User talk:AndrewN/Archives/2012/May

User Danny
Hey, I am only commenting because the user is using aspbergrs as a excuse i have aspberger it does nto cause you to be the way there describing, it makes people who like me have it seem like a different type of person, add to that i truly want to help them-- Andrewcrawford ( talk  -  contrib ) 21:22, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Bwilkins has blocked you for 12 hours for personal attacks.  AndrewN  talk 21:23, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks.
OK, thanks for the response on the Abuse report. Thanks for replying. Next time in the future, I will check the whole websites trying to find the email addresses. -- Damirgraffiti &#124; ☺Say Yo to Me!☺   00:53, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

Islam
Brother Andrew good day! You are not a muslim, why you're editing page on Islam?

will be glad to hear from you soon!

Majilis — Preceding unsigned comment added by Majilis (talk • contribs) 02:50, 23 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Greetings Majilis, may peace be with you! Thank you for contacting me in regards to my reversion of your content addition on Islam.  You are correct in assuming that I am not a Muslim, however, please understand that I have the utmost respect for any person's religious belief, be it Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Buddhism, or which ever religion a person decides to follow, regardless of my personal beliefs.  With this being said, I hope you will understand that I meant no harm or offense in reverting your edit.


 * In using one of many anti-vandalism tools, Huggle, I came across your edit. The addition of the HTML comment in your edit (the &lt;!-- comment --&gt;) in regards to photography of humans being against Islamic practice was against standards.  Adding comments like this isn't truly a standard of practice here on Wikipedia.  While your statement seems accurate (from my rather limited knowledge of Islam), it's not the kind of thing that would be placed in a comment like that, and as such, I reverted the edit as unconstructive.


 * I strongly encourage you to discuss the removal of that image on the article's talk page. However, please do not remove or comment out images as you did.  I think it would be a fairly reasonable assumption that if your statement is true, it may have already been discussed.  An edit like this could be considered controversial, and as such, it should be discussed with the community on the article's talk page.


 * It appears you have only joined Wikipedia within the last 2-3 weeks, so I understand you not having known about this. If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask.  I hope you will become a productive member of the Wikipedia community!  As you can see, I have posted a welcome message with tons of different resources on your talk page.  I hope this will serve useful to you as you become an active part of the community.  Once again, if you have any questions, please do not hesitate to ask!  Have a wonderful day.   AndrewN  talk 04:19, 23 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Unfortunately, it appears an administrator has already blocked you for 24 hours for disruptive edits. I hope this will help you understand why that block was put in place.  Again, if you have any questions, feel free to ask.   AndrewN  talk 04:25, 23 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Great thank you for the reminder, i've putted a post on the discussion page — Preceding unsigned comment added by Majilis (talk • contribs) Time Unknown

review Diane Barber
Hi AndrewN

You recently reviewed my page that I created about "Diane Barber", and it was not accepted to be published. I couldn't find specific reason why that is but may have missed it. I would appreciate if you could help me in this matter. Thanks!

Best

Schoenic — Preceding unsigned comment added by Schoenic (talk • contribs) 05:19, 24 May 2012 (UTC)


 * I will get back to you sometime tomorrow. It's very late, and I'm cross eyed from dealing with >150 submissions today.   AndrewN  talk 07:00, 24 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Article: Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Diane barber


 * After taking a look over the article, I notice a couple concerns: 1) The article is not written from a neutral point of view.  Remember, you are writing an encyclopedic article, not a biography for a magazine or a promotional publication.  2) You don't have verifiable, 3rd party sources.  From what I can tell, Dr. Barber was at least a contributing author on each source.  Take a look at this page for information on verifiable sources.  3) The article does not assert why this person is notable of an article.  Make it clear in the article why this person is notable for inclusion in an encyclopedia.  Personally, I feel her notability is borderline at best, but I'm willing to give you a chance to convince me otherwise.  4) Watch your formatting.  Take a look at other articles about well known academics/scientists/cell biologists/what ever else she is, and try to format the article similar to one of those.  5) Don't use external links in-line/in the body of the article.  This can be considered spam.  Good start, and I look forward to seeing the finished product.   AndrewN  talk 18:27, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Question about article for submission
How do you add a page. I attempted to add Dead Nedry who is a heavy metal musician who has released a lot of music and worked with members of some bigger named band. He has a band Akem Manah which has garnered a large amount of reviews and airplay. Can his page be added is some form or another? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Dead_Nedry Thanks, Jason — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.38.36.166 (talk) 06:12, 24 May 2012 (UTC)


 * I will get back to you sometime tomorrow. It's very late, and I'm cross eyed from dealing with >150 submissions today.   AndrewN  talk 07:00, 24 May 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure that Dead Nedry is notable for inclusion in Wikipedia. Generally, being a member of a notable band is grounds enough, but the only act you have him associated with is Akem Manah, which has borderline notability at best.  I see you have listed a couple of other bands in the discography, but there's no explination of his role in those in the article.  Expand the article, and really show why Dead Nedry should be included in an encyclopedia.    AndrewN  talk 18:37, 24 May 2012 (UTC)


 * I guess we can wait until something bigger rolls along to add him. Thanks, anyways. - Jason


 * That's probably the best option with this article. Let me know if I can help you again.   AndrewN  talk 00:23, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Thoroughly Screwed up
Hey I have been trying to get my first Wiki page published at the following link- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Keshav_Bangur

I was told the tone wasn't neutral. My bad. I corrected it.

Now questions are being asked on the subject's notability. No polo player in the world could put down the Calcutta Polo Club- from where the game of polo started. Its president (who's page it is supposed to be) is most respected and the links I have given as references are from top class journalistic publications of the country. The press reports says it all and they are evidence enough for subject's notability I suppose. We're talking about person who runs the world's oldest polo club and he runs the legendary Ezra Cup. I have not written a single word from my own, it's all there in the links.

Andrews, please guide me how on the face of earth this page be created.

Thanks for listening. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gagan2712 (talk • contribs) 06:59, 24 May 2012 (UTC)


 * I will get back to you sometime tomorrow. It's very late, and I'm cross eyed from dealing with >150 submissions today.   AndrewN  talk 07:00, 24 May 2012 (UTC)


 * I see a couple issues with this article. 1) This article does not appear to be written in the style of an encyclopedic article.  It appears to be written like an essay, or a story if you will, of the clubs history.  Take a look at some of the featured articles around the site (just have a look at the main page for some links) to see the tone they're written in.  2) I'm not sure if the club meets the notability requirements for inclusion in Wikipedia.  Let me know if you have any more questions.   AndrewN  talk 00:29, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

A Barnstar for you

 * Thank you Ryan! Much appreciated! I've added the ribbon to my user page!  AndrewN  talk 09:50, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Mbbs in china
Hello my friend. I'm not sure I would have described it as such: "...This submission seems to be a test edit and not an article worthy of an encyclopedia. Please use the sandbox for any tests in the future. Thank you..." Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 08:11, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
 * As you know, there is a significant backlog, and I may have mistagged the article. I will re-review it tomorrow and be in touch with the article's author.   AndrewN  talk 08:13, 24 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Don't worry about it, my friend. Just letting you know. Keep up the good work. You are working hard exactly where the work needs doing, and you're doing it fast. That's pretty good stuff. Best wishes, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 08:20, 24 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks. It's been a long night.  Over 150 pages cleared today.  Best wishes!   AndrewN  talk 08:22, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Username
I went. but i dont know how to change. can u help more? — Preceding unsigned comment added by AshikSaha (talk • contribs) 08:56, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
 * on this at your talk page.  AndrewN  talk 08:57, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
 * First, type the user name you want into the box on Special:ListUsers. If it doesn't appear, go to Changing username/Simple and follow the instructions there.  If it does appear, go to Changing username/Usurpations and make your request there (assuming the user hadn't made any edits).  If you have more requests, I suggest that you leave a note on User talk:MBisanz.  Ryan Vesey  Review me!  09:00, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Ryan: I'm already helping them with this at their talk page. :P  AndrewN  talk 09:01, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Answer
1. Ashik Sahadath. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ashik_Sahadath.) 2. want to get semi protection. but i should be register username (Ashik Sahadath) and Ashik Sahadath is my real name.

thank you for helping AshikSaha (talk) 09:19, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Did u mean cannot get that username for me? — Preceding unsigned comment added by AshikSaha (talk • contribs) 09:40, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Thank you
thank you for helped me AshikSaha (talk) 09:50, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Anytime!  AndrewN  talk 09:50, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Credant Technologies
Hi Andrew,

I'm writing in regards to the article titled Credant Techonologies: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Credant http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Credant_Technologies (Corrected link)

We modeled the content on this page after exiting business pages, this is the example I followed: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperva

I don't understand what I'm doing wrong with the page I'd like to create for Credant. Can you please tell me what I can do to get the page approved?

I'd really appreciate your help.

Kelly — Preceding unsigned comment added by Credant (talk • contribs) 14:39, 24 May 2012 (UTC)


 * This article, in my opinion, is advertising, and contains very little encyclopedic content. I also do not see any notability claims.  The article you modeled after has been tagged (and unedited) since January as Sounding like an Advertisement and Containing a large amount of buzz words, and is far from a good example to model your article after.  I have since tagged it for deletion, as it is considered spam.  Look for established articles, about larger companies (i.e. Microsoft, Apple, Sony, Ford, etc.) to use as models/examples for your page. <strong style="color:#990000;">  AndrewN  talk 01:07, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Articles for creation/Wretched
Title: Articles for creation/Wretched Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Wretched Reason: Although there are other bands with this name, the one I submitted is not listed. Disambiguation page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wretched) lists 3 bands with the name "Wretched" - doom, punk and metal band. Wretched article I created is a band started in 2005, others were active in the 90's and earlier. None of the other bands is active anymore. Please consider my article for Wikipedia, and thank you so much for all the work you do. Johnny sixty5 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnny sixty5 (talk • contribs) 15:21, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Ah. I didn't look very closely, so I apologize.  Can you tell me what it is, exactly, that makes this band notable for inclusion in Wikipedia?  Right now, the article doesn't have anything that comes out and screams at a reviewer "HEY! THIS BAND NEEDS TO BE IN THE ENCYCLOPEDIA! RAWR!!!!!"  If I would have looked further, the article would have still been declined as a non-notable subject. <strong style="color:#990000;">  AndrewN  talk 01:15, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Regarding barnstar
Hello. Thanks for the barnstar. As I said when I received my previous one (I also wish to tell you), '' Actually, I have an account but do not use it. I do not consider myself a very active Wikipedian anymore, at least compared to my previous activity level. I've been involved since 2008. Sometimes, being intermittently active could be perceived as being disruptive, at least according to some Wikipedians. I met at least one other IP editor who in fact had an account before, had 50,000 edits, and at least a few created articles which were DYK nominations. He essentially considered himself (semi-)retired.'' Thanks, and happy editing! (On another computer) 75.53.209.208 (talk) 17:42, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

article for Unreal Media Server
Unreal Media Serever http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Unreal_Media_Server

This article was declined twice by other editors before you. In both cases they left reasonable critics of notability and footnotes which were addressed. Please view page history and read my talk with editor Excirical; this will explain your "advertisement" concern to you.

All articles about proprietary software products are more or less written this way. Take a look at the products in the article Comparasion of streaming media systems.

I feel that this decline was done in a rush without investigating previous decline-fix history Unsined comment from User:98.242.76.129 User talk:98.242.76.129


 * Alright. MY 2 concerns with this article: 1) It does not appear to meet the notability guidelines to be included on Wikipedia.  I've read the article a couple times now, and I see nothing that shows this software should be included when other softwares like it are not.  2) The article looks like an advertisement.  You highlight the features, and the wording of some of your descriptions are not neutral.  I hope this helps.  As for your discussion with the other editor, please provide a link to the discussion. <strong style="color:#990000;">  AndrewN  talk 01:01, 25 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Please look at Reviews and Tutorials section - it has reviews by magazines that satisfied two other editors that reviewed the article before. Looking at the page history you can easily see all past happenings, but here is the link to my discussion with Excirical: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Excirial#article_for_Unreal_Media_Server

Please suggest how can I mitigate the wording so that it will be more neutral, as I think the article simply states the facts - it never compares or praises anything.

Eurocom Corporation
Hi,

My article: Eurocom Corporation keeps getting declined. I first was instructed that I needed more references and sources. I loaded it with credible sources and it still got declined and shortened substantially. WoodleysRoadmaster (talk) 16:31, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

I'm no expert and I am quite new to Wikipedia some assistance would be nice. I am not trying to say that it should be accepted but some help would be great.

here's a link to the working page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Eurocom_Corporation

I think wikipedia is great and I would like to contribute more but this process is becoming quite frustrating......

Help!

Helpme-inappropriate
Hi. You turned helpme templates to Help me-inappropriate on the talk pages of and. These users were asking for help in making an article acceptable and in getting unblocked, respectively - those are both aspects of "using Wikipedia", and perfectly proper uses of "helpme". "Help me-inappropriate" would be suitable for people asking non-Wikipedia questions more appropriate for the WP:Reference desk, though even then it would be more friendly to point them to the Ref Desk. JohnCD (talk) 21:13, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Both pages, when I changed the template, already had ongoing discussions. Please remember that this template causes users to be notified on IRC.  If you are actively working with them, please use help me-working. <strong style="color:#990000;">  AndrewN  talk 21:24, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
 * The "inappropriate" template carries an implication that the requester has done something wrong. If the responder did not turn "helpme" to "tl|helpme" or "helpme-helped", that may have been because s/he intended to leave it open for others to contribute, or because s/he forgot. In neither case has the requester done anything wrong. What one can do, as I have done with Berzha3, is turn off the "helpme" and say why. JohnCD (talk) 21:51, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Hell. I only know what I've been told.  Thanks for the clarification.  I'm  on Aharon's request, since it is AfC-related. <strong style="color:#990000;">  AndrewN  talk 21:54, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
 * No worries. Good luck with Aharon, but I'm afraid he's flogging a dead horse, his rapper doesn't seem to be anywhere near WP:MUSICBIO. I have already pointed him to WP:AMOUNT once. JohnCD (talk) 21:57, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
 * My thoughts exactly. <strong style="color:#990000;">  AndrewN  talk 21:59, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Articles for creation/Wojciech Płocharski
Andrew, concentrate. You got ready material - for easy processing. After all, you're an editor, not a man to the automatic acceptance of the finished products. Browse yet this material in greater concentration. I look forward to satisfying effect. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.204.43.92 (talk) 05:40, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
 * The role of Articles for Creation is to review articles created by other editors, not take a rough start of an article and finish it for them. If you would like someone else to create your article for you, please visit Requested Articles. <strong style="color:#990000;">  AndrewN  talk 05:43, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Hmm, too bad, although for the proper editor is a breeze... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.204.101.55 (talk) 05:54, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation
<div style="border:solid 1px #9accf6;background:#f1f9ff;padding:1em;padding-top:0.5em;padding-bottom:0.5em;width:20em;color:black;margin-bottom: 1.5em;margin-left: 1.5em;width: 90%;"> Thank you for your recent submission to Articles for Creation. Your article submission has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. Please view your submission to see the comments left by the reviewer. You are welcome to edit the submission to address the issues raised, and resubmit once you feel they have been resolved.
 * If you would like to continue working on the submission, you can find it at Wikipedia&.
 * To edit the submission, click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
 * If you need any assistance, you can ask for help at the help desk, via real time chat with helpers, or on the [ reviewer's talk page]
 * Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia! Millermk90 (talk) 05:53, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Not my submission, not my problem. Make sure you tag the right person. Thanks. <strong style="color:#990000;">  AndrewN  talk 05:54, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
 * According to the page history, you submitted it, so the script put this on your page. If you don't want to hear about AFCs, don't submit them . Millermk90 (talk) 05:57, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Here is the diff from the original author. Please notify them.  I would do so myself, but I have >500 submissions to make from submissions I declined today. <strong style="color:#990000;">  AndrewN  talk 06:02, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I notified the other user. Thanks for the heads up about the wrong talk page, and sorry about the grouchy response, looks like it's my bedtime :) Millermk90 (talk) 06:12, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Same here. Have a much needed vacation starting tomorrow.  Thanks for helping clear the backlog.  At time of posting, we're down to 303 pending submissions, and we started at 872 just a few hours ago. It's nice to get that number down <500 finally!  Have a good one! <strong style="color:#990000;">  AndrewN  talk 06:14, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Lebanese Association for Computational Sciences
Hi AndrewN

You recently reviewed my page entitled “Lebanese_Association_for_Computational_Sciences” (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Lebanese_Association_for_Computational_Sciences), and unfortunately it was not accepted to be published.

Your comments were “references do not adequately evidence the subject's notability” and that “the information must be verifiable”.

I have read in Wikipedia guidelines that I should provide trusted 3rd party sources which are not published by me or by my blog or Facebook page. I have read too that a good source of references in my case (research institution) could be any academic scholarly trusted repository such as Google Scholar or Microsoft Academics that show my institution’s publications and research findings.

If you go back to my Wikipedia article, you can find that reference number 5 and 6 are two of the top online repositories for scholarly work (arXiv.org and Google Scholar). I actually don’t have any control over these websites, in a sense that Google Scholar auto-crawl scholarly work found on the Internet and index them into its database. On the hand, arXiv.org uses a different approach, you submit your work, their team will review and validate it for 3 to 4 days then they decide either to post it or discard it.

I, however, have other trusted 3rd party sources that can show my institution’s work but I didn’t include them in the article for conciseness purposes. For instance you may check the following:

http://academic.research.microsoft.com/Search?query=author%3a%28youssef%20bassil%29

http://www.informatik.uni-trier.de/~ley/db/indices/a-tree/b/Bassil:Youssef.html

and my article already contains these links

http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=%22lebanese+association+for+computational+sciences%22 http://arxiv.org/find/all/1/all:+AND+sciences+AND+computational+AND+for+AND+lebanese+association

No offense, but I am not sure if you know that the above 4 venues are what every researcher seeks to get his work posted on. Furthermore, these repositories are peer-reviewed, it is not like researchgate.net or academia.edu which don’t validate your work prior to acceptance (researchgate and academia are like Facebook but for research purposes) which I have accounts with them but I didn’t mention them because I know ahead of time that they are not trusted because anyone can create a page and start posting any work and share any text.

Moreover, if you search Google for my institution name you will get plenty of results

http://www.google.com.lb/#sclient=psy-ab&hl=en&safe=off&site=&source=hp&q=Lebanese+Association+for+Computational+Sciences+&oq=Lebanese+Association+for+Computational+Sciences+&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_l=hp.3...782.782.0.1204.1.1.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0...0.0.wg5-oIYdYEM&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=55a28426fb167751&biw=1280&bih=647

Moreover, there are dozens of international academic journals that list my work. You may check some of them here:

http://www.consortiacademia.org/index.php/ijrsc/article/view/71

http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2012arXiv1203.5262B

http://ojs.excelingtech.co.uk/index.php/IJCSET/search/authors/view?firstName=Youssef&middleName=&lastName=Bassil&affiliation=LACSC%20%E2%80%93%20Lebanese%20Association%20for%20Computational%20Sciences&country=LB

http://www.worldsciencepublisher.org/journals/index.php/ACSA/search/authors/view?firstName=Youssef&middleName=&lastName=Bassil&affiliation=LACSC%20%E2%80%93%20Lebanese%20Association%20for%20Computational%20Sciences&country=LB

http://scholarlyexchange.org/ojs/index.php/IJRRCS/search/authors/view?firstName=Youssef&middleName=&lastName=Bassil&affiliation=LACSC%20%E2%80%93%20Lebanese%20Association%20for%20Computational%20Sciences&country=LB

http://journal.ccsenet.org/index.php/cis/search/authors/view?firstName=Youssef&middleName=&lastName=Bassil&affiliation=LACSC%20%E2%80%93%20Lebanese%20Association%20for%20Computational%20Sciences&country=LB

And again I don’t have any control over neither I own these scholarly venues.

Finally, all I can say is that no research institution or researcher can provide more than such trusted resources, otherwise none can be accepted for Wikipedia inclusion as there would be no way to show the work of any institution but through such scholarly repositories, I provided above. If you check those institution

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Association_for_Research_in_Computing_Science http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Computer_Society

I think you would right away tell that they do not provide trusted references, but still, they were accepted as Wikipedia articles.

To refine my article I propose to add these two references which I previously mentioned. I don’t know if you have better ideas.

http://academic.research.microsoft.com/Search?query=author%3a%28youssef%20bassil%29

http://www.informatik.uni-trier.de/~ley/db/indices/a-tree/b/Bassil:Youssef.html

Anyway, thanks for the time you spent on reading this and hope we will find a way to resolve it.

Regards, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Youssef102 (talk • contribs) 09:34, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Feedback for Syed Tahla Ahsan article
Dear Andrew, Thanks for reviewing my resubmitted article on Syed Tahla Ahsan. There is some misinformation and little factual material in the public domain about the case of Syed Tahla Ahsan. Nonetheless it is very high profile in the UK and of considerable import in the US too. Hence, it is imperative to make some factual information widely accessible on Wikipedia. Examples of some notable people closely-related to Syed Tahla Ahsan already on Wikipedia are Babar Ahmad, who is also facing extradition to the US and Gary McKinnon who like Syed Tahla Ahsan has Aspergers syndrome. A discussion of these cases helps to inform the broader entry on government policies conntected with the US/UK extradition treaty. I would really appreciate your thoughts, hoping to hear from you once your back from your break, best regards jkdjuliaJkdjulia (talk) 09:39, 26 May 2012 (UTC) Dear Andrew, Thanks for feedback. I am looking at ways of emphasising the notability of Syed Tahla Ahsan to you and in the piece. To aid in verification, I will include a link to the European Court judgement. Whole articles have been written about him (ie a lot more than a lengthy paragraph). Examples of published pieces in the mainstream media include: Omar Shaid's piece in the Huffington Post, AL Kennedy in the Guardian and Secunder Kermani on the BBC. I will go back and do some more editing...speak to you later. Best regards, JuliaJkdjulia (talk) 16:05, 26 May 2012 (UTC)