User talk:Andreasegde/Archive 25

MJ
Hi there, you voted to support the MJ article going to FA. The article is doing very well, 6 support 2 oppose. However i, and i believe you also, would like to get those who oppose on side. They are requesting additional copy editing which i have started doing. If you could improve the article in any way in this issue, please, please do. Realist 2 ( 'Come Speak To Me' ) 22:18, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Boo, but ok. enJOY, and come back soon. Tvoz | talk 05:53, 23 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I thank you dearest, as always. I do pop in every day, but my version of a break is not to indulge my masochism by getting involved in lengthy discussions about the meaning of life, and the Wikipedia meaning of it, to boot. I have been heartened to see the co-operation between the eternally positive Kodster and the studiously determined Realist2, and I see another editor from a different project wants to take George Martin to FA. This is all good stuff, and I am enjoying sitting back and watching it all. It's a bit like watching people playing handball on the beach, with myself in a deckchair with small drink (plus tiny wooden umbrella in my glass) and saying "Ahhh... this is nice". :)--andreasegde (talk) 10:13, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Laughing Baby
LOL, I don't even have a son. I wish that was my baby though. No, I just created the page because I thought it was important enough, being in an AIG commercial and winning the Youtube award, to have its own Wikipedia page. Bad judgement on my part. When I saw "Laughing Baby" on my talk page, I thought it was some admin going to block me for making the page! LOL, thanks for stopping by. Cheers,  Kodster  (You talkin' to me?) (Stuff I messed up) 20:20, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Andreasegde
Isn't someone supposed to be on break? ;) Just kidding. Cheers,  Kodster  (You talkin' to me?) (Stuff I messed up) 20:27, 2 May 2008 (UTC)


 * As we say in t'north of England - you are not wrong, me old mucker...--andreasegde (talk) 21:04, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Make these "pop ins" more regular, ;) Realist 2  ( 'Come Speak To Me' ) 21:14, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

I only come here to see what you two are up to... :)--andreasegde (talk) 12:08, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh us two, just causing the usual mischief. Lol. Realist 2  ( 'Come Speak To Me' ) 13:52, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

FPC I'd Like Help With
I was just wondering if you wouldn't mind going to Portal:James Bond. I'd really appreciate any criticisms or support that you could provide for this Featured portal candidate. Thanks. Ultra! 14:55, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Lennon
Sir: The intent on the John Lennon page was not vandalism, but to add a "citation needed" to a couple details on the page that I didnt think were accurately provided for by the existing citation. It kept reformatting the page wrong though when I tried to insert the "citation needed" link. Sorry, i will not attempt to edit it again. Also, sorry if this is not the proper way to contact you. -EO —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.180.196.202 (talk) 15:28, 5 May 2008 (UTC)


 * You don't have to use titles when addressing Andreasegde, only the mighty Crestville. :) Cheers,  Kodster  (You talkin' to me?) (Stuff I messed up) 22:09, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Anyway, why'd you leave this edit summary on John Lennon:

"Deranged fan? This is bollocks"

? Mark David Chapman was a deranged fan. BTW, glad to see that you won't let this article go to waste. I think it deserves a PR before going to FA, but I've got a lot on my hands. (Like a Rolling Stone and List of best-selling albums worldwide) Cheers,  Kodster  (You talkin' to me?) (Stuff I messed up) 22:09, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

My answer:
 * 1) To 128.180.196.202: The citations were already there, and if the citations were not good enough, then find some more and put them in.
 * 2) To Kodster: Chapman was NOT a deranged fan of Lennon. He was a fan of other artists.--andreasegde (talk) 00:55, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free media (Image:George and Giles Martin.jpg)
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It wasn't orphaned at all.--andreasegde (talk) 11:16, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Death of John Lennon
According to Wikipedia's Manual of Style, "Links...should not be used in section titles; instead, link the first occurrence of the phrase in the body of the text." :) Sure I'll help you with Death of John Lennon, I'm assuming it's already been Peer reviewed. Cheers,  Kodster  (You talkin' to me?) (Stuff I messed up) 19:40, 6 May 2008 (UTC)


 * I have to go for a bit. See you then. Cheers,  Kodster  (You talkin' to me?) (Stuff I messed up) 20:28, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Why of course, although if you check my "To do" list you will see im very busy starting my pop career. Lol, sure ill help. Realist 2 ( 'Come Speak To Me' ) 19:47, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Death of John Lennon
I've done a substantial amount on the review of Death of John Lennon. See the Talk:Death of John Lennon for details. Cheers,  Kodster  (You talkin' to me?) (Stuff I messed up) 23:45, 7 May 2008 (UTC)


 * I did a little copyedit of the article, basically fixing the wording and the flow. If anything's wrong, don't hesitate to call. After reading it over, this should pass GA soon (then again, I've only reviewed one GA before, and I can't even remember what it is). Cheers,  Kodster  (You talkin' to me?) (Stuff I messed up) 20:15, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Kodster please, you reviewed Thriller and Thriller 25, doing a great job. I agree its GA worthy, that picture makes me sad tho. ;-( Realist 2  ( 'Come Speak To Me' ) 20:18, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Which picture?--andreasegde (talk) 20:19, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Lennon standing next to his butchering murderer. Very depressing. I might add that potentially the "Memorials and tributes" section is over wikilinked? Realist 2  ( 'Come Speak To Me' ) 20:22, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

It's even more depressing for me, because he was killed on my birthday (8th of December - even though it was the the 9th of December in England due to the time difference). I got up after hearing the news, and went down to my living room - after a small party the night before - and the LP (remember them?) that was still on the record player was the Imagine album, which was the last album I had played before I went to bed the night before. I cried a lot that day, even though I was working. :(--andreasegde (talk) 20:32, 8 May 2008 (UTC)


 * I remember that day. I was eleven years old, and the Beatles were my life. I had all the albums (not anymore, unfortunately, but I'm collecting), everything about them I had. It was just another day for me. I woke up, got out of bed, dragged a comb across my head. :) When I heard the news, I was devastated. I went into my room and cried the whole time, and no one in the house even opened the door. I got all my albums and listened to just about every one that day. It came to me that, like the Beatles, everything good thing must come to an end. Why Lennon's end had to be so tragic, I'll never understand. Cheers,  Kodster  (You talkin' to me?) (Stuff I messed up) 22:29, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

I also have to say that I went to New York in February 1983 (with a band I was with) and I stood outside the Dakota building for a short while and thought about it. It was a strange experience...--andreasegde (talk) 20:35, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Sad, ;-(, i watched this great documentary on him, since then ive built up a lot of respect for the guy. Realist 2  ( 'Come Speak To Me' ) 21:10, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Well, Old Friend
I've been here for two months and ten days, and it's time. Look at this. Yes, it is extremely short-term, but still...it's six days without Wikipedia. If I still have stuff to settle by then, then I'll have to make it longer. Feel free to leave me messages, but I won't be able to help you with any articles. :( OK, that's all. Cheers,  Kodster  (You talkin' to me?) (Stuff I messed up) 23:15, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Kod accidently put this message above on your user page, ive done it myself, its because they look identical it gets confusing lol. Realist 2 ( 'Come Speak To Me' ) 23:29, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

GA Pass!!!
Death of Lennon passed, well done!!! Realist 2 ( 'Come Speak To Me' ) 16:28, 9 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Kodster did a lot of work on it after the review, so he should also get a lot of credit. Thanks, anyway. :)--andreasegde (talk) 16:32, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, hes a good guy, he'd make a great admin in 6 months. Realist 2  ( 'Come Speak To Me' ) 16:34, 9 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks, Realist2. (Couldn't help stopping by). Too bad I missed the GA passing, I have a tendency to miss these things. (Like with A Day in the Life, when I had computer problems). Oh well. About the admin thing, I don't know if I can take that. It sounds more of a degrading job (no offense to admins) to me. Block this user, block that user. There's too many things to do, and it takes away editing time. Oh well, congrats on the GA! Cheers,  Kodster  (You talkin' to me?) (Stuff I messed up) 00:54, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

You both would, in my opinion.--andreasegde (talk) 16:48, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, but i still have a murky history, people dont forgive and forget easily at wikipedia unfortunately. Would you ever consider it or are you an article builder only? Realist 2 ( 'Come Speak To Me' ) 16:51, 9 May 2008 (UTC)


 * No, Admins are slaves to stopping vandals. It's a sh*t job, but they do it.--andreasegde (talk) 17:09, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, i wouldnt want to be one if it stopped me writting articles. But i sure would like to block some of those vandals at the michael jackson article lol. Realist 2  ( 'Come Speak To Me' ) 17:15, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Mimi's house was not really near Poole Quay. Poole Quay is in the middle of the harbour (Poole Harbour is the world's second largest natural harbour). Mimi's house was on Sandbanks - at the mouth of the harbour (and on the world's 4th most expensive real estate!!!). However - Mimi's house has been torn down - I can see that when I look at Google Earth!! Hope that helps Lynnev (talk) 19:59, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Paul McCartney
Wow, you just left a very unfriendly note on my talkpage. It was so absurdly confrontational, in fact, that I am inclined to take it as irony. Yet you revert. Hmmm. And, you seem to claim that this edit of mine was inappropriate. I beg to differ. There is plenty of text on the Heather Mills divorce case here, and now we get the play-by-play of a 30-second hearing in which nothing really happened. Do you have any idea how many hearings there are in a contested divorce case? There is no way we need details of all of them. As for the bit about Everton, I'm not going to edit war over it, but do you really believe it to be the case that his support for Everton is really as significant as the rest of the "Lifestyle" section? Yes it had a reference, but having a reference does not satisfy notability. maxsch (talk) 03:07, 13 May 2008 (UTC)


 * You're not English are you? For anybody in the UK, which team you support is almost a religous faith. If you ever get the chance to vist Liverpool or Manchester (or anywhere really) I suggest you stand in the middle of pub on a Saturday night and say that football is not notable...


 * As for your complaints about what I said; I think that they were not insulting enough, because you deleted a referenced sentence. That is tantmount to vandalism, or blind stupidity in Wikipedia. What makes you think references are not notable enough, and that they can be deleted? The arrogance of it...


 * The judge's ruling vindicated McCartney from Mills' lies about him cutting her with a wine glass and letting her crawl to the bathroom. If Mills' was proven to be a liar, I think that is notable enough. Would you think it was not notable if someone said that about you? I think you would..--andreasegde (talk) 12:27, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Hi. Help me also against the disruptive editing of 90% of my daily edits here in Wikipedia by this user:"Which planet? Shame on you? These words are not enough to put off the disruptive and bad faith editing of this user maxsch. This user had continuously edited by deleting most of my scholarly added edits. Something must be done to this user. What do editors think? Examine please his contributions: Almost 90% of my edits are reverted or deleted by him. And I filed a petition to ban him but my adopting parent ceased to be an adopter. So Please watch all his edits. Let us join force against his bad faith editing. My 3 mystic dwarfs appeared to me and told me to pray Psalm 109 so that this user will be good and not bad. Please, I beg of you andreasegde Let us complain to the admins to ban this user. --Florentino floro (talk) 12:40, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I didn't remove any content that talked about accusations of lying or crawling around on a bathroom floor. I removed the description of a 30-second hearing that neither party attended and at which no issues of any substance were raised. The description of a formality--not interesting, not necessary. And again, I didn't say that there are no rabid football fans in the UK. I agree it is like a faith to some. Maybe Sir Paul is one of them. But my sense is that he would not attack someone in a pub for saying football isn't that important. If I found a reference that said he was fond of tea, or had a small collection of oddly shaped foreign currency, would you think that belonged at the top of the section about his lifestyle? I was actually trying to keep the article clean and in good shape. I thought that was a goal you shared. maxsch (talk) 16:37, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Where else would you put it, I ask? In Recreational drug use, Meditation, or Activism? Maybe we could make a new header like, "Things McCartney does on a Saturday afternoon when he's not writing songs". If his choice of football is not important, then we can take out all the stuff about his mother dying of breast cancer, where The Quarrymen rehearsed, about him going to nightclubs in The Beatles' section, Jane Asher (maybe one single sentence, huh?) calling himself "Apollo C. Vermouth" to produce a hit record, the "You're all pizza and fairytales!" comment by Lennon, "McCartney and Lennon had seriously considered going to the studio, but were too tired", "This led to a disagreement with Denny Laine, who wanted to continue touring", "George was like his 'baby brother'".

Where do you want to stop? Maybe you can delete enough so that it looks like a train timetable. Would that satisfy you? I despair... --andreasegde (talk) 09:19, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

The problem is this: If people put down their scissors, and actually worked on creating articles and actually adding text to them, they wouldn't be so keen to start snipping things out. It's probably because the cutters are bored stiff, and feel the need to do what they do. They sit in their editor's chairs and proclaim that they are only here to clean articles. The fact that they are not interested in the subject, don't know an awful lot about it, and can only view it through a pair of binoculars makes for comments like these. I have created, and/or helped with 31 GA articles about The Beatles, and a few other random articles. How many have you done, and taken to GA? Put the scissors away, buy a book, and start writing. This is what Wikipedia needs.--andreasegde (talk) 09:28, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Paul McCartney
Excuse me. I took a question I had about content on the Paul McCartney page, and I put it on the talkpage. There is nothing wrong with that kind of behaviour. No one is questioning the importance of football in British society. I am only questioning its importance in Paul's life/lifestyle. If the consensus opinion is that it is an important part of his life, I will not protest. But don't question my right to ask the question. maxsch (talk) 17:33, 14 May 2008 (UTC)


 * I have every right to question your edits, but research the subject first before you declare that something is not important. I would never edit an article before I knew something about it.


 * Anyway, after this little problem, we could probably become good friends (seriously) because we now have an attitude of respect for each other. It happens all the time in Wikipedia. BTW, I wish you the best. :)--andreasegde (talk) 20:04, 14 May 2008 (UTC)


 * You've got a funny way of making friends, but so be it. I don't hold a grudge. And I think you are a good editor, don't take this the wrong way. One of my pet peeves about wikipedia is all the crap clutter that people put in articles because they have a personal interest in some little trivial factoid, and maybe it made the news one slow political day. And most of it ends up just staying there because nobody ever bothers to take it out. I'm one of those people who bothers, and maybe that's just a difference in our editing styles. best. maxsch (talk) 20:47, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Write an article, and then take it through a GA review. It's an experience you will never forget.--andreasegde (talk) 07:45, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Interesting
He changed his name from Vikrant Phadkay to Ultraviolet scissor flame, he has been blocked twice as a vandal for being a page blanker [Phadkay]. He also failed spectacularly when he tried to be a Wikipedia Admin Requests for adminship/Vikrant Phadkay. He is also a master sock puppeteer, Paerduug, and then when he realised he had given himself away, he tried to cover it up  81.130.223.198 (talk) 13:45, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Personal attack
This comment you made to Ultraviolet is not exactly kind. Even if you were right, this is not the way to express it. His edits to the Pokémon albums were very bold, and I do not agree with them, but it's not forbidden. Do you have any proof that he is being disruptive, or has given awards to himself? At least one is real anyway. Cheers, Face 21:09, 20 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Read the Paul McCartney talk page. If you look at Mr Flame's front page, you will see that he has given many awards to himself. If you gave him the one you linked, you are biased.--andreasegde (talk) 12:26, 21 May 2008 (UTC)