User talk:Amarrg/Archive 2

Flora and Fauna of Karnataka
Great going!!!!Dineshkannambadi 16:52, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

We need a map of Karnataka which clearly shows the various types of forests and their spread including rain forest, Shola grasslands, moist deciduous, dry desiduous and shrub forsts. I have a map somewhere that gives that info. I will look for it.Dineshkannambadi 17:00, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

We should seperate out the Bird sanctuaries out for clarity into a seperate paragraph. Also, for each WLS/NP/BS we should include one line (few words) describing what kind of geography it has (moist deciduous, dry deciduous etc) unless its already there.Dineshkannambadi 20:14, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Unfortunately I left one of my useful books (back home in India) which describes some of the newly inducted sanctuaries. Please add info if you can. I however have here with me good books for describing terrain, "Checklist of Birds", "Checklist of Butterflies".Dineshkannambadi 02:18, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

DYk-->Thats good. I will copy edit again tonight.Dineshkannambadi 14:17, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Amar, Just a though. While the Tiger image in the Flora... page looks good, it looks like an image taken in a Zoo and really does not convey the true picture of a wild tiger in the wilderness. The Bhadra image your were using earlier is better in that sense though the face is slightly covered by foliage.Dineshkannambadi 13:25, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Flora and fauna of Karnataka
Good job.Dineshkannambadi 17:08, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Congrats Amar. Nicely done. Between, I had asked you something few days ago which is buried somewhere in this talk page. :) Gnanapiti 17:12, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Amar, whenever you have time, can you please do a copy edit of the "History" section of Gangas? I am covering one section at a time and should be ready for peer review by June 1st. Avoid overlinking and try to link "power" links only meaning links that add value to the article as a whole. I have requested Gnanapiti also. Whoever gets there first...ThanksDineshkannambadi 13:34, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the cpedits. The format I have been using in all FA's so far was prescribed by the FA review committee, so I will revert to the old format if you dont mind. The format you put in is what I used to use last year which the FA's reviewers did not want. I Dont want to change something that works well. Regarding the tiger image, dont worry. Its not a big deal. Whatever makes you happy. Also, be careful not to use the term POV lightly as there are many anti-Karnataka editors who could misquote you and misuse your statement quickly. Its only important in cpedits not to change to meaning of the intended citation, though once in away due to numerous copy edits, the meaning can change and this is what should be avoided. thanksDineshkannambadi 16:56, 12 May 2007 (UTC) Also, there is no need to use CE everywhere. Once it is used in the LEAD (where i had missed it) then there is no need elsewhere.Dineshkannambadi 17:30, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

Agumbe
Hi Amar. Population information is available here. I'm unable to add references to infobox. Gnanapiti 16:04, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, sure Amar. Feel free to remove anything which you don't find appropriate. I also feel the same thing going by your logic. Gnanapiti 05:34, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

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DYK

 * Congrats Amar. Good job. Gnanapiti 15:14, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

A thought
Have you though of writing about,

Dineshkannambadi 15:38, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) The buffalo race in coastal Karnataka (not sure what it is called in Kannada)
 * 2) Karaga
 * 3) Kanganhalli/Sannati Buddhist discoveries in Gulbarga (though I am tempted to write this myself)
 * 4) Onake Obbavva (of Chitradurga)
 * Dinesh, I suppose you're talking about Kambala. Sarvagnya 22:15, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Western Ganga images
Amar, do you have a good image from one of these Ganga temples (Hindu). The Talakad minor shrines built by them are not clear in my photographs.

Some examples are the Kapileswara temple at Manne, Kolaramma temple at Kolar, Nageshwara temple at Begur, the Hanumantesvara temple at Bannur, the Rameswara temple at Narasamangala, Bhoganandi shrine at Nandi Hills which is a beautiful shrine with lovely sculptures. At Talakad they built the Maralesvara temple, the Arakesvara temple and the Patalesvara temple. Other well known Hindu temples are the Mahalingesvara temple at Varuna, the Kallesvara temple at Aralaguppe, the Yoga Narasimha temple at Dadiga and the Dadigesvara temple at Kodihalli.Dineshkannambadi 16:34, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Karanji lake
BTW, shouldn't this be moved to Karanji Lake (capital L)? --  howcheng  {chat} 00:37, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Just to Inform you
You and the number of articles you have successfully submitted to DYK has been noted here because you have been discovered as one of the twenty-five highest DYK article contributors. If you feel compelled to continue to update your number of DYKs on this list, and therefore the list itself, then it would be very helpful and help make sure that the list is as up-to-date as possible. If you, indeed, do not wish to be present on this list, then please notify me, the creator. Regards,  Anonymous Dissident  Utter 04:09, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Sudi
Thanks. Unfortunately the images are not clear. I will be visiting some of the most famous Kalyani Chalukya temples this july (Lakkundi, Dambal, Lakshmeshwar, Itagi, Hairhara, Gadag) and will be writing a detialed FA (hopefully) on Western Chalukya architecture.Dineshkannambadi 17:34, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Sharavathi
Thats the most beautiful view of "Joga" that I have ever seen. Hearty congratulations. Every river in KA needs to be documented. A FA called "waterfalls of Karnataka" is a must at some point.Dineshkannambadi 18:56, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

Keep going
Well done. Keep going. Whenever you create a new article please enter it on this page - Notice board for India-related topics/It's new. - P.K.Niyogi 13:51, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Haridasa
Looks good. We need to keep adding citations for which there is no shortage. I will spend some time everyday on this article for a few days.Dineshkannambadi 12:46, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

The article needs a thorough copy edit. Upper case/lower case has been used and needs to be uniform, especiall the word Haridasa. Kannada transileration of Haridasa is needed. There may also be repeat sentences. Many Words need English language translation such as Tripadi etc. I will look into that.Dineshkannambadi 15:37, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Fine, I will add citations, meanings of complicated words with citations etc tonight. If we are able to make significant changes over the next 3 days, we should consider a DYK nom.Dineshkannambadi 16:50, 31 May 2007 (UTC) In fact we can continue to add relevant material and go for DYK even later on. No hurry as such.Dineshkannambadi 17:01, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Re
Oh OK. Good to know that. Between do you have any plans of moving Flora and fauna of Karnataka up the ladder and bring it to FA? It is such a beautiful article with loads of information. I think we can receive help pretty easily from lot of other editors on the subject. What do you think? Gnanapiti 17:39, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Western Ganga Dynasty
Could you please add the Kannada transileration to the lead section of the article?thanks.Dineshkannambadi 23:10, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Changes to the portal
Hi Amar, I saw the changes you've made to the portal - the one today(FAs) and the one a few days ago(the Categories). I somehow feel that the changes are not appropriate in that a) they do not fit well with the overall 'theme'/'template' of the portal and b) I feel they are against the Portal MOS(manual of style)

Usually all wikiprojects keep track of their FAs on their Wikiproject page. The portal is meant to be like a website or something but only with free content drawn from across wikipedia. So the target like all articles is the lay reader. That being the case, I feel statistics about "Featured articles" and such is out of place there. Unless you have some concerns, I propose to revert your changes. Please let me know. Thanks. Sarvagnya 06:08, 5 June 2007 (UTC) :) Thanks. I will comment further on Portal talk.  Sarvagnya 07:03, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks.Dineshkannambadi 12:07, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

OK. Tonight. I will also add citations to history, language, literature sections which will be quite simple. When do plan to go for PRDineshkannambadi 17:00, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Karnataka
Yes. You just have been awesome on the Karnataka article. I think we have a pretty well cited article now and all that we need to do is greatly prune it to a more reasonable size. It was 70 kb or so and I had trimmed it to 58 kb. Now it is back to 77kb which I think is also because of the several citations you have added in the past few days. I will start trimming again and once we get it down to around 60kb or something, I think we can nominate it for PR and then FA. Usually articles are expected to be in the 45-50kb range. But there are no hard and fast rules about that. I have seen FAs which are over 80-90kb also. Be that as it may, I think we will need to trim it to around 55-60kb or so if possible.

btw, I have expanded B. V. Karanth and plan to do a little more expansion within the next two days and nominate it for a dyk. Please take a look at it and see if you can add something. Sarvagnya 17:09, 6 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Yup, will do. BTW, Not sure whether you noticed the deletion notice on the Karanth's image Image:Karanth.jpg -- Amarrg 17:14, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

M. Chidananda Murthy
Just started a stub on him, it may be interesting to note his exchange with U AnandaMurthy and Chidananda's advocacy for Hindus and opinions. Baka man  00:52, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

karnataka
I will add citations for History, Religion, Music, Language, Literature soon.Dineshkannambadi 02:43, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Appreciation
Amar, the article on Karnataka is getting better and better. Efforts by you and Dinesh are paying off. Thanks.Kanchanamala 23:38, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Sports in Karnataka

 * Lets bring it to the Karnataka group and discuss. This type of FA is also new to me as it belongs to a new category of articles. I feel there are some sections that need citations.


 * The last para of History, Literature, Language and Religion needs one or two citations each. I will get down to that this weekend. Dineshkannambadi 15:50, 9 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Origin of Karnataka name should be merged with History. No point having a small para hanging out there. The lead may need to be slightly bigger by one para.
 * A very brief mention of a few highlights may be needed, just as the Jnanapit awards have been mentioned. Something like "karnataka's contribution to literature, architecture, sports (cricket, hockey), religion ... all in one short para.
 * Too many single line, double line, triple line paras. Need to keep to no less than 5 line paras by merging.
 * Formatting is important, it seems we may have too many title headings making the "heading box" too long.
 * We should compare against another "Indian state" FA (if any) and see how it looks. we may get some ideas there.
 * Every web link needs to be shown as a reference in the "Reference column", All reference book/link needs to be alphabetized.
 * I was comparing with Kerala state FA. We have too many subheadings. Need to consolidate culture, religion and arts into one section. Even witin Economy for instance, we have to many subheadings. It needs to be consolidated. We have surely more variety in topics and thats good.Dineshkannambadi 15:58, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Format for FA
I have proposed a prelim format in the Talk:Karnataka page.Dineshkannambadi 18:40, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Hey Amar, I just saw those graphs that you added. I think those graphs are better represented as pie charts.  Can you please change it.  Thanks.  Sarvagnya 06:23, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Hmm.. looks better but I'd have preferred a 2D depiction. And btw, did you round them off to the nearest whole number?  Maybe it'd be better if we retain the exact percentages(to 1 or 2 decimal places if possible).  Anyway.. this should also be good enough.  Let us see what people say in PR.  Sarvagnya 06:53, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Hello!
Hello Amar,  Hope you are doing fine. Looked into KAR-DYK list and it has grown significantly in last one month. Most of the work done by you! Very good job done. Also, the FA drive on Karnataka seems to be moving in full swing. Meanwhile, Dinesh has already moved Western Gangas to peer review. By the time Karnataka article is ready for peer review, probably Western Gangas will be there in FAC. Please keep up the great job! - KNM Talk 05:42, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Pie charts
I like your pie charts in Karnataka article. Gives a whole new perspective.Dineshkannambadi 02:42, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

The Economy is too skimpy with no real details for a state that stands 6th in GNP, 1st in IT etc. we needs facts and figures. There are too many subheadings, lots of overlinking in areas, and underlinking in others, all of which needs to be taken care off. The Peer reviewers are going to flag this anyway. Why dont we work on this for 2 more weeks and then go for it. Lets first satisfy the list of TBD's in the talk page. Please delete those you think you have taken care off.Dineshkannambadi 03:04, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Economy-KA
I have commented in talk-KA page. please comment.Dineshkannambadi 11:59, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Good job. The economy looks better, but people need to see Rs and $ figues. Just percentage won't convey the picture. We need Per capita income, GDP, GNP in dollar figues. The impact is very different when numers are provided. I read somewhere that the Per capita =~$750. Need to confirm this and compare it to national average. We need to show that in all aspects, KA is above average, which it is. We need total Rs/$ for IT, BT, floriculture. Need to mentino a few key persons. Its better to elaborate on this and reduce somewhere else.Dineshkannambadi 14:43, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

copy edit
When you have time, can you do a quick copy edit on Western Ganga Dynasty. It is in Peer review right now.Dineshkannambadi 11:21, 12 June 2007 (UTC)


 * One minor issue. reviewers like the term "such as" much more than "like", the former is English, the later is considered more American. This is why I have repeatedly used "such"Dineshkannambadi 11:50, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

KA
I had a problem with the List of "National Highways in India#Karnataka|List of National Highways in Karnataka" main article in the Transport section. can you look into that synatx. I am not sure how it works.thanksDineshkannambadi 15:20, 12 June 2007 (UTC) We need an image of Kingfisher airliner (at airport not from TV tube), Infosys, Kumble if possibleDineshkannambadi 16:10, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

AWARD

 * No, it does not convey any meaning.Dineshkannambadi 17:05, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Gangas
Thanks for the copy edits.Dineshkannambadi 23:21, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

KA
I have added more info to "Culture". Please copy editDineshkannambadi 01:31, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

bar chart
For demographics looked good.Dineshkannambadi 02:23, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Would it be possible to get % of Kannada speakers per district info. I dont mean for this article, but in general.Dineshkannambadi 02:38, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Vijayanagar
It was a Telugu empire established by Telugu brothers Hakka and Bukka, who were Golla Nayaks employed in the court of Kakatiya King Prataparudra. They were captured when Warangal fell to muslims, taken to Delhi and converted to Islam. They were sent to subdue Hoysala king by Delhi sultanate. They did it but got reconverted to Hinduism under the influence of Vidyaranya and established Vijayanagar kingdom. See Robert Sewell's "Vijayanagar: A Forgotten Chapter of Indian History". A large number of local books and webpages will give false and biased information going against Sewell's well researched history.Kumarrao 05:34, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

KA
The Geography section should really include a map of KA showing the various geographies viz. Mil ranges, plains, water bodies, semi-malnd etc, rather than the Kudremukh peak. Can you find one such map and draw it.?Dineshkannambadi 17:56, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Reply
1.Can you tell me which fact has been distorted by me?

2.I made an input in the article with proper citation. Is it wrong?

3. Scores of Kannada related articles in Wiki refer to blogs, webpages, ameturish historians etc., (E.g. Jyotsna Kamath's Potpourri; www.ourkarnataka.com; www.prabhu50g.com; www.kamat.com etc.,). Kannada history articles copiously quote two authors viz., Kamat and Arthikaje. The former got his book published by a local publisher. The latter writes history in a website on Karnataka. By which standard they become authoritative historians?

4.On the other hand, the website I refer belong to a well-known lingusitand scgolar of Dravidian language scripts.

Kumarrao 15:36, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

A Significant Milestone in Portal:Karnataka
Efforts on Karnataka WikiProject and Karnataka Portal have resulted in a major milestone today. We have now 50 Karnataka related DYKs contributed to Wikipedia. So many of them are from you, having wide range of the topics. Great going, and indeed a significant achievement. Thank YOU and Congratulations!!!

Thank you again for not missing updating any of the DYK in this page: Portal:Karnataka/Did you know/List of Featured DYKs related to Karnataka - KNM Talk 19:19, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Kannada in computing
I'd like to thankyou for your Kannada specific articles. THis is the beauty of the internet and wikipedia. People across the world can write about their home place to attempt to ensure this is a global encyclopedia not an American or English encyclopedia. Good work! Hope you are well ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦  "Expecting you"    Contribs 09:27, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

I've just seen all your DYK's also. Wow!! You are an invaluable member of the community!!!! I won't give you another barnstar as I see you've had many but I'll second one of them if this is ok ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦  "Expecting you"    Contribs 09:30, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

I've put about 45,000 edits into wikipedia. I have during the course also added Indian articles both of which were DYK'S Joymati and Indramalati and Uttara (film). See also Abbas Kiarostami my first featured article. I have also worked extensively on Tibet setting up the wikiproject and creating article slike History of European exploration in Tibet. I am also trying to add all the Hungarian painters/sculptors to wikipedia and also create a wildlife series by country like Wildlife of Pakistan. These lists are being drawn up by me:

Many though are minor edits - I am quite liberal with the edit button!!!!!! Incidentally I looked at the Flora and fauna of Karnataka about three minutes ago -great article. That snake guy looks a character!!! Would you be happy to name the page Wildlife of Karnataka? THis way I can connect the state wildlife articles in the main Indian wildlife template ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦  "Expecting you"    Contribs 09:53, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Here is the Indian wildlife template I created:

♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Expecting you"    Contribs 09:37, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Asian science and technology
Hi Amar. I know you like to contribute articles releative to your native state of Karnataka but as you seem to have a good knowledge of science and technology so I have a request. I would like to learn about science and technology in Asia -disappointingly most articles are not existent very surpisingly most are missing. The articles even if stubbed would be a start -I'm sure there is some info to go on. Up for a challenge?. All in due course naturally but let me know if you'd like to help out. Amazingly there is not even an article on Science and technology in Asia - imagine the potential of that!! Hope you are well

♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Expecting you"    Contribs 16:47, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

25 DYK Milestone
Amar, Hearty Congratulations, on this significant milestone of yours. Very Very much appreciated! Thank you and keep up the great job! - KNM Talk 15:27, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Banking
Amar, Banking in Karnataka can be a good DYK material, right? Gnanapiti 15:13, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh, OK cool. That's a very interesting article. Gnanapiti 16:00, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

your comments on dyk nom - economy of uttar pradesh
i have substitued the nom. kindly strike off your comments. thanks, 05:25, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

DYK
Oh yeah, thanks Amar. Actually I wanted to bring this up with you. Thanks for acting fast. Gnanapiti 15:05, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

When you have time
can you cpedit Medieval Kannada literature? thanks.Dineshkannambadi 02:40, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Great job
Hello Amar, Just stopped by to compliment your phenomenal work on all these Karnataka FACs and DYKs. Great job. -- Naveen  (talk) 17:15, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Karnataka in WP:India Peer Review
FYI: WikiProject India/Peer review/Karnataka - KNM Talk 17:58, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Fair Use
Howdy! I removed the speedy tag you applied to Image:Devaneya Pavanar Stamp.jpg as it wasn't a legit speedy rationale. I've instead left a message for the uploader asking them to attach a fair-use rationale, if they fail to do so, the image will then be removed under that element of copyright policy. Regards, C HAIRBOY (☎) 13:50, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Any reproduction of an Indian stamp image is clearly copyvio as has been mentioned in the webpage of the Indian Postal Department. I am not sure what kind of fair use rationale would allow the copyvio to be rectified... -- Amarrg 13:59, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
 * While organizations can claim copyright on media, Fair use exists as a method for using that when needed to make the encyclopedia. For example, if there was an article about the Coca-Cola logo, the fact that it's copyrighted doesn't mean that we're unable to show the logo in the context of an article about it.  Please review WP:FU to see the privileges and restrictions surrounding fair-use and its role on Wikipedia.  Also, please note that en.Wikipedia is based in the United States, so the US law applies. - C HAIRBOY  (☎) 14:41, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Western GD
Thanks.Dineshkannambadi 14:10, 29 June 2007 (UTC)