User talk:Ammarpad/Archive 9

dcSolutions deletion
Thank you for the response. I have a new draft I'll be submitting soon. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CrimsonGhost88 (talk • contribs) 14:09, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
 * I fixed this for you. And please do read and understand WP:PAID and WP:COI guidelines clearly. Also always keep no promotion principle in mind. –Ammarpad (talk) 15:37, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

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 * There is a new user right for users who can edit CSS and JavaScript for the entire wiki. Before this all admins could edit CSS and JavaScript. This was a security risk. This group is called interface administrators. Administrators can delete user CSS and JavaScript pages.
 * There will be an A/B test on the Wikipedia mobile website. It starts this week. It tests how we show templates that show information about an article. The test will last two weeks.
 * You can now use different CSS rules for different skins when you edit templates. This is because of TemplateStyles.
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 * When you get a new message on your talk page you get a yellow message in the toolbar. The preference to show or not show this has been removed.

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 * You can get a notification when a link is made to a page you created. This has not worked since June. It was fixed last week.

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 * The Wikimedia Foundation Readers department will work on advanced mobile editing. You can read more about this and other things they plan to work on over the next year. You can also see the presentation.
 * The RelatedSites extension will be removed from Wikivoyage.
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Creating a Wikipedia Article for a Client
Hi Ammarpad,

The author of this book A Quarter-Million Steps has asked me to create a Wikipedia Article for his book. He may or may not pay me, and I may or may not do further work for him in the future. Can I create an article for Dr. Paustian's book while remaining objective and not casting aspersions on Wikipedia? Do you have any suggestions to help me navigate this process?

Thanks!--VictoriaConoan (talk) 05:16, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
 * The relevant guidelines/policies for you to start with are: WP:NOTABILITY, WP:COI and WP:PAID. It doesn't matter whether he'll pay you now, later or not at all, because there's no way for me or anyone else to verify that claim. But the very first thing to start with, is to ask yourself: "is this book notable?," that means are there multiple independent and reliable sources that discuss the book in detail? Note: promotional sources like this which you linked cannot count towards that notability. After that, then Conflict of interest. Now that you know the author personally,  and you're even so close to talk that he asked you to create article for his book on Wikipedia, then you've conflict of interest and it's very hard for you to write objectively. Though you may not understand why that, you should read the guideline for more information.. Then finally, he is/was considering paying you, and you're considering to even probably do more paid work for him in the future, then WP:PAID and WP:PAYDISCLOSE are very important for you. Read them. –Ammarpad (talk) 06:52, 9 September 2018 (UTC)

Existence Theatre
Hi Ammarpad, we have been working on a new kind of theatre style during the last few years and created basically the name 'Existence Theatre' for this kind of work. We would like to engrave it somehow into the Internet as the founders of this practice. I understand that you think it is promotional. How could I change the article to become more what I really want it to be, like a patent for its name? Thanks and your reply is very much appreciated! elisabeth — Preceding unsigned comment added by EXISTENCE THEATRE (talk • contribs).

Contested deletion
Hi - how do I know whether I am being promotional or factual with regards to this page?

Also it is meant to be private according to Wiki - how did you find it?

Kind regards, Peter — Preceding unsigned comment added by Diversifyer (talk • contribs)

Please comment on Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (Taiwan stations)
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The Bugle: Issue CXLIX, September 2018
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 * Marking a cross-wiki notification as read didn't work every time. The other wiki was not updated. This has now been fixed.
 * did not work for a few days. This was because of a bug. This has now been fixed.
 * is used by some templates. For a period edits saved with  would save the previous user's name and not your username. This is now fixed. Edits made before the bug was fixed will still be wrong and need to be corrected.
 * When you move a page the title still shows the old page name. The developers are working on fixing this.

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 * Octicons-tools.svg MediaWiki web requests now have a time limit of 60 seconds for GET requests and 200 seconds for POST requests.

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NPR Newsletter No.13 18 September 2018
Hello, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!

The New Page Feed currently has 2700 unreviewed articles, up from just 500 at the start of July. For a while we were falling behind by an average of about 40 articles per day, but we have stabilised more recently. Please review some articles from the back of the queue if you can (Sort by: 'Oldest' at Special:NewPagesFeed), as we are very close to having articles older than one month.


 * Project news
 * The New Page Feed now has a new "Articles for Creation" option which will show drafts instead of articles in the feed, this shouldn't impact NPP activities and is part of the WMF's AfC Improvement Project.
 * As part of this project, the feed will have some larger updates to functionality next month. Specifically, ORES predictions will be built in, which will automatically flag articles for potential issues such as vandalism or spam. Copyright violation detection will also be added to the new page feed. See the projects's talk page for more info.


 * There are a number of coordination tasks for New Page Patrol that could use some help from experienced reviewers. See New pages patrol/Coordination for more info to see if you can help out.


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 * If the user moves the draft back to mainspace, or recreates it in mainspace, please do not re-draftify the article (although swapping it to maintain the page history may be advisable in the case of copy-paste moves). AfC is optional except for editors with a clear conflict of interest.
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A speady deletion contest
Hi Ammarpad,

I have just filled the contest angainst speedy deletion because I do noot see the page created as promotional. Well, maybe a link to a youtube site could be doubtful so I have just deleted it. The rest information are facts. I am new to Wikipedia so please excuse my mistakes if I made any. Kindly please suggest what should I have to correct. Many thanks in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Skidpatch (talk • contribs) 10:24, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
 * You claim "This is newly created page on behalf of the company Muzikinė partija. The information is directly provided by the company Muzikinė partija itself." . Then you should also explain who paid you and also put that on your userpage. You shouldn't declare only the one who provided the text. –Ammarpad (talk) 10:35, 14 September 2018 (UTC)

Dear Ammarpad, thank you for your notice and please accept my apologies for late reply. I still find it very complicated to communicate here. With this answer I am stating that I am NOT directly or indirectly compensated for my edits. I am just a former insider of the field who now has enough time and knowledge where to find the facts that need to be put into encyclopedia. My first article is about the company that I was working for many years. The information and the logo was provided by its director Ms. Daiva Adomaviciene. Kindly please advise what steps to be taken nezt to get it published. Many thanks in advance. (User talk:Skidpatch) 12:29, 18 September 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Skidpatch (talk • contribs)

Your GA nomination of 2018 Kentucky Derby
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article 2018 Kentucky Derby you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Matt294069 -- Matt294069 (talk) 00:41, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

Nigeria, number of ethnic groups
Hello. Your attention is required in this semi-protected article. Thank you. 95.114.61.208 (talk) 10:06, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Responded. –Ammarpad (talk) 10:37, 24 September 2018 (UTC)

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Source at Al-Razi
Hi, i fixed the source you removed at Muhammad ibn Zakariya al-Razi, as you can see here. Since you seem to be an experienced user, i would suggest you to fix sources in articles instead of removing them when they're not well cited. Thanks. ---Wikaviani  (talk) (contribs)  19:53, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
 * I filled Cite book to add it, then I edit-conflicted with you. I am fixing them already. So you needn't request so. –Ammarpad (talk) 20:00, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Yeah, i've seen that, this is why i sent you a thank. Cheers. ---Wikaviani  (talk) (contribs)  20:03, 26 September 2018 (UTC)

The Signpost: 1 October 2018
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Email contact of faz3
Hi I want verify if the email adress attached still few days ago its the true one. And why is removed now. Thanks GBSNetworks (talk) 00:15, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
 * If you open Special:Preferences and scroll down you'll see Email options section. You'll also see further instructions on verifying, removing or adding email address.. –Ammarpad (talk) 07:57, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

Disambiguation link notification for October 1
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Review the Article.
Hello Could you make the independent review for the article. Rakeshroshan1992 (talk) 11:10, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
 * No I can't. Yo were paid to create it and suddenly new account and an IP user are all interested for it to be moved to mainspace hurriedly. Just wait, the independent reviewer will come independently. –Ammarpad (talk) 11:18, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Main issue was pending from past 60 days. That's the reason for hurry. Yes waiting for independent reviewer also, Will hope for the best. Rakeshroshan1992 (talk) 11:23, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
 * That's how all other people are waiting, even though they are not getting paid while you are. So I don't see how this is a problem. –Ammarpad (talk) 11:26, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

Off-course am following community guidelines for authenticity of articles. whether got to be worried for the paid activity. This was my concern Rakeshroshan1992 (talk) 11:30, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

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Results from global Wikimedia survey 2018 are published
Hello! A few months ago the Wikimedia Foundation invited you to take a survey about your experiences on Wikipedia. You signed up to receive the results. The report is now published on Meta-Wiki! We asked contributors 170 questions across many different topics like diversity, harassment, paid editing, Wikimedia events and many others.

Read the report or watch the presentation, which is available only in English. Add your thoughts and comments to the report talk page. Feel free to share the report on Wikipedia/Wikimedia or on your favorite social media. Thanks!

-- EGalvez (WMF) 19:25, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

Thanking and Requesting you
Thanks for your kind response on Talk:Yumna Zaidi, since you are senior user i want to request you one more thing, will you please look at draft:Dil Kiya Karey that if its able to be on wikipidea or not, actually that series will go on air next month and if you publish that draft then will be very nice of you. This draft is the same which i wanted to be linked on the article where you responded earlier. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.8.27.150 (talk) 17:44, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Please no need for rushing, [//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Pending_AfC_submissions there are also many people] who want their drafts be reviewed. Many are reviewed everyday and yours will surely be reviewed too.–Ammarpad (talk) 17:05, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of 2018 Kentucky Derby
The article 2018 Kentucky Derby you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:2018 Kentucky Derby for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Matt294069 -- Matt294069 (talk) 08:42, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Congratulations! Jlvsclrk (talk) 09:58, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you . We did it together. –Ammarpad (talk) 11:36, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CL, October 2018
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Welfare Quality
Hi Ammarpad, thanks for your message. Can you elaborate on how you view the/my Welfare Quality page as promotional? I explicitly tried to avoid this, therefore I am a little disappointed with your uptake of it. This is a multi-institutional, multidisciplinary, multicountry research project, it does not sell anything; not implicitly or explicitly. It only explains the project. I set up the Wikipedia page as an archive of the project and to provide information relevant for farmers, animal welfare groups, and anyone else who wants to know more about research endeavours in animal welfare. This makes it inherently encyclopedic in my view. Please elaborate? Thank you, DNMBeljaars — Preceding unsigned comment added by DNMBeljaars (talk • contribs) 15:08, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Please read promotion and conflict of interest editing guidelines/policies for more detailed information. Promotion doesn't occur only when you're trying to sell something, it's far beyond that. You should understand this first. In addition, please read the answer given to you here already.–Ammarpad (talk) 07:36, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

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Please comment on Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (Canadian roads)
The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (Canadian roads). Legobot (talk) 04:29, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

Nominating Petar Brzica for Deletion
Hi, first of all, sorry if I misunderstood the process on how to nominate an article for deletion. I browsed Wikipedia for that and I'm pretty sure it read somewhere to add Category:Delete to the article and that would open it for deletion discussion. I have now followed the process as described in the deletion policy article. Again, sorry for doing it wrong. Kind regards EviL GaMer (talk) 16:03, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
 * You haven't done it correctly yet. You should read this. –Ammarpad (talk) 08:09, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

ITN
Re your note, yeah, I figured that out after my last post. It happens sometimes. No prob. Sca (talk) 21:22, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
 * OK. Good. –Ammarpad (talk) 06:59, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

Tech News: 2018-42
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Problems
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 * Wikis are updated with new and updated translations from translatewiki.net again. This will happen once a week. The developers are working on fixing the problem so we can have translation updates more often again.

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Talkback
 D Big X ray ᗙ  07:43, 20 October 2018 (UTC)

Discretionary sanctions alert
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NPR Newsletter No.14 21 October 2018
Hello, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!

, there are 3650 unreviewed articles and the backlog now stretches back 51 days.
 * Backlog


 * Community Wishlist Proposal
 * There is currently an ongoing discussion regarding the drafting of a Community Wishlist Proposal for the purpose of requesting bug fixes and missing/useful features to be added to the New Page Feed and Curation Toolbar.
 * Please join the conversation as we only have until 29 October to draft this proposal!


 * Project updates
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Meetings
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Future changes
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A bowl of strawberries for you!

 * Thank you. –Ammarpad (talk) 13:07, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

Your deletion of part of Killing of Jamal Khashoggi from Erdogan`s speech
Hi, on the 23rd of October you deleted some things that Turkish President Erdogan said in a speech he made on same day which had been added to the wikipedia article "Killing of Jamal Khashoggi", decribing your deletion by suggesting it was lacking in source, and somehow contentious, neither of which are true. Would you mind undoing your error?126.3.20.194 (talk) 20:56, 23 October 2018 (UTC)
 * No, it wasn't an error. And I was not merely suggesting, it indeed didn't have any reference and is politically charged in the current circumstances. If you have the source that can back the statement, then you can just add it yourself. But re-adding the content without reliable sources will not do, as it will be removed again. –Ammarpad (talk) 21:32, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

AfC
Greetings! Thanks for the help with AfC, any help with that massive backlog is appreciated. I just wanted to ask if when you tag a AfC for speedy delete if you could review it as well. If you just tag it for speedy delete and not review the AfC at the same time the AfC still shows on the backlog. Thanks!  Whispe ring  18:15, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi, thank you for your suggestion. But actually I do that intentionally and with reason. I am extremely careful about what I tag for speedy deletion and only do so when I have high assurance that it will be deleted. So it doesn't make sense to tag for speedy deletion and also send a verbose boilerplate to the author asking them to "Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved". As you can see, it's not only misleading but also confusing when they attempt to follow the instructions and find the article no where in existence. I also believe CSDs are taken care of regularly, so few hours backlog is not really an issue. –Ammarpad (talk) 16:56, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
 * , I do the same as you. If the viewing admin agrees with the deletion, the article will be gone soon enough.    , there's no need to add process which is likely to be at best confusing.   DGG ( talk ) 18:00, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
 * , well that makes sense nevermind then.  Whispe ring  18:15, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

Regarding Draft:Kanishk Sajnani
Please refer to this discussion at the deletion review? It seems you did something wrong while declining the above submission. 2405:205:C84B:66:2CE6:6E14:8018:80A3 (talk) 11:16, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Then you should tell what I did wrong. Declining your draft or what? The draft was submitted to AFC and found non viable for standalone article apart from being deleted multiple times earlier I declined it, you should read the message left for way forward. The discussion you linked is something different and you can continue your argument there. –Ammarpad (talk) 12:32, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

Draft submissions should only be declined according to WP:AFCSTANDARDS. The message that you left on the draft doesn't stand right according to WP:POLICY. You should also mention the specific guidelines which possibly fail for any submission. Regarding this particular Draft:Kanishk Sajnani, it had already been established in my above cited discussion that the artilce meets WP:PG. I am more than happy to explain it to you (again) in-detail over here. 1) Let me ask you if there is an offical policy that denies notablity just because the listed sources had taken any kind of inputs(as an interview or otherwise) by the subject of the article himself? Jimbo Wales believes there isn't. Please refer to his comment on this Afd. The draft listed above has references [3 ] & [2 ] that involve no direct inputs from the subject himself. Therefore, it should seem safe to state them as Independent Sources. "The core policy WP:NOT requires that it be possible to verify a subject with at least one independent source, or else the subject may not have a separate article in Wikipedia." Reference- Relationship to Notability at WP:IS Also, look closely & you would notice that 5/6 references(stated in the article) are based on the subject's work ONLY(Not passing mentions). Furthermore, WP:BLP1E is only applicable when the subject is notable for a single event, Am I correct? The article states 4 different events(at different times) for which the sources are available. I am not sure if BLP2E could have been applied, even if it was a real thing. Aren't the above facts enough to tell us that the article complies with the WP:BASIC & WP:GNG (official Wikipedia policies) & hence, it is all the evidence that we need? 2405:205:C84B:F990:2068:B4AF:6B32:497A (talk) 13:31, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
 * AFCSTANDARD is a loose guideline not hard-and-fast rule and opinion of Jimmy Wales holds no special authority in accepting drafts at AFC as you're wrongly assuming. This semi-promotional article has been deleted four times including three AfDs and once salted but you're fighting for it in multiple fronts, AfD, DRV and talkpages not sure why. You can go and resubmit it for another reviewer to review, this is not the first draft to be declined. –Ammarpad (talk) 14:03, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

So your excuse is that "Since it has already been deleted 3 times, I am free to do it again without citing any appropriate reasons?" An AFC reviewer should only be concerned about the recent draft that has been put up for submission. The Draft for a matter-of-fact is non-promotional at this moment. "You can go and resubmit it for another reviewer to review, this is not the first draft to be declined." is not exactly the correct way to respond to this. Also, I know Jimmy wales holds no special authority in accepting drafts at AFC. But, he's surely a lot more experienced than you are here, right? I just gave you every possible explanation as to why declining this particular draft was not right on your part. Stop fighting & please get used to accepting your mistakes. 2405:205:C84B:F990:3D03:6BE7:C269:236C (talk) 14:37, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
 * I did no mistake and I stand with my rejection: get this right and stop grandstanding. The fact that you don't see the problem with article deleted 4 times, three times after full discussions and salted as well as your caviling about it across several forums simultaneously speaks volume. "Jimmy Wales is more experienced than me" (What ever the heck that mean) doesn't give his opinion a sort of heavenly powers as you're wrongly assuming and I said this before and I am repeating for the last time.–Ammarpad (talk) 14:59, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

Maybe you didn't notice that the SALTing was 5 1/2 months ago. That's enough time for new references to appear. Any experienced editor here knows that. The title is currently UnSALTED F.Y.I. An Admin would have done it obviously after re-reviewing the article. What you term as "caviling" is me merely standing FOR Wikipedia's official rules & guidelines. You still didn't clarify for you actions & did nothing but beat around the bush. I'm out of here. Peace. 2405:205:C84B:F990:3D03:6BE7:C269:236C (talk) 15:18, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

1. The standard for accepting an AfC is "likely to survive an AfD nomination ". As the closing admin, said at the deletion review " There is a draft, it can be moved into mainspace, if that is done it can be submitted to AfD, and will likely be deleted there based on this discussion" So they too thinks it is unlikely to survive if moved. II interpret the "can be moved" as saying "there is a possible route to an article, so nothing need be done at Deletion Review", not that it should be moved. At AfC there is 6 months to improve it. Perhaps it can be improved if better sources become available, and  then it might have  a reasonable chance of passing Afd ; there is no reason to keep resubmitting it otherwise. 2. Whether to accept interviews as RSs for notability depends on the nature of the interview and of the article. For organizations, we usually do not under the current interpretation at NCORP. For people, it would go case by case and the decision would be by consensus at the afd. Jimmy's opinion has exactly the same weight in an afd as any other editor here. He had great input into our original guidelines, of course, but they have been changing for the subsequent 15 years, and he usually has chosen not to involve himself in the various notability policy discussions.. In any event, I think the key reason the Jain article was kept was the New Yorker article, which appeared after the afd nomination but in time to be mentioned in the discussion. Had it appeared afterwards, the AFD would probably have been closed as delete, but a Deletion Review would surely have reversed the deletion. If such sources appear for Sajnani, the article on him will be kept also.  DGG ( talk ) 18:43, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

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Tech News: 2018-44
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Editing News #2—2018
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Tahera Rahman
Hi,

Please clarify why you believe that the exact date of the subject's birthday must be given, in accordance with Wikipedia's policies. The existence of templates like implies that this is not the case. The current information is accurate, because the sources from early 2018 state that she was 27. 2018 - 27 = 1990. Thus, her birth year is either 1990 (Jan/Feb) or 1989. This does not violate any policies. As well, you state that external images aren't added to infoboxes, but I am unaware of such a prohibition. I cannot upload the image to Commons as it is non-free. – Batreeq ( Talk ) (Contribs) 23:42, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Read BLP. This is someone so young as born in the 1990s, it's just easier to find a source that mentions her full date of birth otherwise it can be left out, it's not necessary and better than saying "she is 27 or 28 or 29 or whatnot," which in all no definitive source on which is correct. Second, external image is not way of circumventing image policy. Also since you said you're not aware, now you should be; you cannot use non-free image of a person who is alive. Either get freely-licensed one, or leave it out too. –Ammarpad (talk) 04:34, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi. Can you quote the part that prohibits the inclusion of the possible birth years based on reliable sources? As well, the image is not hosted on Wikimedia’s servers, so it is legal to use. Template:External media states that this template can be used when media: “cannot be uploaded to Wikipedia, even under fair-use rules”. – Batreeq ( Talk ) (Contribs) 21:05, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Please read policy not template. You cannot use non-free image of a living person. Also date of birth should be widely published by reliable sources, you've only one source which didn't even know the correct date, only guessing. Please find two or more sources that agree on that, then you can use it. You can also discuss further issue about the article on its talkpage Talk:Tahera Rahman, so that other people can join. –Ammarpad (talk) 06:59, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
 * The policy only applies to content hosted on Wikimedia servers. The purpose of the template is to link to external content that cannot be uploaded to Wikipedia. As well, WP:DOB states that the DOB can only be published when publicly available from reliable sources. Several secondary sources (news articles) refer to her as a 27-year-old.   – Batreeq ( Talk ) (Contribs) 23:04, 1 November 2018 (UTC)


 * If you want argue the policy, you should do it at Wikipedia talk:Non-free content not on my talkpage. Since you don't agree with the policy part I quote --and prefer what template says-- there's nothing I can do. You should ask for clarification on the policy's talkpage, so other people can join the discussion.–Ammarpad (talk) 05:56, 2 November 2018 (UTC)

Decision to Flag George P. Smith II page for copyright issues
Hi,

I'm a librarian who monitors George's Wikipedia page. It was set up by my predecessors, but I've done updates for George a couple of times. It was brought to my attention that it had been flagged for copyright violations today, but I cannot tell why. I tried to read the copyright report, but I couldn't decipher what parts of the article the system thought violated copyright and what secondary document it used as a reference, to show the violation. I'd like to rectify this as soon as possible, but don't know how to proceed. Could you please let me know what brought you to this decision as soon as possible?

Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AshleyAAhlbrand (talk • contribs)
 * Hi, You can take a look at the investigation subpage here and read what I explained, specifically with regard to 1, 2 and 3. And also because the page has been sitting for long undetected, so both legitimate edits and copyright violations got intertwined and complicated the issue. There's no volunteer yet to investigate the issue further as there are many articles in the backlog, but it will be resolved. –Ammarpad (talk) 09:45, 2 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Thanks, . I'll take a look. Am I able to work on correcting the issues you've flagged (like the puffery) while we wait on a volunteer to look it over? AshleyAAhlbrand (talk) 13:47, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes, but in the meantime it is better to rewrite it at this temporary subpage provided for that. From there it can be reviewed and moved to the mainpage later if appropriate. By rewrite, that means in whole so as to not include any further copyright infringement, close paraphrasing or other unwanted flattery. But since you're staff of the George's institution, you should read Wikipedia's Conflict of interest editing guideline and be familiar with its salient point regarding contributing to articles where editors have personal/work relationship with the subject and also disclosure of such. –Ammarpad (talk) 14:14, 2 November 2018 (UTC)

Review for English/French speaker / Urgently need your help!
Hello Ammarpad. I am contacting you because you are a speaker of both English and French. I have created the page Draft:Pierre_Jovanovic nearly 2 months ago, and I am waiting for a review. Could you please consider having a look at it ? Please excuse me if my request is improper. I am learning the ropes. Best regards. Micha Jo (talk) 08:11, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi, I will take a look, possibly tonight, UTC+1. –Ammarpad (talk) 10:01, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Please, I need your help. My first article, which was approved after a 2 month review process was submitted for deletion by user Bradv. See here Articles for deletion/Pierre Jovanovic. I presented strong arguments in the talk page Talk:Pierre_Jovanovic, but they were not considered. Could you please have a look, and support my page if you like it ? Also note that Bradv is the infamous user which deleted the page of Mrs Strickland who later won the Nobel prize in physics: [] and []. Thank you and kind regards. Micha Jo (talk) 03:01, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Please, I am afraid I cannot do that. The arguments you presented is the right thing to do and you already did, so no need of any help. –Ammarpad (talk) 09:33, 5 November 2018 (UTC)

Tech News: 2018-45
<section begin="technews-2018-W45"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * You can now use TemplateWizard to edit templates. This works only with the 2010 wikitext editor and not in the visual editor or the 2017 wikitext editor. If you click on OOjs UI icon puzzle-ltr.svg you can enter the information in a pop-up. You can turn on TemplateWizard in your beta feature preferences.

Changes later this week
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 * When you edit with the visual editor you can use the "Automatic" citation tab. This helps you generate citations. You will now be able to write plain text citations or the title of a journal article or a book in this tab. This will search the Crossref and WorldCat databases and add the top result.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 6 November. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 7 November. It will be on all wikis from 8 November (calendar).

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Rant?
That was not a rant. You got unnecessarily offended. For someone who believes in civility and good faith, you took it as anything but. You took offense to someone leaving a friendly bit of advice. That's all I did. Mr. C.C. Hey yo!I didn't do it! 15:06, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
 * That was not advice. If you believe the page should be deleted, take it to AfD. Period.–Ammarpad (talk) 16:23, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
 * It was advice. You're failing to realize that nobody is bothering to expand the article.   Mr. C.C. Hey yo!I didn't do it! 15:13, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
 * No. You were instructing me in officious tone to move article to draft "because it's a stub," an article that I did not create. That shows your poor understanding of policy. And when I declined --instead for you to check relevant policy pages-- you went further in fury to nominate the article for deletion with another flimsy, non-policy based reason that "there has been no attempt to expand the article...." Now the AfD haas been closed as clear keep, I hope you will now refresh your policy understanding on small pages and also learn a thing or two in general.–Ammarpad (talk) 17:32, 8 November 2018 (UTC)

Talk:List of Presidents of Angola
Hello. When you closed a move request at Talk:List of Presidents of Angola and moved List of heads of state of Angola to List of Presidents of Angola, you forgot to move List of heads of state of Mozambique to List of Presidents of Mozambique and List of heads of government of Mozambique to List of Prime Ministers of Mozambique. It was a part of the request in the same way as the part which you completed by moving the Angolan article. --Sundostund (talk) 06:23, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Fixed. I thought Anthony Appleyard was only suggesting them. –Ammarpad (talk) 07:00, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

AfroCine: The Months of African Cinema Continues….
Greetings!

Thank you very much for signing up to participate in the Months of African Cinema global contest/edit-a-thon, and thank you for your contributions so far.

It is already the middle of the contest and a lot have been achieved already! We have been able to get over 200 articles created in over seven (7) languages! The figures soars to up to a thousand, if Wikidata entries are included. Furthermore, there have been about 5 in-person gatherings of Wikipedians in different countries across the world to create articles about African(a) cinema!

We are very excited about what has been achieved so far, but your contributions are still needed to further exceed all expectations! Let’s create more articles before the end of this contest, which is this November!!!


 * Article suggestions can be found here. You can also add to this list.
 * Some notable reliable sources for African cinema can be found here. Again, this list needs expansion.
 * Interested in Wikidata translation? check out the Occupation Drive, which is being led by Wiki Loves Women, in support of the contest and the project!
 * Please remember to list articles you have created or improved in the Article Achievements section of the contest page, so that they can be easily tracked.

Thank you once again for being part of this global event!

Kind regards.--Jamie Tubers (talk) 22:50, 10 November 2018 (UTC)

Tech News: 2018-46
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Recent changes
 * Some old mobile browsers can use the watchlist again. This has not worked for a while. These browsers are called grade C browsers. This helps for example Windows Phone 8.1 with Internet Explorer and Lumia 535 with Windows 10.

Problems
 * You can choose to see edit conflicts in a two-column view. This is a beta feature. You can find it in your preferences. Users who use this view saw the edit conflict resolution page when they wanted to see a preview. This has been fixed.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 13 November. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 14 November. It will be on all wikis from 15 November (calendar).

Meetings
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Future changes
 * You can use the content translation tool to translate articles. The developers are working on a new version. One of the changes will be a maintenance category. Articles where users add a lot of text from machine translation without changing it will be in that category. This is so the community can review it. The users will also have been warned before they publish the article that it has a lot of unchanged text from machine translations.

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The Bugle: Issue CLI, November 2018
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NPR Newsletter No.15 16 November 2018
Hello ,
 * Community Wishlist Survey – NPP needs you – Vote NOW
 * Community Wishlist Voting takes place 16 to 30 November for the Page Curation and New Pages Feed improvements, and other software requests. The NPP community is hoping for a good turnout in support of the requests to Santa for the tools we need. This is very important as we have been asking the Foundation for these upgrades for 4 years.


 * If this proposal does not make it into the top ten, it is likely that the tools will be given no support at all for the foreseeable future. So please put in a vote today.


 * We are counting on significant support not only from our own ranks, but from everyone who is concerned with maintaining a Wikipedia that is free of vandalism, promotion, flagrant financial exploitation and other pollution.


 * With all 650 reviewers voting for these urgently needed improvements, our requests would be unlikely to fail. See also The Signpost Special report: 'NPP: This could be heaven or this could be hell for new users – and for the reviewers', and if you are not sure what the wish list is all about, take a sneak peek at an article in this month's upcoming issue of The Signpost which unfortunately due to staff holidays and an impending US holiday will probably not be published until after voting has closed.

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RMs and redirects
Hi, I mentioned you here, but now I realise that you've only been involved in fulfiling a request at RMT, which was placed there by the editor who closed the RM. So probably fixing the redirects wasn't probably what you were expected to do. Is there a typical division of labour in such cases? Though I guess ideally, people shouldn't be closing RMs they don't have the technical means to carry out. – Uanfala (talk) 15:32, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Usually I don't close RMs I cannot implement, maybe because of Blacklist or Move protection, but we well know there's no policy that prohibits doing so, it's left to common sense. Then in that case, I am the one who should've actually fix the redirect but somehow I forgot. Fixing redirect is responsibility of the editor who actually moved a page. There are also several bots that fix fixable cases like that after sometime. –Ammarpad (talk) 16:04, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

Passport move
Hi Ammarpad, User:Dreamy Jazz had already relisted this move discussion. And within a few hours you have reverted his relist and closed it. I feel your closure is unjustified as the discussion still deserves more comments from the community to reach a conclusion. Consensus is not counting of heads. Can you self revert and allow the discussion more time so that a clear consensus is reached. -- D Big X ray ᗙ  04:03, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
 * It was listed as due for closure because the relist was incorrect and not recognised by the bot. It must be placed immediately following the first dated signature, but they placed it after another. I did not revert a relist, can you show where I did?. If you look again, preceding the relist tag is a signature dated 12th, I thought it was for the relist time. I now reopened it and fixed the error of the relist. –Ammarpad (talk) 04:22, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks, i think the font is small, it might need more tweaking regards -- D Big X ray ᗙ  04:32, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
 * OK. I did it myself, by reverting to the version by Dreamy Jazz. I can see the discussion is listed at Requested_moves by Jazz and also on Dashboard/Requested moves. So I believe it's all good now. I am still not sure why it did not show up at the Dashboard you listed above. -- D Big X ray ᗙ  04:47, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
 * It seems you're yet to understand. I fixed it here by moving his "relist signature" to be immediately following the first dated signature which is your own and has timestamp of (12:21, 11 November 2018). But you now moved it again to be after the second dated signature which is your own too but with timestamp (14:59, 12 November 2018). You actually broke it again, and the bot reacted by moving it back as due for closure. When you saw it working normally it was because of my fix which you now overriden, but now before you do anything check the page Requested_moves to see what I am telling you. The reason why it did not show in my Dashboard link above was because it's in a permalink form.
 * OK, I see you now understand and even fixed it. That's great. –Ammarpad (talk)
 * Please see the state of the font after your last edit . I did achieve this feat by using the relist template, but now there is an unnecessary relist signature with my name. Can I go ahead and remove my signature now ? -- D Big X ray ᗙ  05:16, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
 * OK. I don't bother checking the rest of the text, I stopped just by the relist date. So pardon me that's why I don't get your "font" issue above. Yes this second signature is unnecessary. The Dreamy Jazz's sign is enough, you can remove the second one and see. –Ammarpad (talk) 05:30, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
 * I took the liberty of removing the second sig. You can now check if everything is OK. –Ammarpad (talk) 05:34, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you, lets hope the bot doesn't break it now. Requested_moves -- D Big X ray ᗙ  05:44, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

Tech News: 2018-47
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 * Octicons-tools.svg There is an A/B test for  data. This is to make it easier to find the right information with a search engine. This changes the metadata for a wiki page. It doesn't change how the page looks.

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 * The Education Program extension was removed from all Wikimedia projects. The database tables used by the extension will be archived. This will happen in a month. If you want the information on your wiki you should move it to a normal wiki page.

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Should have left a redirect here

 * 09:37, 17 November 2018 Ammarpad (talk | contribs | block) moved page Talk:Language Movement/Archive 1 to Talk:Bengali language movement/Archive 1 without leaving a redirect (Requested by JC7V7DC5768 at WP:RM/TR: result of consensus at Talk:Language Movement)
 * You broke a link to Talk:Language Movement/Archive 1. – wbm1058 (talk) 23:21, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
 * It wasn't possible to leave a redirect at the time. Otherwise I couldn't have been able to restore Draft:Move/Bengali language movement back to the base title Language Movement which is needed for attribution. In a round-robin page move all redirects must be suppressed. What I should have done was to recreate the redirect manually, but somehow I forgot, and now it has been done. –Ammarpad (talk) 05:02, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Only round-robin a page when you absolutely have to (from my perspective, R-R is usually a less-than-ideal solution). If you use the "Swap" script (listed on the "More" dropdown) it asks you "Move subpages? (OK for yes, Cancel for no)" Say NO to that and just MOVE the subpages separately (which was easy in this case since there was only one). As a general rule of thumb I'd try moving everything conventionally, and only resort to R-R when you're blocked from doing that. Sorry, I realize this is a relatively minor knit, but I see an increasing number of round-robins with various issues left behind that I find myself cleaning up... I wish there were more admins doing this work. wbm1058 (talk) 12:45, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
 * No problem. I will take more care next time. –Ammarpad (talk) 13:57, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

single use template
Hi, you say this should be allowed to bend the rule. BTo which rule do you refere? All of the discussions end the same and nobody quotes the rule that is violated. It is mostly the hear say rule of dsingle use templates but where is it written? --Stone (talk) 07:04, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
 * I assume you're referring to this TfD about Infobox_actinium. My comment used what is called hypothetical example. I hope you should reread it to understand better. Thanks. –Ammarpad (talk) 07:33, 20 November 2018 (UTC)


 * A hypothetical example is of no use in this discussion. There is no written guideline or rule to bend, so we do not bend anything. We stick to the rule. --Stone (talk) 08:14, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
 * This shows you don't understand what's hypothetical example in the first place. You should know it first, then reread my comment. I believe other people in the discussion understand what I mean which is even quite clear.  –Ammarpad (talk) 10:02, 21 November 2018 (UTC)

Tech News: 2018-48
<section begin="technews-2018-W48"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * On wikis with translatable pages you could create a mess when you moved a page that had translatable subpages. A subpage is when you use  to create a new page:  . The subpages would be moved but not the translations. The subpages are no longer automatically be moved. This is to make it safer to move pages.

Changes later this week
 * The advanced search interface will be available by default on all Wikimedia wikis. It makes it easier to use some of the special search functions that most editors don't know exist. It's already active on German, Farsi, Arabic and Hungarian Wikipedia.
 * Special:UnusedCategories show empty categories with no files or other categories. You can soon choose to not show soft redirect categories or some maintenance categories there. You can do this with the magic word.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 27 November. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 28 November. It will be on all wikis from 29 November (calendar).

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg Octicons-tools.svg You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 28 November at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes
 * Octicons-tools.svg The  function was deprecated in 2012. It will be removed next week. Look for the warning   in the JavaScript console to know if you use an affected script or gadget. If you are a gadget maintainer you should check if your JavaScript code contains  . There is a migration guide. It explains how to use   instead.

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The Signpost: 1 December 2018
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Sathya (upcoming film) listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Sathya (upcoming film). Since you had some involvement with the Sathya (upcoming film) redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. Steel1943 (talk) 16:49, 1 December 2018 (UTC)

Tech News: 2018-49
<section begin="technews-2018-W49"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * Admins will not be able to unblock themselves if they are blocked by someone other than themselves. This is because it can cause damage if someone else takes over an admin account and other admins can't block them. If this is a problem for your community you can report it on Phabricator. You can also ask questions on Meta. There is a discussion on Phabricator about how to solve this if two admins fight with each other on a small wiki.
 * Small SVG images are now bigger when you see them in MediaViewer.
 * You can go to a section from the edit summary by clicking on the section name. Before this you had to click on the arrow.
 * When you jumped to a footnote that was referenced several times in an article it could be difficult to see where you were in the text. Now there are jump marks and highlights to help you find your way back.

Changes later this week Meetings
 * There is no new MediaWiki version this week.
 * Octicons-sync.svg Octicons-tools.svg You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 5 December at 16:00 (UTC) and at 23:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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December 2018 GOCE newsletter
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Automated archival (Teahouse)
Hello Ammarpad,

We discussed automated archival in the teahouse. The thread has been archived now ;Teahouse/Questions/Archive_869 Do you still have the time to help me with the automated archival on my own talk page as discussed? Thanks in advance and best regards --Hundsrose (talk) 10:36, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi, I have added it for you now. Once there are more than 3 posts, that are older than 3 days, a bot will automatically archive the rest leaving only two. You can read how to change the behavior here to further tweak it or you can ask me if you need further clarification. –Ammarpad (talk) 15:49, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Hello Ammarpad, thanks a lot for your help. I increased the algo parameter to 30 now. I'm still unsure how to implement the minimum of signed edits for a section and the "done" template. I can't find those in the link above. Maybe you can assist me there once again? Much appreciated. Best regards --Hundsrose (talk) 16:24, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
 * To make sure we're together, the algo parameter you changed to 30 means a post will not be archived until after 30 days elapsed according to its timestamp. If that's what you want it's OK. Then the bot archives according to number of sections (threads) not timestamps. So it cannot recognize number of signed edits within a section. A section with two signed edits and a section with 10 signed edits are all treated as equal; only the age (which you specified) matters. I don't know of any template that may trigger the bot to immediately arhive, you may consider asking the bot's operator for that. –Ammarpad (talk) 16:56, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
 * I thought archival is always done by section and not single posts and wanted to archive every section which oldest post is older than 30 days and which has at least 2 posts. In addition, if a section has only one post, I'd like to mark this one with the template so I can decide if it gets archived or not. How should I proceed now, should I write on the bot's talk page? Thanks for the help. Best regards --Hundsrose (talk) 17:05, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
 * OK, I thought you want ask it to archive a particular post within a section and not the other. Now what you want can be done by DNAU. –Ammarpad (talk) 17:19, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

Thanks a lot, Ammarpad! --Hundsrose (talk) 12:56, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

Growth team updates #4
Welcome to the fourth newsletter for the new Growth team!

The Growth team's objective is to work on software changes that help retain new contributors in mid-size Wikimedia projects.

We need your feedback!

We have two requests for community members:


 * 1) Now that data is coming in for the welcome survey, we are planning how to use that data to personalize the newcomer's first day.  See our current thoughts here, and join the conversation here.
 * 2) Try out the help panel's interactive prototype, and read about how we're planning to roll it out, and post any thoughts or reactions here.

Two Growth team projects have been deployed (detailed updates here)


 * Personalized first day (welcome survey) was deployed on November 20 on both Czech and Korean Wikipedias.
 * The survey is now being shown to half of new users (A/B test). Responses are being recorded in the database. We'll report on initial results during December.
 * We are planning to test a second version of the survey, called "Variation C", which we think will maximize the number of users who complete the survey and stay on the wiki.
 * The original objective of this project was to give newcomers the materials they need to achieve their goals, and so now we are currently planning how we will use the information collected in the welcome survey to personalize the newcomer's experience. We hope community members will read our current thinking and join the conversation here.  Some of the plans we are considering include:
 * Making it easy for newcomers to see editing activity around the topic areas in which they indicated that they're interested.
 * Connecting interested newcomers to experienced editors.
 * Surfacing the help content most relevant to the reason for which the newcomers created their accounts.


 * Understanding first day (EditorJourney) was deployed on November 15 on both Czech and Korean Wikipedias. It has been done after a longer security review and final testing than expected. Data is now being recorded for all new users on those wikis, and we've been auditing the data and preparing to make initial reports during December. Stay tuned for the next newsletter!

Help panel is under construction


 * Focus on help desk (help panel) is planned to be deployed during the week of January 7 on both Czech and Korean Wikipedias.
 * This interactive prototype is the best way to see the design and wording in the feature.
 * We ran live user tests on the prototype, with results posted here.
 * In addition to giving the ability to ask a question, the help panel will also contain a set of links to existing help content. Our ambassadors on Czech and Korean Wikipedias are determining the right initial set of most helpful links in this task.
 * We encourage community members to try out the prototype and read about the rules for who will get the feature, and add any thoughts to this discussion.

We are still looking for volunteers

Do you want to participate to our experiments? We are looking for new communities to work with us (especially a new mid-size wiki), and people to become ambassadors to help us to communicate with the different communities. Discover how you can involve yourself or your community.

Also, please share this update with your community and interested people!

Learn more about us

You can visit our team page to find out why our team was formed and how we are thinking about new editors, and our project updates page for detailed updates on the projects we work on.

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