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Tech News: 2014-36
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please inform other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent software changes
 * You can now test a new Beta Feature to see links to other wikis in the sidebar. The links come from Wikidata.
 * You can now search pages that link to a page. Use the  keyword in your search.
 * A redirect to a section now changes the URL in the address bar of your browser. If "Dog" redirects to "Animals#Dog", you now see "Animals#Dog" instead of "Dog#Dog".
 * If you are testing Flow, you now have a Flow tab in your Notifications. It is called "Messages". [//www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Echo_(Notifications)/status#2014-08-monthly]

VisualEditor news
 * You can no longer delete required fields in templates.
 * We fixed many Internet Explorer bugs. If you use Internet Explorer 11, you will get VisualEditor next week. Support for earlier versions is coming next.
 * VisualEditor now looks better in Monobook.
 * We fixed a bug where some of your typing could be undone when you used "cut" (Ctrl+X).
 * You will no longer see empty or deleted categories among the suggestions when you add a category.

Future software changes
 * The latest version of MediaWiki (1.24wmf19) is on test wikis and MediaWiki.org since August 28. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis on September 2, and on all Wikipedias on September 4 (calendar).
 * There is a proposal to build a database on Commons for file data. It will make it easier to see the author, license and topics. You can give feedback on this idea. You can also come to the IRC chat on September 3 at 18:00 (UTC) in  at freenode.
 * You can give feedback on Media Viewer until September 7. You can say what needs to be improved and ask other people to give feedback too.
 * You can test a new version of the tool to show math. It uses MathML. Report bugs in bugzilla.
 * You will no longer be able to upload images from the mobile site.

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Sock on me
What do you mean by another account is ✅? is an legitimate alternative account, and not a sock. Can you please show to me the IP's of the two other suspected users so i can see why did you posted a  tag without concensus? Thanks! -PAPAJECKLOY (hearthrob! kiss me! &#60;3) (talk) 08:27, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
 * I understand your alternate account is legitimate, and that's why I put "declared" in the result. I'm not holding that against you. As for the likely result, I do not need a consensus to make a conclusion on CheckUser data. I also do not reveal CU data, as it allows for people to evade our detection the next time around. If you wish, I can ask you a few questions based on the data I do have, and we can go from there. If you answer the questions correctly, i'd be willing to review my results and possibly change them, but for that you do have to be truthful in all answers. -- DQ   (ʞlɐʇ)  22:45, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
 * You can. -PAPAJECKLOY (hearthrob! kiss me! &#60;3) (talk) 23:57, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
 * You can also answer these questions by email, I always offer that chance at privacy for those I ask questions to:
 * 1) Have you ever told anyone about Wikipedia or what you edit on it?
 * I don't think so., i am a lonely person but my family knows that i am active here. -PAPAJECKLOY (hearthrob! kiss me! &#60;3) (talk) 07:21, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
 * 2) Do you know how often your IP address changes?
 * Slightly occasional, because i tend to use on nearby cafe shops if i'm not finished working on an article and expanding it if my connection lost because we are just occupying the internet by a canopy network that's intended to find signal, and if sometimes it's low i tend to use cafe shops, but it's not that always, as you can see my I.P on my own computer unit (recently bought and internet installed), is the adress mostly i used nowadays since we've bought and installed a local area network there, take not that i am connecting in canopy, and i have no skills in changing my ip adress via cmd as it can harm my network and computer, and i do not have any technical professional experience. -PAPAJECKLOY (hearthrob! kiss me! &#60;3) (talk) 07:21, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
 * 3) Why did you feel the need to create ? I know it's within policy, but why did you feel you needed it?
 * If i tend to use at nearby cafe shops, as i said on the statements above. -PAPAJECKLOY (hearthrob! kiss me! &#60;3) (talk) 07:21, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
 * 4) What are somethings you can tell me about the technical device that was used to create and edit as ?
 * , i am prettily sure that this ip was used to create that account, because this account was newly created and i mostly browse now on this ip. -PAPAJECKLOY (hearthrob! kiss me! &#60;3) (talk) 07:21, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
 * 5) What location (generically, like home, work, etc.) was created?
 * My home, at this IP . -PAPAJECKLOY (hearthrob! kiss me! &#60;3) (talk) 07:21, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
 * 6) What locations do you normally edit from, and how frequently? (Please list as many as you remember)
 * As i said, at Home or occasionally at cafe shops, or sometimes at my cousin's laptop or their computer unit. -PAPAJECKLOY (hearthrob! kiss me! &#60;3) (talk) 07:21, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
 * I can follow up with more questions if needed. -- DQ   (ʞlɐʇ)  01:14, 2 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Many thanks for giving me these excellent questions, hope you add more and i have defended my self. -PAPAJECKLOY (hearthrob! kiss me! &#60;3) (talk) 07:21, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

SPI case log
Hey DQ, there's something wrong with the alternative SPI case list you just added. It's displaying many cases as "open" that are actually in "checked" or "CU declined" status (example 1) (example 2). This appears to be the most up to date and accurate info.--Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 21:13, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Ya, it's a live hack right now. There are only certain categories within SPI and it's what the bot is based off of. After dinner, i'll modify some of the categories and create some new ones, and modify the SPI case status template so it all reflects properly. -- DQ   (ʞlɐʇ)  21:22, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Ta for that, you're a star :) --Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 21:24, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

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Dhananjay lovely rakhi jhuma soni
I saw in the new user list and was going to tag it as possible WP:ISU/WP:CORPNAME violation, but a search found it in User:DeltaQuad/UAA/Wait. Do you know something about it? —&#91; Alan  M  1 (talk) &#93;— 13:23, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
 * That's the page indicating that it's waiting till the user edits to report to UAA. My bot handles that task/page. -- DQ   (ʞlɐʇ)  23:22, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-37
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

VisualEditor news
 * From Thursday, Internet Explorer 11 users will get VisualEditor. Support for earlier versions is coming next.

Future software changes
 * The latest version of MediaWiki (1.24wmf20) is on test wikis and MediaWiki.org since September 4. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis on September 9, and on all Wikipedias on September 11 (calendar).
 * You will soon confirm a "Thanks" inline instead of in a dialog.
 * You can read more about the plan to move to Phabricator, a tool that will help people develop the MediaWiki software and report bugs.

Problems
 * There were problems with JavaScript and CSS on Friday, September 5 because of a code error.

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Tech News: 2014-38
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent software changes
 * You can now change the style of links to disambiguation pages. This is done with the  CSS class.
 * There was a problem on right-to-left wikis with Wikidata log entries. The text was messy in watchlists and recent changes. The problem is now fixed. The same problem will be fixed soon for user names.
 * New users are randomly chosen for a test on 12 Wikipedias. They get messages with ideas of articles to edit. The ideas come from what they have already edited.

Problems
 * There was a problem with loading images on September 10.

VisualEditor news
 * If you don't select text when you add a link, the link now shows a number.
 * The citation tool no longer offers to reuse a citation if there are none on the page yet.
 * You can now use help buttons in the "" menu to see what the options are for.

Future software changes
 * The latest version of MediaWiki ( 1.24wmf21 ) is on test wikis and MediaWiki.org since September 11. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis on September 16, and on all Wikipedias on September 18 (calendar).
 * These changes are coming with the new version:
 * If you use Internet Explorer 7, JavaScript will no longer work. JavaScript tools and scripts will no longer work in that browser. You should update to a newer browser. [//www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Compatibility#Grade_C]

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The Signpost: 17 September 2014

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Question
Hi DeltaQuad. You recently deleted Sockpuppet investigations/IBCPirates. Firstly I was just wondering why, as I feel it should have been left as an archive of the opinions surrounding the accounts. But second, I believe I've run in to (been contacted by) another of their accounts on Commons, and would appreciate being able to point a Commons admin towards that page rather than explaining the entire situation again. Could you advise what I should do about this? Thanks. Sam Walton (talk) 09:13, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Denying the user any recognition & removing the chance of sensitive information being rerevealed again are the reasons I deleted the SPI. Sadly, I can't really explain that better for privacy reasons. If you have an account on commons, go ahead an drop me an email, i'll pass it on to a commons CU right away, as it will need CU attention, and likely i'll need to be CUing any enwiki result also. I apologize for the run around. -- DQ   (ʞlɐʇ)  15:12, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
 * No worries and thanks for the help. My account there is the same as here, and you can find the message I received from the (new) account on my Talk Page there. I already requested speedy deletion of a copyrighted upload of theirs FYI. Sam Walton (talk) 15:16, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Took care of that yesterday when I saw the message. If you do see this person again though, please email me as it is important we deal with this as fast as possible, and sometimes I only check wikipedia once a day. By email, I can forward it to the appropriate contacts also for immediate action. Thank you. --  DQ   (ʞlɐʇ)  16:10, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-39
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Recent software changes
 * You can test a new Beta Feature called HHVM. It should make editing faster. Please report bugs if you see them.

Problems
 * There was a problem on the English Wikipedia on September 19. It was due to edits on a template used on many pages.
 * Sites were down for users in the Pacific area around 7:00 UTC on September 20. It was due to a problem in the San Francisco data center.
 * There were two bad bugs messing up articles in some browsers in VisualEditor. We fixed the bugs and updated the sites.

Software changes this week
 * The new version of MediaWiki ( 1.24wmf22 ) is on test wikis and MediaWiki.org since September 18. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis on September 23, and on all Wikipedias on September 25 (calendar).
 * If you have more than 2000 notifications, the oldest ones will be removed.
 * In the "Vector" skin, the icon used for users will show a neutral gender.
 * The VisualEditor template tool now tells you if a required field is missing.
 * The "Cancel" button of the VisualEditor save window is now called "Resume editing". This shows that you can still edit and you won't lose your changes.
 * There are new keyboard shortcuts in VisualEditor. Use Ctrl+Shift+6 for  and Ctrl+Shift+5 for strikethrough.
 * In VisualEditor, you can now see that you are switching to the source editing mode. Before, it was not clear it was happening.

Future site changes
 * You can see a plan for the move to Phabricator. It's the new tool to track bugs. A guided tour will be done via video on September 24.  

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Urgent SPI Request
I would like to request a SPI investigation of Krzyhorse22; I note you have left a message on his Talk page regarding possible sockpuppetry. Because you appear to have more information than I do, I was hoping you could initiate the SPI case. The SPI issue is really secondary, the user is un-managably disruptive, and possibly insane, to wit: I realize this is an ANI issue, however, I think it could be more efficiently and quickly handled - and with less drama - as a SPI case if, indeed, there is evidence of sockpuppetry. I apologize, in advance, for what is about to happen to your Talk page as KH22 will show up here momentarily and accuse me of being someone secretly trying to destroy WP (his usual M.O. is to declare his accusers are actually the WP:BIOs they've written; he's previously accused me of being Andrew Hughes (attorney), for instance, among a variety of other people, living and dead). While it was funny at first, the situation has really become unmanageable for those of us he's targeting with this insanity. Thanks. DocumentError (talk) 06:25, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
 * He has filed at least 6 ANIs and 3RR cases (conservative estimate) against StanTheMan87 in the last month (all of which have either been dismissed or archived without action). Here's today's: . In fact, his first three edits after creating his account were to initiate ANIs. (see: )
 * His edit pattern exhibits increasingly bizarre/aberrant behavior, including claiming he has had phone calls with "the head of the CIA" [sic] about the copyright status of an image he has been trying to get deleted for weeks now (and which he has been engaged in repeated, nuisance tagging), and insinuating he is a CIA case officer here to enforce copyright laws. (see: )
 * He has blitzed StanTheMan87's talk page with 13 warning templates in 30 days.
 * He has vandalized the permissions descriptions of images I've uploaded to make them appear as non-public domain images (before then nominating them for deletion), such as adding "owned by" verbiage when such verbiage is not contained in the uploading site. (see and )

I also wish to highlight points worthy of Krzyhorse22 and his conduct:
 * Diff concerning Krzyhorse22 claim to have had contact with the head of the CIA in order to remove an image uploaded by U.S government,
 * Whilst trying to use a conciliatory stance on his objection to reason, he has repeatably tried to coerce me into not uploading images of relevance by using half-ass excuses that they are somehow fake, or showing the wrong person, without referencing a single source to support his POV., , ,
 * He has reported me for Edit warring however, he has conveniently left out the cause of my reverts, and the user who is responsible for them. The user Maxforwind has been reverting edits without any suitable justification beyond that they are "irrelevant"  according to him, without further explanation. When questioned by Bbb23 on this, Krzyhorse22 stated "I was going to report him/her but got busy"  in what is yet another typical Krzyhorse22 response. It is also worthy to note that Maxforwind was created three days ago, and his first edits were to remove an image  that Krzyhorse22 has been trying relentlessly to remove . Indeed, both Maxforwind and Krzyhorse22's first edits have been targeted directly at me concerning the same article, over the same images. See  and . StanTheMan87 (talk) 09:19, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Please also note, as further evidence of sockpuppetry, that the images in question - Mullah Omar and various persons associated with the Mullah - have been on WP for years without issue. KrzyH22 has been uniquely single minded in his fanaticism to get these removed. Virtually his entire edit time in the last month of his account(s) has been devoted to repeatedly nominating these important historic (and repeatedly confirmed public domain) files for deletion. The only exceptions have been when he starts deluging people who vote "Keep" with ANIs, template-bombing talk pages, or threatening people with action by the CIA if they attempt to upload more images of the Mullah. DocumentError (talk) 09:44, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
 * I do agree with you that it is likely someone who has previously edited Wikipedia that has started this account. That said, CheckUser currently can't find anything to support that theory. In this case, without any evidence of previously editing under a different account, i'm not inclined to block, as I don't think it's yet justified for sock puppetry. As for the comment I left on his talkpage, he hasn't reoffended since and has taken my advice and warning. Unfortunately, although I have been trying to look at this for at least the past hour or so, I don't have the time to read and compare into this dispute enough to see whether non-sockpuppetry administrative action is actionable. (Full work weeks - gotta love them) It seems like there are issues with several images and copyrights. My encouragement to you is to seek a 3rd opinion. Wikipedia works on consensus vs two people arguing over things. If you still can't get something with that, you have the dispute resolution noticeboard, and if that fails, then ANI could be your next approach. I'm pretty sure I also saw stuff from both sides, maybe not you directly DocumentError, that constitutes a personal attack, and it needs to stop. I'll let the AN3 report take it's course, and if you have any other sockpuppet issues, feel free to stop by. -- DQ   (ʞlɐʇ)  16:42, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi, I'm happy to subject any of my edits or comments to WP:BOOMERANG. I have had zero edit interaction with KH22 - we have not edited any of the same articles - so there is no editor dispute here that needs resolving. I only got involved when I noticed his flood of ANI reports and his daily tagging of the Mullah Omar image. Please note I have already filed an ANI against KH22 (here: ); this was on Sep. 1 and there has been no admin comment either way; this was my first ANI on WP and I don't want to get into the habit of being the guy who floods the ANI until someone pays attention. DocumentError (talk) 19:21, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

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Tech News: 2014-40
<section begin="technews-2014-W40"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent software changes
 * On Commons, you can now see what files are most used across all wikis. You can also see the same list for deleted or uncreated files.
 * There are now many more translations for language names.

Software changes this week
 * The new version of MediaWiki ( 1.25wmf1 ) is on test wikis and MediaWiki.org since September 25. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis on September 30, and on all Wikipedias on October 2 (calendar).
 * Errors from Scribunto (Lua) are now shown on the page. Before, you had to click on "Script error" to see them.
 * You can add an "autovalue" for a field in TemplateData. When users add the template to a page, the value will be added automatically. An example is when a clean-up template shows the date it was added.
 * If you change a user preference but don't save it, it now asks if you want to save it.
 * The PDF export tool has changed. The new one has better language support but it doesn't offer ZIM and EPUB formats.

Future changes
 * You can watch a video showing Phabricator, the new tool to track bugs. You can also read more about the move from Bugzilla.
 * JavaScript authors: Many old methods will be removed soon. Please check your scripts and gadgets and replace the old methods by the new ones if needed.

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You've got mail!
Shrike (talk) 17:06, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Any updates?--Shrike (talk) 04:03, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Tomorrow is my first day off since the 29th, so i'll hopefully be at least reviewing it tomorrow. -- DQ   (ʞlɐʇ)  04:05, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Replied and the ball is finally rolling. -- DQ   (ʞlɐʇ)  18:46, 5 October 2014 (UTC)