User talk:Andrea1861

Your submission at Articles for creation: Robilant+Voena (March 20)
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DoubleGrazing (talk) 17:23, 20 March 2022 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Robilant+Voena (April 16)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by Hoary were:

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Hoary (talk) 12:28, 16 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Dear Hoary, thank you for your review. I would like to concentrate my submissions on a segment that I am really keen recently, the commercial art galleries a segment sometimes overlooked but great promoter of arts and culture, I think suitable for an encyclopedia as Wiki.
 * What kind of criteria would you apply for notability regarding the commercial art galleries as the one I tried to publish, if you look at the overall sector, is considered quite important for its cultural programme especially with the old masters? Did you have the chance see the website?
 * Regarding the neutral point of view I put references of articles from the Financial Times, New York Times, Korea Herald, La Repubblica these should be good independent international newspapers, correct? Can I also put older references not in the online era yet with date and article name and page?
 * I understood better the importance of the wording and the more impartial style I should apply to the articles, it make sense, thanks. Should I cancel all the references taken from the gallery website? What are suggestion do you have for me regarding this article?
 * Thank you in advance.
 * Best,
 * Andrea Andrea1861 (talk) 16:24, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Andrea Andrea1861 (talk) 16:24, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Robilant+Voena (May 9)
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Cabrils (talk) 23:06, 9 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Dear Cabrils, thank you for your review. I was rather surprised when I discovered that my submission has not been accepted. This is not the first time that I try to publish "Robilant+Voena", so I decided to strictly follow the general structure of an existing voice: Tornabuoni Art (which is another commercial art gallery); I adopted the general structure, syntax and type of information of Tornabuoni Art (but I added more references and more information - without using a single subjective adjective). For what concerns your feedback, I would like to point out that it is almost impossible to find an article/publication entirely dedicated to a single commercial art gallery by an external source of information but Robilant+Voena as you can see from the first reference is considered as among the 50 more notable galleries in the UK, moreover from what I understood, references should provide users with the guarantee that the information transcribed are correct and each references I have used derives from a reliable source of information and testify I am telling the truth.
 * I Kindly ask you to compare "Robilant+Voena" to "Tornabuoni Art" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tornabuoni_Art) and let me know why I have not been accepted.
 * Thank you in advance. 85.32.208.85 (talk) 11:48, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

Managing a conflict of interest
Hello, Andrea1861. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on the page Robilant+Voena, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:


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In addition, you are required by the Wikimedia Foundation's terms of use to disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation. See Paid-contribution disclosure.

Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. Justanothersgwikieditor (talk) 10:31, 12 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the information. I have no links, I am only interested in publishing pages on commercial galleries that I think are undervalued for their cultural contribution. Thanks Andrea1861 (talk) 10:58, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi, thank you for your response! Justanothersgwikieditor (talk) 02:46, 13 August 2022 (UTC)

Nomination of Robilant+Voena for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Robilant+Voena is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Robilant+Voena until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished. DoubleGrazing (talk) 10:46, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi Andrea, some advice. Keep your comments and replies on the adf as short and to the point as possible. Be wary of responding to editors voting delete unless on firm ground; most will be pertubed, view your challenge as hounding, and (speaking from experience) will in fact become more reinforced in their view. While I agree that the article should be kept, at times the salient points you make are buried in walls of text. If you do need to go into detail, use paragraphs. Be more friendly and conversational, everybody there has good intentions and are actual people. Try and cite policy as much as possible, though I know some of it requires phd levels of expertise to utilize :) Anyways, regardless of outcome, you did your best and imo the article now establishes notability, but wiki is a strange (and stressful!!!) place. Ceoil (talk) 23:40, 13 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Also, can create a userpage at a minimum saying "Hello world" (the red-linked username in your sig is off-putting), but ideally also stating your relationship with Robilant+Voena; regardless of weather you are a employee, family member of a founder, or just an interested old master connoisseur (of course without giving away who you are actually are). The policy here is WP:Single-purpose account, and its often fine to be one, ifopen and above board about what they are doing and why — if you are cagey, it'll be used against you. Anyway, no stress!!!! Ceoil (talk) 23:50, 13 August 2022 (UTC)