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Help Needed for 'new to wiki guy '
My first wiki contribution was rejected by Amkgp Kindly guide me to how it works, As im interested in film journalism i started my first wiki page just on that topic and made a bit of research as well , Kindly help me to make a clear and professional approach to add the wiki page Ajmal Koya — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pro.crew.film (talk • contribs) 03:02, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
 * , Hello and welcome to Wikipedia, I am really sorry that you feel bad because your draft was declined. Well I got to look at the draft and sincerely it doesn’t meet our notability guidelines I.e WP:GNG and WP:NACTOR. The draft is also full of IMDB sources, please note that IMBD is not a reliable source. Please look for more sources be used to establish notability.I hope this helps, Cheers  Megan☺️   Talk to the monster  22:42, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

Abiodun Salawu
Abiodun Salawu is a professor of journalism, communication and media studies and director of Indigenous Language Media in Africa research entity at the North-West University in South Africa. He was born on December 25, 1967 to the family of Salawu Adigun and Falilat Aduke Owolabi of Asinnimorin Compound, Oja’ba, Ibadan, Oyo State, Nigeria. Abiodun holds a PhD in Communication and Language Arts of the University of Ibadan; PGD and MSc in Mass Communication of the University of Lagos; and a B.A (Hons) English Studies of the Obafemi Awolowo University, Ile- Ife. After a six-year stint in active practice of journalism, he started his professional academic career at The Polytechnic, Ibadan in 1996. In 2002, he moved to the University of Lagos and subsequently Ajayi Crowther University, Oyo where he became the pioneer Head of the Department of Communication and Media Studies. He relocated to South Africa when he took a professorial appointment with the University of Fort Hare in 2009. He later held briefly the Mazisi Kunene Chair in the School of Arts, College of Humanities, University of KwaZulu-Natal. In April 2013, he assumed duties as Professor in the Department of Communication, Mahikeng Campus of the North-West University. He proposed the establishment of a research entity, Indigenous Language Media in Africa (ILMA) which was approved by the Governing Council of the North-west University in June of 2016. He currently serves as the Director of the research entity. Abiodun’s major areas of research interest include indigenous language media, development communication, critical media studies, journalism and communication research and education as well as digital media. Professor Salawu is married to Oluseun Seyide and they are blessed with children. References http://news.nwu.ac.za/experts/abiodun-salawu https://www.ascleiden.nl/content/ASC-community/members/abiodun-salawu https://www.linkedin.com/in/abiodun-salawu-992b8a10/?originalSubdomain=za https://www.routledge.com/authors/i18187-abiodun-salawu https://journalism.co.za/abiodun-salawu/ https://www.culturalsurvival.org/news/study-promote-indigenous-language-media-africa https://za.pinterest.com/pin/313492824031462945/?nic_v2=1a11L4HCW http://wvw.ufh.ac.za/?q=news/2010/10/13/20/university-fort-hare-communications-department-hosts-unesco-centres-excellence-jo — Preceding unsigned comment added by Salawuabiodun (talk • contribs) 13:20, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
 * , Your creation Draft:Abiodun Salawu was deleted because of copyright violation. Also, I have posted other problems associated with you account on your talk-page  ~ Amkgp  💬  14:24, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

Regarding the issue of not having digital sources which can be cited
Dear Reviewers,

We had submitted an article for a government organization called the NCC in India, this particular organization is a unit of the NCC which falls under the Karnataka and Goa Directorate of NCC. It is understood from the reviewer's notes that the article submitted does not contain enough inline citations and the sources provided are not reliable. the predicament we are facing is that there are no digital sources that we can provide which may be considered reliable, and hence we would like to know if there are any other means of providing reliable sources. 1karairncc (talk) 21:09, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

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Consensus when?
I teach PhD students in editing wikipedia and for the first time in a thousand students or so, I came across the semi-protected demanded editing. A student of mine has suggested a change regarding the genome of the apple, but got as a response that he has to wait for consensus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Apple#Semi-protected_edit_request_on_14_April_2020. His question on when and how this is reached is left unanswered and I cannot give him a good answer since you own the question. Olle Terenius (UU) (talk) 20:39, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
 * It seems like your student is ignoring the comments on that talk page. Nobody has supported his/her proposed addition in the form it was suggested so you're pretty darn far from anything resembling a consensus.   Have you even read WP:CONSENSUS?  Toddst1 (talk) 20:51, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
 * If no one has opposed after a whole week, then yes they have consensus. "Not done for now, get consensus" is in my view an overused template. – Thjarkur (talk) 10:06, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I tend to agree. See comments at Talk:Apple.  Toddst1 (talk) 23:01, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
 * In this case, the text is written by a researcher with knowledge about the apple genome and reflects the consenus of the scientific community. The likelihood that another person with enough knowledge on the apple genome will step in and approve on the talk page is very small. Having one apple-genome researcher actively editing Wikipedia is probably about as many as we will get. So the consensus that Toddst1 is waiting for, is unlikely to happen. Olle Terenius (UU) (talk) 10:32, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

Al Fara'a Group - Updated
Hello,

I have updated the Al Faraa Group submission you rejected yesterday (this is my new account). I added more sources and information. Unfortunately, as it is an Arabic company in an Arabian country, reputable English-language sources are scarce, however it definitely is worth being on Wikipedia considering it is one of the UAE's largest construction companies with massive links to government, private and international stakeholders and its financial troubles were worth it to be reported even on Bloomberg. ArabianBusinessMan (talk) 17:05, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
 * , I am afraid that it is still not notable as per Notability (organizations and companies) guideliness. ~ Amkgp  💬  18:11, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

I respectfully disagree. One of the subsidaries of the company, Unibeton Ready Mix has a page and so does the founder of the company J. R. Gangaramani. The company employs thousands of people and I have seen US-based and EU-based compnaies with far less sources and impact with pages. Is there a way for this to be objectively checked by someone else? Also I do not appreciate you going to my former account's talk page and saying I violate the guidelines. I made my first edit and got banned, and my draft was rejected. Then you accuse me of being a single-issue account. I try to improve my edit on my new account and you reject it again. How exactly else would I be able to move to another page when my first keeps getting shot down for no apparent reason? ArabianBusinessMan (talk) 16:52, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

Draft:Radicale_(CalDAV)
Dear Amkgp, yesterday you declined the submission of my new page on the "Radicale" calendar software. I believe I addressed the issues: many references are now given in the References section. Also, it seems you were under the impression that this page was about a company or organization that is not notable. I now added a software infobox: this page is about software included in all major linux distributions for about a decade, and it is also available for Windows and BSD. Please have a quick look at the updated page, thanks! gerritg (talk) 19:49, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
 * , I find the draft WP:PROMOTIONAL and I am not proceeding hereafter. I hope it to be reviewed by another reviewer soon. ~ Amkgp  💬  18:09, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Dear amkgp, can you please explain: on the draft page it says you declined the submission because of lack of reliable sources. If you changed your opinion and think this page is promotional material, shouldn't you change the tag on the draft? Also, I followed the link to WP:PROMOTIONAL and there are five points. Could you please let me know which of these five points applies to the draft for the page of the Radicale solftware (Advocacy/Opinion/Scandal/Self-promotion/Advertising) ? Thanks! gerritg (talk) 11:00, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

Arjun Sapkota
I see no deleted edits for Arjun Sapkota. What name(s) was it previously created under to warrant salt? -- The SandDoctor Talk 17:07, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
 * , Arjun sapkota. See also, Sockpuppet investigations/Ssapkota23. Usedtobecool ☎️ 17:11, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you, . I just took a look at that one and agree that Arjun sapkota was G11 eligible. However, this current iteration is not. I would suggest either AfD or draftifying. I've curious how that SPI turns out & have endorsed the CU request. Those as drafts may make for good honey pots or would be G11'd anyways. -- The SandDoctor Talk 17:17, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Arjun Sapkota's deleted edits were histmerged into the currrent version. So, if you check the history, you will see multiple entries for creation. Regards! Usedtobecool ☎️ 17:18, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
 * , thanks for the help and initiating the SPI case. I could also find few of the similarities you mentioned in the editing pattern but was not sure enough to proceed. Thanks, for posting the reasons behind the G11 decline. ~ Amkgp  💬  18:04, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Arjun sapkota still contains edits, multiple page creations, and 3 deletion logs as well. At best right now, I would suggest either AfD or draftifying for Arjun Sapkota, though the SPI may change the available options depending on CU findings. -- The SandDoctor Talk 18:19, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
 * , AfD initiated ~ Amkgp  💬  18:48, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

THIS IS NOT AN ADVERTISING PAGE
ITS JUST AN INFORMATION ABOUT A COLLEGE WHICH IS SITUATED IN PATNAJivyam (talk) Jivyam —Preceding undated comment added 19:02, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
 * , Please read Notability criteria before a creating article

THIS IS NOT AN ADVERTISING PAGE
This methology of deleting information for the alleged suspicion of promotion is not constructive. It is not constructive to waste time reiterating these concepts. --Peter39c (talk) 19:08, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
 * , Please do not remove the speedy delete notices by yourself. The revieweing admin will remove it. Removing speedy delete notices by creator is considered WP:VANDALISM in Wikipedia. ~ Amkgp  💬  19:11, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

(by The SandDoctor  Talk 15:38, 4 October 2020 (UTC)) --Peter39c (talk) 19:12, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
 * , Please be polite in your replies as per WP:CIVIL criteria. ~ Amkgp  💬  19:17, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

Wp:RM : Aesthetic canon
You relisted this RM without giving a reason. This is the first time I have done an RM, so would you explain your rationale, please? Should I have changed the template invocation to give the revised proposed name? Something else? (We didn't ever expect a lot of input but I admit to being surprised that precisely zero other people contributed. I left notifications at the arts wikiproject and on the talk pages of related articles.) --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 16:28, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
 * , I have relisted so that more people can go through your new proposal so that a consensus is reached rather than staying idle on the 'backlog' section ~ Amkgp  💬  17:57, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Its OK to notify the concerned wikiprojects ~ Amkgp  💬  18:01, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

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Regarding a article
Hi Amkgp, Please go through the page Raja Sham Raj Bahadur once again. That was the quote that i added into the page. Thanks - MRRaja001 (talk) 14:18, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
 * , Its still showing WP:COPYVIO of 79%. The deleting admin will asses your reasons on Talk:Raja Sham Raj Bahadur before making the decision. ~ Amkgp  💬  14:31, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Which part of the article are you talking about. - MRRaja001 (talk) 15:03, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
 * , I have applied Copyvio-revdel. No issues. It was generated from the quotes ~ Amkgp  💬  15:10, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

Taxon articles at AfC
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Regarding Draft-Shubham Shashank
This page is not unambiguously promotional, because... (The article has been written on a very young startup owner who had a legal company and many newspapers which are very reliable in India has published his work. Please try to understand the article.) The article is on very young businessman having a business which is in collaboration by the biggest health institute of India. Which is Incubated at the biggest incubator of India. Cloudspital (talk) 14:50, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
 * , Wikipedia is not a place for WP:PROMOTION. Please go through Notability (people) . ~ Amkgp  💬  14:55, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

Sir, the article is on an innovator who is notable in his area and has been working on social issues ona a large scale. If you still think that it is promotion you shall move ahead and delete the article ☺️ Cloudspital (talk) 14:59, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

Bad NAC
This closure is a WP:BADNAC. It's obviously contentious and offers no consideration of all comments calling for merging or outright dismissal of this as a concept at all, nor of the perfunctory ITSJUSTNOTABLE type keep !votes. Please revert. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon &bull; videos) 15:18, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
 * , I think its your personal opinion. Anyways I am opening on your request. ~ Amkgp  💬  15:20, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

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Request for help
Hi, Amkgp! Please, help me to improve the article to make it clear to Wiki that it does not run under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion (BreakingMuse (talk) 14:43, 20 October 2020 (UTC))

help me
 * I have nullified the "help me" template; it is not necessary to place one when you are requesting help from a specific editor, since it alerts everyone who monitors use of the template, not just the person you're trying to interact with. Best, Blablubbs (talk • contribs) 14:59, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
 * , the draft is WP:PROMOTIONAL in nature and promotes the company only. It lacks WP:RS in references. Majority of references do not show significant coverage (only passing mentions) that are loosely related to the subject. The remaining references are self published. Please go through Notability (organizations and companies), if the draft survives and you create similar things next time. ~ Amkgp  💬  18:18, 20 October 2020 (UTC)