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Base Flipping Discussions
HI Ana! So I'm a little overwhelmed by all the information on base flipping!! Which is a good thing I think! So in looking for articles, it helps me to organize them into the major topic where they will be mostly used: background, biological processes (which we'll have to sub-divide), mechanism, mutations, and so forth. So I added the major topics to your reference list on your sandbox page. I hope this helps and doesn't confuse you! Do you want to organize the article differently? I think this will also help us define our outline.

Also, I have another question about images. Are we allowed to use images from our text? Do the copyright laws allow that? And how do we find out if, for example, the original article from 1994 is open access or if we aren't allowed to use those images?

I'll keep doing some research for more articles. Plus I'll add some bullets to the references I added to help identify what info is in the articles.

Magladem96 (talk) 03:54, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi Jen! I loved how you organized the page - Great idea!!! In regards to the images, I will ask the OA to make sure! Great start!!! Amontei2 (talk) 16:54, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi Jen! I have been looking for references for the mutations section and I did not come across anything. Did you find something? I think we should be good in regards to the biological processes and should look for more info on the other areas. What do you think? Amontei2 (talk) 23:22, 5 March 2014 (UTC)


 * HI Ana! I also organized all the biological processes articles by type also.  Are we missing any bio processes?  That helped me find a few more for those processes we didn't have much on.  I can't find anything for "base flipping mutations" either.  Maybe we should get rid of it?  I also looked under the terms "nucleotide flipping", which also seems to be a common term and we should include in our article, and "base opening", which isn't as common.  Are there any other aka terms we can look up? BTW, I'm still planning on adding bullets for the refs I added.  I just need 6 more hours in each day to get everything done!  LOL!  Magladem96 (talk) 03:32, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi Jen, this is what Klortho said "If you mean your textbook, then the answer is probably "no". In general, you have to look to see if there is a license that allows re-use, and that is pretty rare on textbooks.  As far as a journal article goes, sometimes those are open access, and sometimes not" so I guess we have to check the license agreement on the images. Amontei2 (talk) 14:17, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh! BTW I agree with you, if I could only have enough time!lol Yes, I think mutations should go then, I will look a little more tonight. I think those AKA terms are good, I will look for into it tonight as well. Thank you for organizing the page so well. It looks really good:)Now, we need to find good images so we can look up the licenses, if we have problems, I told Klortho I would send him the links to check.Also, I removed the numbered listings since some of them were 1,1,1 and replaced them with bullet points. It was just bugging me that I could not make it consistent! So I guess keeping the bullet points we dont have to worry about the numbers not increasing within a subsection. I hope that's okay :)Amontei2 (talk) 18:36, 6 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks, Ana, for changing the numbers to bullets! It was bugging me also!  :)  I like the picture you found - thanks for finding it!  I also think the one from http://www.atdbio.com/content/54/Base-flipping#Base-flipping would be ok if we can't use the other one.  I've started coming up with an outline of our article.  Would you like me to add it as a new section? (This will be part of our unit 7 assignment.)  I agree I think we have enough references to start.  As we're writing, though, we may need to find some more.  There are lots about the biological processes!  I also found one on V(D)J recombination that I'll include.   Magladem96 (talk) 02:57, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
 * So I went ahead and added a draft outline. Definitely feel free to edit it, change stuff around, etc.  Is this kinda what you were thinking also?  Magladem96 (talk) 03:17, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Great! Thanks Jen... The outline looks good! Thank you!! I will take a better look tomorrow night as well. This week we are only being graded on the outline and references, but I was thinking in starting to put some things together. What do you think? It is just that I will be starting a new job on the 17th, and I want to work a little ahead since I am not sure how my schedule will be then. I will just start to write some things down and we go from there. Maybe we can use the talk page first then transferring to the main page. Anyways, good work! I am glad we are working together, since we are both on it ahead of time, it would kill me to work with someone that does things last minute!LOLAmontei2 (talk) 03:47, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi Jen... I will be reading some of the papers we have selected a little further tomorrow, and I will be posting some of my thoughts on Sunday! Talk to you soonAmontei2 (talk) 00:26, 8 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi Ana! I started the DNA Base Flipping Talk page.  For unit 7, we need to start a dialog on the article talk page with anyone else who may also be interested in this article.  Let me know if you don't see it or anything.  I'm also reviewing the articles today.  Looks like we get started writing next week.  :)  Magladem96 (talk) 18:54, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi Jen! I couldn't find the talk page for base flipping, can you send me the link? For some reason when I open the page, I dont see anything :( maybe I am looking at the wrong place? Let me know... I started reading the history and discovery of Base flipping and I will write something on the next couple days (I got this nasty cold that I ended up not doing as much as I wanted, but I will get there) Amontei2 (talk) 22:26, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi Jen! Thank you for sending me the info. I have accessed the page and I added some references, everything else looks really good. Thank you for starting that. 15:47, 10 March 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amontei2 (talk • contribs)

Getting Started on article
HI Ana! How should we do the writing for the article? Do you want to each take a section? Or work together on each section? What are your thoughts? Hope you're feeling better! Magladem96 (talk) 00:34, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi Jen! Thank you, I was in bed most of the day today and on and off getting work done. How about we each pick a section then load it on my sandbox and edit as we go? This way it won't be too much for neither one of us, and then we can work together to get it to the same format/language. Let me know what would you prefer. Amontei2 (talk) 01:38, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Sure, that sounds good to me. Although I read over unit 8 stuff and she suggests just writing and formatting it on the article page.  Let's go ahead and start that at least for the lead so that we have info there and it doesn't get deleted again.  :)  After that, we can start in the sandbox and then move it over to the article page to do final edits, if you want.  Magladem96 (talk) 01:19, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

Talk Deleted
HI Ana, Our DNA base flipping talk page was deleted. I emailed Dr. Ogg and the James086 (who deleted it) to see if it can be undeleted, or what we can do. I'll keep you posted. Magladem96 (talk) 20:34, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
 * HI Ana! The restored our page, but put it on the article side.  Dr. Ogg knows; the person who fixed it emailed her to let her know.  So I think we're ok now.  :)  Magladem96 (talk) 01:15, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi Jen sorry I was out of reach today... So should we just load stuff on the page now? Why was it deleted? Do you have a number I can reach you? Amontei2 (talk) 23:26, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

Image
HI Ana! I uploaded the base flipping picture I created to wiki commons and posted a link to it on the sandbox under images. Will you look at the image in wiki commons and make sure I noted everything correctly? I want to make sure that the original creator gets credit and people know that I modified his work. Thanks! Magladem96 (talk) 13:15, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
 * HI jen! Sure, I will take a look at it...Thank you and great idea!Amontei2 (talk) 21:30, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi Jen, I just checked the image and it looks great! It is clear on the page that the image was modified and where it came from. Amontei2 (talk) 14:15, 14 March 2014 (UTC)