User talk:Amkgp/Archive 11

Melting hadrons, boiling quarks
Dear Amkgp, I saw your comment about possible violation. Please note that the entire book was published under CC-BY-NC, so in my view the content is free to re-use and mix on sites like Wikipedia as long as the source is properly quoted. I will be happy to take further advice.

Regards Bibliophilen (talk)

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Relisting AfD
You have voted "keep" on Articles for deletion/Gaurav Taneja. You should not be the one to "relist" since you are involved in the AfD. Generally I believe that contentious AfDs such as this should be left to uninvolved admins since they have ability to "delete" the page if needed. Otinflewer (talk) 16:16, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
 * , It applies for WP:NACD and WP:BADNAC not for WP:RELIST. Please revisit the policies. ~ Amkgp  💬  16:24, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
 * what exactly are you citing here? You, as a voter on the AFD, cannot relist it. Praxidicae (talk) 16:35, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
 * A relist is a type of administrative action, and therefore involved editors should not be relisting. If you really want to be nitpicky about WP:RELIST, it says debates should not be relisted more than twice (and that bolding is on the page!). I have undone your relist. Primefac (talk) 16:50, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
 * , I apologize for the mistake. It was never done in bad faith. Taking a learning from mistakes can I relist debates where I am not-involved next time? Thank you. ~ Amkgp 💬  18:02, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Taking aside the issue of involved, for which I have already apologized. I am asking for clarity only, why these debates  Articles for deletion/Markus U. Diethelm, Articles for deletion/Honey Bafna and especially Articles for deletion/Lithuanian Medical Students' Association and Articles for deletion/Christian Duffy are relisted more than twice as WP:RELIST says debates should not be relisted more than twice. Thank you  ~ Amkgp  💬  18:41, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Should not is not must not, and sometimes a discussion does need a third relist. For clarity, I undid your relist because you participated in the discussion; my comment regarding the fact that it was a third relist was to show you that even if you are going to nitpick your justification for relisting despite commenting, you shouldn't have done it in the first place. Primefac (talk) 19:27, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
 * , I got what you wanted to highlight. Now, as I have understood my fault can I participate in AfD relisting only where I am not involved and there is a relist need/or would be benefited. Thank you ~ Amkgp  💬  19:40, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi Amkgp - Primefac may choose to answer your question to them, but if you don't mind I'll give you my thoughts on the matter. First things first - while a relist doesn't close a discussion, it should only happen because someone acting as a closer has carefully considered the other available options, and decided that relisting is the best choice. If you have participated in a discussion by offering an opinion, you can not take on the role of closing that discussion, and so relisting is not something you should ever consider doing if you have participated.
 * Then we come onto the question of whether you can 'participate in AfD relisting' where you are not involved. I wonder whether you have read WP:RELISTBIAS? While WP:NACAFD invites non-admins to close discussions that are clear and obvious keeps, it does not mention relists. While I am not telling you that you may not relist AfD discussions, I'd like to suggest that you do not. Certainly you shouldn't consider it to be a routine maintenance task that needs someone to come along and do it - it's actually rarely helpful, far too many unnecessary relists occur at AfD, and in most circumstances it would be better to allow an admin to review and decide whether other options (like a soft delete) is the better outcome. Girth Summit  (blether)  10:34, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
 * , Thanks for the detailed explanation. I had gone through the essays you mentioned before starting to contribute at AfD venue, but somehow I overlooked the important things. I have apologized for the actions and would be careful from next time. I have decided to limit my participation on 'relisting'. Thank you ~ Amkgp  💬  10:48, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
 * , thanks. I think that if someone wants to participate at AfD, the most useful thing they can do is to read the articles that the discussions are about carefully, look for sources, consider notability, and then actually participate in the discussions! Girth Summit  (blether)  10:54, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

Re: whatculture speedy deletion
Hi if another editor removes the speedy tag it is an indication that the speedy deletion is not completely uncontroversial. It is best if you nominate that article for deletion rather than revert. G4 is for articles that are almost exactly the same as the previously deleted one. Considering the sources are newer than the deletion this is unlikely to apply. This was already declined by another user and therefore may be controversial and there was a contest both from the creator and another user on the talk page. Any user who is not the page creator can remove a speedy tag and it is not necessarily a good idea to reinstate it. I didn't get a notification that you had undone it because you used Twinkle and only saw it on my watchlist. Thanks for your time. PainProf (talk) 20:11, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: See also: Aftab Shivdasani filmography
Hello Amkgp. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of See also: Aftab Shivdasani filmography, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: This is an attempt at a split, so the CSD doesn't apply. Whether the split is valid or not is not material to CSD, and should be discussed. I will move this page to a better name (without the 'See also: ' prefix without a redirect as this title is clearly wrong. . Thank you.   Ged  UK  10:13, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Page is now at Aftab Shivdasani filmography Ged  UK  10:14, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thank you ~ Amkgp 💬  07:47, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for quick response.
Hi there, I have a lot of extra information on the person of Paddy Sharkey. He would be regarded highly in Ireland with very little internet infomation about him. As my first wiki article, I probably need a lot of help. Thank you for your message. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eat1more (talk • contribs) 12:41, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
 * , Please go through your first article for a beginner's guide to Wikipedia editing and article creation. If you have any other questions about your editing please ask at Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! Thank you ~ Amkgp  💬  15:25, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

Death of Neda Agha-Soltan
Sorry, can I ask why I was pinged? I haven't edited that article in over a decade -- or am I missing something? Josh Milburn (talk) 16:12, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
 * The ping came from WP:Requests for page protection, where your opinion is requested. Favonian (talk) 21:45, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
 * There is a consensus in moving the page Death of Neda Agha-Soltan → Shooting of Neda Agha-Soltan, but the page is move protected. I kindly request to remove move protection temporarily/transfer protection to proposed move. See the move discussion Talk:Death_of_Neda_Agha-Soltan. Thank you all ~ Amkgp  💬  01:28, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
 * My question was why I was being contacted, and I'm afraid I'm none the wiser. If the ping was for me personally: I have no opinion on this and I am not involved. If the ping was for me as a random uninvolved administrator: I've never really done any work at RFPP. I'm sure a regular there will be along to help out soon enough. Josh Milburn (talk) 08:41, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
 * , Actually I pinged because the log popped up your name. See Special:Protection log. I will wait for a response at WP:RFPP or ask someone to help. Thank you ~ Amkgp  💬  10:40, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
 * The plot thickens! J Milburn merely moved the page, carrying along the protection. According to the log of the original title, the move protection was actually due to . This should be a good test for admin long-term memory. Favonian (talk) 10:57, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
 * and Thank you for all the help.  ~ Amkgp  💬  14:02, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Tom harrison's edit and move protections expired at 12:34, 22 June 2009 (yes, he moved the protections and cancelled them from the same moment).  Yet at 14:12, 23 June The Anome moved protection settings to Neda Agha-Soltan.   Is it possible to move non-existent settings?   At the same instant The Anome deleted Neda Agha-Soltan.   At 20:24, 23 June 2009  moved protection settings from Neda Agha-Soltan to Death of Neda Agha-Soltan.   How can protection settings be moved from a deleted page?   And what (if anything) happened between 14:12 and 20:24 on 23 June 2009? 2A00:23C5:E117:6100:A145:30B4:5C48:5510 (talk) 10:53, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

Review
Hi, thanks for your prompt Review. Now learning how to input/structure sources and find my way around! (Artfact83 (talk) 08:26, 7 July 2020 (UTC))

Request on 10:48:20, 7 July 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Wikiweb
Hello, Amkgp! I saw that my draft Elena Tarasova may be deleted. Please, help me to understand this problem. There is the page of Elena Tarasova in russian Wikipedia. This russian source allows to use the material with the license GFDL / CC-BY-SA. This artist has the license GFDL / CC-BY-SA and there is the information about it on the official website of Elena. In the "References" I give a link to a Russian source Wikipedia. The website https://www.truearttv.com/elena-tarasova - it's not a source, it's a copy of the official biography of this artist with the license GFDL / CC-BY-SA.

Wikiweb (talk) 10:48, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
 * , As per Wikipedia copyright policy, it violates as per WP:COPYVIO with a violation of 86.6%. The copy source is attributed with Designed by World Musicians League in 2020, All rights reserved © at the end of the page. ~ Amkgp  💬  10:59, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

What is the difference
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Robinson

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helen_Clark

What is the difference in terms of language in these two profiles as compared to the one I submitted? Is it race? Help me understand — Preceding unsigned comment added by WanjohiK (talk • contribs) 23:05, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
 * , The draft language suggests it to be biased where as the other two articles are written from a neutral point of view. If you are closely connected with the draft subject or writing on behalf, then you also need to declare WP:COI or WP:UPE. ~ Amkgp  💬  02:43, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

I must admit those two were the templates I used to get the draft. Bias? If I was I would have declared. I will review again and resubmit. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by WanjohiK (talk • contribs) 09:27, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

Need Help to make change in Wikipedia articles
Hey Amkgp, actually I am little bit confused and I am not actually accustomed with the Wikipedian environment. Can you provide me some sort of tutorials and other major details on how to make changes in Wikipedia.

Cheers Diptanil Saha (talk) 05:45, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
 * , You can go through A primer for newcomers. Also you can have a look at your first article for a beginner's guide to Wikipedia editing and article creation. If you have any other questions about your editing please ask at Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! Thank you ~ Amkgp  💬  05:49, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
 * , thanks Diptanil Saha (talk) 05:59, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Request for assistance on AfC submission by Saket.agrahari
Hi ,I see you have declined my submission. I have added further more citation which includes some leading news paper articles and online news channel. Please assist which item needs to edit to make this article published. I added citation from The Times Of India The Telegraph which are leading news portal. I have re-submitted please review it and help me moving this to article space. Its in pending review for last 3 weeksSaket.agrahari (talk) 23:21, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

AFD Shamsher Singh (journalist)
Hello Amkpg! I wanted your help in my article which was nominated for deletion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Shamsher_Singh_(journalist Please help me as I dont want my article to be deleted after all our efforts.SinghPurnima72 (talk) 10:09, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
 * , Stay calm and  have a look at AFD. Hope it helps. Regards  Megan Barris   (Lets talk📧)  13:49, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes I have looked at that but the editor of the AFD hasn′t responded since many days. That′s why I need Amkpg′s help in saving my article.SinghPurnima72 (talk) 04:59, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
 * , I see you have tried to defend based on the merits of the article. Community will certainly go through everything before taking the final decision. Please have patience and follow If an article is sent to Articles for Deletion. ~ Amkgp  💬  05:15, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
 * So, do you think that it will be saved or will it be deleted? I wrote my article in a perfect way so that it is completely neutral and it also meets the Notability criteria of Wikipedia, but, the editor nominated my article because she thought that it wasn′t notable. I hope that you understand my problem and support my article by participating in the consensus.SinghPurnima72 (talk) 05:45, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
 * , I am refraining from participating as it may lead to WP:CANVASS ~ Amkgp  💬  05:48, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
 * So according to you, what are the chances of it being deleted?SinghPurnima72 (talk) 05:59, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
 * , Its very difficult to say as there as been no participation other than creator and nominator. If it remains like this will either lead to WP:NOQUORUM or WP:RELIST ~ Amkgp  💬  06:07, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
 * That is why I am asking for support of editors like you. I don′t want it to be deletedSinghPurnima72 (talk) 06:09, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

Regarding AFD RJ Tazz
Hello Amkgp! I want your cooperation saving the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/RJ_Tazz Hope you are doing well. I have seen that you have to relist the consensus. The Page has so many strong news citation which can easily pass the GNG and hope and believe you have seen the notable link of Bangladeshi top Daily news references from Jugantar_Patrika Kaler_Kantho Jagonews24.com Daily_Sun_(Bangladesh) Dhaka_Tribune and more. I would be so grateful if you help me out to rescue the pages and guide me on how to develop the page. I have invested my time to create the page and dig so many resources that I don't want to make a waste of my efforts. Please help me to do more contributions and guide me. Sunny.pervez (talk) 19:46, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
 * , Sorry I may to be able to provide any additional input/help as I am not an expert to the related subject listed for AFD ~ Amkgp  💬  06:09, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

What should I do now dear ? I have spend a good time on it. Sunny.pervez (talk) 06:11, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

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Unexpected closing of a requested move
Hi.

Please avoid closing requested move discussions like you did at Talk:Manila_Metro_Rail_Transit_System. The last reply to the thread was literally within 48 hours, yet you closed it as "no consensus". It's quite disappointing, especially that this is a series of RMs involving railway lines in the Philippines. Could you please explain why you did that? I don't see any reason why you should have done it.  Hiwilms   Talk   18:39, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
 * It has been closed as per standard norms. ~ Amkgp  💬  17:34, 14 July 2020 (UTC)