User talk:Ammarpad/Archive 1

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What we can do from wikipedia ? Manish Dangi (talk) 16:53, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, this will be helpful. What pages are you talking about? Again, thanks. Onceuponax (talk) 00:17, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Farooq Kperogi
Hello, Ammarpad. I wanted to let you know that I’m proposing an article that you started, Farooq Kperogi, for deletion because it's a biography of a living person that lacks references. If you don't want Farooq Kperogi to be deleted, please add a reference to the article.

If you don't understand this message, you can leave a note on my talk page.

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Reference errors on 15 April
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Nafisa Abdullahi
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Speedy deletion nomination of Nafisa Abdullahi
Hello Ammarpad,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Nafisa Abdullahi for deletion, because it seems to be copied from another source.

If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to rewrite it in your own words, you can contest this deletion, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Supdiop (talk) 10:58, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

File permission problem with File:Ali-nuhu.jpeg
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Possibly unfree File:Defaultpic.jpg
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Your addition to the article Ibrahim Zakzaky
I have just removed some of the material you added to the article Ibrahim Zakzaky. It was copied directly from the report and is under copyright. Material in Wikipedia in most cases cannot be copied from material written anywhere else. See FAQ/Copyright. Please rewrite in your own words. Thank you. StarryGrandma (talk) 22:22, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

Please read this message
Ammarpad,

you seem to be ignoring copyright. I've just deleted your uploaded images as obvious copyright violations (you took Nafisa-abdullahi.jpeg from http://hausafilms.tv/_media/wiki/actress/nafisat_abdullah/nafisat_abdullahi3.jpg). You don't seem to have read or understood the above messages. Wikipedia does not accept images or text taken or copied from other places. If you continue to taken images or text from other places, use them here, or claim that you own them, you may be blocked from editing or uploading - Peripitus (Talk) 23:54, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Please why are you just deleting everything I contributed? You just deleted all my files which some I took with my own camera. The page you claimed I copied image for Nafisa Abdullahi, I have the file since 2013 before they upload it. Then what of my 5 other files? Tell me where I copied them? I have been editing wikipedia anynomously since 2012, I just decided to register in 2015 to contribute more but you're just unkind. Ammarpad 17:51, 24 April 2015 (UTC)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ammarpad (talk • contribs)

The files were copied from If they are your images how can i see higher resolution versions on webpages. If the images are yours why can I see these other versions on such a wide variety of websites ? - Peripitus (Talk) 07:41, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
 * File:Zaria-quds-2014.jpeg - copied from http://i.cdnnaij.com/o/joMbqseutjcnD0hABsxsInxv.jpg
 * File:Abuzaria.jpeg - copied from a much higher resolution image File:Ahmadu_bello_university_senate.jpgon commons that is someone else's yet you claimed it was yours
 * File:Nafisa-abdullahi.jpeg - copied from http://hausafilms.tv/_media/wiki/actress/nafisat_abdullah/nafisat_abdullahi3.jpg where it has been since at least January 2013.
 * File:Ali-nuhu.jpeg - a poor low res copy of https://media.premiumtimesng.com/wp-content/files/2014/07/Ali-Nuhu-2.jpg
 * File:Ncc-website-homepage-as-appeared-on-17-april-2015.png - copied from ncc.gov.ng
 * File:Husainiyya.png - copied from http://www.imnig.org/sites/default/files/DSCN4427.JPG
 * File:Defaultpic.jpg - copied from http://media.biztechafrica.com/media/images/stories/_thumbs/nccbuilding_1_jpg_410x270_upscale_q85.jpg
 * File:Farooqkperogi.jpeg - copied from his homepage http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-hGCyWJ9G1ZI/T6Ca9haz67I/AAAAAAAABlk/uQn8oGnHv7k/s640/Dr.%2BFarooq%2BKperogi.jpeg

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Speedy deletion nomination of Farooq Kperogi


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Gadzama
I have no time for unnecessary arguments. You did not take the time to research Gadzama and came to the wrong conclusion that Gadzama as an ABU alum is something I came up with. Here's a link from the Nigerian State Security Service about Gadzama: https://dss.gov.ng/index.php/aboutus/leadership/item/115-afas-adua-gadzama/115-afas-adua-gadzama

Kunkuru (talk) 09:03, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

So your issue was the fact that I was "cutting across and inserting him"? Are you kidding? I made no mistake. You are the one who deleted Gadzama so it was your mistake and not mine. I'm glad you've learned your lesson to make sure you do your homework before deleting. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kunkuru (talk • contribs) 09:46, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

List of books about the Troubles
Hello, would you like to participate in the discussion of moving the article from a "list of books" to "bibliography" here: Talk:List of books about the Troubles. Thank you IQ125 (talk) 19:10, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

April 2015
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Contests
User:Dr. Blofeld has created WikiProject Africa/Contests. The idea is to run a series of contests/editathons focusing on each region of Africa. He has spoken to Wikimedia about it and $1000-1500 is possible for prize money. As someone who has previously expressed interest in African topics, would you be interested in contributing to one or assisting draw up core article/missing article lists? He says he's thinking of North Africa for an inaugural one in October. If interested please sign up in the participants section of the Contest page, thanks.♦ -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 01:11, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

Wiki Loves Women- Monthly Contest
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Invite to the African Destubathon
Hi. You may be interested in participating in the African Destubathon which starts on October 15. Africa currently has over 37,000 stubs and badly needs a quality improvement editathon/contest to flesh out basic stubs. There are proposed substantial prizes to give to editors who do the most geography, wildlife and women articles, and planned smaller prizes for doing to most destubs for each of the 53 African countries, so should be enjoyable! Even if contests aren't your thing we would be grateful if you could consider destubbing a few African articles during the drive to help the cause and help reduce the massive 37,000 + stub count, of which many are rated high importance (think Regions of countries etc). If you're interested in competing or just loosely contributing, whether it's a river in Malawi, a Nigerian footballer, or a South African civil rights activist, please add your name to the Contestants/participants section. Diversity of work from a lot of people will make this that bit more special. For those of you who signed up to the North African contest, that will hopefully be held in the new year. Thanks. --MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 21:11, 6 October 2016 (UTC)

Asian 10,000 Challenge invite
Hi. The WikiProject Asia/The 10,000 Challenge has recently started, based on the UK/Ireland The 10,000 Challenge and WikiProject Africa/The 10,000 Challenge. The idea is not to record every minor edit, but to create a momentum to motivate editors to produce good content improvements and creations and inspire people to work on more countries than they might otherwise work on. There's also the possibility of establishing smaller country or regional challenges for places like South East Asia, Japan/China or India etc, much like The 1000 Challenge (Nordic). For this to really work we need diversity and exciting content and editors from a broad range of countries regularly contributing. At some stage we hope to run some contests to benefit Asian content, a destubathon perhaps, aimed at reducing the stub count would be a good place to start, based on the current WikiProject Africa/The Africa Destubathon which has produced near 200 articles in just three days. If you would like to see this happening for Asia, and see potential in this attracting more interest and editors for the country/countries you work on please sign up and being contributing to the challenge! This is a way we can target every country of Asia, and steadily vastly improve the encyclopedia. We need numbers to make this work so consider signing up as a participant! Thank you. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 01:07, 20 October 2016 (UTC)

Europe 10,000 Challenge invite
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September 2017
Hello, I'm Zackmann08. Thank you for your recent contributions to Nigerian Television Authority. I noticed that when you added the image to the infobox, you added it as a thumbnail. In the future, please do not use thumbnails when adding images to an infobox (see WP:INFOBOXIMAGE). What does this mean? Well in the infobox, when you specify the image you wish to use, instead of doing it like this:

SomeImage.jpg

Instead just supply the name of the image. So in this case you can simply do:

SomeImage.jpg.

There will then be a separate parameter for the image caption such as Some image caption. Please note that this is a generic form message I am leaving on your page because you recently added a thumbnail to an infobox. The specific parameters for the image and caption may be different for the infobox you are using! Please consult the Template page for the infobox being used to see better documentation. Thanks! Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 05:07, 4 September 2017 (UTC)

@Zackman08. Acknowledged. Thank you. Ammarpad (talk) 05:56, 4 September 2017 (UTC) Hello, I'm Oluwa2Chainz. I wanted to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions to Shehu Sani have been undone because they appeared to be promotional. Advertising and using Wikipedia as a "soapbox" are against Wikipedia policy and not permitted; Wikipedia articles should be written objectively, using independent sources, and from a neutral perspective. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about Wikipedia. Thank you. Oluwa2Chainz »» (talk to me) 22:05, 8 September 2017 (UTC)

Pending changes reviewer granted
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Being granted reviewer rights neither grants you status nor changes how you can edit articles. If you do not want this user right, you may ask any administrator to remove it for you at any time.

See also: Alex ShihTalk 16:39, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Reviewing pending changes, the guideline on reviewing
 * Pending changes, the summary of the use of pending changes
 * Protection policy, the policy determining which pages can be given pending changes protection by administrators.

Rollback granted
Hi Ammarpad. After reviewing your request for "rollbacker", I have [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=rights&user=&page=User%3AAmmarpad enabled] rollback on your account. Keep in mind these things when going to use rollback: If you no longer want rollback, contact me and I'll remove it. Also, for some more information on how to use rollback, see Administrators' guide/Rollback (even though you're not an admin). I'm sure you'll do great with rollback, but feel free to leave me a message on my talk page if you run into troubles or have any questions about appropriate/inappropriate use of rollback. Thank you for helping to reduce vandalism. Happy editing!  Malinaccier ( talk ) 15:54, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Getting rollback is no more momentous than installing Twinkle.
 * Rollback should be used to revert clear cases of vandalism only, and not good faith edits.
 * Rollback should never be used to edit war.
 * If abused, rollback rights can be revoked.
 * Use common sense.

Your edits in this article
Hi there, concerning your edits in this article here and here, please be aware that you have left the article with format errors. Using a mobile device to edit Wikipedia article can be challenging for some people at times, but please do try to be cautious when doing so. Thank you. 77.190.12.108 (talk) 17:52, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

September 2017
Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. In the future, please use the preview button before you save your edit; this helps you find any errors you have made, reduces edit conflicts, and prevents clogging up recent changes and the page history. Below the edit box is a Show preview button. Pressing this will show you what the article will look like without actually saving it.

It is strongly recommended that you use this before saving. If you have any questions, contact the help desk for assistance. Thank you. ʍaɦʋɛօtʍ (talk) 23:44, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Noted. I am trying to repair it but the network is extremely slow and reconnectng that's why it shows like I left it. Thank you. —Ammarpad (talk) 23:54, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
 * You're welcomed. It can be quite daunting editing Wikipedia via mobile which I totally understand. Thumbs up for your contributions once again! ʍaɦʋɛօtʍ (talk) 00:00, 17 September 2017 (UTC)

The Flash Reads
I saw that you removed my external wiki links on flash fiction. Instead of using an external link, I was wondering if there was another way to link the infographic located here. I feel like it adds to the flash fiction page by giving a guideline for others to use. I am not good with editing wiki pages and would like your help with this. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by The Flash Reads (talk • contribs) 17:52, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Welcome I removed your link (]) for some reasons; first: it was removed because per WP consensus external links are not allowed in article body; second: your Username  and the link you added "theflashreads.com"obviously shows your either own it or are among its owners and thus adding it in Wikipedia for traffic and promotion and that's strictly not allowed even in external links section. I will advise you to go through Wikipedia introduction pages and External links guidlines to acquaint yourself with policies and guidelines that will help you in your stay here. Also when next you comment add 4 tildes at the end like this ( ~ ) and start your comments with two colons . Thank you. –Ammarpad (talk) 19:12, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the information. It wasn't an intentional promotion. I just noticed that flash fiction was lacking information and wished to add it. If the external link is the problem, then I can supply the infographic alone with no external link. I did not know how to provide the required infographic without linking it. Please let me know if this is something that you can do or if you can walk me through it. Thank you.97.121.158.123 (talk) 20:10, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Please talk with your account so I can know whom I am talking to. Thanks –Ammarpad (talk) 20:23, 21 September 2017 (UTC)

Selfish Machines
At least give me an explanation on why my edits were inappropriate...I see no problems. I am not a vandal who deserves no edit summary. 104.39.214.203 (talk) 20:10, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Welcome. Please create an identity and let's talk. Thank you –Ammarpad (talk) 20:20, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
 * So you require people to create accounts to even talk to you? Wikipedia is supposed to be an encyclopedia which, ideally, anyone can edit, and I find your stance counter-productive. 104.39.214.203 (talk) 20:22, 21 September 2017 (UTC)

Christina Crawford
Hello,

You recently put a message on my Talk Page regarding Christina Crawford. I work for Open Road Media, and these changes were made directly by Christina as she sent me a list of exact changes make. She does not know how to use Wikipedia, and has assigned me to make these changes. This is not a conflict of interest. I am her representative, and she has every right to make sure the information on her page is accurate. Unless you'd rather have Wikipedia be inaccurate, which I do believe is the complete opposite of its purpose.

Best,

Jacob Allgeier Open Road Media — Preceding unsigned comment added by JacobAllgeier (talk • contribs) 21:21, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi, Thank you for your inquiry. First, Wikipedia and its content like article Christina Crawford can be edited by anyone in a neutral point of view and not even she (Christina Crawford) herself, can dictate what and what not be written about her.
 * Yes she has right to make sure what's written about her is accurate as you said, but not only that, it must be verifiable, balanced and neutral also. Quite often 'accurate' can be subjective, what seems accurate to her may not be so in independent sources; it's very hard for her to write about herself in objective manner, that's human nature.
 * But if she see anything libelous, clearly private information or defamatory remark she can contact the oversight team here or directly email ([mailto:oversight-en-wp@wikipedia.org oversight-en-wp@wikipedia.org])o give details and ask for its removal and they'll surely act by removing it completely from Wikipedia. When you next your reply to this comment please start your comment with two colons (::) and at the end put 4 tildes like this ( ~ ). Thank you. Ammarpad (talk) 05:32, 22 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Hi Ammarpad,


 * Thank you for explaining this to me and the rules and regulations around this. Could you please let me know which ""exact"" changes we made to Christina's page that will need to be verified? In most cases, I'm sure Christina and I can locate a source. So much inaccurate information has been put out throughout the internet about Christina in light of Mommie Dearest being published, and even if these changes we want to make seem to be cosmetic, they are important to uphold Christina's reputation.


 * Thanks for your help,


 * JacobJacobAllgeier (talk) 13:20, 22 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Let me give you one exact example. In this edits you added a paragraph thus: ""In 2000, Christina began working as Entertainment Manager for the CDA Casino and left in 2007. She then wrote and produced an award-winning regional TV series, Northwest Entertainment.""


 * You see this claim, is sourceless, questionable and likely to be challenged because we don't know whether she's truly the one who wrote and produced the series, and even whether the series truly won any award. Because there's no sources given for every Wikipedia reader to verify, and Verifiability is one of the core Wikipedia policies.
 * Get me right, I don't say you're lying, or denying your claim, but contesting your inability to provide verifiable ource. NOTE: Your comment in edit summary, claiming that the article subject ordered the edit is neither reliable nor acceptable, because anyone can change anything and claim he was asked to by the article subject. For acceptable sources of content on Wikipedia you can read this: (Reliable sources).
 * I see your patience in understanding and civil responses; and hope you'll even stay to contribute in making Wikipedia better. Your response to start with 5 colons . (I hope you now understand what it's for.). Ammarpad (talk) 16:06, 22 September 2017 (UTC)

A kitten for you!
Thank you for that. I will try my best to keep doing this.

Parzival001 (talk) 08:12, 23 September 2017 (UTC) 
 * You are welcome.
 * –Ammarpad (talk) 08:33, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

ObeyPacked edits adding subjects with no Wikipedia articles to days-of-the-year articles
Hi! I just reverted a pending edit at June 14 made by ObeyPacked and found you had reverted an edit from that account at September 22. I left an explanation of why I reverted the June 14 edit because I assumed good faith and assumed that ObeyPacked did not read the instructions in the edit window. My understanding of vandalism is that it is not failure to read instructions. While it may turn out that this editor is adding the names of friends, this is a vey new editor that ought not to be accused of vandalism so quickly. — Neonorange (talk) 12:17, 24 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Welcome I do assume good faith too that's why before I reverted him, I first checked his contributions and talk page where I found he was already given level 1 warning by  for this disruptive edit, that's why I give him level 2 caution. But perhaps I should've refactored the template a little bit to remove some words (since you know it was substituted) but I didn't, however It's by no means to bite him. Thanks. –Ammarpad (talk) 12:51, 24 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Well, ObeyPacked will be on my watch list for a while—I'll check future contributions for a week or so. I notice ObeyPacked left off editing after the notes appeared on their talk page—could be they read what we wrote. I try not to use templates. I check edits slowly anyway, so writing a custom message each time furthers my understanding without greatly extending the time I spend. I find one of the difficulties in working on Wikipeda is building good working relationships since we rarely meet face-to-face. By the way, I grew up on a farm in Georgia (U.S.) in the 1950s, but ended up working in TV news, covering events in other countries quite a bit. Thanks for replying; good to talk with you. — User:Neonorange (Phil) 13:16, 24 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your kind words. I'll surely customize my messages more often now, especially to new editors. Yes, you're right Wikipedia truly have that nature. Anyway, I am much younger, born early 1990s, interested in New media, International politics and of course Pharmacy where I'm still undergraduate. Thanks once more. –Ammarpad (talk) 15:35, 24 September 2017 (UTC)

Damolat
Hello @Ammarpad: Just wanted to clarify, My posts are not promotional material but they an Encyclopaedic discography of the artists, hence provides value as a reference to prove that the artist has truly produced those songs. Also it is legitimate information for users to see the entire discography of the artist. Kindly help revert the Undo. 02:21, 24 September 2017 (UTC)
 * On 3 may 2015, You created this article MyMusic.com.ng for your website and after some time you went on to spam several articles with the link (MyMusic.com.ng) for promotional purpose.
 * You falsely claim it's for information purpose, while you're inserting it indiscriminately everywhere, where even enough more reliable citations exist like this, this one and this one; as well as places where there's claim which was cited in another source but you intentionally inserted your spam link like this one.
 * Sorry, there's nothing I can do for you I now. You are already reported for spamming and your spam article-website (MyMusic.com.ng) which you solely created and almost solely did all its revisions. Wikipedia is not a place for advertizing or link promotion – Ammarpad (talk) 15:15, 24 September 2017 (UTC)

"Unexplained removal"
You reverted this edit because of "unexplained removal". You might want to read the edit summary. --84.19.47.74 (talk) 15:08, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Well, I really read it. One thing only is that my ES is not what I intended, and ES are unfortunately not editable
 * Now, for that issue, I read the article entirely and believe it is balanced, but removing the section as you did may suggest WP:COI, since you don't call for removal of things that flatter him. You also failed to reorganize or clean up the section, you just want outright expunging.
 * Finally, if you still don't agree or have more reasons on why the section must be expunged, I advise you to open a discussion on the talk page of the article so as to use consensus. Thank you. –Ammarpad (talk) 15:53, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

Help: My links on Pantheon, Rome
Thank you for informing me about my mistake. I have added two links and can you please check whether it is now ok or not. Thank you - Aguilar.nevah (talk) 07:06, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
 * You're welcome I have reviewed it and made some corrections. You should check and see the changes I made. Also I hope you check the links I posted on your talk page. You should specifically peruse these three to make your stay here more interesting and trouble free. These are:
 * Neutrality
 * Reliable sources and
 * Introduction.
 * Thank you. –Ammarpad (talk) 07:24, 26 September 2017 (UTC)

You are invited for discussion here
Hi there. There seems to be a misunderstanding about your repeated additions of unsourced material into this article. To avoid further disruptions of the article, you are invited to join in the discussion of the article in the article's talk page here. Thank you. 78.49.184.211 (talk) 08:47, 26 September 2017 (UTC)

The Orville
User voted web polls are not reliable sources and should not be accepted. Please stop confirming edits that use these unreliable sources. -- 109.76.225.230 (talk) 11:06, 26 September 2017 (UTC)

Fiona Graham
Hang on a second. Graham comes in and makes false and unsourced claims about needing permanent residency to be a geisha, I take them out because they are wrong and unsourced, and you're asking me to prove myself? How about asking her to prove that you need PR? (Spoiler alert: You don't need it, and she can't prove otherwise.) 180.58.226.237 (talk) 11:30, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
 * There's a source at what you're expunging, the "onus probandi" is on you to prove otherwise, else you can't remove anything because you don't like it. –Ammarpad (talk) 19:36, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

Tandem money
Be a bit slower with the revert button - it's not currently a bank - see: https://www.ft.com/content/b1499004-0d7f-11e7-b030-768954394623

It is the process of buying Harrods bank, so will likely become a bank again *in the near future* but as of today, it cannot legally be called a bank in the UK and does not trade as a bank (This is also why the company had to change it's name from Tandem Bank to Tandem Money). --109.148.187.102 (talk) 06:01, 29 September 2017 (UTC)

I'm still not clear why you keep reverting the changes - do you have a COI you need to disclose? the main body already makes it clear that they lost their banking license and I'm just altering the lede to match that. The version you revert to is factually incorrect. --109.148.187.102 (talk) 19:05, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I drafted a reply to your earlier query but yet to post it. How I can I have COI with what I don't even know it exist or not? My only concern is how you're expunging substantial volume of text and claiming it's is no longer a bank. Even if it is true, the appropriate thing to do is add subsection, explain what happened with the org or company or whatever and at the end add reliable source. But it is unacceptable for you to just arbitrarily removed large portion of text. I saw you also posted a message at talk page of MaterialScientist, I hope you can explain everything to him, for me I'll no longer engage in that. Thank you. –Ammarpad (talk) 19:23, 29 September 2017 (UTC)

Abuse of Review Powers
Why did you blindly delete everything that I added on the Northgate page, including images that I took with my own camera? AnomieBA (talk) 07:04, 1 October 2017 (UTC)
 * You're welcome @; But I have given you reason on your talk page even before you ask. I hope you'll spare some minutes to read them. Also important is Image use policy . Thank you. –Ammarpad (talk) 07:16, 1 October 2017 (UTC)

Contesting a Fula people reversion
Preface: I'm new to arguing reversions, so my apologies if protocol says that I should be doing this on Talk:Fula people instead.

To take your reverts one at a time:

I) The image of the two people was captioned "Fulani woman and man from West Africa". This is factually true, but the original photos are more specific in their captioning. The photo of the woman specifically places her in Niger and the one of the man is tagged with "Nigeria". If the photos were of someone from Madrid and Paris, captioning the photo as being of two people "from Europe" would be factually true, but intellectually misleading.

II) For the geographical origin of the Fula, I understand what you're saying about not synthesizing, but if synthesizing is out of bounds then the current phrasing is also incorrect. They are not "They are generally considered to be North African or Middle eastern in origin, at least partially." Danver (the first cite) says they are "A blend of peoples from the Middle East, North Africa, and sub-Saharan Africa . . ." As for Morel, I can go into more detail on his unreliability, but suffice it to say that the text shouldn't be used here at all. Morel relies on speculation based on circumstantial similarities between European anecdotes of Fula life and histories of ancient Egypt where he doesn't rely on discredited 19th century pseudoscience like craniometry. Skutsch says on the one hand that nobody really knows and on the other that the Fula themselves have an oral tradition of originating in Egypt or the Middle East, but so do lots of West African Muslim groups.

In short (too late!) the two responsible citations say that a) it's unclear, b) the Fula themselves claim Egypt but without evidence, and c) evidence suggests intermarrying among people from many places.

How about "They consider themselves to be originally from Egypt or the Middle East, as do many Muslim people of West Africa. Modern scholars believe them to have no single origin but rather to be a mix of peoples from the Middle East, North Africa, and Sub-Saharan Africa."

III) For their whiteness, this is not a neutral claim, so perhaps it shouldn't be in the article at all. Claiming whiteness for a people in West Africa, in the context of the colonial era, is claiming superiority for those people, regardless of what the person making the claim wants. Al Hajj Sékou Tall claims whiteness, but that is not the same as "Known as one of the three 'white'-rooted ethnic groups in West Africa". Juang says nothing about them being white. Wise relates that some people do not consider them Black and some mock them as not-Black, but in the context of this statement: "There is, of course, a long history of various ethnic groups in Northwest Africa asserting their alleged 'chosen' or unique status, especially to empower themselves at the expense of their rivals." And he later writes, ". . . social dramas surrounding issues of blood, nobility, divind election, and the maternal debt are among the most enduring themes of the cultural documents of Northwest Africa." This is part of what I mean by this claim not being neutral. I'd much rather strike this sentence entirely than try to rewrite it.

IV) Finally, about the early speculations around their origins, again it's not a neutral topic. The speculations began because the Europeans saw the darker-skinned people as subhuman or at least uncivilized. Finding an origin of a lighter-skinned people in the north or in the Middle East legitimized working more with those people to subjugate and enslave darker-skinned Africans. Here again, Morel is not a reliable source. Also, the phrase as it stands erroneously condenses Morel. Morel relates Hanno's account, says that Pliny mentions Leucæthiopes (but does not say whether Pliny and Hanno are saying the same thing about the same people), and then talks about the Tarikh al-Sudan from 800 years later. The sentence as it stands collapses all these into a statement from Pliny. In short (too late again!) a) there's no point to talking about whether the Fula are 'white' since that's an incredibly complex and contested concept and b) the sentence as it stands is incorrect. Perhaps here again we would be better off just striking the sentence beginning "In 1902".

Triplingual (talk) 20:58, 1 October 2017 (UTC) I saw you message. I will respond soon. I put this as a placeholder so for you to know I didn't ignore your grievances. Bear with me. Thanks –Ammarpad (talk) 11:46, 2 October 2017 (UTC)


 * ping Triplingual (talk) 14:56, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

My edit is correct
My edit was correct. Why would you need the source? Just go google it yourself if you think it was wrong! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Baluch95 (talk • contribs) 10:32, 2 October 2017 (UTC)

Nguyen Minh Tu
Hello, sorry for bothering.

According to Asia's Next Top Model (cycle 5), she's 24 years old. So how is it possible that Minh Tu was born in November 14, 1993? If that's the case, her stated age in Asia's Next Top Model should be 23 instead of 24.

At the time of the filming of Asia's Next Top Model, Cycle 5, Minh Tu was already 24, and the filming was in 2016.

2016 (The year the filming of AsNTM Cycle 5 started) - 1992 (The year Minh Tu was actually born) = 24 (139.193.93.93 (talk) 10:41, 2 October 2017 (UTC))

The actual filming of Asia's Next Top Model Cycle 5 started in 2016, and at that time, she was already 24 YEARS OLD. If she was born in 1993, her age in AsNTM website should be 23 instead of 24.

Even in this YouTube video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jqtwd_BH4o&t=12s, she says she's 24 years old. And that video was released before her actual birthday (November 14). (139.193.93.93 (talk) 10:36, 2 October 2017 (UTC))


 * No problem, you're welcome. The Wikipedia article Asia's Next Top Model (cycle 5) says she is 24 in 2016 (start of contest) that will inferentially means she was born 2016-24=1992. But Wikipedia article is not reliable source and cannot be used to justify 1992 in the article Nguyễn Minh Tú; that would result in "Circular reference" which is not acceptable in Wikipedia referencing.
 * If you look at the article Nguyễn Minh Tú, in the first line there's a citation wich give the source of the age in full like this ( 14 November 1993), then citation follows.
 * 2. It's not my responsibility (or any editor) to google source for you. The burden of proof is on you to give reliable source that can refute the one you met in the article (and do not give Wikipedia article as a source) it is unreliable. Otherwise leave it like that till someone find another source. Thank you –Ammarpad (talk) 11:13, 2 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Her profile in the official website of Asia's Next Top Model (http://asntm.com/tu/) clearly stated that she's 24. Was there a miscommunication between Minh Tu and the organizers of Asia's Next Top Model? (139.193.93.93 (talk) 11:29, 2 October 2017 (UTC))
 * Please why are you logging out and replying with IP? talk with you account. –Ammarpad (talk) 11:36, 2 October 2017 (UTC)


 * I forgot the password for my account. I sent a new password confirmation to my Yahoo email, and turns out the email I used for my Wikipedia account is different from my current email in Yahoo. The old email has long been disabled by Yahoo.
 * Anyway, back to the topic. Minh Tu's profile in the official website of Asia's Next Top Model clearly stated that she's 24. So, was there a miscommunication between Minh Tu and the organizers of Asia's Next Top Model regarding her age? (139.193.93.93 (talk) 11:50, 2 October 2017 (UTC))
 * Please let me understand one last thing, before we solve that amicably. Are you user  above or not? –Ammarpad (talk) 12:00, 2 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Nope. I'm actually DeshintaChandra. (139.193.93.93 (talk) 12:01, 2 October 2017 (UTC))
 * OK. If you re read this thread, you'll see where the confusing came from. After your first comment, before I reply; this user just inserted his comment without new header.
 * Back to the issue. Now you can change the date *together with the source.* Also, I am encouraging you to open a new account, you constructive input will greatly help in making Wikipedia bigger and better. Thanks. –Ammarpad (talk) 12:17, 2 October 2017 (UTC)


 * I'm afraid creating a new account will only lead me to be permanently banned for sock puppetry. (139.193.93.93 (talk) 12:20, 2 October 2017 (UTC))
 * No, I don't think so. Sock policy is clear, you can only be banned if you attempt to mislead, deceive, vandalize or disrupt; to create the illusion of greater support for a position; to stir up controversy; or to circumvent a block,.. but Sock puppetry never include users who lost their former accounts. Thanks. And I hope you'll create and ping me. –Ammarpad (talk) 12:30, 2 October 2017 (UTC)

Notice of Biographies of living persons noticeboard discussion
There is currently a discussion at Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Nguyễn Minh Tú. Thank you. -- Linguist un Eins uno 17:10, 2 October 2017 (UTC)

re Look at this
Sorry if my reversion bothered you. For sure, you were not the vandalic editor, but when you reverted a previous bunch of vandalic editions you had (inadvertently, for sure) left out this one. I just intended to revert to the last stable edition.--Gorpik (talk) 10:37, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
 * No problem, I actually checked the diff before I contact you and saw that I should have check the latest revision, but I failed to do so. But I think it is just such kind of new rollbackers who went on general rollbacking spree to showcase their new power and in the process revert many good faith edits by both IP users and those with account. Lest I forget (again); I appreciate your kind response. Thanks -Ammarpad (talk) 10:58, 3 October 2017 (UTC)

Changes to Coal
Hi Ammarpad,

You've reverted my changes twice now to Coal, so I thought we should chat. I've attempted to update the data on coal exports, admittedly without updating the totals in the table or the text above the table. My hope is that this will encourage someone else with a little more time on their hands to complete these details. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Primal400 (talk • contribs) 10:36, 5 October 2017 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. As you admitted you're adding 'partial' information and leaving the remaining for someone else to provide. The partiality of the content undoubtedly affected its wholeness and subsequently its verifiability. I understand your good intention, but to be fair providing that half information do more harm than good. If you genuinely can't update it in whole, the appropriate thing to do is to post the source you used and brief request asking for someone to update on the article's talk page. This will prevent rendering half-truth information to general Wikipedia readers and certainly encourage someone else to update it in full. And please, next time sign your comment with four tildes (~) . Thanks. –Ammarpad (talk) 11:00, 5 October 2017 (UTC)

Pending changes
Hi Ammarpad; please don't accept pending changes that add unsourced material to BLPs that have been protected specifically to prevent the addition of unsourced content as was done at Hareem Farooq. This edit was unsourced and there is no sourced material in the article that supports its inclusion. Thank you, -- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 17:54, 5 October 2017 (UTC)
 * actually I am very strict and cautious in accepting pending changes as check in Advanced Review Log will show. When I reviewed that page, I initially had the thought of rejecting it, but I accept on two grounds. First; it is not libelous or defamatory (the redline of WP about BLPs) and second my milieu and what I know in international scene is that most actresses are also producers and vice versa. However this second reason I know is limited and relative. Nonetheless, I heed the call, no more unsourced or poorly sourced content will get in through me, especially on BLPs. I assure you. Thank you. –Ammarpad (talk)
 * I don't believe that your approval of the edit was in bad faith in any way, I just wanted to provide a gentle reminder that, per Reviewing pending changes, "reviewers should take special consideration of the reason given for protection, and attempt to uphold it". In this case I protected the article specifically against the addition of unsourced content, not for BLP violations (these are different options admins can choose from in the drop down protection menu). -- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 18:57, 5 October 2017 (UTC)
 * OK, I understand. –Ammarpad (talk) 19:16, 5 October 2017 (UTC)

Roy Kiyooka
Hello,

The page I am editing is of my late uncle, Roy.

I am removing an unnecessary line which oddly describes his place of residence, in a paragraph detailing his experience as an educator. The addition of the line clutters the paragraph's message and - quite frankly - makes his biography look less professional. I hope you can respect my family's wishes to keep his biography intact. Thank you.

Jiro Kiyooka

Senior Writer, Global News. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jiro99 (talk • contribs) 04:27, 6 October 2017 (UTC)
 * @: People or their families don't have the right to dictate what is written  in their Wikipedia articles. Since you claim he is your uncle, you now have conflict of interest as you can't be objective about your family. All people who are paid to edit Wikipedia articles and those editing about themselves or their families are mandated by Wikipedia guidline to disclose this information, you can see how here: Conflict of Interest Disclosure. I expect you to  follow this way, further reverting and or expunging of content may lead to sanctioning you. Thanks –Ammarpad (talk) 04:57, 6 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Ammarpad,


 * I understand and respect you are following your guidelines.


 * However, you originally mentioned to refrain from making "unconstructive edits" to the page. It is actually a 'constructive' edit, because I am removing a line that has nothing to do with the paragraph. I don't want it removed because of the content, I would like to removed because it is poorly written. It would be like me suddenly discussing sports right now..


 * Nevertheless, if you truly insist on keeping the recently added line, go ahead.
 * - JK — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jiro99 (talk • contribs) 05:34, 6 October 2017 (UTC)
 * You're not removing the source content because it is not true, but because (in your own view) it makes the biography less professional, Wikipedia, is not for 'professional advertising' it is for what is 'verifiable'. I said it is unconstructive because you just expunged sourced content and claim it is odd, and it makes your family member biography less professional which is very lame reason.
 * Also, I hope you'll not only stick to your uncle's bio, I invite you to move ahead to thousands of Wikipedia biographies and edit constructively with reliable sources not emotion. Thank you –Ammarpad (talk) 06:06, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

In regards to your revision of my edits on Bob Coy
Hi there, You recently revised my edits on the wikipedia page on Bob Coy. I am unsure on why this was done. I didn't vandalize anything, I wasn't opinionated and the only things I changed were the person's picture to a more recent photo, changed the formatting under Biography and reworded a few things. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chrisrow (talk • contribs) 05:43, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

Markov's Inequality
Why are you reversing the edit - adequate explanation is given. The probability theory proof is wrong. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Assadows (talk • contribs) 06:03, 7 October 2017 (UTC)
 * @: you don't provide single source to back up your claim, you're only adamant it is wrong. Content are not removed/deleted on Wikipedia because someone thinks it's not true. The appropriate and easiest thing to do is find any reliable source that support your claim, and update the article with. But further arbitrary expunging without any source will not be allowed. Next time when you comment, sign your post with 4 tildes (~) . Thank you. –Ammarpad (talk) 06:16, 7 October 2017 (UTC)
 * @:Ok, easy there. I'm not "adamant" or "thinking" it is not true. I have proved it wrong with a counterexample. What else is needed in your opinion? A reference to the concept of a proof by counterexample?Assadows (talk) 14:40, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

Questions
What we can do from it ? Manish Dangi (talk) 16:54, 7 October 2017 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. Please clarify or rephrase your question. Thanks. –Ammarpad (talk) 17:01, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

Deprecated image syntax replaced
When you fix the old File: format, can you also remove the "center" or other positional parms that are no longer supported on the image= parm, and potentially the image_size too if it is not supported by the Infobox? Thanks Ahwiv (talk) 23:15, 8 October 2017 (UTC)
 * YES. I always do. Let me give you TEN examples. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, and 10.
 * In all these instances I replaced both image size where it exist, caption and alternative text, except if I forget, since I am Human. And where I forget, the appropriate thing is for you to fix them, not wait for me.
 * Also let me explain one thing to you.Most fixed image sizes, are only seen as such by non-logged users. Logged users see images according to their preferences on any page.
 * Also, I will like you to give me TEN instances where I did'nt remove 'center' or I did't append  so that I can go back and fix them. –Ammarpad (talk) 04:08, 9 October 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm not looking to getting into a counting war. I found some counter examples, and was simply informing you and asking you to consider the change if you were unaware.  Here's one counter example where image_size isn't supported, so you know I'm not simply blowing smoke.  1 Ahwiv (talk) 11:26, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

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New user:Radekeo
Hello Ammarpad, I see you have given a new user a rather stern warning and did not assume good faith. By checking out his first edit, you can see that he did not appear to be a simple numbers vandal, and this is why I only asked him to provide the sources he used (not 'warning him'). With minimal further effort, I have now found an official source and the new population numbers match Radekeo's changes. The original article numbers were in fact the provisional 2006 census results that although accessed in May 2017, date back to a 2007 document. So, Radekeo has provided more accurate and updated info here, although still from 2006. Perhaps you may wish to visit his user talk page and make up the misunderstanding.

Like you, I too have joined the Subtle Vandalism Task Force and actively revert numbers vandals on a regular basis. Together, we shall overcome. 'Cheers Loopy30 (talk) 00:05, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Welcome apology for belated reply.  I know that all these figures and estimates are generally not up to date, but one thing important is that to keep the known though outdated figure with its source is the best thing. Say for instance 2006 population figures, though we know they are all outdated we can't start updating all articles with new unsourced or made up figures of say 2016 or 17. Thank you for finding the source, I may have done that but generally and logically in Wikipedia per WP:UNSOURCED and in the real word, the burden of proof is on the person who introduces claim or adds content to prove it. There is no obligation on me or (any editor) to find source for figures somebody is adding. But I am obliged (and all editors) to removed them since they are sourceless. Thank you -Ammarpad (talk) 14:06, 11 October 2017 (UTC)