User talk:Amorymeltzer/Archive 22

Portal:Australia subpages
Hey, some of the Portal:Australia subpages are still being used by WP:AWNB – could you undelete Portal:Australia/WikiProjects, Portal:Australia/Categories, and Portal:Australia/Anniversaries/Today? Thanks, - Evad37 &#91;talk] 01:17, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Done! Don't know how I missed those. ~  Amory  (u • t • c) 01:28, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Looks like there's a whole lot of /Anniversaries subpages to restore, one for each day of the year. E.g. Portal:Australia/Anniversaries/Today is currently trying to transclude Portal:Australia/Anniversaries/February/February 3 - Evad37 &#91;talk] 01:52, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅ ~ Amory  (u • t • c) 11:04, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Ahead of the curve... ~ Amory  (u • t • c) 15:31, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

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IP User:216.186.252.38
This user keeps vandalizing these pages by removing things for no reason:
 * Universal Television history
 * Sony Pictures Television history
 * Columbia Pictures history
 * 20th Century Fox Television history
 * Warner Bros. Television history

The user has been warned three times and the user has been ignoring the warnings. Can you or any other admin do something about that IP user and perhaps semi-protect the page for a while?108.213.134.66 (talk) 05:47, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

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Your draft article, Draft:Michael Reeves (theologian)


Hello, Amorymeltzer. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Michael Reeves".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply and remove the, , or  code.

If your submission has already been deleted by the time you get there, and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion by following the instructions at this link. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. DannyS712 (talk) 08:48, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Special:Diff/854009116 & logid 92341817 ~ Amory  (u • t • c) 10:28, 9 February 2019 (UTC)

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Mail
I sent you some mail about ... stuff, would be interested in your views. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  12:26, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Got it — I'll get back to you in a few. ~ Amory  (u • t • c) 12:32, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Boom, roasted replied. ~ Amory  (u • t • c) 21:10, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

Rollback
Hi, on Feb 2, 2019, I requested Rollback rights and was refused. I have since found that Twinkle works for the types of vandalism and unconstructive edits I revert. I was under the misapprehension that Rollback was required before Twinkle could be used, that's why I requested Rollback. Just a suggestion, but for editors such as myself who do not qualify for rollback, you might suggest in the refusal to try Twinkle and become familiar with it before requesting Rollback again. I hope you find this a helpful suggestion. Now that I am learning Twinkle, I don't think I need Rollback - thanks - Epinoia (talk) 20:15, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi Epinoia, I did mention that Twinkle would be helpful for you, or did you mean the request you referenced from a while ago? Twinkle is also described at Rollback, which is recommended reading for anyone applying in the Rollback right.  You were probably thinking of WP:Huggle, which does require rollback in order to use. ~  Amory  (u • t • c) 20:21, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 * -thanks, Amory - what confused me was that when I saw edits made with Tinkle it would say Tag: Rollback and I thought that Rollback was required for Twinkle - even after reading the article on Twinkle! - I was mistaken - thanks for your help and your patience - cheers - Epinoia (talk) 21:01, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 * No worries, that confuses me sometimes too! Tags are a way to filter edits, and Twinkle rollbacks can get tagged as rollback and undo, which is doubly confusing!  I'm actually hoping to improve that in the near future, but we'll see... Happy editing! ~  Amory  (u • t • c) 21:12, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

Sloppy Work
In response to your comment here. Thank you! I have updated the script accordingly. On an unrelated note: Are you familiar with JS? If so, and if you feel so inclined, I could use a second pair of eyes on this, specifically the function modifySignatures where I try (and fail) to bypass the fact that modifying HTML removes the associated elements' event handlers. If you are the wrong person to ask, then perhaps you could redirect me to an area where these things are asked? Thanks again. -- Guywan (talk)  20:31, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

Talk:Trump (president) deletion
Hi, why did you delete the Talk:Trump (president)? I want to add for Trump (president). —Wei4Green &#124; 唯绿远大 (talk) 01:49, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
 * If you look at the deletion log, you'll see that my rationale was the WP:CSD criterion, that is vandalism. Someone had created a page it in order to vandalize.  You don't need my permission to do anything! ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 11:40, 17 February 2019 (UTC)

Template:Tooltip
Hey, since you were pinged in the bot task, I thought I'd follow up with you on this. Looking at the table at User talk:DatGuy/sandbox and sorting based on number of uses - we could potentially have an easier task in front of us. The following have very large number of uses:
 * "W" - 18418
 * "L" - 18276
 * "Pld" - 13226
 * "D" - 13008
 * "GA" - 12895
 * "GF" - 12087
 * "Pts" - 10705
 * "GD" - 8737
 * "Pos." - 7806

The problem is, that the current table does not count unique pairings (both 1 and 2 the same, and only checks if 1 is the same), so I can't be sure these are the same values. However, looking at these as a group, and based on some of the 2 values from User:DatGuy/sandbox, it seems like these are used in sport tables and might be the same value (or at least, meant to be the same). What do you think?

An example of a table found at Zinedine Zidane. Uses tooltip and is not a template (might be used on a lot of football player pages):

Sean Dyche has a similar table, but uses for "W" - "Matches won" instead of "Games won" which the above table uses. So basically these are the exact thing (note: I'm not even sure if according to the MoS, "Games won" or "Matches won" is a valid abbreviation for "W") and can be treated the same. --Gonnym (talk) 12:23, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
 * I've replied there, but yes, basically. The issue is that many uses might be the same sequence of G/W/D/l/Pts, but many are slightly different, and finding those is tricky.  Ending up with 100,000 direct uses of Abbr rather than using templates is certainly far from ideal. ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 11:37, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
 * From looking into this a bit more, I have a feeling that if we replace this and a similar table like that in Jürgen_Klopp with a module that creates these tables, we can solve a huge chunk of this. Luckly, the relevant project has made it a standard to use "#Managerial statistics" as that title, so a search found a lot of those. The question is, a) if a module will be created, how can we "force" the conversion to it? and b) is it possible for a bot to convert this data into the created module/template? --Gonnym (talk) 12:16, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
 * I mentioned it at Bot_requests, but I think the various wrapper templates for Module:Sports table should be able to cover most of the uses? ~ Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 12:19, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
 * A modified version of those can certainly work as it seems there is none for a player/manager's career (also at least two different styles needed here). --Gonnym (talk) 12:36, 17 February 2019 (UTC)

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Rollback request
Amorymeltzer: I will follow your advice ¿When can i re-request? Seby1541  (talk)  04:09, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
 * There's no time limit, but you need to prove you have the judgment. As I suggested to you, I think the best thing for you to do is to slow down and carefully take your time to only revert clear-cut cases of blatant vandalism.  Do that without error for a month and then we can talk. ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 11:43, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

Ok, thanks Have a good day
 * ) Seby1541 (talk) 18:35, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

Deletion review for Heart pain
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Heart pain. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Hildeoc (talk) 20:08, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
 * I'll reply there if you like, but I would urge you to reconsider this nomination and read WP:DRVPURPOSE. DRV is not meant to be a continuation of the discussion, it is a place to review whether closes were made appropriately.  You may not like how the RfD closed, but you've offered only the same argument you made in your nomination at RfD so it looks like the DRV discussion runs afoul of WP:DRVPURPOSE.  If you think you can point to one or more of the five reasons to use DRV listed at WP:DRVPURPOSE then please continue, but otherwise I think this won't be productive. ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 20:14, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi and thanks for commenting. In fact, I do see your point. What else can I do in order to bring this issue up to further discussion?--Hildeoc (talk) 20:18, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I think that was a good idea, as noted by the other user's comment. The short answer is not much: the discussion was had and closed, so the status quo stands, and it's usually not a good idea to renominate something soon after.  The longer answer is that, well, no consensus means there was no decision made.  As I alluded to in my closing statement, yours was the only !vote for deletion, so that certainly won't be happening, but you could consider drafting a disambiguation page such as  suggested, or look to find another target that might be better.  It's probably best to just let it be for a bit, and maybe revisit it in the future.  Just my $0.02. ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 20:32, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/List of Greek versions of names
For what it's worth, I looked at closing it, didn't think there was enough consensus either way, and decided to stick my opinion into the debate instead. I'm pretty sure did the same. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  12:09, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes. -Ad Orientem (talk) 14:21, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the note, both of you. Am I right in reading this as in response to my "Editor's note" and not as disagreeing with my close?  I thought it'd be too self-serving to go into detail on my timeline there, but to clarify a bit, upon review this morning (before your comment, Ritchie) I was pretty sure I saw a consensus, but sat on it a bit before doing a full close (also having tea and reading through my watchlist).  I saw your comment when I returned, and continued forward with my close.  Right before closing, I refreshed and saw the two additional comments, which did not change my read of the consensus but prompted the note about potentially cutting off ongoing participation. ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 14:25, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
 * I do agree with your close, but of course I voted to Delete. That said, I think the keep arguments were pretty anemic. -Ad Orientem (talk) 15:24, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
 * And I'm the same as AO. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  16:05, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

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RFA
Hi Amory, can you please nominate for adminship as he is a very experienced editor and will be one of our best admins ever. 2402:3A80:A7C:1BD7:0:5E:A6B:FF01 (talk) 03:19, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
 * User:Amorymeltzer - I don't know who this editor is or why they think that I will unblock them.  Robert McClenon (talk) 03:47, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
 * If an editor with a known record wants to explain that the times or the sentiments of the community have changed, I will consider that. Robert McClenon (talk) 03:47, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
 * I am not blocked and I haven't told you to unblock me.2402:3A80:A7C:1BD7:0:5E:A6B:FF01 (talk) 07:34, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Wat ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 20:12, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

I don't understand what you are talking about. Will you nominate Robert for adminship.2402:3A80:A7C:1BD7:0:5E:A6B:FF01 (talk) 03:23, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Aaaaaand blocked. ~ Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 12:18, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Well, well. When an IP acts like an experienced editor, some of us assume that they are an experienced disruptive editor.  It also appears that you don't know who they are, but that they were being a disruptive IP editor.  Robert McClenon (talk) 16:18, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't be likely to pay attention to knowledgeable unregistered editors if I were an admin anyway, because I assume that they are experienced disruptive editors who are blocked. I wouldn't be the sort to unblock them.  Robert McClenon (talk) 16:18, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

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Dahir Insaat
Greetings, could you please move this deleted.article to my draft space? I am finding additional coverage since the close. Thank you. FloridaArmy (talk) 11:14, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Done ~ Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 11:29, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Gracias! And thanks for bringing me on board, it's been fun, albeit a bit distracting. 😀 I dunno about "awesome admin" (although Amory appreciates alliteration) but I can at least say that I showed excellent judgment lo those many years ago.  You've done Herculean work yourself! ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 12:41, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

You've got mail!
DannyS712 (talk) 08:07, 1 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Read, reacted, and responded. ~ Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 12:42, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

RB Issues
Hi,

Check this: - this is not a vandalism. He just ignore my massage. X ain36 { talk } 20:07, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

Related to User Rights
Hi, about a month ago, you provided me temporary permission as a Rollbacker here. I acted according to the policies of Wikipedia and used Rollback only in clear-cut vandalism cases, and I assure you that I will do the same in future. I expect that you have now enough trust on me to grant me the Rollback permission. <b style="font-family:Lucida;color:red">SouravDas1998</b>t@lk to me? 12:16, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
 * I granted February 2nd and you used it a bit then and the 3rd, but you've basically not edited for the entire month, as far as I can see. I'll grant you another one-month period, but you've got to use it for me to see evidence. ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 15:46, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks, for giving me another chance. It is true that from the last few days I have been very much busy (due to my extra physics practical classes). Now, I will try my best to squeeze out some time for contributing to Wikipedia. I hope that I will meet your expectations. <b style="font-family:Lucida;color:red">SouravDas1998</b>t@lk to me?  16:14, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

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0.99 = 1 et al
Thank you for the good closing summary you've left with these RfDs. Although I disagree there was no consensus on all of them, they're still around to provide utility for those that use them and your closing summaries should hopefully discourage anyone from a quick renomination, which would almost certainly be a waste of time. Thryduulf (talk) 19:59, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks! May I ask which you might take issue with?  As noted, I considered closing one of them as keep, but I think taking the whole series of discussions into consideration, no consensus seemed the better reflection of the participants' arguments.  Somewhat relatedly, I've lately found myself considering the law of diminishing returns a lot.  Not applying it, per se, but it's something that has been coming to mind when I evaluate some discussions or when weighing arguments and their implications toward policy.  No consensus closes always make me think too much about my thought process! ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 20:35, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 21:12, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

WP:REFUND request
Hello AM: please restore all the Portal subpages you deleted via WP:CSD G6. Since there are now assessments in process as to whether the single-page or multi-page versions are better for the encyclopedia, the only way these assessments can proceed is if the subpages are restored. Thanks in advance, UnitedStatesian (talk) 18:27, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

Userinfo Script
Hi. Is User:Amorymeltzer/userinfo.js supposed to show if a user is a bureaucrat? I was just looking at User:X!, and it only showed edit filter manager and administrator. Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 06:22, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Weird! I'm not sure why, but now that I look, it says I'm not a bureaucrat either.  Not sure how to fix that...
 * Humor aside, the script is working fine as User:X! isn't a 'crat. That was removed for inactivity in 2016.  Maybe you were looking at the former bureaucrat list?  Try User:Xaosflux, you'll see it works fine.  Might I also recommend User:Amorymeltzer/crathighlighter.js?  It colors bureaucrats as well as CU, OS, IA, stewards, and ArbCom members. ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 10:49, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Lol, I forgot that bureaucrat removal is done from meta; I was looking through the logs and didn't see any hint it was removed. It works for Xaosflux, so nevermind. As for the first point, this should help. Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 15:05, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

Request for imformation about deleted templates
Hello! I’m Pythoncoder, the maintainer of the vote symbols script you use. I was just wondering if you could link me the images used in the following templates, as I believe they may have images that I have not added to my script yet: Template:Vote remove Template:Strongly support Template:Strongly oppose Template:Vote info Template:Vote wait Template:Vote rename Template:Vote love Thanks! Please ping when replying —  python coder    (talk &#124; contribs) 22:46, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Sure thing :
 * Vote remove: File:Symbol delete vote.svg
 * Strongly support: File:Gtk-ok.svg
 * Strongly oppose: File:Nuvola apps error.png
 * Vote info: File:Exquisite-khelpcenter.png and File:Pictogram voting info.svg
 * Vote wait: File:Symbol wait.svg and File:Pictogram voting wait.svg
 * Vote rename: File:Symbol move vote.svg
 * Vote love: File:Symbol support vote.svg and File:Nuvola emblem-favorite.svg
 * ~ Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 23:16, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I guess I do have all of them after all. —  python coder    (talk &#124; contribs) 23:22, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

NPP
So up until now I've had technical problems with getting onto Wikipedia, but I finally got a new computer, so that should solve the problem. That said, I've been doing more on Wikipedia lately, and considering the backlog of the New Pages feed, and the fact that I've been working at AfC, I'd like to request back New Page Reviewer rights. Thanks, PrussianOwl (talk) 01:01, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅. Make sure to read over all the material again, and happy editing! ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 10:56, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks, much appreciated! PrussianOwl (talk) 00:56, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

Deletion review for itel Mobile
Hi Amory, please help to review proposed new content for the page itel Mobile (now in my sandbox: here) which you have protected. And I also invite you to participant in the deletion review of this article. I think it could be published, thank you so much. Pumkin Ding (talk) 13:29, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
 * I believe the DRV is indeed the place to discuss this, thank you for the note. ~ Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 15:47, 3 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Greeting！ Have you reviewed the proposed new content for this page? Waiting for your comments and hope this draft could be removed from protection, thanks a lot. Pumkin Ding (talk) 03:48, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
 * I have no thoughts to add, but the DRV isn't really about the draft page at the moment; I'll see what happens there first. ~ Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 11:23, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
 * "I have no thoughts to add" do you mean you think the proposed new content is enough to be drafted? But you still need to waiting for more comments given from other admins on DRV, and then you can make the decision? Thank you for your reply. Pumkin Ding (talk) 09:30, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Sorry for being unclear, I meant I don't really have any particular thoughts or involvement with the subject. Once a discussion on something, like an XfD or DRV, is open, I think it's generally best to wait until the discussion has completed before acting unilaterally; it's not particularly up to me to decide whether the userspace draft should be in mainspace or not, that's for the community of editors to think about.  Nothing is urgent, and it's usually disruptive to change things while a broader conversation is ongoing; I know I usually find it confusing when something is deleted/undeleted/moved! ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 11:01, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your clarify. I keep waiting for admins to participant in my deletion review, but I am sad nobody giving any comments and opinions on my draft. What can I do about that situation? Pumkin Ding (talk) 02:30, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

KFC
Good evening Amorymeltzer ~ I noticed that my edit adding a new executive position with KFC was removed. I don't know if it was you because all I have to go on is the red box when you want to edit ~ but anyways don't you think that such a large company as KFC and as long as they have been in business that it is pertinent information when KFC adds a new executive position and the person that holds that position is good information? Thanks Mitchellhobbs (talk) 13:27, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
 * What do you mean by "removed?" Your edit to Template:Infobox KFC remains, and you haven't edited KFC as far as I can tell. ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 15:14, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

I had written a whole paragraph with about a new CCO even with a ref and I published checked twice to see that my ref followed thru and came back about 3 minutes later and the whole thing was removed and not a hint of my edit in the history ~ I thought that maybe an administrator did it and you were the only one a had to contact I mean I know i'm learning but sometimes if my edits are not correct then I can still see it on the history. I don't mind writing it again I just thought I did something wrong and just wanted to find out what I did wrong so I won't make the same mistake again Thanks Mitchellhobbs (talk) 20:49, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

It's in there now thanks Mitchellhobbs (talk) 21:02, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

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 * Pages can use geocoordinates from Wikidata with the  Lua function or the   parser function. If they do, they will now be shown using  mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Extension:Kartographer if the wiki can use Kartographer. You can report bugs or ask questions on Phabricator.
 * There is now an EventStream to see when links are added or removed on Wikimedia wikis. You can read the discussions and plans.

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 * Some wikis will not be able to edit for a short period of time on 19 March (UTC). This will start at 15:00 UTC. It will last up to 15 minutes but probably shorter. You can see the list of affected wikis. This is because of network maintenance. You can still read the wikis.
 * Editors who use Firefox to edit with the visual editor had a problem with copying text. When they tried to select text that included footnotes, templates or block images in the middle they would often only get part of the text. This has now been fixed.
 * Some maps didn't work for a while on 8 March. This has been fixed.

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Concord Police Department
I noticed that you deleted this page because of a PROD tag. I am NOT challenging that, but would you mind sending me a copy of the text? It may be salvageable as an article or draft, but I'd like to take a look at what's in there before doing anything. --Calton &#124; Talk 02:37, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
 * , no problem! Here you go, in its entirety:
 * The Concord Police Department is the police department for Concord, California the largest city in Contra Costa County in the San Francisco Bay Area.
 * I'm kidding of course, there was more! I mean, well, there was a link to http://www.ci.concord.ca.us/police/ and, uh, some categories?  Oh, and a stub tag... Joking aside, that's truthfully all there was after all those years.  Sorry I can't be of more help! ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 02:43, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
 * That was pretty helpful, actually. In other words, no more info than I already knew -- much less, actually -- and no point in undeleting even if I went ahead. Thank you. --Calton &#124; Talk 07:12, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

sysop vs admin
I like it! Admin seems to connote some sort of authority where sysop simply connotes "has permission to fiddle with certain things". :D --valereee (talk) 10:00, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Truth be told, I prefer janitor, and I think we'd be better off now had we called it that from the beginning.  Still, cats out of the bag on that one! ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 10:33, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Even better. "Has the ability to clean up certain messes, and can generally be expected not to create bigger messes while doing so." -valereee (talk) 12:28, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
 * I like it! And even "Has a keyring with access to special places, but really only to tidy up the place" ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 13:27, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

Macon, Georgia
Good afternoon Amory,

Since 2014 Macon Georgia is now Macon-Bibb Georgia (Redirected from Macon-Bibb) even going to the city's website, they call it Macon-Bibb (http://www.maconbibb.us/mayor/). Should I clean up the Macon, Georgia to refer to Macon-Bibb, Georgia (since there is no longer a Macon, Georgia). Thanks again in advance for your expertise on Wiki Mitchellhobbs (talk) 22:09, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm not quite sure what you're asking, but I think you're wondering if the page should be moved? That sort of discussion, which is covered at WP:Requested moves, generally takes place on the talkpage of the article in question.  Is that what you were looking for? ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 02:02, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

Yes it is Thanks for the page I will read up and let you know when I do it :)~ thanks again Mitchellhobbs (talk) 16:08, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

You've got mail

 * Read and replied ~ Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 00:04, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

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 * When you use rollback you will be able to get a confirmation prompt on most wikis. It asks you if you wanted to do the rollback. This is to avoid misclicks. You will have to opt in to get it. On German Wikipedia it will be an opt-out feature from 28 March.
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 * Admins will be able to block someone from editing a page or a namespace. This already works on a few Wikimedia wikis. You can read more. If your wiki wants to be an early tester of this, you can tell the developers.
 * Octicons-tools.svg Toolforge will shut down the Ubuntu Trusty job grid. This will happen the week of 25 March. Tools that use this grid needs to be moved to the new Debian Stretch job grid. If they haven't, they will be taken offline. Maintainers can restart the tools later. Users may not be able to use them in the meanwhile. You can see a list of affected tools.

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March GOCE newsletter
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Pending changes
Hello, Amory, re our discussion at the rollback page. Yes, this would interest me as it's essentially reviewing content, albeit with the focus on latest edit(s). I have seen mentions of pending edits on a few page histories but didn't know till now what they are. If you're happy for me to get involved, then I'm willing to do it. Thanks very much. No Great Shaker (talk) 11:57, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅ Make sure to read through the note I just left, and feel free to ask any questions you may have! ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 13:40, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Amory. Much appreciated. I'll make sure I fully understand everything before I use it. All the best. No Great Shaker (talk) 14:17, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

Re: permission for rollback rights
There's a particular reason I haven't been warning vandals when I revert vandalism: this account, which I made almost thirteen years ago, renders me pretty susceptible to doxing and harassment. I feel as though doing sustained counter-vandalism work would greatly increase my chances of drawing enough ire to warrant such behavior, and I've been reticent to warn (as opposed to simple reversion) for that reason. I've thought about requesting a global name change and revdel on stuff that might identify me, but I don't think that would solve the problem in a comprehensive enough way to make me feel comfortable. I've therefore elected to make an alt to do counter-vandalism stuff, and I think it would be a legitimate use of an alt account and therefore not suspicious as sock-puppetry, but I don't want to link the alt with this account, either here or elsewhere---only a CheckUser would uncover it. Do you have any suggestions about what I should do beyond this (stuff to announce on the alt's userpage, etc.)? I've noticed that (ostensibly) new users who seem to know what they're doing receive a high level of scrutiny, and I wouldn't want someone to think I'm socking this account and ban them both. Thanks for your time. mpawluk t 21:42, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
 * It sounds like you are describing a Clean start. Read through that page carefully, is that what you're saying?  If so, the whole point is that the new account is not an alt and not to publicly announce any connections. ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 00:00, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes, that's correct, but I was hoping I'd be able to continue using this account as well for other types of editing; it's in good standing, and I've had it for so long. I'm seeing that this is discouraged, however. You'd suggest, then, that I retire this account permanently? mpawluk  t 00:36, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
 * It's really up to you. If you're going to WP:CLEANSTART, then yes you should retire this account; otherwise it's not a clean start.  There are legitimate cases where you can use two accounts; you can see them at Sock puppetry, but it does not seem to me that your situation fits the bill.  I'd take some time and think about what you'd like to do.  While it does happen, it's rare that typical vandals go after users.  There's also no requirement that you do antivandalism work: there is a lot of work to be done around here, and reverting vandals is one small part of the background.  If you're worried about the exposure there, why not try avoiding it and focusing your efforts elsewhere? ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 01:26, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Nurul Haq Nur
Thanks for closing the Nurul Haq Nur AfD! I did notice while looking at the logs, it was not properly relisted (the relist tag is for March 20th but was not moved in a proper log). Just as I did it, it was closed, so I guess it didn't matter! Jovanmilic97 (talk) 11:16, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Indeed, good catch! I've left a note at the AfD, appreciate the dilligence. ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 11:38, 22 March 2019 (UTC)

Varma (given name)
Could you let me have the content of the above page that you have just deleted, as IMO it needs to be added, if only as a footnote, to Varma (surname), in order to make clear that Varma the Indian surname is not the same as Varma the Finnish forename (which I think was the point behind creating a separate page for it)? Ingratis (talk) 19:08, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
 * No problem, but it turns out to still be there in the surname page history. The main content was identical to that present in an old revision of the surname page.  The other differences were:
 * Use of ISBN instead of the raw ISBN in a reference
 * The following external link: Verkkopalvelu.vrk.fi: varma


 * Category:Finnish given names
 * The following lines: Notable people with the name include: Varma K. Turunen, a former member of the Parliament of Finland
 * Hope that helps. ~ Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 20:05, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes, it does indeed - thanks very much! Ingratis (talk) 22:53, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
 * I've replaced the Finnish name in the article - which needs (re-)renaming to Varma (name) - but looking at the page history it's unlikely to be left there for long.Ingratis (talk) 11:29, 23 March 2019 (UTC)

Hello! I was here to ask a similar question. If we do put the Finnish name into Varma (surname) as you have discussed, can we make Varma (given name) into a redirect?

However, it would be trivially easy for me to translate a few of the Finnish entries for other people called Varma listed at https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varma_(nimi). That would obviate the main criticism of the deleted entry, that it did not include a list of wikilinks to people with this name. If I do that, could we reinstate Varma (given name)? Alarichall (talk) 00:12, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Nothing wrong a redirect whatsoever. And, if you can those half-dozen pages here and passing notability, I'll open the DRV myself! ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 00:19, 23 March 2019 (UTC)

Concern for granting permission
Hello sir, I'm a active user of Wikipedia. And I have requested for permission for helping Wikipedia for a safer place and help fellow Wikipedian's. If you feel I need more practice though, I'll be happy to gain more experience. So, I would like to grab your attention. Im extremely sorry if I words are rude towards you sir. Thank you for taking the time to review my case, and have a nice day! AR.Dmg (talk) 12:13, 23 March 2019 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:List of 2017 albums
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Tech News: 2019-13
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 * The new version of the content translation tool will be used for all new translations. The older version will still be used for translations that were started with it. Most users won’t see any change. More than 80% of the published translations are already using the new version.

Problems
 * There was a problem with editing with Safari on iOS. When you wrote an edit summary you couldn't save the edit. This has now been fixed.
 * The editing toolbar sometimes disappears when you scroll on iOS devices. This will be fixed soon.
 * Wikis can over-ride interface messages on-wiki. A problem meant that sometimes an old versions of any changed messages were shown instead. This included the sitenotice and other important parts of the interface. This was fixed at around 2019-03-22 16:00 (UTC). Logged-out users may still get the wrong message. Purging the page should fix it for them.

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Email from User:Renamed user 897657791
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Renamed user 897657791 (talk • contribs) 12:02, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

Copyright infringement ~ El_Pollo_Loco_(United_States)
Good afternoon Amory, can you tell me if this user 'Ndgilbert6' using this photo File:Elpolloloco-logo.png ~ can say this is his own work? ~Thank you Mitchellhobbs (talk) 17:19, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
 * "Own work" seems incorrect, for sure — good catch! As for the copyright itself, logos that are simple geometric shapes or just text are frequently not copyrightable (see Commons:Commons:Copyright rules by subject matter), but this definitely goes beyond that.  I've tagged it with commons:Template:Logo. ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 18:31, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
 * It's been deleted. ~ Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 19:36, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you Amory :) Mitchellhobbs (talk) 13:56, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

rollback request
on your user page it says you are willing to grant rollback request what does this mean?? JJBullet  11:41, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Just that — that I am willing to review and grant rollback to editors who will use it. ~ Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 11:59, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Am I able to be granted the rollback role, I know I have been a bit annoying that's just because I am still getting used to it all, if granted I will use it appropriately  JJBullet   12:01, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
 * sorry for being a pain  JJBullet   12:14, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
 * I actually answered your rollback request at WP:PERM/R, see here. Basically, rollback is only useful if you're consistently fighting vandalism.  With only a dozen or two mainspace edits, you just don't have enough experience yet, sorry.  That's no problem though: Twinkle makes it easy to revert and warn, and there's plenty more to do here. ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 13:43, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

Tri-Cities High School
Thanks for the revdel there. But there's more. The beginning end of this diff would be a better starting point IMO. Not directly BLP, but definitely hate speech. While you're there, please indef the named editor. Thanks. John from Idegon (talk) 19:29, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks — I missed that the account had done the same thing, so I snagged that one too. Appreciate the follow-up! ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 19:38, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

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2018 Pulwama encounter
Thanks for closing Articles for deletion/2018 Pulwama encounter, I was browsing the AfD lists when I saw this was closed. Although I have no opinion keep/delete on it right now since the article is not visible to me. Can you at lease share a ref or two from the deleted version of the article here. I would like to review if there is a redirect target for this link. regards. -- D Big X ray ᗙ  05:46, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Sure, here are all seven:
 * ~ Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 08:46, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
 * ~ Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 08:46, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
 * ~ Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 08:46, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
 * ~ Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 08:46, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
 * ~ Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 08:46, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
 * ~ Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 08:46, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
 * ~ Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 08:46, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
 * ~ Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 08:46, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Companion (Doctor Who)
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Whoops!
Re – I forgot that I had already voted. Thanks for catching it! –FlyingAce✈hello 20:12, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

Curiosity about change to Zak Smith page
Hi, I'm sorry if this isn't the right place to contact you about your recent decisions. I just saw your change to the Zak Smith page. Did you check out the talk page first? A group of four people had proposed the update and there was just one dissenting opinion (who appears to be the subject of the article trying to protect his image). Zak Smith is famous for never giving up the last word in an argument, so if you have to get every single person to agree to the change, then there will never be a change and he will continue to be promoted based on his relationship to the woman who recently came out and told about how he abused her. I understand protecting the page because the subject of the article will keep making his changes as long as he can, but why freeze it in the state that benefits him? What are the next steps for people that want the article to accurately reflect the subject's relationship? Acidbleu (talk) 21:07, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
 * I protected the page to enforce the previous sysop's action, which was to stop the edit war. I don't disagree there was a good discussion on the talkpage about that paragraph, but the protection was about stopping disruption, not about enforcing "right" version.  The proper course now is to make a protected edit request and a passing sysop can act on it.  See also WP:WRONGVERSION. ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 00:41, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Which I now see has been done, great! I'll leave it for someone else to take care of, but that seems fine to me. ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 00:43, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi Amory, I posted the request on my phone so I didn't feel up to the task of investigating further. I'm unable to do anything about the full protection of the article, but as you've noticed the edit request and believe it seems fine, would you please respond to it? Thanks. PeterTheFourth (talk) 07:18, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
 * I'd rather not mix editorial actions with sysop actions and get involved; I think it'd look like I was protecting to enforce a particular version, rather than the previous admonition to stop edit warring. It's only been up for a little bit, I'm sure a passing sysop will swing by and take care of it. ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 10:16, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

A kitten for you!
for your indepth close explanation at Articles for deletion/Jean Mill, some admins just put "Keep", "Delete" or whatever than their signature (allbeit, usually for straightforward closes:)), thanks.

Coolabahapple (talk) 03:58, 5 April 2019 (UTC) <br style="clear: both;"/>


 * Well said. And well kittened. I said delete and redirect, and I'm not sure that I agree with you (Amorymeltzer). However, that was an intelligent, thoughtful and admirable close. -- Hoary (talk) 09:34, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you both! I spent quite some time on it so I appreciate the words. ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 10:22, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

Octothorpe?
So I see this edit summary and I'm like "What the...? What's an 'octothorpe'?" I'd like to think I have a decent vocabulary in the English language, but I'd NEVER heard this term before. Kudos to you for using such a word! My vocabulary is expanded :) --Hammersoft (talk) 13:15, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
 * It's a fun one! I knew of someone who (in the context of social media, but still) called it a "hashie."  I nearly died. ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 13:37, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

Rollback rights soon?
Hi, I'm Gooner2004, and for the past several months I have been editing as an IP; I'm quickly learning about Wikipedia from one of my friends who frequently edits. I'm even attempting to become an administrator sometime in the future. I want to use rollback rights as I am against vandalism and feel like I'm familiar on WP:Vandalism. Also, Twinkle is a little slow; having rollback rights makes it a bit faster. Any comments? Gooner2004 (talk) 01:09, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Wow,, you've certainly been active! Nice work, I like the enthusiasm!  Your reverts look pretty good, so I'd definitely say you're on the right track.  Sysops generally like to see some consistency, so not just edit count but also some length of time being active (i.e. more than two weeks) but keep up the good work and it should be no problem.  In the mean time, though, a few suggestions:
 * Make sure to appropriately use the user warning templates. Sysops like to see consistent and appropriate use of scaling templates.
 * I reverted two edits you made to IP user talk pages, namely User talk:2600:1008:B15B:8D2C:B5FD:AED7:E5D:78C2 and User talk:2604:2D80:803D:8D8F:38E9:24E8:4AD6:2202, to which you had placed a blocking template. Only sysops can block users from editing, please read Blocking policy.
 * Relatedly, it's best not to get down in the mud and fight with vandals. Revert them, and revert them if they call you names, but don't insult them back or anything like that — see WP:DENY.
 * I think you did all that in good faith but it shows some unfamiliarity with policy. That's okay!  You've only been editing for two weeks, so as I said, just keep it up and keep at it.  Let me know if you have any more questions! ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 01:35, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Marketing resource management
On AfD Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Marketing resource management your closing remarks were Concerns over sourcing are particularly well-taken here. There were no discussions on sourcing since I improved the article. I therefore believe you should review your close. Thankyou.Djm-leighpark (talk) 21:17, 23 March 2019 (UTC)


 * I added that note for two purposes:
 * To bring attention to the fact that after you added links, nearly two weeks passes and not a single editor, new or returning, commented to agree
 * To highlight an argument from the other participants, who were greater in number yet far less verbose, that may have been less apparent to passing readers beyond the more obvious calls to WP:NEOLOGISM
 * That is, my delete close was not solely or even mostly based on the sourcing issues by participants favoring delete. This wasn't, in my opinion, the simplest of calls, and the strength of your argument was in large part due to the points you raised in your March 10 and 11 comments; it was not, however, how I read the consensus. ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 01:10, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
 * If WP:NEOLOGISM is the call for the closure, and per WP:NEO this does not mean an article should be deleted does not carry sufficient weight, then this set a precedent which should immediately be followed on other articles. There has been incredibly little discussion on this point since March 10. The one person commenting made the comment within two minutes of a previous edit with minimal explanation of his reasoning and the unsubstantiated advocacy currently was taken as personal against a good faith improvement. While that person claimed WP:NEOLOGISM they avoided WP:NEO with an advocacy argument.  With it being not the simplest of calls with minimal recent comments a relist might have been the alternative choice.  A second relist is generally to be avoided but is often given for less.Djm-leighpark (talk) 07:15, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
 * You will appreciate I am further considering the weighting of your argument. I am minded I have a couple of in good faith reasonable but weak reasons to take to DRV to confirm absolute clarity on the NEOLOGISM ... Another approach is to onboard the consensus in which case Marketing operations management and Enterprise marketing management seem reasonably to be tested at AfD for the same reason.  I have come to realise some might suggest Marketing operations management is merged to Marketing operations that is a redirect to Marketing performance measurement (MPM) ... the talk page of reveals a minefield ranging from good article to suggested testing at AfD!  Djm-leighpark (talk) 11:11, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
 * I think you're saying that you're weighing asking for a reconsideration of the close at WP:DRV; that is certainly your prerogative! As for the rest of your post, I'm still having a little trouble following what you're saying, so please correct me if I've interpreted it wrong, so let me just say that AfD shouldn't be used to "test" something or to try and make a point with other nominations.  If you have a good-faith belief that other pages don't meat the criteria for inclusion, by all means nominate them. ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 13:24, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
 * The first part is certainly true and I am weighing that. Your point at testing at AfD is true (and I had experience of such a test within the last week and the result was a move that possibly went wrong way).  However I have to take my endeavour to understand the consensus reached and am entitled to submit to AfD articles reasonably falling within the scope of that consensus for deletion, and I can see little reason MOM and EMM should not be so subnmitted.  In some respects, perhaps in every respect, (and perhaps not), MPM lies within the same category.  But the MPM talk page reveals a *lot* of not so simple history and an article that possibly remains a mess ... and I might well seek asking on the talk page about giving that article some improvement/warning tags.  It's also an issue as MPM has been used by the education foundation.  Another way of reading the delete under WP:NEO (I think (WP:NEOGOLISM actually points the same) is I've been seeking to promoting the use of the term Marketing Resource Management (or perhaps Aprimo).  But fully understanding the reason for delete may stop me bringing the wrong articles to AfD or raising an DRV in a non-optimal way.  It still beggars my belief that by adding one reference to an unreferenced article with a source that if not WP:RS was at a minimum close to it and WP:RSN's response is to send the whole article to WP:RSN.  If one says I'm promoting Aprimo am I not the one who help pulled back some bias from a paid editor that slipped right past a technically bungled AfC? (Rewrite old draft and submit and though AfC in 3 hours by paid editor ... others wait 3 months).Djm-leighpark (talk) 14:35, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Update: I have chosen to make a suggestion of a Cleanup Tag on the MPM talk page. I will review responses before taking any further actions.  Thankyou.  Djm-leighpark (talk)
 * Update: I have applied the cleanup tag raised above. I have raised the AfD discussion Articles for deletion/Marketing operations management and expect delete result on my understanding of community consensus on Marketing articles.  I have chosen not to mention MRM but others or even yourself has the option of raising that, otherwise my plan A is to sit and observe the discussion (That does not mean that is what i will do).  Thankyou.Djm-leighpark (talk) 09:44, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Update: Nothing is simples per User talk:Spinningspark. In gathering some idea of the messy state of many articles in Marketing I may at some point go to DRV however I am seeing a lot of issues which makes my version of MRM look positively glowing.Djm-leighpark (talk) 13:14, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
 * I see this is now at a self-DRV Deletion_review/Log/2019_April_3 ~ Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 01:36, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – April 2019
News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2019).

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 * In Special:Preferences under "Appearance" → "Advanced options", there is now an option to show a confirmation prompt when clicking on a rollback link.
 * The Wikimedia Foundation's Community health initiative plans to design and build a new user reporting system to make it easier for people experiencing harassment and other forms of abuse to provide accurate information to the appropriate channel for action to be taken. Please see meta:Community health initiative/User reporting system consultation 2019 to provide your input on this idea.

Arbitration
 * The Arbitration Committee clarified that the General 1RR prohibition for Palestine-Israel articles may only be enforced on pages with the ARBPIA 1RR editnotice edit notice.

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Tech News: 2019-15
<section begin="technews-2019-W15"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * More wikis are now testing visual editor section editing for mobile users. You can read more.
 * Admins on French and Polish Wikipedia can block someone from editing a page or a namespace. If your wiki wants to get these blocks before they are available to all wikis, you can tell the developers.

Problems
 * You will be able read but not edit most wikis for 30 minutes on 11 April at 05:00 (UTC). This is because of a hardware problem. You can see a list of the affected wikis.
 * A map update caused some problems on 29 March and 30 March. It was rolled back.
 * Pages on some Wikivoyages had problems with the top headline. This has been fixed.

Changes later this week
 * When you add an edit summary the VisualEditor will search your recent edit summaries in case you want to re-use one. This works in both the visual and wikitext modes on desktop. It also works on the mobile site.
 * The Wikimedia wikis will get a URL shortener. This will work from 11 April. You can read more.
 * Octicons-tools.svg The  magic word will no longer work. This is for performance reasons. When you preview a page it will return   (empty string). When you read a page it will return   (dash). For now this will only affect content namespaces.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 9 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 10 April. It will be on all wikis from 11 April (calendar).

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg Octicons-tools.svg You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 10 April at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes
 * You will be able to preview references. This means that when you hover over the link you will get a popup that shows you a preview of the reference. It will work much like page previews. This is so you don't have to go to the bottom of the page to see a reference. This will now be available as a beta feature on German and Arabic Wikipedia.
 * Octicons-tools.svg The Wikidata JSON output will change. Empty containers will be serialised as empty objects. This is a breaking change that will affect tools that use JSON outputs and APIs. It will happen on 30 April. You can read more and see how to test your code.

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Boletín de la Sociedad Geológica del Perú
I realize the article I created Boletín de la Sociedad Geológica del Perú, was deleted while I was away. Could I get a copy of it to have in my own sandbox (will work on it, lets see what happens). I took me hours of effort to compile the information. Mamayuco (talk) 00:42, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅, check out User:Mamayuco/Boletín de la Sociedad Geológica del Perú. ~ Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 10:01, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

A beer for your closes at MfD

 * Thanks — I've been trying (and failing) to do more at MfD in general, but I figured it was time. Now to deal with subpages... ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 02:34, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

Why did you remove some of my information?
99721829Max (talk) 14:48, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi there ! I left you a note on your talk page that had some helpful links, I think reading this page as well as On privacy, confidentiality and discretion would be a good start.  Basically, there was a lot of overly-personal information that wasn't really appropriate as Wikipedia is not a social network and it's usually not a good idea to reveal too much personal information like that.  Does that make sense? ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 14:56, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the help
Thank you for correcting my DEFAULTSORT templates to the correct form. I keep forgetting to use the colon vice pipe. It becomes harder to remember everything all the time after 70. User:G._Moore Talk 17:43, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
 * No worries, you're doing the hard work! ~ Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 18:58, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

Soft delete?
maybe mixed up closes? Appreciate your work though! Legacypac (talk) 17:16, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Some of them have been a lot of reading, that's for sure...  That was intentional, actually; in this case, especially given your thorough nomination, I didn't feel the generic/copy-pasted comments from the two participants added or contributed much to the consensus to delete, so I took it mostly along the lines of a soft delete.  Hope that makes sense. ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 19:03, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

Please comment on Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)
The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Wikipedia:Village pump (policy). Legobot (talk) 04:38, 14 April 2019 (UTC)

Speedy keep
I think G3 applies even more now.  SITH   (talk)   18:25, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
 * It's a sandbox... Natureium (talk) 18:28, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
 * v_o_v
 *  SITH   (talk)   18:14, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Does this... mean something? ~ Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 09:56, 15 April 2019 (UTC)

Template:R-phrase and abbr
Hey, I'd like your opinion on this. Is Template:R-phrase working correctly with its use of abbr? Examples of it in use can be seen at R1 and R27/28. From my understanding it doesn't, but I'm also not sure how this should be changed. Gonnym (talk) 12:40, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
 * I am by no means an expert, but I'd agree that it's not correct. It could just be reconfigured to use Template:Hover title though, right? ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 16:16, 15 April 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-16
<section begin="technews-2019-W16"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * All wikis now have the TemplateWizard for the wikitext editor.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 16 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 17 April. It will be on all wikis from 18 April (calendar).

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg Octicons-tools.svg You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 17 April at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes
 * Wikidata will get a new constraint status called . This will change how the   constraint checking API works.
 * You can test the  property for structured data on Commons.

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Deletion review for Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Australian cricket team in England in 1948
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Australian cricket team in England in 1948. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. SportingFlyer  T · C  06:30, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Australian cricket team in England in 1948
Hi, would you be willing to overturn Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Australian cricket team in England in 1948 to no consensus? There are over 40 featured articles on the topic, so it's not obscure or narrow, it's one of the most important cricket tours in history. Furthermore all of the delete voters were from North America, where cricket is by its very nature obscure. I understand there's a desire to delete portals on obscurity grounds, but I don't know how to convince people this is not an obscure topic. SportingFlyer  T · C  00:47, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
 * I sympathize with you, I really do — I'm from NA, but as a Yankee fan I think Portal:1927 New York Yankees season should exist — but I'd put down good money that that MfD understated the consensus. The argument was not that there isn't enough material in general — clearly there must be to make a series of featured articles — but that the literal topic of this portal was very focused and narrow.  It's not really my place to make the argument for the delete participants, so I'll leave it there, but I'm not the one you need to convince.  I don't have any good advice on how to convince others, but it's also not clear to me that you should. ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 09:44, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Honestly, the issue with this portal is what's "narrow" isn't clearly defined. I think we've been saying less than 20 articles in a bunch of the MFD discussions. I think I'm going to take this to DRV to get a few more eyeballs on it - I would be arguing a procedural error, that the topic was in fact broad enough to have a portal on, because of the poorly defined nature of "narrow scope," not necessarily that your close misinterpreted consensus. It's similar to the Portal:New England Revolution portal you deleted - what's the rule on that? Can the portal be recreated, or was it deleted with prejudice because it is too narrow of a topic? I don't think there's a clear answer there at the moment, especially with how politically charged portals are. SportingFlyer  T · C  19:52, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
 * That's certainly your prerogative, and admittedly there wasn't exactly a ton of participation in the MfD. Pages deleted at XfD should generally not be recreated unless it's clear that the reasons for deletion have been answered and dealt with and no longer apply. ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 10:07, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Deletion review/Log/2019 April 16, Special:Permalink/892689083 ~ Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 11:16, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

Precious anniversary
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:23, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks, but wow the year has gone by quickly... ~ Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 13:03, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

Mail
I sent you some mail. (For talk page stalkers, it isn't Pawn to E4). <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  11:26, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
 * All I know is I should probably respond with the Sicilian Defense. ~ Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 18:05, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-17
<section begin="technews-2019-W17"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * The advanced search function URL now shows which namespaces you search in. The namespace field is collapsed by default on the search page. You can also add new fields to the search interface through a hook.
 * The wikis now look slightly different in the mobile web version.

Changes later this week
 * There is no new MediaWiki version this week.

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg Octicons-tools.svg You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 23 April at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes
 * Wikipedia articles will have the  meta property. It adds structured data. This makes it easier for search engines to find Wikipedia articles. It also makes it easier to reuse content. There will an A/B test.

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Please comment on Wikipedia talk:Requests for adminship
The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Wikipedia talk:Requests for adminship. Legobot (talk) 04:27, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

Draft:GPS Hospitality
Good morning Hope you had your coffee,

I sent this draft for review, If you are the reviewer please let me know what I have to do to improve in order to be accepted, also there is a section in Burger King franchises (at the bottom) and GPS Hospitality for ref of why I started this article ~ thanks ~ mitch ~ Mitchellhobbs (talk) 16:45, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
 * I see this was accepted: GPS Hospitality ~ Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 14:59, 28 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your response ~ Mitchellhobbs (talk) 16:32, 28 April 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-18
<section begin="technews-2019-W18"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * The Wikipedia app for Android now invites users to add Wikidata descriptions to Wikidata objects that have Wikipedia articles but no Wikidata descriptions. It will only invite users who have added a number of Wikidata descriptions in the app without being reverted. This is to avoid spam and bad edits.

Problems
 * Tech News was late last week because of a MassMessage bug. Other newsletters had the same problem.

Changes later this week
 * You will see when you last refreshed the recent changes page. This is so you can see how recent the changes are.
 * When you write a comment in Structured Discussions but have not posted it yet your web browser will save it in  instead of  . This means you do not lose them even if you close your web browser. Structured Discussions used to be called Flow.
 * You will be able to turn off milestone notifications. Milestone notifications congratulate you when you have made certain numbers of edits.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 30 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 1 May. It will be on all wikis from 2 May (calendar).

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg Octicons-tools.svg You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 1 May at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes
 * Octicons-tools.svg The Wikidata  table will be dropped. This will affect some Wikidata tools. They need to be updated. The table has become too big which is causing problems. This will happen on 29 May. You can read more. You can ask for help if you need it.
 * Octicons-tools.svg Wikimedia wikis will soon use a token when you log out. This changes how the API works. Some tools might need to be updated.

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Forgotten deletion?
Hi, it looks as if you closed this but never deleted it, if I read the logs correctly. As the nom, I don't want to delete it myself... Fram (talk) 12:06, 30 April 2019 (UTC)

Thanks. Fram (talk) 12:19, 30 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Done! Not sure what happened, but I figure XFDCloser didn't like the weird characters and I must've not noticed the remaining blue link.  Thanks for keeping me honest! ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 12:20, 30 April 2019 (UTC)

The Signpost: 30 April 2019
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Rama Arbitration Case
You were recently listed as a party to a request for arbitration. The Arbitration Committee has accepted that request for arbitration and an arbitration case has been opened at Arbitration/Requests/Case/Rama. Evidence that you wish the arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence subpage, at Arbitration/Requests/Case/Rama/Evidence. Please add your evidence by May 10, 2019, which is when the evidence phase closes. You can also contribute to the case workshop subpage, Arbitration/Requests/Case/Rama/Workshop. For a guide to the arbitration process, see Arbitration/Guide to arbitration. For the Arbitration Committee, --  Amanda  (aka DQ) 19:41, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

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 * I think you forgot a  in ArbComOpened, but thanks for the notification regardless. It's very somber over here, no parties that I can see ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 19:46, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I screwed up the template for all 45 people. You are not a party. -- Amanda  (aka DQ) 19:49, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
 * I'll be asking the Arbs to dock your salary appropriately! ~ Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 20:11, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
 * You may not be a party, but you are still fun! Oh, wait. You deleted the bear. I change my mind. Natureium (talk) 19:52, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
 * I like to keep my userpage to just the (•_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) costcobear necessities. ~ Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 20:11, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Groan. Natureium (talk) 20:23, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

Previous listing as a party
My apologies for the above section stating that you are a party. You are not, I made a mistake with the template. -- Amanda  (aka DQ) 19:51, 2 May 2019 (UTC)


 * 🎉 ~ Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 20:11, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

Deletion review for Articles for deletion/Enterprise marketing management
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Articles for deletion/Enterprise marketing management. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review.

In view of User talk:Amorymeltzer/Archive 22 your mention of WP:POINTY (only found that 2/3 weeks ago but you mentioned it) a courtesy notification of an EMM DRV. You obviously have had no direct involvement, but just in case you decide to wade in... Thankyou.Djm-leighpark (talk) 23:32, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

ArbCom 2019 special circular
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This message was sent to all administrators following a recent motion. Thank you for your attention. For the Arbitration Committee, Cameron11598 02:55, 4 May 2019 (UTC)

Administrator account security (Correction to Arbcom 2019 special circular)
ArbCom would like to apologise and correct our previous mass message in light of the response from the community.

Since November 2018, six administrator accounts have been compromised and temporarily desysopped. In an effort to help improve account security, our intention was to remind administrators of existing policies on account security — that they are required to "have strong passwords and follow appropriate personal security practices." We have updated our procedures to ensure that we enforce these policies more strictly in the future. The policies themselves have not changed. In particular, two-factor authentication remains an optional means of adding extra security to your account. The choice not to enable 2FA will not be considered when deciding to restore sysop privileges to administrator accounts that were compromised.

We are sorry for the wording of our previous message, which did not accurately convey this, and deeply regret the tone in which it was delivered.

For the Arbitration Committee, -Cameron11598 21:03, 4 May 2019 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – May 2019
News and updates for administrators from the past month (April 2019).

Administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg HickoryOughtShirt?4 • RexxS
 * Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg Necrothesp
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Bratsche • Kyle Barbour • Kzollman • Madman

Interface administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Pharos

Bureaucrat changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg Primefac

CheckUser changes
 * Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg Reaper Eternal

Guideline and policy news
 * A request for comment concluded that creating pages in the portal namespace should be restricted to autoconfirmed users.
 * Following a request for comment, the subject-specific notability guideline for pornographic actors and models (WP:PORNBIO) was removed; in its place, editors should consult WP:ENT and WP:GNG.

Technical news
 * XTools Admin Stats, a tool to list admins by administrative actions, has been revamped to support more types of log entries such as AbuseFilter changes. Two additional tools have been integrated into it as well: Steward Stats and Patroller Stats.

Arbitration
 * In response to the continuing compromise of administrator accounts, the Arbitration Committee passed a motion amending the procedures for return of permissions (diff). In such cases, the committee will review all available information to determine whether the administrator followed "appropriate personal security practices" before restoring permissions; administrators found failing to have adequately done so will not be resysopped automatically.  All current administrators have been notified of this change.
 * Following a formal ratification process, the arbitration policy has been amended (diff). Specifically, the two-thirds majority required to remove or suspend an arbitrator now excludes (1) the arbitrator facing suspension or removal, and (2) any inactive arbitrator who does not respond within 30 days to attempts to solicit their feedback on the resolution through all known methods of communication.

Miscellaneous
 * A request for comment is currently open to amend the community sanctions procedure to exclude non XfD or CSD deletions.
 * A proposal to remove pre-2009 indefinite IP blocks is currently open for discussion.

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Tech News: 2019-19
<section begin="technews-2019-W19"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems
 * Special:Watchlist can show the wrong information. It does not always show which edits are read and which are unread. The developers are working on solving the problem.

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 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 7 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 8 May. It will be on all wikis from 9 May (calendar).

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Kepo7
Hello, it's the first time I use the Wikipedia platform to edit. Today I went to edit a post, and it was not registered, so I edited with my ip without realizing what that means. please, what should I do to be able to delete that edition and not be saved in the edition history signed with my ip and not with username. I would greatly appreciate your help.Thanks!! Kepo 7 (talk) 14:21, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi, and thanks for the message — that should be no issue. You can email me directly if you like (Special:EmailUser/Amorymeltzer) or you can send an email to the entire oversight team (Special:EmailUser/Oversight or oversight-en-wp@wikipedia.org). ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 14:44, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Email received and ✅! ~ Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 15:07, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

Deleted page text
Hi Amory, would you be able to email me the text of Draft:Practical phonetic training which was deleted under G13? I don't intend to work on it immediately so I didn't want to ask it be undeleted at REFUND, but I do want to see what the text had for potential use at Phonetics per a talk page post there from the draft author. Wugapodes [thɑk] [ˈkan.ˌʧɹɪbz] 17:23, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
 * You'd prefer email over a usersubpage, say? With multiple revisions that might be nicer for attribution, say, if you do end up resuing some material. ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 17:32, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Actually,, never mind; the content is basically identical to https://www.peterroach.net/practical-phonetic-training.html and was created whole-hog in one go, so there's likely copyright issues. I can't see a date on that page, so I can't say which came first, but that page's blog mentions an interest in Wikipedia around the time the draft was created.  I won't send on a copyvio, but at any rate, there's the page text you wanted, so win-win! ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 17:37, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
 * That's helpful to know. I suspected the texts would have overlapping content, but couldn't determine if the draft contained anything other than what was on that blog post. Thanks for looking into this for me! Wugapodes [thɑk] [ˈkan.ˌʧɹɪbz] 18:05, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-20
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 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 14 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 15 May. It will be on all wikis from 16 May (calendar).

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Please comment on Talk:Voodoo Doughnut
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You've got mail!
Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 02:51, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Replied, asking for more info. ~ Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 10:10, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

Guestbook
Hi, Just wondering if you wanted to sign my Guestbook, which is located on my User Page

many thanks, - JJBullet  ( Talk ) 13:53, 21 May 2019 (UTC)

Displaying personal email
Hi all, i have noticed that a certain user has given out their personal email on his/hers User Page, i wanted to ask you if this is allowed before i hand out a warning.... many thnaks - JJBullet  ( Talk ) 10:40, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Mass message. User answered (and told off) on my own userpage. Nick Moyes (talk) 13:46, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

User:JJBullet
Can you please block my account for a period of 7 days, i ahev had enough of wikipedia and feel that if i have my account unblocked then something bad will happen. <b style="color:black">JJ Bul let </b>  13:54, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
 * already done ~ Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 20:49, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-21
<section begin="technews-2019-W21"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * The report for phase 1 of the talk pages consultation 2019 has been published. Communities are invited to start phase 2 of the consultation on their wikis.

Problems
 * File descriptions for files from Commons were not shown properly on other Wikimedia wikis for a few days. For example the image descriptions and license information were missing. This has now been fixed.
 * Some diffs show an error message when you try to see them. The developers are working on fixing it. It could be because of some edit comments.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).

Meetings
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Future changes
 * The content translation tool on Wikipedia can use machine translations. There is a system to stop translations where the editors do not fix machine translation mistakes. This warns or stops them if they seem to just copy what the machine translation gives them. If this system is too strict or not strict enough you can tell the language team.
 * Octicons-tools.svg The Wikidata  API endpoint will remove all aliases if the request includes an empty alias. This is how it supposed to work. It has not been working this way because of a bug. This will start on 12 June.

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Looking for suggestions on how to address legal situation relevant to an article and editing there
Hi Amorymeltzer. This isn't an oversight situation in my eyes (yet), but it's weird enough that it has me thinking someone with your experience would know what to do, if anything: Talk:Axios_(website) details that editor BC1278 is claiming to have filed a libel claim against Huffington Post over an article that's used as a reference and is under dispute. has been using edit requests, arguing against the use of the reference, but this feels very strange given the legal situation. I've only rarely seen editors contact Wikipedia's legal team (so rare that I don't recall the details), but I'm wondering if it is a good idea here, or maybe other action should be taken. Any thoughts or direction would be appreciated. --Ronz (talk) 03:28, 20 May 2019 (UTC)

, you're the first oversighter that I see that's fairly active today. Maybe you have suggestions? --Ronz (talk) 19:08, 20 May 2019 (UTC)
 * There's no legal threat against Wikipedia, just a mention that the HuffPo piece might be retracted/redacted/updated/whatever if a suit is brought forth. Such litigation hasn't happened yet as far as the discussion is concerned, so until it does there's not really anything to do. Primefac (talk) 19:22, 20 May 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm not really sure what you're asking. Oversight doesn't really come into it — we don't generally hide legal threats, and even then it's unlikely to require oversight — unless you're suggesting the user in question is committing libel themselves?  The material in question is well-sourced and well-discussed, including by the editor in question.  If you think there is something that needs oversight, you should mail it in, not discuss it on-wiki.  Regarding legal, I generally agree with all of you: I don't see their statement as a legal threat but it's certainly ill-advised; I see no need to get legal involved, and saying you're considering doing so seems counter-productive at best (caveat: IANAL).  At the moment the discussions seem to be progressing productively; if things worsen, WP:ANI or WP:RSN or the like would seem to be the way to go. ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 19:26, 20 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you both for the responses. --Ronz (talk) 19:29, 20 May 2019 (UTC)

Refund request
Hello AM, could you please restore all the subpages of Portal:Reptiles and Portal:Amphibians that you deleted due to this request? We want to compare the current single page version with the old historical version, and need to have the subpages in order make that comparison. UnitedStatesian (talk) 21:31, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Sure, where's the discussion? That is, who's "we?" ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 19:27, 20 May 2019 (UTC)
 * We is: the participants of WikiProject Portals. The specific discussion is at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Portals and in the threads that followed. Thanks again. UnitedStatesian (talk) 19:28, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅ Just referenced you since there don't seem to be any ongoing discussions. ~ Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 20:54, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:List of law clerks of the Supreme Court of the United States
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Rollback for Accesscrawl
Hi Amory. Can you restore my rollback right? The 2 month trial was expired. I have used rollback with care and never abused it. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Accesscrawl (talk • contribs) 08:21, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
 * I've extended your trial for a few more months — your edits with it were mostly fine AFAICT but you weren't particularly active. I had a few concerns about cases where it might've been better to leave a custom edit summary where maybe the person you reverted was editing in good-faith, so do consider that. ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 09:46, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

Scripting help
Hi. Do you think you can take a look at User:DannyS712 test/redirects.js? I'm building a bot to automatically patrol redirects, but I can't get it to properly patrol the pages. The  function is triggered for all of the pages, but only the first in each run is actually patrolled. I don't know enough about javascript to figure this out. Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 07:46, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
 * What's the error? If you're sure the code is being reached and you're doing bulk work, I'd imagine it's a token issue. ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 18:53, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Well, the "console.log( "Should patrol: " + pageId);" is reached, but it doesn't actually do the patrolling. I use the token via API.postWithToken. Do you have any suggested changes? --DannyS712 (talk) 07:39, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
 * So are there no errors? I'd add an onRejected function to your , that should spit out what the issue is. ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 09:54, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
 * That is, something like:
 * ~ Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 09:55, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
 * I didn't see this, but I tried it differently and found out the issue: ratelimit. Thanks though, --DannyS712 (talk) 07:20, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
 * I didn't see this, but I tried it differently and found out the issue: ratelimit. Thanks though, --DannyS712 (talk) 07:20, 27 May 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-22
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Changes later this week
 * Octicons-tools.svg Big changes to the replica database will happen on 3 June. Some tools on Cloud Services will stop working if the maintainers do not update them to use the new schema. This probably affects tools that query for revisions or log entries made by a user.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 28 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 29 May. It will be on all wikis from 30 May (calendar).

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Thanks
I just wanted to take a moment to thank you for your time and efforts on Wikipedia. Your calm amidst the storms is always welcomed, as is your good cheer and thoughtful use of the sysop toolset. On top of all that fantastic work you also do such fantastic work in developing Twinkle, an essential tool for so many of us. Thanks for all that you do. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 14:52, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much, ! That's really very kind and really means a lot. ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 15:48, 29 May 2019 (UTC)

Redirect for discussion
Hello Amorymeltzer. I think I saw you close a discussion for a redirect. Could you help me close Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2019_May_27? I am the proposer. There are many opposes, so could you help me close either as a withdraw or WP:SNOW? Thanks.  starship .paint  (talk) 10:31, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅ ~ Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 11:36, 30 May 2019 (UTC)

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Portal:Queen
Hi. I am inclined to close Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2019_May_18 by moving Portal:Queen_(band) to Portal:Queen. The consensus seems clear on this one and the outcome logical, and I'm not persuaded that this simple action should be blocked by the "Music Portals" debate. However, I don't wish to step on your toes. Do you see an end in sight for the discussion at Miscellany_for_deletion/Music_Portals_by_Moxy, and if not are you OK with me closing the Queen discussion and leaving a note at the "Music Portals" debate to that effect? --kingboyk (talk) 16:11, 2 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Meh, go ahead. I was thinking I might try and go do the Moxy MfD, but a quick scan suggests the Queen portal may well avoid deletion, so I say go for it. ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 16:46, 2 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I considered closing the Moxy MfD myself, but... it's complicated and I've not been terribly active recently so felt it best left to somebody who knows what they're doing. I should probably recuse myself anyway as I co-founded WikiProject The Beatles :) Good luck if you decide to close it and I await the outcome with interest.
 * The Queen portal move wasn't quite as easy as I imagined it to be; specifically, there are 2 conflicting pages where I'm not sure which version should be kept: Portal:Queen (band)/Intro vs Portal:Queen/Intro, and Portal:Queen (band)/box-header vs Portal:Queen/box-header. Could you advise? --kingboyk (talk) 17:39, 2 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Only Portal:Queen/box-header is actually being used out of those four, and the content isn't particularly different aside from color, so might as well not change anything (plus I think it looks better). I do think you should restore the redirect from Portal:Queen (band) though, as it'd existed there for a while and does have a few incoming links.  No harm in having a redirect.  Also, I fixed the transclusion of the article's content from the Portal page itself. ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c)
 * I've edited the templates which link to the Portal which takes care of most of the incoming links, and was going to work through the rest manually, but having a redirect in place certainly eases the burden so I've done that. I'll also delete the 3 pages which aren't being used. Thanks for the advice and help - very much appreciated! --kingboyk (talk) 18:08, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-23
<section begin="technews-2019-W23"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * You can now write all special letters in all African Wikipedia languages. This works in the desktop version.
 * There is now a field called  on Commons. This is a way to show what is in a picture with the help of Wikidata. It is still in development.
 * Some tools on Toolforge may break on or after 3 June because of database changes. Maintainers should update their tools to use the new schema.

Problems
 * You will be able to read but not to edit Wikimedia Commons for 30 minutes on 19 June at 05:00 (UTC). This is to fix a hardware problem.

Changes later this week
 * Some wikis have one tab for the visual editor and one tab for a wikitext editor. Others wikis just have one tab. If your wiki has two tabs, clicking a link to create a new page has always opened a wikitext editor. It will now open the editor you used the last time you edited.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 4 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 5 May. It will be on all wikis from 6 May (calendar).

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Please help me
Hello, this is my user page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bharatiya_Ladka which I created recently now I forgot the password I didn't add my email please help me how can I recover my account. Thanking you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2405:204:431B:ACB1:F42C:7EFF:FE97:3A5E (talk) 05:58, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry to hear that! According to Help:Logging in, though, you're unlikely to be able to regain access to the account.  Personally, I'd wait a bit and see if you can remember the password over the coming days before doing anything. ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 10:02, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Okk is it possible to delete this account and create a new one — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2405:204:431B:ACB1:F42C:7EFF:FE97:3A5E (talk) 13:17, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
 * There's no deleting account, you just stop using it. You are free to create another account. ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 17:52, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

Please comment on Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard
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Administrators' newsletter – June 2019
News and updates for administrators from the past month (May 2019). Administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Andonic • Consumed Crustacean • Enigmaman • Euryalus • EWS23 • HereToHelp • Nv8200pa • Peripitus • StringTheory11 • Vejvančický

CheckUser changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Ivanvector

Guideline and policy news
 * An RfC seeks to clarify whether WP:OUTING should include information on just the English Wikipedia or any Wikimedia project.
 * An RfC on WT:RfA concluded that Requests for adminship and bureaucratship are discussions seeking to build consensus.
 * An RfC proposal to make the templates for discussion (TfD) process more like the requested moves (RM) process, i.e. "as a clearinghouse of template discussions", was closed as successful.

Technical news
 * The CSD feature of Twinkle now allows admins to notify page creators of deletion if the page had not been tagged. The default behavior matches that of tagging notifications, and replaces the ability to open the user talk page upon deletion.  You can customize which criteria receive notifications in your Twinkle preferences: look for Notify page creator when deleting under these criteria.
 * Twinkle's d-batch (batch delete) feature now supports deleting subpages (and related redirects and talk pages) of each page. The pages will be listed first but use with caution!  The und-batch (batch undelete) option can now also restore talk pages.

Miscellaneous
 * The previously discussed unblocking of IP addresses indefinitely-blocked before 2009 was approved and has taken place.
 * The 2019 talk pages consultation produced a report for Phase 1 and has entered Phase 2.

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