User talk:Andrew Brza

Help me!
Please, I've created a page about an African researcher called Ivor Chipkin in my sandbox. Could someone tell me if it's good enough to be published? Thank you! User:Andrew Brza/sandbox Andrew Brza (talk) 22:49, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
 * I've linked to your sandbox so others can easily find it. I placed a submission template on your draft in case you wish to formally submit it for a review, but I will leave your request open in case others wish to comment more directly. 331dot (talk) 23:50, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
 * I'm turning off the help me batsignal. If you want a review of your draft, please submit it for review. Offhand, it seems like Chipkin may be notable, but your draft may not be doing an adequate job of establishing it. You cannot use his own writings to establish notability. You would need to cite the work of other scholars or journalists who have written about the impact his scholarship has made. As a reminder, you want footnotes to appear at the end of sentences, after the punctuation. The statement should be based on something the source says about the subject; it does not work to cite a source that only supports one aspect of a sentence, leaving the rest unsupported.  — jmcgnh (talk) (contribs) 03:18, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Ivor Chipkin (March 4)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by GSS was:

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GSS &#x202F;&#128172; 17:25, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Ivor Chipkin has been accepted
 Ivor Chipkin, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

Congratulations, and thank you for helping expand the scope of Wikipedia! We hope you will continue making quality contributions.

The article has been assessed as Start-Class, which is recorded on its talk page. Most new articles start out as Stub-Class or Start-Class and then attain higher grades as they develop over time. You may like to take a look at the grading scheme to see how you can improve the article.

Since you have made at least 10 edits over more than four days, you can now create articles yourself without posting a request. However, you may continue submitting work to Articles for creation if you prefer.

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Thanks again, and happy editing! Paul W (talk) 17:56, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

Hi User:Andrew Brza. As sometimes happens, another editor rejected the article while I was doing a detailed review and some editing of the article (I have previously edited pages about state capture, hence my interest); after some further edits, I resubmitted it and then approved it. I think you produced a good foundation that warrants inclusion in Wikipedia where it can be improved and expanded. Thanks for creating it. Paul W (talk) 18:03, 4 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Dear Paul,
 * Thank you! I am still a new Wikipedian, and sometimes it's challenging to navigate the rules and understand the dynamics of how Wikipedia operates. I appreciate your kindness. I had made a previous version of the text, received numerous pieces of feedback, and it was quickly taken down. This time, I proceeded by writing a draft, and I liked the adjustments you made. I am interested in writing a draft for a page about the "Betrayal of the Promise" report. When I have a ready version, I will definitely seek your help for review, okay? Thank you! Andrew Brza (talk) 18:40, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Hi Andrew. I appreciate it can be daunting to new Wikipedians to negotiate the various steps needed in creating and editing articles (let me know if I can help at all). I have spent some time today attempting to counter the Deletion discussion (mainly adding links to reviews, etc), and it seems others feel it is worth keeping (PS: you might wish to add your own 'vote'; in doing so, if you do have a personal or professional connection to Chipkin, you should mention this - per the COI notice posted below). Best wishes. Paul W (talk) 11:25, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
 * hi! thanks for the guidance. as i said below i work on the topic of corruption in government in south africa as a researcher and i cannot open up my identity. i have had interactions with ivor but we do not work together, which is why i will abstain from voting Andrew Brza (talk) 11:52, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Anonymity is perfectly acceptable in Wikipedia. Over the years, I have had many interactions with the subjects of Wikipedia articles. As far as possible, I have been transparent about those contacts, noting them on relevant Talk pages or edit summaries, so your candour is appreciated. Paul W (talk) 12:39, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

Nomination of Ivor Chipkin for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Ivor Chipkin is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Ivor Chipkin until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished. GSS &#x202F;&#128172; 18:04, 4 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Thank you for explaining! Andrew Brza (talk) 18:41, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

Managing a conflict of interest
Hello, Andrew Brza. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on the page Ivor Chipkin‎, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for article subjects for more information. We ask that you:


 * avoid editing or creating articles about yourself, your family, friends, colleagues, company, organization, clients, or competitors;
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In addition, you are required by the Wikimedia Foundation's terms of use to disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation. See Paid-contribution disclosure.

Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. GSS &#x202F;&#128172; 19:00, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Andrew Brza, I see you made some edits after the above notice was issued but didn't reply here so please disclose if you have a conflict of interest before making any further edit. Thank you. GSS &#x202F;&#128172; 04:52, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
 * I am a researcher in the field of corruption and improvement of public administration in South Africa and I cannot reveal my identity for security reasons. I have had interactions with Ivor but we have not worked together. Andrew Brza (talk) 11:50, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your response. The request for disclosure stems from your statements on the commons-wiki, where you mentioned having written permission from the copyright holder to use file:Ivor Chipkin.webp. GSS &#x202F;&#128172; 13:24, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Understood. I still have that authorization but I didn't understand how to submit it to wikimedia and the photo ended up deleted. Andrew Brza (talk) 13:43, 5 March 2024 (UTC)