User talk:Andonic/Archive 21

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 * Will you join?-- RyRy5  talk  02:36, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Featured article candidates/Cannon
Can you remove the small print please...it makes it really hard to read. You can collapse that long list of refs once the issues are solved, but for now I'd like to be able to read it! dihydrogen monoxide (H2O) 01:04, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

You've got mail
Replied. The second e-mail has the page numbers needed. I don't know how you or Nishkid want it to be formatted, so I'll leave it to you.  bibliomaniac 1 5  Midway upon life's journey... 00:17, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Barnstars
While I realize that I have currently been awarding many barnstars, all of them have been through WP:AWC, which I currently run. Generally speaking, I award one barnstar per task. It just so happens that I post the vast majority of tasks on WP:AWC and as such I end up awarding the most barnstars. I understand that I have a troubled past regarding that issue, but unfortunately this is a responsibility that was thrown at me after User:The_Transhumanist took his wikihiatus. I have asked other Wikipedians to help me with the project (including MFC), but as of yet I can't find anyone to help. If you wish to help, I would be incredibly grateful, as managing the entire project myself has become a timesink and prevents me from my other Wiki-duties. Thanks for looking out for me, -- Shark face  217  23:34, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Vandal 206.235.249.59
This anon IP user who has been blocked several times (most recently by you) is back to his/her old tricks. Gr8white (talk) 17:28, 25 March 2008 (UTC)


 * IP got a one month block and the talk page was protected.  Enigma  msg! 17:31, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Wikibreak
Don't stay away too long :P :) Seraphim&hearts;  Whipp 01:33, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

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14 edits in a minute today
I'm sure you've topped that, but that's got to be close to a personal high for me. Can't remember seeing that before.  Enigma  message 05:18, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Incorrect Article revert notification
Hi! I received a message indicating that you reverted some changes made on the article for Buffer solution. However, I did not in fact make the edits and and I'm pretty sure the IP is not mine. I've made a couple of other edits and none of them show up under that address. No apologies necessary; I know that's the sort of thing that happens when you're an anonymous user. I just wanted to let you know your message went astray. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.51.114.174 (talk) 06:47, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Huggle Whitelist
Something I just thought of: The whitelist should be semi-protected. It hasn't had a vandalism problem yet, but since no IP address should be editing it anyway... What do you think?  Enigma  message 05:47, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Nicholas Hilliard
Thank you very much for congratulating me on my good fortune:-)--Pataki Márta (talk) 12:48, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Tzatziki Squad/Cannon/Thank you
Thanks for the barnstar, I'm quite pleased with everyone's work. You did most of it though...it's nice to collaborate when people actually work on the article. ;) If J-stan's picking the next one (or really if anyone's picking), we should make a template to inform people of the new collaboration, it might attract more people to join the next one. Keilana | Parlez ici 18:05, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
 * That's fine, we should put the word out that we're working on this article, though. It's an interesting topic, I'm going source-hunting later today. :) I haven't been in a proper collaboration - that met its goals - ever, so it was quite a pleasant surprise. I hope we can keep going on the same track, people may start to burn out. D'you want me to do the talkpage poking? Keilana | Parlez ici 19:07, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
 * OK, I'll go do some spamming. :) Enjoy reading, it may give you some ideas for articles...hint, hint. I'll try to get some work in today, it's a fascinating topic. Also, we should make a list of possible MP dates for Cannon, I was thinking Jan. 28. Any ideas? Keilana | Parlez ici 20:35, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I'd say either June or December, which would you like? Keilana | Parlez ici 21:13, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
 * June 18 sounds good, I'll put a little notice on the TSQUAD page so we remember. ;) Hopefully we'll be around to revert all the vandals. It's a pretty core article, so that should help our odds. I looked at the stats, and it gets around 1000-1100 views a day. :) Keilana | Parlez ici 21:34, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
 * It's here; we seem to consistently get 700-1000 without hordes of people collaborating, see December 2007. That tool is *awesome*. Keilana | Parlez ici 02:07, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Cannon
Aww...you and Keilana deserve most of the credit. Oh well, there's no "I" in "squad."  bibliomaniac 1 5  Hey you! Stop lazing around and help fix this article instead! 20:18, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank you, it is my first FA. And congratulations also on 500+ excellent edits to the article. Who knows, I might even chime in to help with your next collaboration. ;-) --Grimhelm (talk) 15:29, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll see what I can do! --Grimhelm (talk) 13:38, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Peer review: 4X
Hey there. I've been working a bit on the 4X strategy game genre article. I really don't deserve much credit, though -- I've mostly been referencing what's already there and cleaning it up. I was hoping you could participate in the peer review of the article. I expect/hope at least one other person will chime in. But either way, I would like to get at least two opinions on the article, to have an idea on how to best move forward. Do what you can, at your leisure... Randomran (talk) 23:31, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for getting back to me so quickly. I'll try to remind you later this week. No hurry. I'm pretty busy these days too. Maybe you could remind me to remind you? (j/k) Randomran (talk) 23:53, 30 March 2008 (UTC)


 * This is your friendly reminder for a peer review :) Let me know what you think of 4X. Anything you can offer is helpful. Particularly on the kinds of things that help a B-status article reach GA.


 * One quick request that would help the article the most: I already know there's a lot of original research. A peer review from last year said that, and the article has come a long way since then. There's still some ways to go, so saying that there's too much original research is already kind of obvious. But if you do focus on WP:OR, the most helpful thing you can do is help create a mandate for fixing specific sections. In particular, the "Technology Tree" (s2.5), and "Constraints" (s2.9) have been huge headaches. If you can get specific about the OR, then editors trying to weed out OR could point to specific things we need to do, and use that to justify big edits. The hardest thing to do in wikipedia is explain why true information should be deleted, due to a lack of references. Randomran (talk) 00:15, 4 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Hey there... I figure you're busy, but I figured I'd mention it again anyway. I'd like to see another video game genre article reach GA status. I'm busy too, so no rush. I was just gonna see if it was still on your radar, and when you might be able to get around to it. Randomran (talk) 14:48, 13 April 2008 (UTC)


 * No problem! You're helping wikipedia, so no need to apologize. Whatever you do, please give us the push that can break us out of the current consensus. Be tough and be specific! Otherwise it will be hard to make certain big changes without an edit war. Randomran (talk) 16:09, 13 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks a lot for your attention so far. When you talk about reducing use of examples (e.g.: "such and such game is a good example of this") the more specific you can be the better. Not for my sake, but for the sake of all the other editors. So far, editors have been eager to re-instate and add as many examples as possible. If you want to say "almost all the examples are unnecessary and should be removed", please say that. Or if there are specific sections where it doesn't help, please point that out. Maybe I'm being overly cautious, but it would be a big waste if we can't act on your peer review because of edit wars. Randomran (talk) 18:59, 13 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks a million! Randomran (talk) 00:17, 14 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Once again, I'm just thankful you're doing this at all. I understand that things come up that get in the way. Looking forward to your review. And, again, the more specific the better. If you can cite several examples with your criticisms, it will be easier to build a consensus to address them. If the criticisms are too abstract or summary-like, I worry there will be no consensus to move forward. Randomran (talk) 02:42, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for the great and thorough peer review! I think this should give us a lot of help to build a new consensus as we move forward. At least I hope so. I have the smallest request though. For record keeping purposes, could you copy and paste your review to the peer review request? It would make it easier for us to show that the article has had an authoritative reviewer that we responded to. If nothing else, it's helpful for showing that the peer review has been carried out. Thanks again! Randomran (talk) 02:47, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

One last time, thanks :) Randomran (talk) 14:21, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

RfA Thanks
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The Picture of Germanicus Caeser on the Vandalism Page.
You wouldn't happen to know anything more about that picture would you? As in, did the artist who put the cross in the center of the fore-head also snub out the nose? Was it vandalised by more than one person/groups of people? Did you take the picture yourself? I only ask because the cross clearly was placed with care, while it looks like someone dragged the bust across a rock-face to degrade the nose. Thank you! Paladin Hammer (talk) 21:32, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Just wanted to say thank you for your response and the help regarding the Dunbar robbery! It's my goal here to try and source everything I can, as Wikipedia can be incredibly misleading without them. Thanks again! Paladin Hammer (talk) 02:09, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

you may be interested
in Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents/Great Cabal Debate. DGG (talk) 08:04, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

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HoTD
Sure, is there anything specifically confusing? Jus tin (Gmail?)(u) 21:40, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

cabal things
in cased you missed it there is a discussions on cabals here. Also if that tires you out, you may like my comment here. One request, If the end result is mass delete, could you send me a copy of the source code of my currently deleted 42nd cabal I would like a copy for my personal records, thanks -- Pewwer42  Talk 01:55, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Crysis.
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correct
That's correct. I took it literally as a "request for comment" and provided commentary which I felt set the scene for this situation, including my view that the "cabal" issue was a red herring in this particular case. Orderinchaos 13:51, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

History of timekeeping devices.
Hi, I was wondering what your opinion would be on an article "History of timekeeping devices in Egypt". I'm getting a lot on shadow clocks, sundials, merkhet, etc., and I think it would be a reasonable content fork, plus a possible Tzatziki Squad DYK. ;) Thoughts? Keilana | Parlez ici 00:42, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll create it now, can I just fork the content for now? I'm thinking that we can shorten the stuff on the main page a bit, and really expand on the Egypt page. First TSQUAD DYK? ;) Keilana | Parlez ici 00:50, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I've nominated it for DYK, if you think of a better hook please put it in...mine's terrible. Keilana | Parlez ici 01:51, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * It's actually about 2.6 kilobytes, thus meeting the criteria...am I missing something here? Keilana | Parlez ici 01:58, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Question on IP block
I have a question. You told me on MSN that we shouldn't block IPs indefinetely. What if that IP is obviously sockpuppeting (as in the case of Requests for checkuser/Case/Community service)? Indef block or leave it alone? OhanaUnitedTalk page 20:17, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
 * IPs should only be blocked indefinitely if they are open proxies, or completely static. There's the issue that IPs blocked indefinitely may switch to a different owner. Best just to block it for a few months or something.  Majorly  (talk) 20:34, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, a month or so would probably be best in this case. If they're constantly rotating their IP address (example), then even a week is enough, as they'll probably not use the same one twice. · AndonicO  Hail!  23:20, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok, thanks. The reason I asked about this is because in some game forums, I blocked some troublemakers with IPs from Singapore. Turns out Singapore only has a few ISP. The IP range is narrow and every time you click a new page, the IP changes. That's why I wasn't sure what to do with dynamic IPs when they're used by vandals. OhanaUnited<b style="color:green;">Talk page</b> 02:14, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
 * In that case, it should be range blocked.  Majorly  (talk) 11:31, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Lori Rom
Hi! I recently added some info to an article about an actress called Lori Rom. Would you mind editing it? Here's the link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lori_Rom. Thank! Neptunekh (talk) 16:54, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

DYK
You beat me to the update - I went to edit the main template, and had a strange feeling of deja vu! Would you care to distribute the prizes, as I ought to get some sleep? Regards, BencherliteTalk 23:13, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I see from your contributions that you're already doing that. Thanks.  'Night.  BencherliteTalk 23:15, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

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RFA Thanks
Thank you for your comments on my RFA. Even though it failed with 28 supports, 42 opposes, and 15 neutrals, I am grateful for the suggestions and advice I have received and I do hope to improve as a Wikipedian. If you ever need my help in any endeavor, feel free to drop me a line. -- Shark face  217  20:01, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Ivan Sidorenko image
Hi there, very nice article you've got going. So the image you've found isn't PD-Russia? Manxruler (talk) 01:02, 14 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Yeah. That's the same image I found when I googled Sidenko. I'm pretty sure that's PD-Russia. Go ahead, upload, to Commons if you have a page there. Manxruler (talk) 01:51, 14 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Nice photo you just added, I took the liberty of editing its Commons info a bit. Manxruler (talk) 17:06, 14 April 2008 (UTC)


 * That's fine, it was my pleasure. Are you going to add an infobox to the article too? Manxruler (talk) 19:56, 14 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Military person sounds right. By the way, the image is the official portrait taken of Sidorenko after he received the Hero of the Soviet union medal, according to this book. Manxruler (talk) 20:11, 14 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Nothing more that I can see. We might add some headlines, but that'll be a bit hard seeing as we really only know of his wartime exploits. Otherwise there would be room for stuff like "early years" and post-war life" etc. Manxruler (talk) 20:45, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

4X
Hi, no offense meant but I've just undone your recent edit of the intro to 4X. Your text was "Many typical features of 4X games have been implemented in computer games since the 1970s, and even board games have had them." In normal English usage "Many typical features of 4X games have been implemented ..." implies that 4X games came first and other games copied features from them, because a perfect tense following a set of statements in the past tense normally describes subsequent or even consequent events - yes, the sentence continues "... since the 1970s", but that makes the sentence change meaning halfway through, which will give readers a jolt and may confuse some. "... even board games have had them" makes the similarities between some board games and many 4X games seem like a coincidence, when in fact fact it's a causal link from board games to 4X games. My text which I've reinstated is "Many typical features of 4X games had appeared earlier, in board games and in 1970s computer games." This states the main point up front, that 4X games were not the first to have the features now associated with 4X. I've used the pluperfect tense because the preceding paragraphs establish 2 reference dates well back in the past (Civ in 1991, MoO and the coining of "4X" in 1993) and in that situation the pluperfect is correct. If you think readers won't understand the use of the pluperfect, I'd be happy with ""Many typical features of 4X games appeared earlier, ...." (simple past tense). As I said, no offence meant, and I look forward to seeing your other edits (I know that a few days / weeks later when I re-read what I've written, I often want to re-phrase). Philcha (talk) 14:33, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Hi

I'm sorry but I dont' think your edits to "Long playing times are entirely an improvement:
 * The change from "... take multiple sessions over multiple days, while multiplayer matches can take much longer" to "... take multiple sessions over multiple days, while multiplayer matches longer, still" just doesn't work for me.
 * The change from "... one does not expect serious warfare before about turn 110" to "... one should not expect major war campaigns before about turn 110" is OK as English but I think is more likely to mislead. The actual words of the article cited are "In a large universe, given the extra distance, you should expect at least one enemy Battleship to attack you by turn 110 (turn 80 given a convenient wormhole). You can often be hit by three or more battleships by turn 120." I admit I was paraphrasing heavily, in order not to confuse readers with specifc details of MoO2 (wormholes; the fact that a battleship usually has the firepower to destroy a starbase sinlge-handed, while smaller ships do not). But 1 battleship doesn't constitute a campaign, although 3 might if they're advanced enough. It might be a good idea for us to discuss the best way to summarise what the cited article says without distracting readers from the 4X genre by adding MoO2-specific terms.
 * The change from "... "beer-and-pretzels" games that one expects to complete in a single session" to "... "beer-and-pretzels" games that one completes in a single session" might be taken to imply that "beer-and-pretzels" games require completion in 1 session, e.g. because you can't save games. The original wording either implies nothing or implies that one does not always need to complete a "beer-and-pretzels" game in 1 session. Philcha (talk) 19:43, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

DYK

 * Nice work. Cirt (talk) 13:11, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Are you aware of the Triple Crown awards ? (Forgive me if you've already received recognition of this sort) - but you'd be eligible for the "Imperial crown jewels" ... Cirt (talk) 13:26, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Well, I'd encourage you to put yourself up for the Imperial, at User:Durova/Triple crown winner's circle/Nominations. You deserve it. Cirt (talk) 13:49, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Sidorenko
Thanks for updating my DYK count, but I didn't get credit for Sidorenko, so there's no increase in my DYK count. Manxruler (talk) 18:04, 16 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks, I appreciate it. It was nice cooperating with you. Manxruler (talk) 19:56, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

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Request for participation in Peer Review of The Orange Box
The Orange Box, an article that you recently commented on at Featured Article nomination, has been put up for peer review. Please can you take the time to re-examine the article for anything that you feel remains an issue. Should you have any comments or concerns, please can you add them to the discussion. It is hoped that once this peer review is complete that the article will be resubmitted for consideration as a featured article.

Many thanks for both your time and valuable input. --Gazimoff (talk) 15:05, 17 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I've responsed to the review comments and hope I've addressed most concerns, but I have a few follow-up questions as well. Please can you take a look when you have a moment and let me know what you think. Many thanks! Gazimoff (talk) 14:43, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

How are you?
Good I hope. I am requesting to have the Rollback permission replaced on my account. I was unaware of the indepthness of the issue that I was getting into yesterday. The admin who took action yesterday and removed from my account is unavaliable at this time, and has stated that I may reapply for use of the tool again. I am finding it aggravating to attempt to revert vandalism and having to go through the undo function. Thanks for your consideration. <font face="Ravie"><font color="#ff0000">D <font color="#ff6600">u <font color="#009900">s <font color="#0000ff">t <font color="#6600cc">i speak and be heard! 21:05, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Disregard, the speaking admin who removed it has replaced it on my account. <font face="Ravie"><font color="#ff0000">D <font color="#ff6600">u <font color="#009900">s <font color="#0000ff">t <font color="#6600cc">i speak and be heard! 12:26, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
 * That's ok. I get really busy sometimes as well. <font face="Ravie"><font color="#ff0000">D <font color="#ff6600">u <font color="#009900">s <font color="#0000ff">t <font color="#6600cc">i speak and be heard! 14:54, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Recent message to me regarding Spoilers
Hi, just read your message about the change I made to the BioShock page where I put a line in explaining about the Spoilers. I run my own Xbox 360 website and get asked about information on various games an I normally ask them to Wiki said game, I have recently had some people coming to me telling me that the game BioShock has now been severely spoiled due to the Wiki Page so I checked it out for myself. In the Story Section I expected to read a synopsis or just a brief explanation on the game (ie story information you would probably find in the user manual of the game itself) only to have the full game also spoiled for me too (I've not completed the game yet...now I don't have to!!! grrr.). The Wiki story section going into incredible detail about who the character really is, who he's related to, all the story twists and the complete ending.

Its just like telling someone who's never seen Star Wars that Darth Vader is Luke Skywalker's father, or that GlaDos (famous AI from Portal) is really trying to kill you etc.

Thats is the only reason I added that warning.

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TfD
I closed this TfD as speedy keep. So I went to remove the TfD notice in Chinese. Even though I removed the tag already, the same notice is still visible in documentation section. I took some time and still can't find where the notice is placed. Can you fix it for me? <b style="color:#0000FF;">OhanaUnited</b><b style="color:green;">Talk page</b> 19:50, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Opps, you're right. I forgot to purge. <b style="color:#0000FF;">OhanaUnited</b><b style="color:green;">Talk page</b> 01:03, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

The Seventh Coin
Hi! Would you mind editing a page called the Seventh coin? I added to that page recently? Here's the link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Seventh_Coin Thanks!Neptunekh (talk) 00:01, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Adminship Anniversary
And thanks for answering my question on Steve's page. I have seen you around and I think you're a good admin. Cheers.--<font color="navy" face="Times New Roman">RyRy5 (<font color="navy" face="Times New Roman">talk  ♠ <font color="navy" face="Times New Roman">wikify ) 01:49, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
 * That works. But it says "AndonicO/Awards" instead of "AndonicO" since you put it in a different page name BTW.--<font color="navy" face="Times New Roman">RyRy5 (<font color="navy" face="Times New Roman">talk  ♠ <font color="navy" face="Times New Roman">wikify ) 01:57, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Just to tell you. When I was about a one or two week old user here, I would always come visit your userpage. Since then, I never did. About a month later, I say your name and it looked familiar. Now, I visited your userpage and I remembered you from the knight on your page. I just thought I'd let you know.--<font color="navy" face="Times New Roman">RyRy5 (<font color="navy" face="Times New Roman">talk  ♠ <font color="navy" face="Times New Roman">wikify ) 02:02, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for reverting that weak insult on my talk page. Buckteeth? Sad. =\ -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 01:53, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Copyedit?
Age of Empires; now at FAC. Please! :) dihydrogen monoxide (H2O) 09:41, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks! And yeah, good catch on the FAC page length :D dihydrogen monoxide (H2O) 08:36, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Happy Adminship
'''Wishing User: a very happy adminship anniversary on behalf of the Birthday Committee! Idontknow 610 TM 10:40, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Ureliable source
Hi, I wander how did you determine that the book Помаците и торбешите в Мизия, Тракия и Македония by Хюсеин Мехмед is unreliable? Even well known Bulgarian authors as Petar Yapov give it a credit. Of course you don't know that because you haven't even read the intro which was actually written by that author, but you could immediately determine that the book is not a reliable source. Even though it was printed in 2007 and is the newest book regarding the topic and even though it gives 521 references and cites 104 sources. As of now it is the best research dedicated on the Pomaks and even the Bulgarian Helsinki Committe regards it as a very important work that fills a great gap of the history of the Pomaks. --Chech Explorer (talk) 12:17, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks
Hope things are well.  Enigma  message 22:21, 28 April 2008 (UTC)