant policy section about flags is very restrictive on their use. You can also see the comment left by @Pbrks for another opinion. The reason other articles still have flags is just because I'm basically the only editor going back and cleaning those articles up, and I haven't had the time yet. If you want to start removing those though, it's a good project! Alyo  (<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">chat</b>·<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">edits</b>) 13:55, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
 * To follow up on this, there is also WP:FLAGINFOBOX. I have removed flags from other esports event pages as well, such as 2021 Call of Duty League season, 2021 Valorant Champions, and Intel Extreme Masters Fall 2021 Europe. It is a very time-consuming process (since I tend to also remove a lot of WP:FANCRUFT while I'm at it), which is why I haven't more aggressive on removing them from other pages. I'm sure I will in the future, but there is no deadline, so I'm fine with it being a little drawn-out. – Pbrks (t • c) 22:34, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

Question from Salsavocal (08:46, 25 April 2022)
how can my biography be seen on google --Salsavocal (talk) 08:46, 25 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Hello @Salsavocal, what page are you talking about? As a general rule though, Wikipedia is not a place to write about yourself or promote your own endeavors, and we have rules in place that say that independent reliable sources (like newspapers or books) need to have covered you or your business before it can have a Wikipedia article. Alyo  (<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">chat</b>·<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">edits</b>) 13:54, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

Bob Hope stars on the Blvd
Dear Alyo,

It was prudent of you to revert my images of Bob Hope stars from the Hollywood Walk of Fame. Difficult locations of Bob Hope stars and their poor condition does not really help taking a good image. For example, I personally cleaned all three Frank Sinatra stars, as well as the newly added Red Hot Chili Peppers star, before taking those pictures. Stars on the Blvd are never clean enough (due to dust, dirt, weather, thousands of tourists stepping on stars daily, often dropping food and drinks, damaging, vandalizing, and causing other problems resulting in wear and tear. Bob Hope stars are near popular restaurants, thus the wear and tear. However, when these and other stars will be restored to shining glory, their images may be useful to illustrate and further enhance Wikipedia. I'll be glad to contribute these and other images, just let me know.

All the best! Steve shelok  honov  22:28, 29 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi @Steveshelokhonov, thanks for leaving a note and for your photography work! I'm always glad to see better quality images where possible, but the other thing I want to point out is our policy on image placement and number, which says to "Strive for variety" and that we should generally "Resist the temptation to overwhelm an article with images of marginal value simply because many images are available." The Walk of Fame is the exact type of article where that bit of advice is useful, because images of the stars are extremely easy to take, and so many of the stars correspond to interesting/beloved entertainers whose fans may want that star on the page. At the moment we have seven images of single stars (eight if we count File:Matt Damon Star Under Construction.jpg, but that's a little different) and I think we should only add more images where the visual itself shows the reader something unique or interesting (a la Monty Woolley's faulty star). I think it's certainly interesting to show an example of someone with multiple stars, but since we have the Frank Sinatra set I'm not sure that we need to try to fit in Bob's four, or Gene's five--then the article just becomes a slideshow! Alyo  (<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">chat</b>·<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">edits</b>) 16:30, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi @ Alyo, and thank you for a thoughtful message.


 * I may tend to agree that Frank Sinatra set of stars is quite enough for this article for now. We do not need to have a slideshow, or a comics styled article. But, at the same time, wikipedia is so comprehensive, illustrative and, as a result, so popular, because millions of appropriate pictures do perfectly support the textual content. On a practical note, it is really not that easy to take good photos of some stars on the sidewalk due to the problems mentioned in my original message. It really took me hours of walking, waiting for the right light, and cleaning the dirt and food droppings off of three Frank Sinatra stars before taking about fifty shots, of which only three resulted in producing good images. There is so much interference caused by the crowds, the traffic related to businesses, the light related to the time of the day and weather, and other factors and obstructions. One of the Frank Sinatra stars is located at the entrance to a very busy grocery store, so that star is always badly contaminated. I manually cleaned that star thoroughly before taking photos, while at the same time I was sustaining multiple interferences from strangers. Again, stars on the Blvd are never clean enough due to dust, dirt, weather, thousands of tourists stepping on stars daily, often dropping food and drinks, damaging, vandalizing, obstructing and causing other problems resulting in wear and tear. However, when these and other stars will be restored to shining glory, their images may be useful to illustrate Wikipedia.


 * And in the end, the stars are the quintessence of the Hollywood walk of fame. This is the biggest in the world visual tribute to thousands of notable entertainers. An also, the stars are the main attraction for millions of tourists coming here from all over the planet to see and enjoy the place. Thus images of some notable stars may be a bonus to Wikipedia. Indeed, illustrating this and other articles adequately and in a thoughtful manner is a good way to enhance Wikipedia.


 * All the best! Steve  shelok  honov  19:11, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

Question from TrevQue on Emily Cox (actress) (22:27, 1 May 2022)
How do I upload a picture to edit a page --TrevQue (talk) 22:27, 1 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Hello @TrevQue, I would encourage you to look at Help:Uploading images, which will walk you through the information you need to know. The key piece though is that for an article like Emily Cox, you need to own the photo or know that it has been freely released. In other words, you cannot just go to Google images, take one of those photos of her, and then reupload it to Wikipedia--that photo is likely under copyright and we can't use it. However, if you have taken your own photo of Cox or you've found a photo that's been freely released, you can use the Commons Upload Wizard. Hope this helps! Alyo  (<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">chat</b>·<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">edits</b>) 16:21, 2 May 2022 (UTC)

Question from The Achieng' (10:02, 7 May 2022)
How do i delete an article i just created --The Achieng&#39; (talk) 10:02, 7 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Hello @The Achieng', it looks like you've already blanked your userpage, but if you want to actually have the page deleted fully (so that the page history isn't publicly available), you can use one of our "speedy delete" criteria by pasting Db-g7 (with the curly brackets) onto the page. Alyo  (<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">chat</b>·<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">edits</b>) 18:31, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you The Achieng&#39; (talk) 12:01, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

Tech News: 2022-20
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18:56, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

Question from Dr.Hippo India (02:41, 17 May 2022)
How to create a wiki page --Dr.Hippo India (talk) 02:41, 17 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Hello @Dr.Hippo India, you can use the Article Wizard, which will guide you through the process of starting a new page. However, I see based on your username that you may represent or be affiliated with some kind of business, so please note that Wikipedia is not for promotion, and the article will only be accepted if you include multiple independent sources discussing the topic in some detail. For example, magazine profiles or music reviews would work. Alyo  (<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">chat</b>·<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">edits</b>) 17:25, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

"Source doesn't say second"
Yes I am aware it does not, but if you read the note, 2nd is the average between all the people. Mwiqdoh (talk) 06:17, 25 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi @Mwiqdoh, please read WP:SYNTH, which explicitly prohibits combining "different parts of one source to reach or imply a conclusion not explicitly stated by the source". Averaging the various predictions to reach a new prediction is precisely the kind of thing we cannot do. Thanks, Alyo  (<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">chat</b>·<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">edits</b>) 14:22, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

Question from NWCassidy (16:22, 26 May 2022)
Hi Alyo. I signed up to edit because I was looking at Folsom Field and past concerts listed for that venue. The page indicates the Rolling Stones played there in October 1981, but it doesn't include the opening acts for that show (Heart, George Thorogood). But now that I've created an account, I realize that my attendance at that show and my first-person testimony is likely not an acceptable source because it isn't published. If so, I guess I'll look for another source in my spare time. Thanks, NWCassidy --NWCassidy (talk) 16:22, 26 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi @NWCassidy, and welcome to Wikipedia! You're exactly correct that as a general rule, personal knowledge isn't enough to verify information. Thank you for realizing that--a big cornerstone of WP is that information be cited to a reliable source that other readers can find. Alyo  (<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">chat</b>·<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">edits</b>) 16:35, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

Question from Ethan0431 (14:26, 28 May 2022)
G'day, I'm working on a few articles and I'm just in need of assistance with doing referencing again. I'm also working on a article that hasn't been published, you can let me know and I can always publish it for you to assist in working on it. Regards, Ethan. --Ethan0431 (talk) 14:26, 28 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi I'm happy to help, what kinds of questions do you have about references? If your second question is about the Instant Influencers draft, I agree with the comments left by the reviewers so far: it really needs more sources and coverage in reliable, independent publications, which I don't see at the moment.   Alyo  (<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">chat</b>·<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">edits</b>) 21:22, 30 May 2022 (UTC)


 * G’day @ALYO, thanks for that info. That’s the difficult thing about referencing most of the information I found was on YouTube because that’s where the show has been published aswell as some articles on PopBuzz to. If you can help and jump in and add references feel free to. If you also want to touch base in a Online Meeting to just let me know! Regards, Ethan. Ethan0431 (talk) 22:27, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Right, so unfortunately, youtube videos are almost never acceptable as sources/never considered "reliable" because, obviously, anyone can upload them. The exception would be a video uploaded by a known organization, like CNN, but otherwise editors will simply remove those links. Vulture and Variety are both considered reliable sources for entertainment topics, so those are good starts, but that leads to the odd situation where the "Controversy" section is really the only section with good sourcing. So you understand why other reviewers might think the show isn't the notable aspect of the article here, James is. I think if you can find one more good source about the show itself (it's launch, it's content, coverage of season 2) in one of the sources that the community considers reliable, the article will be good enough to be accepted, although some of the promotional content will have to be trimmed. Alyo  (<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">chat</b>·<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">edits</b>) 15:18, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

Question from HappyGoose12 (17:28, 7 June 2022)
Hello, I'm new to Wikipedia. Can I create my own source/page? --HappyGoose12 (talk) 17:28, 7 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi there @HappyGoose12, welcome to Wikipedia. What are you trying to create? We usually use "source" to mean an external piece of information, like a newspaper or book, that editors cite to in order to verify information on Wikipedia. As far as creating a "page", I assume you mean a new article. You can indeed create a new article, but you should be aware of some requirements that we have for new articles. The subject of the article should be covered by multiple independent, reliable sources (like the newspapers or books that I mentioned before). On the other hand, Wikipedia is not meant to be a place to promote say, yourself or a business, and those articles will quickly get deleted. A good way to start is to go through the WP:Article Wizard. Does that help? Alyo  (<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">chat</b>·<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">edits</b>) 17:33, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

DYK nomination of ENCE
Hello! Your submission of ENCE at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at your nomination's entry and respond there at your earliest convenience. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! FacetsOfNonStickPans (talk) 10:54, 14 June 2022 (UTC)

New page reviewer granted
Hi Alyo. Your account has been added to the " " user group. Please check back at WP:PERM in case your user right is time limited or probationary. This user group allows you to review new pages through the Curation system and mark them as patrolled, tag them for maintenance issues, or nominate them for deletion. The list of articles awaiting review is located at the New Pages Feed. New page reviewing is vital to maintaining the integrity of the encyclopedia. If you have not already done so, you must read the tutorial at New Pages Review, the linked guides and essays, and fully understand the deletion policy. If you need any help or want to discuss the process, you are welcome to use the new page reviewer talk page. In addition, please remember: The reviewer right does not change your status or how you can edit articles. If you no longer want this user right, you also may ask any administrator to remove it for you at any time. In cases of abuse or persistent inaccuracy of reviewing, or long-term inactivity, the right may be withdrawn at administrator discretion.  Arbitrarily0  ( talk ) 05:51, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
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Nomination of Ence (esports) for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Ence (esports) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Ence (esports) until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished. Bash7oven (talk) 07:16, 21 June 2022 (UTC)

Busy
Alyo, you say you are busy. Some of the ways you edit aren't correct. You can avoid the past tense as I have done with editing about the film.Pictureperfect2 (talk) 10:10, 21 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi @Pictureperfect2, I'm not quite sure what you're talking about, but just so you know, we generally refer to works of art in the present tense, as they still exist. You can say "The film was released..." because that happened at a previous moment in time, but we also would say "The film is directed..." or "The book is written..." Look at something like Great Expectations: "Great Expectations is the thirteenth novel...", "The novel is set in Kent..", etc. Additionally, having seen some of your edits, I just want to let you know that you were incorrectly removing the final comma from non-essential clauses. For example, in Finding Jack Charlton, you removed the final comma from this sentence: However, the clause  is a non-essential clause because the sentence  stands on its own. Thus, the list needs to end in a comma to set off the end of the non-essential clause.  Alyo  (<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">chat</b>·<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">edits</b>) 13:41, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
 * @Pictureperfect2 There are a few more examples of you removing required commas from non-essential clauses here, here , here ), and here . I've bolded the appositive clause in these, and in these edits you just removed one of the two commas around the clause. Please see MOS:COMMA: . Your edits are very helpful on the whole, but this is one issue that I noticed. Alyo  (<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">chat</b>·<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">edits</b>) 14:34, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
 * As my name says perfection is something to achieve. I think you noticed there are only about two ways to say an individual lived in a location or place. They either spent time or lived there. For whatever reason I don't like the phrase "spent time" much. You can also say someone lived somewhere from 2016 to 2019 for example (or three years). Would you look at the articles for Russell Crowe, Jennifer Lawrence, Nicki Minaj, Pablo Schreiber, Dakota Johnson, and Jason Statham?Pictureperfect2 (talk) 18:47, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
 * @Pictureperfect2 Again, I'm not quite sure what you're referring to in regards to people living in a certain location. I don't disagree with most of your edits. Is there one of your edits that I reverted that you disagree with? Otherwise the only thing I'm telling you is not to remove commas from non-essential clauses, like I outlined above. The rest of your copyedits seem generally helpful. I'm not going to look over those articles unless you tell me what specifically to look for, or what you want a second opinion on? Alyo  (<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">chat</b>·<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">edits</b>) 19:16, 21 June 2022 (UTC)

You're not going to make this too simple, I see. One, you have made errors and I was sidestepping those. As you know the mission of Wikipedia is "encyclopedia building". Saying you're not going to do something is not part of that. I saw you are or were heavily a "technical type of editor" and I have never even edited tables.

Two, the reason for asking you to "look" at or even edit those articles is because I have identified dozens of articles that have incorrect editing. The Schreiber one is a key example. What are you willing to do? Other than edit articles about gaming and to continue your "technical" style?Pictureperfect2 (talk) 19:26, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Sorry, but I have little interest in editing those articles. You can ask other people on the talk pages of those articles, or at one of the WikiProjects listed on the talk pages. I also am not sure what you mean by "technical" editor. (Do you mean that I work on the technical side of Wikipedia? or that I am focused on technical perfection? I don't consider either of these true so I'm truly confused.) With regard to any errors I've made, I appreciate you correcting them. However, you don't seem to be able to clearly explain what the errors are, so again I ask, is there one of your edits that I reverted that should not have been reverted? Alyo  (<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">chat</b>·<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">edits</b>) 19:58, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
 * I was asking if you would help edit Pablo Schreiber because it needs help. I can't go look for people or find them. For example the Schreiber article is being expanded rapidly and some of the material is superfluous.Pictureperfect2 (talk) 20:45, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
 * I see no issues with the expansion. If you disagree with the edits, you should leave a comment on the talk page. Let me know when you do, and I'll take a look at any specific issues you bring up. Alyo  (<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">chat</b>·<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">edits</b>) 22:04, 21 June 2022 (UTC)

New Page Patrol newsletter June 2022
Hello ,

At the time of the last newsletter (No.27, May 2022), the backlog was approaching 16,000, having shot up rapidly from 6,000 over the prior two months. The attention the newsletter brought to the backlog sparked a flurry of activity. There was new discussion on process improvements, efforts to invite new editors to participate in NPP increased and more editors requested the NPP user right so they could help, and most importantly, the number of reviews picked up and the backlog decreased, dipping below 14,000 at the end of May.
 * Backlog status

Since then, the news has not been so good. The backlog is basically flat, hovering around 14,200. I wish I could report the number of reviews done and the number of new articles added to the queue. But the available statistics we have are woefully inadequate. The only real number we have is the net queue size.

In the last 30 days, the top 100 reviewers have all made more than 16 patrols (up from 8 last month), and about 70 have averaged one review a day (up from 50 last month).

While there are more people doing more reviews, many of the ~730 with the NPP right are doing little. Most of the reviews are being done by the top 50 or 100 reviewers. They need your help. We appreciate every review done, but please aim to do one a day (on average, or 30 a month).

A backlog reduction drive, coordinated by buidhe and Zippybonzo, will be held from July 1 to July 31. Sign up here. Barnstars will be awarded.
 * Backlog drive

Many new articles on schools are being created by new users in developing and/or non-English-speaking countries. The authors are probably not even aware of Wikipedia's projects and policy pages. WP:WPSCH/AG has some excellent advice and resources specifically written for these users. Reviewers could consider providing such first-time article creators with a link to it while also mentioning that not all schools pass the GNG and that elementary schools are almost certainly not notable.
 * TIP – New school articles

There is a new template available,, to show the current backlog. You can place it on your user or talk page as a reminder:
 * Misc

There has been significant discussion at WP:VPP recently on NPP-related matters (Draftification, Deletion, Notability, Verifiability, Burden). Proposals that would somewhat ease the burden on NPP aren't gaining much traction, although there are suggestions that the role of NPP be fundamentally changed to focus only on major CSD-type issues.


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DYK for Les Hijabeuses
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DYK for Ence (esports)
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NPP July 2022 backlog drive is on!
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Question from KingAviationKid (20:03, 12 July 2022)
hey alyo i hope you are better than epicpupper cuz i need help. blaze wolf has been gone for months and some of my articles have stayed on, but others are being deleted due to lack of available refs. i believe Rada Airlines needs an article as it is a relatively well mentioned, however 1976 LAB Boeing 707 Crash and MV Bali Sea have stayed longer, one made for a task and one to fill a gap seen in many articles. also, tell me, why is wikipedia so biased toward ukraine and they call these fake lies and russophobic media claims "reliable sources" --KingAviationKid (talk) 20:03, 12 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi @KingAviationKid, I'm not sure what exactly your question is. You're working on Draft:Rada Airlines, but as I see it right now it doesn't pass our general notability guideline. The single planelogger source probably isn't sufficient. You say it's well mentioned--can you add those links or sources? It's fine if they're in another language, as long as they're still reliable and independent. I do not understand what that has to do with a bias towards Ukraine. Alyo  (<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">chat</b>·<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">edits</b>) 18:28, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I can only find two english sources unless I spend hours digging in the internet, but my translator can only translate limited words so it takes forever. I'd have to pay to sign in to do more than 20 at a time and I can't afford a subscription nor do I have an email adress. The Ukraine bias is something ive been trying to ask for a 3 months. Epicpupper just gave some dumb answer saying "Oh, Wikipedia is written only with reliable sources", and Vukky didn't reply at all. I am just asking you why is wikipedia using news and media outlets which are full of lies of the left and propaganda and considering them reliable. KingAviationKid (talk) 19:03, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
 * @KingAviationKid Unfortunately a cornerstone of wikipedia is that articles must be verifiable and sourced. Those foreign language sources might be acceptable, but if you don't add them then it's very unlikely that the article will be accepted. Is this the discussion with Epicpupper you're talking about? While you might not like the answer, the idea that Wikipedia only publishes content that has been published elsewhere in reliable sources is one of its foundational policies. If you can't accept that, then you won't get very far as an editor. If you disagree with calling certain outlets reliable you can bring that up at the WP:Reliable sources/Noticeboard, but saying "this mainstream news source is too leftist" won't be very persuasive. Alyo  (<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">chat</b>·<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">edits</b>) 19:42, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

I saw lot of articles that Add Dr
You said no need Dr Naduz (talk) 15:45, 19 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi @Naduz, this specifically is about the infobox. If you see "Dr." in the infobox, that should usually be removed. Does that makes sense? Alyo  (<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">chat</b>·<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">edits</b>) 15:46, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

Why that ? Naduz (talk) 15:46, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

Dr is correct? [[User:Naduz|Naduz (talk) 15:48, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
 * The infobox is specifically for the most important facts about a person. Having a doctorate is fairly common, or at least common enough that Wikipedia has decided it doesn't need to be in the infobox. That fact can be listed elsewhere in the page, but isn't considered an "honorific" in that sense. Alyo  (<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">chat</b>·<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">edits</b>) 15:51, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

But I saw lot of persons Wikipedia Dr is in infobox ? Naduz (talk) 15:53, 19 July 2022 (UTC)


 * That doesn't make it ok in the Iqbal article. Alyo  (<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">chat</b>·<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">edits</b>) 16:11, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
 * @Naduz to pile on late, but Alyo is correct. WP:DOCTOR is an academic / professional title, and should only be used when it's the person is commonly addressed with that title.  The example given is Dr. Ruth, but also Dr. John. Dr. Dre, Dr. Rajkumar as examples.  Those individuals are commonly addressed and it's their pseudonym.  That doesn't apply here, so it shouldn't be included.  You can also look at the template's documentation Infobox person#Parameters which calls out for the honorific_prefix parameter "do not use it for routine things like "Dr." or "Ms."". Having "Sir" in the honorific_prefix and at the start of the article lead is appropriate though, see MOS:SIR. Hope this helps some.  Ravensfire  (talk) 20:19, 21 July 2022 (UTC)

Additions to an existing page
I went to high school with a lady who has a page on Wikipedia. Where she went to high school and what name she went by then are not listed.

May I add those? Jadusa (talk) 17:35, 20 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi @Jadusa, Wikipedia generally doesn't allow you to add information based on personal knowledge--we call that original research. You can add that information if you find it published elsewhere, by reliable sources. This is especially true for biographies of living people, which WP is even more strict about. Alyo  (<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">chat</b>·<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">edits</b>) 17:57, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Received and understood. Jadusa (talk) 18:08, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

I have unreviewed a page you curated
Hi, I'm CollectiveSolidarity. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, DXFH, and have marked it as unreviewed. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you.

(Message delivered via the Page Curation tool, on behalf of the reviewer.)

CollectiveSolidarity (talk) 17:42, 20 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi @CollectiveSolidarity, did you have a specific reason you marked that page as unreviewed? The page appears to pass WP:NRADIO even if the current sourcing isn't great. Alyo  (<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">chat</b>·<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">edits</b>) 17:52, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
 * @Alyo NRADIO appears to be an essay on the possibility of a radio station being notable, and the GNG still applies. I did a WP:BEFORE and checked for sources, and I only found some advertisements and social media posts. I also tried "MOR 98.7 For Life!" and got the same thing. The current source doesn’t even mention DXFH at all, only its parent company. Because of this, I do not think that the subject is notable. CollectiveSolidarity (talk) 18:11, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
 * @CollectiveSolidarity hmm, why not nominate it for AfD then? FWIW, the only reason that page was in the NPP queue is because it was converted into a redirect for a single day--it's otherwise a long-standing article. Based on the amount of coverage generated by the denial of the parent company's license (see ABS-CBN franchise renewal controversy) I tend to think the stations would pass the GNG based on Filipino coverage, so I'm just confused what the "error" is. I'll go ahead and mark it as reviewed again then, unless you want to nominate the MOR stations for deletion or redirection (probably to here). Anyway, happy patrolling! Alyo  (<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">chat</b>·<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">edits</b>) 19:35, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
 * @Alyo. Yeah, I saw coverage of the controversy while looking for sources, but it is mostly around the parent company and only trivially around the stations themselves. I am going to convert them into redirects unless you think that there is some Filipino coverage I should account for. Thanks, CollectiveSolidarity (talk) 19:42, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Ehh, I imagine there is, but I wouldn't object to anyone converting them to redirects. All of these (except DWRR-FM) are permastubs. Alyo  (<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">chat</b>·<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">edits</b>) 19:49, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

I have unreviewed a page you curated
Hi, I'm CollectiveSolidarity. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, DYMC-FM, and have marked it as unreviewed. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you.

(Message delivered via the Page Curation tool, on behalf of the reviewer.)

CollectiveSolidarity (talk) 17:46, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

Question from 28 follower (19:55, 23 July 2022)
how to start an article --28 follower (talk) 19:55, 23 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Hello @28 follower, you may be interested in the WP:Article Wizard. Please note that the subject of the article should be covered by multiple independent, reliable sources (like newspapers or books ). On the other hand, Wikipedia is not meant to be a place to promote say, yourself or a business, and those articles will quickly get deleted. Alyo  (<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">chat</b>·<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">edits</b>) 02:47, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

Question from Taylorltreybig (12:38, 25 July 2022)
How do you create a Wikipedia page? --Taylorltreybig (talk) 12:38, 25 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Hello @Taylorltreybig, you may be interested in the WP:Article Wizard, which will guide you through the process. Please note that the subject of the article should be covered by multiple independent, reliable sources (like news organizations or books). On the other hand, Wikipedia is not meant to be a place to just promote say, yourself or a business, and those articles will quickly get deleted. Alyo  (<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">chat</b>·<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">edits</b>) 13:29, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

Great, thank you. Yes I was just curious on the process. I wanted to start editing Wikipedia pages to help make it greater. However I was interested in the process of creation of pages. I know there is a rule about creating pages about yourself, but was wondering about the process for creation of one about my journey, as I have a book published and music released. I have a google knowledge panel they randomly created for me, and I know they take a lot of info from Wikipedia. Is that something you could create?

Nevertheless though, I want to continue to learn the system and help editing others pages. Taylorltreybig (talk) 13:34, 25 July 2022 (UTC)


 * @Taylorltreybig, you're right, autobiographies are discouraged for a variety of reasons. In general, it's very hard to ask people to be objective about coverage about themselves, as I'm sure you can imagine. So for example, have you been covered by 2-3 reliable sources who discussed you in detail? Has your music met one of these 12 criteria? Or is your book widely cited by peers or the primary subject of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews? If you can't answer yes to one of these questions, the article will not meet our notability standards. A google knowledge panel will not help for the purposes of WP's notability rules, but I hope these give you an idea of what you would need. If you want, you can post the best few references you would have and I can tell you what the result would likely be. Alyo  (<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">chat</b>·<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">edits</b>) 13:50, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

Great, thank you for the information. I will pull together something’s and send it over! Taylorltreybig (talk) 14:01, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

Question from Usuariomoderno (14:48, 4 August 2022)
Consulto. Cómo crear un artículo sobre una persona? --Usuariomoderno (talk) 14:48, 4 August 2022 (UTC)


 * @Usuariomoderno I'm sorry, no hablo español :( Alyo  (<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">chat</b>·<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">edits</b>) 15:03, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

New Page Patrol newsletter August 2022
Hello ,

After the last newsletter (No.28, June 2022), the backlog declined another 1,000 to 13,000 in the last week of June. Then the July backlog drive began, during which 9,900 articles were reviewed and the backlog fell by 4,500 to just under 8,500 (these numbers illustrate how many new articles regularly flow into the queue). Thanks go to the coordinators and, as well as all the nearly 100 participants. Congratulations to who led with 880 points. See this page for further details.
 * Backlog status

Unfortunately, most of the decline happened in the first half of the month, and the backlog has already risen to 9,600. Understandably, it seems many backlog drive participants are taking a break from reviewing and unfortunately, we are not even keeping up with the inflow let alone driving it lower. We need the other 600 reviewers to do more! Please try to do at least one a day.


 * Coordination: and  have taken on some of the coordination tasks. Please let them know if you are interested in helping out.  will be handling recognition, and will be retroactively awarding the annual barnstars that have not been issued for a few years.


 * Open letter to the WMF: The Page Curation software needs urgent attention. There are dozens of bug fixes and enhancements that are stalled (listed at Suggested improvements). We have written a letter to be sent to the WMF and we encourage as many patrollers as possible to sign it here. We are also in negotiation with the Board of Trustees to press for assistance. Better software will make the active reviewers we have more productive.


 * TIP - Reviewing by subject: Reviewers who prefer to patrol new pages by their most familiar subjects can do so from the regularly updated sorted topic list.


 * New reviewers: The NPP School is being underused. The learning curve for NPP is quite steep, but a detailed and easy-to-read tutorial exists, and the Curation Tool's many features are fully described and illustrated on the updated page here.


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Question from White Oxfordian (22:45, 2 September 2022)
Hello there, I am wondering, how do I add an entry? --White Oxfordian (talk) 22:45, 2 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Hello @White Oxfordian, I assume you are asking about how to start a new page? You may find the WP:Article Wizard helpful, as it will guide you through the process. Please note that the subject of the article should be covered by multiple independent, reliable sources (like news organizations or books). On the other hand, Wikipedia is not meant to be a place to just promote say, yourself or a business, and those articles will quickly get deleted. Alyo  (<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">chat</b>·<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">edits</b>) 22:58, 2 September 2022 (UTC)

Hi sir/ma'am
Hi sir/ma'am Alyo (talk) i know you are my new mentor so hi to you.😊😁
 * Hi there nice to meet you :) Don't forget to sign your comments with four tildes, like this: ~ It will automatically insert your username, so that other people know who they're talking to.  Alyo  (<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">chat</b>·<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">edits</b>) 00:32, 3 September 2022 (UTC)

Ok sir/ma'am User:Alyo (talk) Einahr (talk) 00:36, 3 September 2022 (UTC)


 * @Einahr Perfect! Alyo  (<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">chat</b>·<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">edits</b>) 00:48, 3 September 2022 (UTC)

Thank you😊 Alyo (talk) Einahr (talk) 00:52, 3 September 2022 (UTC)

Board of Trustees election
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Question from Lidworld (14:23, 6 September 2022)
Hello, How can I upload informations on Wikipedia? --Lidworld (talk) 14:23, 6 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Hello @Lidworld, what kind of information do you mean? Pictures? or written information/articles? Alyo  (<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">chat</b>·<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">edits</b>) 13:16, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

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Question from Hitoodesai on User talk:Firefly (07:28, 13 September 2022)
I created the wiki page of the chief secretary of the state of Maharashtra in India. the page is publish, but when I do the Google search the search result doesn't show this page as it shows for other topics in the first item.

Can you please help me with this.. --Hitoodesai (talk) 07:28, 13 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Hello @Hitoodesai, you're talking about Manu Kumar Srivastava? Wikipedia has no control over how the google crawlers work. Alyo  (<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">chat</b>·<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">edits</b>) 13:08, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

Question from Allenjonesinsurancetx (17:37, 15 September 2022)
How Do I add My business on wilkipedia? --Allenjonesinsurancetx (talk) 17:37, 15 September 2022 (UTC)


 * @Allenjonesinsurancetx Wikipedia is not a place to advertise your business. Articles are only written about businesses when they are the subject of coverage by multiple independent reliable sources. In other words, press releases and similar fluff doesn't count. Alyo  (<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">chat</b>·<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">edits</b>) 17:49, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

October 2022 New Pages Patrol backlog drive
(t &#183; c)  buidhe  21:16, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

Question from TensleyAldridge (15:41, 29 September 2022)
how can i create a new wikipedia page --TensleyAldridge (talk) 15:41, 29 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Hello @TensleyAldridge, you may find the WP:Article Wizard helpful, as it will guide you through the process. Please note that the subject of the article should be covered by multiple independent, reliable sources (like news organizations or books). On the other hand, Wikipedia is not meant to be a place to just promote say, yourself or a business, and those articles will quickly get deleted. Alyo  (<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">chat</b>·<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">edits</b>) 15:43, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

Charlie Pierce edit
Hi Alyo!

Can you please explain why you deleted my contribution to the Charlie Pierce page. Do you believe anything written is incorrect? Are the references incorrect, or do they require footnotes? Thanks! barking (talk) 18:48, 29 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi @Barking1, you're talking about this edit, right? Sure, a whole host of reasons. WP:Biographies of living persons are held to a much higher standard of sourcing than other types of articles are. Your addition had no sources, but even if you cited the tweet and the politico report, the fact that he made that inference is a separate fact that would require its own source. In other words, that addition requires its own source covering the fact that he made that tweet based on a false assumption. Otherwise, you're synthesizing information in a way that is not allowed. So yes, as it stands, that edit is editorializing/WP:original research, which is why multiple editors removed it. Alyo  (<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">chat</b>·<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">edits</b>) 19:12, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi again! Thanks for your reply.  I'm clearly not as versed in the editing theory and rules, but your reply left me a bit baffled, even after I read your links (  synthesizing / original research ).
 * Can I please get a bit more clarification, specifically what in my entry was an "inference" or "interpretation?"
 * I believe my contribution was largely just a statement of fact, with sources mentioned.
 * However, if I read you correctly, even if I posted his actual tweet, you'd remove it.
 * True? barking (talk) 00:22, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Hiya @Barking1, let me take a step back. Do you have a reliable source that says "Charlie Piece tweeted X. The tweet implied something about a specific rioter that was not true". If not, you cannot add that content to his article, as it falls under the WP:Biographies of living persons policy which requires every contentious claim to be well-sourced. The specific policy is at WP:BLPSOURCES: contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced should be removed immediately and without discussion. This applies whether the material is negative, positive, neutral, or just questionable and whether it is in a biography or in some other article. The material should not be added to an article when the only sourcing is tabloid journalism. When material is both verifiable and noteworthy, it will have appeared in more reliable sources. You are correct that citing only to his own tweet would be insufficient. There are other issues with the content (the SYNTH stuff I mentioned, whether or not it is appropriate to create an entire section called "Bias" on the back of a single deleted tweet with no other commentary), but you need to presume that every addition to a political BLP needs to be extremely well sourced. That content was not.
 * As an example of how problematic this kind of content is without sourcing, if this is the tweet you're talking about, then the content you added to the article was misleading. Pierce did not tweet "It's good to be WHITE when doing crimes". He tweeted a link to an article with the headline "It's Good to Be White When You're Doing Crimes" and his now-deleted tweet made reference to "the already overstuffed It's Good to Be White When You're Criming file". Those are not the same. Alyo  (<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">chat</b>·<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">edits</b>) 18:17, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks again for your comprehensive reply - I understand the issue better.
 * However, I don't see how my content was misleading, as he DID tweet (and immediately remove) what I wrote along with the link where he wrote more about it e.g., the link to his his Esquire blog, where he wrote "...it’s impossible to imagine this kind of scenario if the detainee were Black, or of a different ideological position."
 * Per the rt.com article you provided, "... the factually challenged article was finally amended the next day,  appearing with a prominent editor’s note  stating the author had “made an incorrect assumption about the race of the suspect.” Stripped of its premise, the piece's racial theme was removed entirely.
 * Where's the controversy?
 * Isn't this a huge issue in the USA now - race-baiting, especially by the media.
 * Shouldn't people wanting to learn about a person know this stuff?
 * I FULLY understand your concerns - I just don't see the issue here, other than a bit more info, like what you sent me, be added. barking (talk) 22:14, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm starting to repeat myself, so again--it doesn't matter if you think the content was not misleading, or was correct. Content in BLPs can be "negative, positive, neutral, or just questionable" but must be sourced regardless. You can say anything you want about the importance of the issue. Those concerns don't matter if you can't source the claim, and citing to the tweet itself is not sufficient to source the claim, especially given the inferences you're making. Alyo  (<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">chat</b>·<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">edits</b>) 02:45, 2 November 2022 (UTC)

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Question from Everythingenthusiast (18:45, 6 October 2022)
how i delete a page i created? --Everythingenthusiast (talk) 18:45, 6 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Hello @Everythingenthusiast, what page are you talking about? There are some ways to delete pages, but I don't see any that you've created in your history? Alyo  (<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">chat</b>·<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">edits</b>) 19:06, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

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Thank you for becoming my mentor. I look forward! Bossming (talk) 13:56, 17 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi there @Bossming, happy to help--just let me know if you have any questions. Alyo  (<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">chat</b>·<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">edits</b>) 13:59, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I just published a new article I previously unintentionally wrote under an existing wiki. I believe wrote an unbiased article about what the company does but I also work at the company and I added the conflict of interest on Talk. Could you please check the article and give me your opinion and guidance? I will appreciate you help.
 * This article is important for us. Our company continues getting confused with a defunct Famigo company that operated in a different industry and our users get confused. We currently are incorporated as Famigo and own the domain famigo. Thank you so much! Bossming (talk) 14:05, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
 * @Bossming, Wikipedia is not meant to be a place to advertise your business, and because many companies want to have an article created, we have pretty stringent standards about what will make it. The relevant standard is listed in more detail here: A company ... is presumed notable if it has been the subject of significant coverage in multiple reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject. To not waste your time and jump to the conclusion, the Famigo draft isn't going to be accepted. Almost all of the sources are just direct copies of the EFE press release, which is not an acceptable source. The final source, the FUTBOLRED link, isn't really about Famigo--the company is just mentioned once and thus that isn't an example of "significant coverage". Again, look through the instructions here--I don't think any of the sources you have right now would meet that standard, and you need multiple that would. I think you should probably put your efforts elsewhere, as I believe there is a very small chance the article will be accepted unless you have much better sources discussing the company. Alyo  (<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">chat</b>·<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">edits</b>) 15:17, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
 * @Alyo Appreciate the feedback. The article is not meant to be an adv but the biggest issue we have is multiple sources and media mention Famigo as an Austin based company about education and we are not. That is and old defunct company and that is directly impacting our company. What do you suggest? Would a sentence edit on the old company to clarify who we are be enough for now? Can we have a short version of this new page just to update who we are?  Bossming (talk) 15:33, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
 * @Bossming Unfortunately this isn't really a question for Wikipedia. At the moment Famigo says that "The company is no longer active and the website has been taken over by another company", and adding anything more about your business would be inappropriate. As I said above, Wikipedia just isn't the right place to make sure that media organizations are getting correct information about you--Wikipedia is not a directory or a place to conduct your business. I'm not sure what you mean by Can we have a short version of this new page just to update who we are? -- we don't have different types of articles and in the absence of reliable sources discussing your business, it doesn't justify any kind of article at all. Alyo  (<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">chat</b>·<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">edits</b>) 15:57, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
 * @Alyo by "Can we have a short version of this new page just to update who we are?" I mean a disambiguation type of description or just a short bio of famigo and as we continue evolving, then add the full article and new references. Bossming (talk) 16:03, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
 * @Bossming, that sort of puts the cart before the horse: you either have multiple independent references discussing Famigo or you don't. If you have sufficient references, then you could create an article. Without sufficient references, WP doesn't have another type of "short bio" and disambiguation pages are only for distinguishing topics that actually have articles. I know this isn't the answer you want, but unless you happen to have multiple news sources (not press releases) covering the company in depth, Wikipedia is not going to be the place to resolve the issue you're having with your company's name. Trying to look for solutions on wikipedia that don't involve you finding better sources is almost certainly wasting your time, which I don't want to do. Alyo  (<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">chat</b>·<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">edits</b>) 16:17, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Understand. Right now, we have some from Miami Herald and Yahoo Finance. How many reference do you suggest and what source? Bossming (talk) 16:28, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Give me the links and I can give you more feedback. Again, the guideline is here and you'll very quickly be able to judge whether your sources are good enough. Alyo  (<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">chat</b>·<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">edits</b>) 16:34, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
 * To be clear though, if by Yahoo Finance you mean source #1 in the current draft, that's a press release. Alyo  (<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">chat</b>·<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">edits</b>) 16:37, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Here are a couple of independent sources:
 * El Nuevo Dia Newspaper: https://www.elnuevodia.com/entretenimiento/musica/notas/ivy-queen-apoya-a-una-boricua-en-la-creacion-de-una-plataforma-que-une-artistas-y-fanaticos/
 * Al Dia, independent news operated by journalists: https://aldianews.com/en/leadership/entrepreneurs/new-monetization-platform
 * Diario El Universo newspaper: https://www.eluniverso.com/entretenimiento/redes-sociales/famigo-la-plataform-que-unira-a-los-artistas-con-sus-seguidores-tendra-contenido-exclusivo-nota/
 * El Nuevo Herald, Miami, sister paper of Miami Herald by McClatchy Conglomerate including Miami Herald : https://www.elnuevoherald.com/entretenimiento/article263808518.html
 * Bossming (talk) 17:31, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Ok, you keep linking to the same EFE wire item that was published in a bunch of different places--that doesn't count as a different source. So source #1 is paywalled for me, but the text in the first paragraph is the same as el universo, which in turn is the same as yahoo finance and diario libre. That's all just the same source, published in different places. Al dia is better as far as I can tell, although I'm unfamiliar with the publisher. So you're essentially submitting with the one Al dia piece and then an iffy EFE wire item. The others don't talk about the company in a significant way. I'm not sure that will be enough, but I just fixed your AfC submission and it's now in the queue. Alyo  (<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">chat</b>·<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">edits</b>) 17:54, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
 * El Nuevo Dia is the largest newspaper in Puerto Rico and Caribbean. Appreciate your help and we will continue updating. I noticed your suggestion to publish as (entertainment company), can I change the title now? Could we use (digital content and entertainment company) ? Bossming (talk) 18:14, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
 * El Nuevo Dia is the largest newspaper in Puerto Rico and Caribbean. -- that doesn't matter, if they publish the same newswire item as el universo or yahoo finance, that all just counts as the same source. And no, you don't need to change the title now--if the article is accepted, the reviewer will automatically move it to that title. Alyo  (<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">chat</b>·<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">edits</b>) 18:25, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you and be safe. Bossming (talk) 19:00, 17 October 2022 (UTC)

The AfC article decline I sent your way
Sorry about that! I was confused when I saw your veteran status when AFCH sent the decline. I suppose my confusion was correct.

Asparagusus  (interaction)  22:44, 17 October 2022 (UTC)


 * All good! The other editor tried to add the AfD template but accidentally put   around the template. Apparently when I removed that it meant I was officially the submitter haha.  Alyo  (<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">chat</b>·<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">edits</b>) 22:48, 17 October 2022 (UTC)

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Mano De Futbol
Means Hand Football in Spanish is a passing catching Game in North America Hand Football also called Mano De Futbol or what you deleted 5-on-5 football Grant 667 (talk) 07:12, 26 October 2022 (UTC)


 * @Grant 667 I believe you, but that's not what that section was talking about. 5-on-5 american football is this. Alyo  (<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">chat</b>·<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">edits</b>) 14:43, 26 October 2022 (UTC)

Ok I was just wondering Grant 667 (talk) 15:19, 26 October 2022 (UTC)

Can I put it under Variation of Basketball then instead of football Grant 667 (talk) 13:09, 27 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Maybe, but you would need a better source, because that source was not good enough for wikipedia. Alyo  (<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">chat</b>·<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">edits</b>) 13:42, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

I do have a Mini Basketball Relay under Physed Games Grant 667 (talk) 14:06, 27 October 2022 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry, what do you mean? Can you provide a link? Alyo  (<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">chat</b>·<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">edits</b>) 14:13, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

www.physedgames.com it’s under Mini Basketball Relay Grant 667 (talk) 14:15, 27 October 2022 (UTC)


 * That site does not appear to be reliable by our standards. In fact it seems like that Mini Basketball Relay was just an idea sent in by a reader. It needs to be covered by a newspaper, magazine or other type of source. Alyo  (<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">chat</b>·<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">edits</b>) 14:37, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

www.funandgames.org/Mano de Futbol this has a lot of views Grant 667 (talk) 14:46, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

And the game 500 has that as a source Grant 667 (talk) 14:47, 27 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Having views does not make something reliable. It seems like this game was made up by one person--that's not a reason to add it to a wikipedia article. Alyo  (<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">chat</b>·<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">edits</b>) 14:49, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/500_(ball_game) Grant 667 (talk) 14:49, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

Ok I kind of didn’t want the article I think it is a variation that’s all Grant 667 (talk) 14:58, 27 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Hmmm, that physedgames source should probably not be used there either. Alyo  (<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">chat</b>·<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">edits</b>) 17:04, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

Oh ok what’s the best way to use the game Grant 667 (talk) 17:05, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

For sources just wondering Grant 667 (talk) 17:06, 27 October 2022 (UTC)


 * What do you mean "use the game"? What you need is some kind of reliable source--a book, newspaper, magazine, or online news site--discussing the games. Then they can be added to the wikipedia articles. Alyo  (<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">chat</b>·<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">edits</b>) 18:38, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

There is this website a Hanball league in the north country you can google this as well majorhandballleague.wordpress.com/ Grant 667 (talk) 09:12, 28 October 2022 (UTC)


 * The wordpress site is a blog: blogs are not reliable sources. Alyo  (<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">chat</b>·<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">edits</b>) 12:55, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

50 Covid friendly Pe games known as Mini Basketball Relay is a teachers Pay teachers book it’s in there I forgot to mention it Grant 667 (talk) 02:51, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Banned user; see Sockpuppet_investigations/Zaner25. OhNo itsJamie Talk 04:53, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Hilarious. Thanks for the heads up. Alyo  (<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">chat</b>·<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">edits</b>) 05:01, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

Question from Shahrulzaman (03:26, 28 October 2022)
Where I can get the info of car production year for suzuki --Shahrulzaman (talk) 03:26, 28 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi I'm sorry, I can only really answer questions about editing wikipedia. You might be better off googling that or looking at the various Suzuki pages. Alyo  (<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">chat</b>·<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">edits</b>) 12:58, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

Question from Panda0317 (13:58, 28 October 2022)
Hello, How do I get to create or edit pages? I want to edit and expand on the ww2 page, adding a few more headings with more important events that I feel could be placed on the ww2 page, as well as their own --Panda0317 (talk) 13:58, 28 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi there @Panda0317, welcome to wikipedia. For page creation, you may find the WP:Article Wizard helpful, as it will guide you through the process. Please note that the subject of the article should be covered by multiple independent, reliable sources (like news organizations or books). On the other hand, Wikipedia is not meant to be a place to just promote say, yourself or a business, and those articles will quickly get deleted. When it comes to editing articles, you are welcome to edit anything you want. For a topic like World War II though (I assume that's what you meant), the article is currently a "good article", which means it's already been raised to a certain standard and judged against some content criteria. Thus the editors who have worked on it may have already had discussions about which topics justify inclusion on the page, and so the best place to start might be making your suggestions on the talk page: Talk:World War II. However, you're always welcome to WP:be bold -- just know that if someone undoes your edit it's always better to talk to them about why and come to an agreement that way, instead of getting in an "edit war". Hope that helps, and let me know if you have other questions :) Alyo  (<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">chat</b>·<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">edits</b>) 14:17, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

List of nicknames of European royalty and nobility
Hello, Alyo,

If you ever do another AFD nomination like this in the future, it would be helpful to the closer if you'd present it as a bundled nomination, listing all of the pages you are proposing for deletion. Doing this works well with our closing tool, XFDcloser, so that all of the pages can be deleted at once instead of manually.

Also, you notified a page creator about the main article for deletion but it would have been nice to include a personal note with this notice informing them of all of the other pages they had created that might be deleted. Or, when you tagged the subpages, for each letter, use Twinkle which would have posted a talk page notice about each one of them. It would have filled up the article creator's talk page but, should they return, it's better that they are informed than for their talk page to look tidy.

Thank you for all of the work you put into this nomination. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 21:44, 1 November 2022 (UTC)


 * @Liz Ahhhh, I didn't even think about that--I try to stay away from bundled noms for all the obvious reasons, but that makes complete sense and I'll remember that for the future. For the notification part, am I not seeing a bundle/add-to-AfD feature in twinkle? IIRC I couldn't figure out a way to automate step IV of WP:BUNDLE which is why I just hand-edited those pages. I'm just not sure what you mean by that. Thanks! Alyo  (<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">chat</b>·<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">edits</b>) 22:09, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

humanism
Kind reminder. <b style="display:inline; color:#008000;">Cinadon</b><b style="display:inline; color:#c0c0c0;">36</b> 10:44, 7 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Appreciate it--I've been offline this weekend but I'll be able to work on it this week. Alyo  (<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">chat</b>·<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">edits</b>) 17:44, 7 November 2022 (UTC)


 * No worries!<b style="display:inline; color:#008000;">Cinadon</b><b style="display:inline; color:#c0c0c0;">36</b> 12:22, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

GOCE request
Hi Alyo, in October, you placed Cinadon36's copy-edit request for Humanism at the GOCE Requests page on hold while you "sort some NPOV/attribution issues" here. Have these issues now been dealt with? I know the processing of requests is currently glacial but hold notices should be temporary. Cheers,  Baffle☿gab  19:25, 13 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi @Baffle gab1978, sure that can be removed. I'm still working with the editor on the talk page but I had originally put that there just to flag that the article was a long way from a GAN and there was no reason for someone to come in and do a final copyedit. For the purpose of a possible GAN it would need more copyediting, but at least we've made some progress fixing the NPOV. Alyo  (<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">chat</b>·<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">edits</b>) 01:06, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks, no problem, I'll strike the hold note for you. The c/e may still take a while but the request is moving up the list, so it might be done within the next few weeks. I did c/e this one in 2021 so I'm hoping someone else will pick it up. :) Cheers,  Baffle☿gab  02:22, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Just a quick note: I've accepted Cinadon36's latest copy-edit request. I'm informing you as a major contributor to the article. I'll watchlist this page; feel free to contact me if necessary. Cheers,  Baffle☿gab  05:17, 5 January 2023 (UTC)
 * C/e done; please see Cinadon36's talk for my comments there. Cheers,  Baffle☿gab  11:27, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

Now what?
Hi Alyo and sorry for disturbing you again. I hate being pushy, I know I am though. It is been almost 3 weeks since your last edit. Are you awaiting info or an answer from me? Do you have any more concerns regarding NPOV? <b style="display:inline; color:#008000;">Cinadon</b><b style="display:inline; color:#c0c0c0;">36</b> 11:03, 19 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi @Cinadon36, my apologies. The holidays (and a little period of illness) took me out of commission for a while. I see the article has gone through a complete copyedit--it looks much better. I'll read over it again completely tomorrow and see if I can pick out any remaining issues. Alyo  (<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">chat</b>·<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">edits</b>) 03:43, 14 January 2023 (UTC)

No problem Alyo, health cames first. WP can wait. <b style="display:inline; color:#008000;">Cinadon</b><b style="display:inline; color:#c0c0c0;">36</b> 18:04, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

Alyo, could you please help me with the essayist tag in the article of humanism. Could you tell me if you feel there is an issue with the whole article or parts of it? So I could work to improve it a little bit? <b style="display:inline; color:#008000;">Cinadon</b><b style="display:inline; color:#c0c0c0;">36</b> 09:48, 14 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi @Cinadon36, I was hoping that the type of edits I've been making would give you some guidance on what to do everywhere else, as I essentially have had the same questions this whole time. I'll list some further comments then. Alyo  (<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">chat</b>·<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">edits</b>) 14:20, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Oh, I havent been taking the hint. I followed your edits just to make sure everything was within the context of the source- and most of them, if not all, were ok. I will be waiting for your list. We 'll see how it goes. Cheers. <b style="display:inline; color:#008000;">Cinadon</b><b style="display:inline; color:#c0c0c0;">36</b> 15:29, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
 * @Cinadon36 Just to make sure you're aware, I left a couple final comments here: Talk:Humanism. Alyo  (<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">chat</b>·<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">edits</b>) 16:20, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I 've seen them, thanks! <b style="display:inline; color:#008000;">Cinadon</b><b style="display:inline; color:#c0c0c0;">36</b> 16:27, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

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Question from Vikaskumar tech (06:49, 24 December 2022)
hello sir how to write myself bio on Wikipedia --Vikaskumar tech (talk) 06:49, 24 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi @Vikaskumar tech, as a general rule you should not write about yourself on Wikipedia. Alyo  (<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">chat</b>·<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">edits</b>) 02:47, 14 January 2023 (UTC)

Question from Vikaskumar tech (06:51, 24 December 2022)
hello sir, how is going live on google --Vikaskumar tech (talk) 06:51, 24 December 2022 (UTC)

Question from Suja Sdr (06:07, 28 December 2022)
I want my name to appear at the top of the search --Suja Sdr (talk) 06:07, 28 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi @Suja Sdr, Wikipedia has no authority over google searches, if that's what you mean. Alyo  (<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">chat</b>·<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">edits</b>) 02:47, 14 January 2023 (UTC)