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DYK nom on Kuppalli
Hello,

Thanks for creating article on Kuppalli. Just for your information, I have nominated a DYK on this article, by having the following hook.


 * ...that Kuvempu, pen-name of the Kannada poet, Karnataka Ratna and Jnanpith Award winner Kuvempu, was derived from his full name "Kuppalli Venkatappa Puttappa", Kuppalli being his native place?

Thanks, - KNM Talk 01:57, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Chikkamagaluru District
Excellent job on Chikkamagaluru District. Good example of fine work done on a WikiProject India South India article. Your work is appriciated by this WikiSouthIndian.Marcus 12:57, 23 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Excellent job on Chikkamagaluru District.Dineshkannambadi 22:04, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

DYK nom on Murudeshwara
Hello,

Thanks for creating article on Murudeshwara. Just for your information, I have nominated a DYK on this article, by having the following hook.


 * ...that the world's tallest statue of Hindu God Lord Shiva (pictured), is located in Murudeshwara, a coastal town in Karnataka, India?

Also:
 * I expanded the article bit more and added the necessary references, and few external links. Updated the section name for 'Major attractions' and removed the sub-section headings in 'Getting there' sections. Added Karnataka topics tag and relevant categories.
 * Again, great job! Thanks! - KNM Talk 23:24, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

By the way, I am a wildlife enthusiast. There is no shortage of wildlife photographs in my collection, from Karnatakas's Wildlife Sanctuaries. If you need any, let me know.Dineshkannambadi 13:50, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

DYK

 * Amar, you are doing a good job on various places of Karnataka. Already two of your articles have been featured as DYKs, Kuppalli and Murudeshwara. Keep up the good work.
 * When you get a chance, do take a look at Karnataka Portal, List of Featured Articles related to Karnataka, and List of Featured DYKs related to Karnataka.


 * By the way, some of the active contributors on Karnataka related articles are,, , , , . I'm sure there are few others who are helping out, with their contributions. Good to have you around. Thanks for your contributions. Continue the good job! ಸಿಗೋಣ! - KNM Talk 04:37, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Shivamogga
Amar, the Lion Tailed Macacaque does not really exist in Shivamogga district. Its northern most range is the Kudremukh region. Perhaps you want to take one of my images from Biligirirangan Hills or Nagarahole WLS, Bhadra or Bandipur (look in the nature section of my user page). Gaur and Chital etc are plenty though.Dineshkannambadi 00:20, 31 March 2007 (UTC)


 * If it has appeared in the newspaper, then its ok to have it. Sometimes these troupes do move around and Sharavati WLS is not too far from Kudremukh. I dont have any hard ans fast opinions. good job over all!!. You may want to focus later on other districts of Karnataka. I put in lots of info into Hassan district but am busy with other articles right now.Dineshkannambadi 13:05, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
 * BTW, when you leave a message just hit four "tildas" like at the end or your message appears as unsigned.thanksDineshkannambadi 13:13, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Madikeri
Hi. Expanding on the reason for my changes - Abbey Falls is not in Madikeri, it has its own article, and it is not appropriate to repeat it under Madikeri. At best, a brief mention that it is nearby may be appropriate. The transport to Madikeri is irrelevant, since there is is no rail or air transport to the place – I left the road travel material there, though it may also be a bit overstated compared to other places. Adding stuff on how to get there by rail or air for towns that have no such facility belongs in a travel guide and not in an encyclopaedia. As it is, the Abbey Falls content is clearly travel promotional material, and the air and rail transport material is not just irrelevant, but also again travel promotion. Also, the Kodava culture stuff is misplaced, since it also has its own article. If it was to be under a place heading it would be under Kodagu, not under one place within it. Thanks. Imc 09:15, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Abbey falls is in Madikeri. It comes within the town limits of Madikeri. If adding image is travel promotion, hey, we got millions of articles in English wikipedia to clean up.Gnanapiti 15:40, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, if it is indeed within the town limits of Madikeri, then so be it. Last time I was there, I was told it was several miles away (which is what the article on the falls also says), and I never saw it. (Presumably we're talking about the town, not Madikeri taluk.) As for travel promotion, adding air and rail travel information for a place such as Madikeri is indeed travel agent stuff; it is not at all relevant for Wikipedia. Imc 20:09, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Please see my recent post at WikiProject_Indian_cities. Thanks. Imc 16:53, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Mysore district
I looked at the article and made a minor change. One thing I saw (something I have learnt over a period of time) is that the web references though valid are not cited correctly. You need to use the synax I have used in the FA's like Hoysala Empire etc. You need to provide author, publisher, date on which you referenced etc. You will find may such web reference examples in my articles and you can use the same format. This way you can avoid conflict with other users. The web page by Arthikage is a good source of BASIC karnataka history and after having read over a dozen books on the same subject, I must confess the web page by Arthikaje is a very accurate, unbiased and factual. Most web pages unfortunately are not. Take your time, dont be in a hurry to finish all the districts. Research the matter thorougly so you dont have to come back to the topic again. Good going all the same.Dineshkannambadi 02:49, 3 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Mysore-->Hi. Create seperate subarticles for Mysore cuisine, culture, festivals, monuments, palaces, silk, Sandalwood industry etc. This way you keep the main article concise. Yes, Mysore being the cultural capital can quickly become a mammoth article and deserves to also.Dineshkannambadi 18:18, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Athni -> Athani (Karnataka)
I have merged both the articles. Thanks for bringing this into my attention. - KNM Talk 00:48, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

DYK nom on Culture of Mysore
Hello,

Thanks for creating article on Culture of Mysore. Just for your information, I have nominated a DYK on this article, by having the following hook.


 * ...that the culture of Mysore has earned the title of "Cultural Capital of Karnataka" to the city of Mysore, in the Indian state of Karnataka?

Thanks, - KNM Talk 22:23, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Mysore
You are doing a great Job. I hope someday you can cover all districts of Karnataka.Dineshkannambadi 00:20, 10 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Yoga in general is a part of our culture. If that style or variant originated in Mysore Yoga kendras, it would be a nice DYK. But Yoga is not something practiced by the populace in general (though they should be) so you may want to put it under "recreation" or "health".Dineshkannambadi 11:36, 10 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Also make sure that all info that is deemed critical/important/interesting to the article is cited, not from bolg sites but from reliable articles, web source or book sources. There are always people who are willing to throw tags. Did I miss Somanathapura on the Mysore page or did you forget to add it. Instead of the Talakadu temple, perhaps a Somanathapura temple image (Hoysala architecture) will do well.Dineshkannambadi 16:52, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Population
Do you have a citation for the latest (or near latest) population statistics for native and second language Kannada speakers in Karnataka. I need it for the Kannada page.Dineshkannambadi 22:56, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. The numbers in the cites seem to match what is now quoted in the Kannada page. But the second language speakers population is a mystery still.Dineshkannambadi 11:52, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

DYK nom on Ninasam
Hello,

Thanks for creating the article on Ninasam. Just for your information, I have nominated a DYK on this article, by having the following hook.


 * ...that Ninasam, a cultural organization in Karnataka, India, created by renowned dramatist and Magsaysay award winner K. V. Subbanna, was sponsored a project called Janaspandana by Ford Foundation, USA?

Thanks, - KNM Talk 07:12, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Photo Request
Amar, While it is certainly good to write messages in talk page requesting for the relevant photos, you can still use the templates which are meant for such purpose. You can use reqphoto, for example. This will also put that talk page into corresponding category, so that among the people browsing through that category who has the photo, can upload it to Wikipedia. Hope this helps. - KNM Talk 07:21, 14 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks for population article. 9 million is what I have too. But somehow its hard to believe. There are 52 million people in KA (may be 55). Out of these if there are 35+9=44 million speakers, that would mean there are some 10 million people in Karnataka who cant speak Kannada? Thats hard to believe.However we have to go with what we have.thanks.Dineshkannambadi 13:42, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Syntax
Amarrg, when you provide citations please make sure the inline citation comes after the punctuations mark, not before. Here is the correct syntax.

cited sentence.[2] (not, cited sentence [2].) Also please provide a "Lead" section if possible for Chikkamagaluru district on the same lines as Shivamogga district.Thanks.Dineshkannambadi 18:00, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Kuppali - Article movement proposal
Thanks for bringing it into my attention. I see a valid point in your proposal. I have left my comments in that talk page. By the way, Ninasam, your 4th DYK, is all set to appear on in main page in few minutes from now. Watch out for it! :) Thanks and look forward for more interesting articles from you. - KNM Talk 07:10, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

DYK nom on Dr. H. Sudarshan
Hello,

Thanks for creating the article on Dr. H. Sudarshan. Just for your information, I have nominated a DYK on this article, by having the following hook.


 * ...that Dr. H. Sudarshan, a doctor and social activist from Karnataka, India, was honoured with the Right Livelihood Award, also known as alternative Nobel Prize, for showing how tribal culture can help securing the basic rights and needs of indigenous people?

Thanks, - KNM Talk 01:22, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Kayyara ಕಿಞ್ಞಣ್ಣ Rai
"He published a handwritten journal called Susheela at the age of 12." Can you please add a reference to this?  I am trying to figure out the best fact out of this article for DYK. Also, the article needs some more expansion, atleast a couple more paragraphs. There is some more information from kn.wiki article which you have interwiki'd. Also, a google search on ಕಯ್ಯಾರ gives you handful of links, where we can gather some more information. Good job on this article! Thanks, - KNM Talk 07:28, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh! yeah... thanks for leaving me the note about the discussion on that talk page. I have left my comments out there. I'm open for whatever is decided there with consensus. Thanks. - KNM Talk 07:29, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Photo request template
I saw your note in Talk:Maddur vada. Actually, for such requests you can use reqphotoin template, by sending the parameter as Karnataka. Like,. This will automatically generate the message, Wikipedians in Karnataka can help. Also, the page will automatically be put into Category:Wikipedia requested photographs in Karnataka this category. So people browsing through the category, like participants in Karnataka WikiProject, can easily get to know which are the photos needed. Hope it helps. - KNM Talk 20:26, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

DYK nom on Kayyara Kinyanna Rai
Hello,

Thanks for creating the article on Kayyara Kinyanna Rai. Just for your information, I have nominated a DYK on this article, by having the following hook.


 * ... that Kayyara Kinyanna Rai, a Kannada poet and an Indian freedom fighter, published his first journal, Susheela, at the age of 12?

Thanks, - KNM Talk 23:08, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

re
The cat is a little too ambiguous I agree. IT has a broad range of Hindu revivalists (Gedong Bagus Oka), Hindu reformers (Ram mohan roy), and Hindus in social service (applies to H. sudarshan). Can you suggest a good solution to trifurcate the cat or work on the scope? Baka man  00:08, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Railways
Nice to see you are open minded and not defensive. Lets bring out the "poor state of affairs" in the Karnataka Railways. Maybe some politician "babu" will read it and do something about it.Dineshkannambadi 12:46, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Congrats
Hi Amar, I had an opportunity to go through your contributions lately and I must say, you've been terrific. You've created some fabulous articles which were long due in Wikipedia. By the way, you seem to be interested in Ninasam. Are you associated with the troupe by any means? Coming from the same region, I'm a big fan of Ninasam and a regular follower of events. Anyways, it's nice to meet you. Hoping to see many many many more such articles from you. Gnanapiti 16:19, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Udaya TV
Hello Amar, To provide a variety to Karnataka related articles, created this article Udaya TV today. Googled to get more information on History, ownership etc. Couldn't find much. If you have any information, please add. (When it was started, how it was started, who started, how was it developed over the years, major achievements/awards, coverage of events, current president/vice-president, etc). I know some information as a general knowledge, but its better if we include them with citations. If I remember correctly film actor Srinath is the vice-president, but I could be wrong. - KNM Talk 04:37, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your contributions. Good additions based on good research. I will try and upload couple of Screenshots from Udaya TV, and include them in this article. - KNM Talk 16:11, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

User page DYK listing
It is good that you have listed out the various DYKs you have created/expanded. However, IMO, it would be good if you even include the sentence (also known as hook) that is interesting in that article. All your (and others' too, related to Karnataka) DYK hooks can be found here. Also, making them bulleted would have a better look and readability. - KNM Talk 16:15, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

DYK nom on Sati Sulochana
Hello,

Thanks for creating the article on Sati Sulochana. Just for your information, I have nominated a DYK on this article, by having the following hook.


 * ...that Sati Sulochana is the first ever talkie film produced in the Kannada language?

Thanks, - KNM Talk 06:26, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Srinath
Srinath is the latest article I have created, after a small stub Paduvaaralli Pandavaru created yesterday. I feel, Srinath is in good shape, but any additional information you can add would be much appreciated. Thanks. - KNM Talk 09:02, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Re:DYK Medal
Thank you very much! :) - KNM Talk 06:20, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Nagaradhane
Amar,If you have any inputs in this discussion, please provide. Thanks - KNM Talk 21:24, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Kasuti
I wonder why you are not nominating Kasuti for DYK. Normally, editors put in self nominations with a suitable hook on Template talk:Did you know page. You should go ahead and sublmit the nomination for Kasuti. Regards. -- P.K.Niyogi 05:26, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
 * P.K.N: Kasuti is infact nominated for DYK. The trend was, I used to nominate all the DYKs written by Amar, but this time he beat me. :-) - KNM Talk 05:33, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, nice to see it there. All the best. -- P.K.Niyogi 06:18, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Nagaradhane
Dear Amarrg,

Both "Nagaradhane" and "Nagararadhane" are right. Most of the Kannada newspapers prefer "Nagaradhane" and so does the general public.

"Nagaradhane" is a general term for snake worship in Tulu regions. "Nagamandala" is a component of the "Nagaradhane." "Nagaradhane" also includes another intricate ritual known as "Ashlesha Bali." While "Nagamandala" is considered as an expensive ritual, "Ashlesha Bali" is relatively cheaper to conduct.

If you have any more information or photographs about "Nagaradhane" you can upload it.

Regards,

Bailbeedu

DYK nom on Chitrakala Parishat
Hello,

Thanks for creating the article on Chitrakala Parishat. Just for your information, I have nominated a DYK on this article, by having the following hook.


 * ...that Chitrakala Parishat, an art institution and a cultural organization in Bangalore, was the brainchild of famous Russian painter Svetoslav Roerich who used to reside in Bangalore?

Thanks, - KNM Talk 00:46, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Karnataka topics
There is a discussion on Template_talk:Karnataka. Please provide your inputs. - KNM Talk 15:19, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Karnataka/Collaboration
Please see WikiProject_Karnataka/Collaboration and the discussion page. Your inputs are much appreciated. Thanks - KNM Talk 07:40, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

DYK nom on Kannada Sahitya Parishat
Hello,

Thanks for creating the article on Kannada Sahitya Parishat. Just for your information, I have nominated a DYK on this article, by having the following hook.


 * ...that the creation of Kannada Sahitya Parishat, an Indian non-profit organization to promote Kannada language, was first initiated by Bharat Ratna Sir M. Vishweshwaraiah, the Diwan of the Mysore Kingdom?

Thanks, - KNM Talk 18:00, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Rashtrakuta
Thanks.Dineshkannambadi 19:17, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Gangas
Hi. Do you have time to quickly copy edit for grammar, spelling etc., Origin of the Western Ganga Dynasty before I nominate for DYK.ThanksDineshkannambadi 15:30, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks a lot. Just a pointer, names of Kings, Gods/Goddesses and place names (unless historical) should not be in italics. Names of literary writings, royal epithets etc can be in italics. Ofcourse there are no explicit rules though, just a common practice.Dineshkannambadi 16:58, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Karnataka article pics
Hey are you liking the changes I've been making to the pics? Let me know or revert if you dont like for some reason. Sarvagnya 12:02, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Karnataka
Thanks for filling in on the Flora-Fauna section. I had meant to become active on this topic but was kept busy with other articles. I have some good books for this topic which I refer to during my wildlife trips. Hope you dont mind if I make a few edits here and there if I feel something needs to be added. At some point, once I am free from History articles, I certianly intend to create detailed articles on all the major WLS and National Parks of Karnataka.Dineshkannambadi 14:32, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Sure I will copy edit it tonight. One thing I noticed is that we dont need to specify every variety of plant and animal/birds. Only the ones that catch the eye ot the reader (ofcourse as a wildlife lover I realise the whole eco-system is tied in and no animal /bird is more important that the next). The important thing is to mention the geography type, the main species, the possible numbers with citations etc.Dineshkannambadi 15:39, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Flora and Fauna
Amar, please add this info regarding UNESCO World heritage site consideration for some 10 WLS in Karnataka.


 * Western Ghats—Talacauvery Sub-Cluster (with Six Site Elements)
 * Western Ghats—Kudremukh Sub-Cluster (with Five Site Elements)

I think you have done a great job in collecting all this info. However here is what I think should be done with all this info.

info one each WLS/NP focussing on the most important animals. Anshi and Dandeli are famous for the "black panther", Bandipur and Nagarahole for Gaur, Elephant and Tiger, Bankapura and Adichunchungiri for peacocks, Melkote for wolf etc. In addition to adding all this info, we need to mention other areas that are being considered for protection such as Hampi area for Otters, Ramanagara for Sloth bear and those areas that have been recently nominated as "corridor forests" for migratory elephants like Anekal near Bangalore. I will continue to read your inputs in detail though.thanksDineshkannambadi 18:57, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Create a subarticle for Flora and Fauna
 * Accumalate all mammals, birds, reptiles etc into independent paragraphs in that subsection.
 * The main Karnataka article paragraph on flora and fauna should only touch upon bare minimum

Within the subarticle for "Flora and Fauna of Karnataka" we need sub-sub-articles for "lits of Mammals", "list of Reptiles", "List of Birds" etc.Dineshkannambadi 19:55, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Amar, all information on area of park, rainfall in mm, % area should come with certian syntax arrngements which I will try to pul out for you. Meaning the "number" and the "untis" need to be seperated by a certian syntax.Dineshkannambadi 20:14, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

You need to put back the citations for all sanctuaries just in case. also a common policy needs to be followed for animals and birds w.r.t. maintianing Upper case or lower case.Ex: "White Ibis" or "white ibis".Dineshkannambadi 20:25, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Amar, I will go thru the subarticle "Flora and Fauna of Karnataka" thoroughly this coming week. This can be a FA in its own merit. We need to create sub articles here for "birds", "Mammals", "Butterflies". I have no shortage of images for all categories.Thanks for getting this started. It has been pending for long.Dineshkannambadi 00:35, 7 May 2007 (UTC)