User talk:AmazingJus/sandbox/capeflats

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Collins & Mees (1990)
I have a feeling that you might be using too much material from that source, and that the wording is too close to it. You should work on it so that your edits don't get revdeleted per WP:COPYVIO. Just a friendly reminder. Kbb2 (ex. Mr KEBAB) (talk) 10:47, 7 September 2018 (UTC)

This may also apply to your other drafts. Again, I don't mean to be nosy or authoritarian, but if you use too much of a source and the wording is too close to it someone could eventually see that and report a copyright violation (and understandably so). Kbb2 (ex. Mr KEBAB) (talk) 11:12, 7 September 2018 (UTC)


 * Hi! I am aware of that - I try my best to not copy the text word-by-word. I also try my best to evade close paraphrasing. Also, I do believe using citations removes the idea of plagarism. Again, you or I can reword the text so it sounds less direct ;) — oi yeah nah mate amazingJUSSO ... [ɡəˈdæɪ̯]! 22:16, 7 September 2018 (UTC)


 * It's not just about not copying the text word-by-word or evading close paraphrasing. If your text is too detailed (that is, if it cites any given material too extensively) then that's also problematic.


 * I'm not the best judge of this. You should ask someone else and/or check the text yourself.


 * Also, I do believe using citations removes the idea of plagarism. It doesn't. WP:COPYVIO still applies whether you cite the stolen material or not. Kbb2 (ex. Mr KEBAB) (talk) 23:22, 7 September 2018 (UTC)


 * Hmm... people deserve to have as much information freely as possible - with Cardiff I did my best to make use for more than one source (perhaps its the great quality of the content that makes up for the amount of text!). But nobody had seemed to object to my edits yet - yet I see other phonology articles that you and Peter238 had edited using one specific source extensively. — oi yeah nah mate amazingJUSSO ... [ɡəˈdæɪ̯]! 00:13, 8 September 2018 (UTC)


 * Tell me which ones and I'll have a look at them. Kbb2 (ex. Mr KEBAB) (talk) 01:10, 8 September 2018 (UTC)


 * Articles such as Chemnitz dialect, Weert dialect and especially Orsmaal-Gussenhoven dialect all use one source. Perhaps I don't need to use a lot of example words in the article? Or just simply check on my edits on Cardiff English (which I'll do in some time)? I can't do much at the moment as I am busy with other things - you may also edit this sandbox to help with making the edits sound less direct :) — oi yeah nah mate amazingJUSSO ... [ɡəˈdæɪ̯]! 01:22, 8 September 2018 (UTC)


 * WP:COPYVIO isn't the same as WP:ONESOURCE. An article can be sourced with a single source and still not violate any copyrights, which seems to be the case with Weert dialect. On the other hand, Chemnitz dialect, Orsmaal-Gussenhoven dialect and Hamont dialect did look as if there were some copyvios in them so I've fixed them. Luxembourgish phonology and Help:IPA/Luxembourgish should also be checked and that's what I'll do.


 * Try doing it yourself first. I can't even access Coupland (1988). Kbb2 (ex. Mr KEBAB) (talk) 12:17, 8 September 2018 (UTC)


 * Also, this should probably be your priority right now. The fact that nobody had objected to your edits before I posted here doesn't mean much, this is (or at least could be) a rather serious issue. Kbb2 (ex. Mr KEBAB) (talk) 12:32, 8 September 2018 (UTC)


 * Ah bugger. Although I do appreciate on your considerations of the Dutch and Limburgish dialects - like I said I'm quite busy in my real life, but at least I can to remove some examples or perhaps use my own... — oi yeah nah mate amazingJUSSO ... [ɡəˈdæɪ̯]! 12:44, 8 September 2018 (UTC)


 * P.S. You should have raised this up a lot earlier - all this time I thought I was okay with this! — oi yeah nah mate amazingJUSSO ... [ɡəˈdæɪ̯]! 12:46, 8 September 2018 (UTC)


 * Promise to get on to this in the next week or so — oi yeah nah mate amazingJUSSO ... [ɡəˈdæɪ̯]! 12:55, 8 September 2018 (UTC)


 * Oh, I misread what you wrote as busy with other drafts. No worries, then.


 * The fact that I acknowledge that this is a serious issue should tell you that I didn't notice it before ;) Kbb2 (ex. Mr KEBAB) (talk) 12:57, 8 September 2018 (UTC)


 * Also, the way I accessed Coupland 1988 was signing an account here, but this is a little secretive, hehe... — oi yeah nah mate amazingJUSSO ... [ɡəˈdæɪ̯]! 13:01, 8 September 2018 (UTC)

Don't worry
What you've did on this draft was totally fine... just with the vowel being heard as, it is in Coupland 1988, but rather worded along the lines of "bet, let, pit as bit, let, pit respectively". — oi yeah nah mate amazingJUSSO ... [ɡəˈdæɪ̯]! 23:01, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Did some adjustments so as not to closely word it to the original sources — oi yeah nah mate amazingJUSSO ... [ɡəˈdæɪ̯]! 23:01, 14 September 2018 (UTC)

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