User talk:Andonic/Archive 23

Request to proofread a Ninja
Hi AndonicO. EyeSerene has finished copyediting the article for Ninja Gaiden (2004 video game). He requested that I get someone to proofread the article before I consider to put it up at FAC. I would like to request your help in this as you are a non-participant in the Wikiproject Video Games and have considerable contribution to the FA (articles and process) on Wikipedia. Jappalang (talk) 21:58, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * No problems, I am willing to wait. Maybe a week later? Jappalang (talk) 22:24, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay, I will ask a week or so later. Jappalang (talk) 23:04, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Egyptians
Hello, you seem to have done a good job solving problems on Coptic-related topics before. Can you please make user:Yolgnu understand that reverting referenced information is considered vandalism? This is inreference to the verified and referenced information he continues to revert on Egyptians. Thank you. --Lanternix (talk) 00:36, 7 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Can you also keep an eye on this guy? This IP address is the most recent one that seems to be agressively diruptive on "Copt" (see this edit). Thanks, ~ Troy (talk) 02:32, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I've protected Egyptians, and left a note on the talk page. As for the IP address, his only disruptive edit was this one; I'll check his contribs a few days from now to see if he continued. · AndonicO Engage. 13:32, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

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Thanks
Thanks for reverting the vandalism to my page. --Nlu (talk) 14:30, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

H Kramer and Company
Hello, I was wondering if you could remove the protection from this page. We are attempting to update the site with correct company information. We will be glad to reference the Pilsen Perro organization in the article but nowhere in the article does it state anything about the true company itself.

I was not trying to vandalize, just trying to get the information current and true.

Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by A1NTME (talk • contribs) 16:55, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

FTW
Re: Hi, please don't keep readding this; it doesn't belong there.

One could say the same to you, or whoever is reverting it. (Do you have a separate account?) It does belong there, as is demonstrated in the talk page. Whoever is reverting it without discussing is the person who should be messaged. 75.40.251.3 (talk) 17:56, 8 June 2008 (UTC)


 * The guy keeps going. Four times now.  Enigma  message 18:10, 8 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes I'm getting rather sick of having to revert it. The content belongs there, as is demonstrated by a consensus in the talk page. 75.40.251.3 (talk) 18:39, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for making the effort of finding a source. It felt as if my efforts were being ignored/reverted simply because I was editing from an IP and not a username. I hope there is not an assumption that IP editors are less reputable than named users. It's too bad if that has become the case. I apologize for violating the 3 revision rule, but it seems unfair that only I was blocked from further edits, especially if only for the fact that I lack a username. I actually have a username, but I elect to do most of my edits by IP. Anyway, I again thank you for finding a source. I am glad to see this worked out. 75.40.251.3 (talk) 19:54, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

H. Kramer company
Hi. I didn't revert "by mistake" (see User talk:A1NTME), I reverted because A1NTME replaced the article with the same unsourced advertisment as Correctedit used to do. Channel &reg;  21:34, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

You are absolutely right. My mistake. I'll strike the warning. Channel &reg;  21:54, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Hold on, no! He writes "I simply put in the correct information about the company and the services it provides to the world.". Not "I added categories". And on your own page here he writes "We are attempting to update the site with correct company information." I now have a VERY strong suspicion that he's the same person as Correctedit and the IP that edited before him. Channel &reg;  21:57, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

So while we both agree that Correctedit, IP 71.176.225.57, and A1NTME are more than likely the same person, I can't warn A1NTME because the vandalism a few minutes earlier was done by IP 71.176.225.57? Eventhough they are the same guy? Hm. I see your point but it doesn't feel right to me. Channel &reg;  11:46, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Coptic Language
Hello, AdonicO. Sorry for putting a lot on your plate, but this seems to be quite urgent. The article, found here, is being constantly reverted before we have even reached a consensus on its discussion page. I've have tried to at least convince the user, but I've had no luck thus far. The discussion can be found here. Thank-you! ~ Troy (talk) 00:54, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't know where else to post this--Wikipedia "wikifies" so many things that it's impossible to find a simple "Click here" link. The Coptic language article has a basic problem--there are very vocal proponents of Coptic revival who have a couple of POV websites as "evidence" that the Coptic language has either not gone extinct or has been revived.  The entire scientific community, however, along with all the scientific bibliography, says that Coptic went extinct in the 17th century or so.  They have continually pushed their minority position and accused those of us who have the preponderence of the evidence of "edit warring.  Their web sites have not been scientifically verified and are highly POV.  The other problem is that three of their four sources are not in English, but in Arabic, so they are unusable for the majority of Wikipedia users.  I am willing to put some compromise language in the article to reflect the attempt to revive Coptic from the dead.  Indeed, the article already contained the seeds of such a statement.  But to remove all reference to Coptic's extinction in the 17th century is scientifically unjustified.  If these guys insist on Wikipedia administrative involvement, then I request arbitration.  I am not very good at templates, wikilinks, etc. so please make the instructions plain and simple without a lot of "wikification", if possible. (Taivo (talk) 03:14, 9 June 2008 (UTC))
 * Today, I have responded to this issue here. Also, I'd like to thank you for preventing this edit war for continuing. I would appreciate it if Taivo could make a new agreement with the others (depending on the circumstances; the discussion is likely long from over, so it's important to prevent editing in the near future). Understandibly, the articles (Egypt-related or not) have often been subject to disputes, so for me, this is nothing new. ~ Troy (talk) 01:27, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * There has been some agreement reached on compromise wording on the Coptic language page. We need to get the article unlocked to insert it.  (Taivo (talk) 03:24, 17 June 2008 (UTC))

Thanks
Thanks! 202.79.62.21 (talk) 14:24, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank You
Thanks for the comment on my RFA. There is no reason for me to take it personal, unless my mom wrote it *angry face*. These are all comments and ideas of ways for me to approve, and there is nothing I can do but work on them. :)  &lt;3  Tinkleheimer   TALK!!  19:05, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the help on Crackdown
I think the intro sections needed the most work ( as that pretty much was what was cited before). Thanks again for the copyedit. --MASEM 19:21, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Copyediting
Hello AndonicO, I'm Pericles, nice to meet you. I was looking through a list of those who could help with peer review, and I picked you (how special! lol) out of a list of names to help with an article on Zhang Heng, which I've recently nominated for FA status. I was wondering if you would be so kind as to read through it and copyedit where necessary. Thank you!-- Pericles of Athens  Talk 19:24, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
 * No problem! Take your time. I'm glad you liked Technology of the Song Dynasty.-- Pericles of Athens  Talk 21:36, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Unprotecting Potential superpowers
Hey, could you please unblock Potential superpowers. The dispute on the talk page has been resolved and a new improved, better sourced ediition has been created and is waiting to be added to the page. Full unprotection or semii-protection would both work well. There is simply no need for the protection, as things have simmered down. Thanks. --Hobie Hunter (talk) 21:28, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Srbosjek
You have started with that so can I please ask you protection of article Ivo Andrić until Requests for checkuser/Case/J. A. Comment is closed. Comments for this checkuser case has been that I need to rewrite evidence so can you tell me your thinking if now it will be OK ?--Rjecina (talk) 02:12, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks --Rjecina (talk) 02:27, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Err...
"Not as bad as not signing when you've commented on an autograph book, eh? ;) Could you please point out where I've forgotten to put note sections, please (I hate digging through my userspace...)?" LOL, you're right. I did realize the mistake and corrected it immediately.

The notes I was talking of involved sentences like these:

"I am an American male, born in Florida, though I do not think highly of the State. I characterize as a 'geek,'"

Since, you've not included a "notes" section on your page, one does not get to read the nested text ("Reasons: heat, mosquitoes, humidity." and "From the article's examples, I am these: science fiction, computer, science, chemistry, history, gamer, classical music, and literature geek; if you would like to discuss any of these&mdash;or other, even&mdash;topics, feel free to leave me a message, or e-mail me.)")upon clicking " and ". May be you'd like to include a "Notes" section with at the bottom of the page like this (I'm saying this with complete knowledge that you must be much better than me at both Wikimarkup and HTML, but doing so to only keep myself clear):

Err...err...
Hi again! Well, I just realized going through the source of your page that you've indeed put a "notes" section, but just that it requires to be expanded to see the notes. Well, eating words might be better for my health than eating junk food ;) All the best. And, of course you can always thank me for "causing" you so much entertainment!

Bye. Take care.

—Ketan Panchal  t aL K  10:13, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

POV pusher at Barack Obama
User:Life.temp gutted the article, removing a total of 732 words in two consecutive edits: I placed the following warning on his/her Talk page and on the article Talk page:  He/she removed the warning from the user Talk page with a personal attack in the edit summary  and discussed this warning in two edits on the article Talk page, proving that he/she had seen the warning and was aware of increased concerns about edit warring. Nevertheless, last night Life.temp again gutted the article, ripping out nearly 1,000 words this time: None of these edits were accompanied by anything resembling consensus. It is obvious that Life.temp's goal is to expunge any controversy from the article. I request a block of at least 24 hours for Life.temp. Thank you. Kossack4Truth (talk) 11:02, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Hand salsa
I have nominated Hand salsa, an article you created, for deletion. I do not feel that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Articles for deletion/Hand salsa. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. Do you want to opt out of receiving this notice? Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps) 18:21, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Protection conflicts
Gah... Acalamari 19:16, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry too for being more notable :D Acalamari 19:25, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * You're definitely right about that! Proper link Acalamari 19:30, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Numberjacks
Would it possible for you to keep an eye on this page.? An IP vandal you blocked has returned, but my report went stale as he/she doesn't attack elsewhere regularly. Thanks  Bevo74 (talk) 21:10, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for semi-protecting. Bevo74 (talk) 19:58, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Heavy IP Vandalism???
Ivo Andric article - Before throwing such an accusation - it would be nice to justify it by a sentence or two. Before that - see what are differences between two sides. Looks like Rjecina got a support finally from an admin - in harrassing articles and other users.--71.252.56.110 (talk) 22:58, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * (Replying here because your IP address may change.) Waiting for the checkuser case to end. · AndonicO Engage. 23:47, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Hand salsa
Since you agree that there are no reliable sources for Hand salsa, you could probably db-author it since you're the only one to make any significant contributions to the page. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps) 01:27, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
 * That's an odd position. Why would you want to keep the article if there're no reliable sources? Ten Pound Hammer  and his otters • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps) 01:38, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Transwiki would be a good idea. In any event, it's probably best not to keep it here. Ten Pound Hammer  and his otters • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps) 01:46, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Wicked Bible
Hi. Could I ask you to read and check the article, paying attention to the language? I haven't been speaking in English for a long time. It is rather urgent :) Thanks in advance, Timpul my talk 19:57, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
 * ¿Por qué? Tú hablas español profesionalmente :) Languages like Kashubian or Silesian are useless :P Anyway, thanks a lot. Timpul my talk 20:47, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

My RFB
Thank you for your comments in my RFB. Since it was only at 64%, it was a shoo-in to be unsuccessful, so I withdrew. I didn't want it to run until its scheduled close time because my intent in standing for RFB was to help the bureaucrats with their workload, not give them one more RfX to close. Through the course of my RFB, I received some very valuable feedback, some of it was contradictary, but other points were well agreed upon. I have ceased my admin coaching for now to give me time to revamp my method. I don't want to give up coaching completely, but I'm going to find a different angle from which to approach it. As for my RFA Standards, I am going to do some deep intraspection. I wrote those standards six months ago and I will slowly retool them. This will take some time for me to really dig down and express what I want in an admin candidate. If, after some serious time of deep thought, I don't find anything to change in them, I'll leave them the way they are. I'm not going to change them just because of some community disagreement as to what they should be. Will I stand for RFB again in the future? I don't know. Perhaps some time down the road, when my tenure as an administrator is greater than one year, if there is a pressing need for more active bureaucrats, maybe. If there no pressing need, then maybe not. Useight (talk) 03:07, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Don't worry, between now and then I'll be here, doing things that aren't stupid. Useight (talk) 03:18, 13 June 2008 (UTC

Tim Russet
Its very unwise to close the article off to everyone because of edit warring of for whatever reason. The article needs a lot of work and since he died people will edit it extensively and by blocking the article, it will not receive these new edits. If you are having a problem with an editor please put his account on a block or something but dont shut off the article.

GordonUS (talk) 20:24, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

In two days nobody is really going to be reading the article nor editing it. I don't see why two editors having a disagreement will penalize other editors. We need to take advantage of this current event and allow people to edit. People are going to be reading the article and it needs to be in the best shape.

GordonUS (talk) 20:30, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Howdy! If possible, it'd be super if we could semi-protect the article instead and deal with anything as it happens. I've started a discussion to the effect on the talk page for the article for your consideration. - C HAIRBOY (☎) 20:33, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Oops! Beat me to it, thanks! - C HAIRBOY  (☎) 20:34, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for putting the article back into semi-protection! Question, though: I know that this is unusual, but is there any chance we could get the talk page semi-protected? It looks like we're going to get a lot of anons commenting on his death. — Brother Flounder  20:42, 13 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Thank you!

GordonUS (talk) 20:53, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Josphine A
Sorry, I should have made myself clearer. A little earlier tonight I already reported her but Tan declined and told me to report again if she continued. That's what I meant with 'Tan, she's back.' Channel &reg;   23:49, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Protection of the Humanities desk
Hello, AndonicO. First of all, thank you for trying to keep vandals from assaulting the Humanities desk! 71.100 has become quite annoying again of recently. Still, your protection also raises some questions. The desks are high-frequency pages with a lot of good edits made by unregistered IP addresses, both as querents and as helpful volunteers. One persistent nuisance shouldn't lead to locking out all these good-faith editors. Reverting the posts on sight seems to be the better alternative, even if it looks a bit like disruptive edit-warring at times. Of course the individual 71.100 addresses could be blocked as well (though that won't stop him from logging out and starting over with a new dynamic address). In any event, I think semi-protection should be avoided at the desks. Another user has raised this concern here. Best wishes. ---Sluzzelin talk  05:40, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
 * (Re:Rangeblock)I responded at WT:RD. I remember great reluctance to range-block another, far less malicious, but also annoying refdesk hooligan using a dynamic IP a while back. Please be careful you don't get yourself in trouble. And thanks for responding. ---Sluzzelin talk  09:48, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Header.
Yeah, nice job. It seems that the talk page on Coptic language is easier to discuss now without the threat of any constant reverts on the parts of both sides—thanks for that. However, I have yet another concern. On "Copt", the edit warring has been going on for longer than most (if not all) of the other articles. On its protection log, it says that the article has been protected several times, and once in a while, there would be discussions on those issues. After all of that, there still still seems to be several IP addresses involved. Unfortunately, it might have to be protected again unless there's a way for anyone to mediate new talks over the issue. Keep up the good work, ~ Troy (talk) 01:48, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Non-protection of Otto Erich Deutsch
How then deal with the problem? Enter an edit-war? Wait for somebody to correct it, only shortly before it will be vandalized again (i.e. keep the wrong version for 90% of the time, as practically no one edits there)? What's so wrong with semi-protection? What's semi-protection here for then? How else settle it? WaldiR (talk) 12:56, 14 June 2008 (UTC) Please answer here to keep the discussion together, but notify me of it at my talk page so I hear about it. 12:56, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
 * There have only been thirteen edits this year, and of those, only three were disruptive (and all from the same user). That isn't enough for semi-protection. · AndonicO Engage. 21:42, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Template:Infobox journalist
I can't quite tell whether you protected this template because of its vulnerability in the future, well beyond the death of the Tim Russert (as this would make sense), but if you did not semi-protect it for that reason, I just wanted to point out that the template is already fully-protected, since it's transcluded on User:East718/PTT. --  tariq abjotu  13:03, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

hello
Apparently, you have no idea how to protect pages, next time could you please re-read the instructions carefully, thanks.. Buddha24 (talk) 02:25, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Block: Omnimichael
Hi. User:Iridescent has informed me that I erred in reverting User:Omnimichael for his MySpace links. Further, it appears that my error was the basis of your blocking him. Please accept my apologies that you took action on my incorrect reporting. Please also review the discussion at my talk page and unblock Omnimichael if you see fit to do so. I've asked Iridescent to do so as well. Jclemens (talk) 04:18, 15 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for clearing this up. Omnimichael (talk) 21:09, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

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History of timekeeping devices
When do you think an FAC would be appropriate? (On a related note, perhaps we should do a bit of spamming to ask for Squad members' help. There is work yet to be done...) Keilana | Parlez ici 15:40, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Definitely the 27th at the latest. I'll try to take on Modern devices, it's a bit neglected. Some of the refs are also duplicates, we may want to check on those as well. Keilana | Parlez ici 17:28, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Copt
I think there should be full page protection as "Copt" has a bad history with sock puppets and user accounts which were only created to get around semi-protection. However, I have put a warning on any further edit warring on here, so just protect the page if there are any further reverts that are undiscussed. Thank-you,
 * ~ Troy (talk) 17:18, 16 June 2008 (UTC)


 * On second thought, undiscussed reverting in the near future seems inevitable. There might as well be indefinate full protection until there is a consensus on the talk page. ~ Troy (talk) 17:58, 16 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Alright, great. However, anyone can still edit it anonymously or logged in, so that must mean that it isn't protected—there's only a template. Can you fix that? Thanks, ~ Troy (talk) 19:00, 16 June 2008 (UTC)


 * That's fine. Thanks anyway :) ~ Troy (talk) 19:04, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Srbosjek
I've noticed that you turned this article into read-only mode adding on the very top of this article


 * The factual accuracy of this article is disputed.Please see the relevant discussion on the talk page. (May 2008)
 * This article needs additional citations for verification. Please help improve this article by adding reliable references. Unsourced material may be challenged and removed. (May 2008)

You did not leave any explanation on the talk page what is not accurate in the existing text nor what are additional citations needed.

Please respond on the talk page and put back this article into write mode. I have very good overview of the references supporting the text of existing article edition and I'll be glad to answer your doubts and claims.

--J. A. Comment (talk) 21:54, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * You have been victim of joke but because of that I think he will be blocked. See part about J. A. Comment mistake--Rjecina (talk) 15:25, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Launceston College
I'm suspecting a case of sock puppetry among User:Terra08, User:Astroboy2425, and User:Billy bob rofl. Take a look at these two edits:,. Do you think we should file a checkuser? Gail (talk) 12:31, 17 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I was suspicious that User:Astroboy2425 and User:Billy bob rofl might be related because of their mutual vandalism on each other's user pages (now deleted), including their mention of aiming to get "banned". However, you're right about the checkuser, I hadn't through about that. And thanks for the Huggle remark :) Gail (talk) 12:51, 17 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I'll try not to (burn out). I just happen to have a lot of free time right now. And I'm still nowhere near your Feb '08 count... Gail (talk) 13:12, 17 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I doubt it... but I'll keep it as a target to aim for ;) Gail (talk) 13:41, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

In an attempt to clear up the "sockpuppetry", which is probably in vain:    I do not attend Launceston College as a student anymore, and as such IPs between me, and the other two users, will be different, as I am Wiki'ing from home. I am however, associated with several staff members of the college, and performing this maintenance on their behalf as to not bring the college reputation down. However, User:Astroboy2425 IS a student from LC, but even still, I suppose it would be a bit hard to prove whether i AM or am NOT a sockpuppet.

Cheers

Billy bob rofl (talk) 13:04, 17 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Billy bob rofl: Don't worry, I'll take your word for it for the time being. Gail (talk) 13:12, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome, a quick question
Hi AndonicO. Thanks for the welcome to WikiPedia :D I was wondering about if it was possible to require a post to be approved before it going live to Wikipedia, or a way a nominated user can 'admin' the Launceston College page, as some of the comments that were made were direct attacks with the desire to harm the reputation of our college. I am requesting this on behalf of the ICT staff at Launceston College and was wondering if it were possible, and how to get them to go about it.

Thanks :D

Billy bob rofl (talk) 12:36, 17 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks For the response! It is possible to nominate a user to 'admin'/'moderate' the page though is it not? I am only going along with what i've heard, reading up administrating documents etc. as the staff of the college are quite upset with the comments that were allowed to stay on the Wikipedia article for almost 24hours.

(sorry bout moving it to the top, thought that was they way to go, guess not :) )


 * Cheers
 * Billy bob rofl (talk) 13:11, 17 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks For Clarifying :D Billy bob rofl (talk) 13:32, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks and keep on playing AOE III...
Hey, thanks for protecting Jan Koller's article. I don't know what's the problem with all these people, I juts revamped the article a little and vandalism rose up highly. Then again, thanks and I sincerely admire your loyalty to AOE III. Hope we engage in a game sometime. Mannschaftskapitän (talk) 19:52, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

History of cannon
I've left a reply on User talk:EyeSerene. Don't worry, I wasn't planning any immediate action, just asking him to take a look and see what he thought of the situation. Regards--Jackyd101 (talk) 18:59, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Temazepam
Hello, it seems that an anonymous user is deleting a lot of work from the temazepam article. His justification is the scientific references are not accurate. I would like to request that temazepam be put under protection for a minimum of 10 days, please. I have put in a lot of work, effort and research into it. I don't want to argue or discuss anything with this anonymous user. His interpretation of the data and research is completely subjective. TheGoodSon 3:57, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Declined, I suggest you discuss on the talk page, his concerns are not vandalism. · AndonicO Engage. 09:36, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Hello, this is the anon user. I have proofread large parts of the article against references and corrected the citations where appropriate. A good deal of erroneous citations (ref doesn't say what the article says, ref is about something else or plain misrepresented) have been corrected. My edits have now been reverted 3 times without discussion, then called vandalism, then 3rr raised. Please intervene. I have given reasons for every edit and change in detail and don't want to have them all sweeped under the table in one single huge revert without any discussion. 70.137.159.55 (talk) 18:26, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

In the result they have reverted me 3 times, then raised 3rr, accused me of vandalism and blocked me. So the result of my edits of several weeks has been reverted without any consideration to any of the reasons I gave and without discussion. They didn't follow your guidance, didn't discuss, and I am now blocked. They have reverted to the previous state, before my dozens of edits. I believe this is not how WP is supposed to work. They behave like the owners of the article. Any criticism and constructive changes are smothered. Please take a look what happened. They found a sympathetic admin. 70.137.137.130 (talk) 19:30, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

My dozens of edits are now reverted as a block, and the page protected. My work of several weeks is lost. I do not intend to do this a second time without discussion of my reverted edits, for each of which I have given a reason. The page is essentially reset to its state 4 weeks ago. 70.137.137.130 (talk) 22:39, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

You didn't revert to the "version before edit war", but to the version, where all my edits are lost i.e after they have reverted all my many edits w.o. discussion 70.137.137.130 (talk) 22:47, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Please see talk:temazepam, "edit summary anon" 70.137.137.130 (talk) 02:16, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Vandalism on my userpage
Thank you for reverting it. =)  hmwith τ   22:26, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Appeal
Hello, I accept that I broke the 3rr and apologise for doing that. However, you wrote an additional warning "Please note that any future reverting of the anonymous editor will lead straight to a block, on any of the articles you have been arguing over." The problem is that I am the only editor who is actively involved in the nitrazepam article for example. As you are now aware this anon user is paid by the drug companies to edit benzo articles. As I am the only editor that edits or keeps an eye on the nitrazepam article, you have basically said that Roche pharma can edit until their hearts content and I cannot touch their edits. You have said the same to thegoodson. You have given us effectively a life time ban and only a 24 hour block to the drug company employee (who just reconnected to the internet and got a new IP as they are on a dynamic ip and evaded the block). I would much rather that your warning was changed to "if you break the 3rr again you will be blocked for 1 week or even 1 month", but to hand over the articles to Roche Pharmaceuticals (by saying I have to accept all of their edits as I can't undo them) I think is harmful to wikipedia and unfair to myself and thegoodson who have no financial interest in the articles.-- Literature geek |  T@1k?  11:04, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

I believe that I have learnt my lesson on the 3rr and have no problem with a warning that if I break the rule again receiving a prolonged block but what you have given me is almost as bad as a life time ban for reverting drug company edits and breaking the 3rr. I thought that because it was biased edits it constituted vandalism and because it was vandalism that the 3rr would not apply. I was wrong and I apologise. You weren't aware that we were dealing with an anon from Roche pharmaceuticals making profits from their edits when you gave me a life time ban on editing anything this roche anon writes. With this additional information please reconsider my life time ban on editing anything roche anon 70.137 writes and just block me instead if in the future I break the 3rr again or something. That would be more acceptable.-- Literature geek |  T@1k?  11:14, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

You didn't specify a time limit of how long the anon can edit unchallenged by myself. I am assuming that it is a life time ban?-- Literature geek |  T@1k?  11:23, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Why did you delete the list of edits, result of proofreading, as "not relevant of helpful". Why do you allow personal attacks, claiming I would work for a drug company? 70.137.137.130 (talk) 12:05, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

I request the following edit: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Temazepam&diff=prev&oldid=220179239 If you look at it, I deleted a reference, which was about 3 drugs including temazepam. If you indeed follow the link to the reference, it is not about temazepam, but another drug. The title of the reference is also not including temazepam. This is what I call a forgery, the reference is misrepresented, the title changed. 70.137.137.130 (talk) 16:18, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

What is to be agreed: ref cited as effects of temazepam, but is about other drugs and doesn't mention temazepam. Title of the ref changed in the article but pointing to something else? there is no discussion going on since weeks, they just don't respond, but wait some time and then revert w.o. discussion? They are stonewalling me. Instead of discussions they come with silliness like conflict of interest. This is vandalism on their side. They have accused me of vandalism now enough, so I may use this word myself. This is a scandal. Where can I complain? 70.137.137.130 (talk) 17:05, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for removing the uncivilized thread over on the Age of Empires talk page. I was just about to do the same. JGerretse (talk) 19:46, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Yes, you are right. It was uncivil. I just get tired of seeing so much effort going into these articles by people who clearly have the time and intelligence to contribute in (POV) a constructive manner.Cillmore (talk) 20:00, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Question
I'm still a bit shocked after reviewing the temazepam history. Do you think removal of LG's Twinkle privileges is in order? I'm afraid the definition of vandalism still hasn't gotten through here. Fvasconcellos (t·c) 20:11, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

I am reporting edit vandalism on user Van Helsing for deleting discussion edits on United States discussions
I have forwarded a user warning notice to user Van Helsing for deleting discussions talk consenus on the United States discussions page [. If just undid the content when this was originally posted before and was deleted and I have saved the discussion, so please either block user Van Helsing or a warning notice not delete discussions information on the United States discussions page please.--[[Special:Contributions/66.17.49.165|66.17.49.165]] (talk) 23:13, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * WP:ANI. --Van helsing (talk) 11:12, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you
Thank you for participating in my RfA, which passed with a final count of 42 supporting, 2 opposing and 2 neutral. I would like to thank Keeper76 especially for the great nomination. I look forward to assist the project and its community as an administrator. Thanks again, Cena <font color="#1560bd">rium <font color="#000090"> Talk 00:25, 20 June 2008 (UTC)