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 * Wikidata babel multi-language easter egg
 * The Occitan Wikipedia and Wikidata
 * Other Noteworthy Stuff
 * Wikivoyage is scheduled to get access to Wikidata data (aka phase 2) on August 26th.
 * Listen to and watch beautiful Wikidata edits
 * To support the inclusion of geographical coordinates in Wikidata, just about two months a new data type came available and d:Property:P625 "coordinate location" was created. Already 565,000 pairs of coordinates are now available on WikiData. Compare this to 870,000 coordinates on English Wikipedia or 1,500,000 items with d:Property:P17 "country", likely to have coordinates. Have a look at them on a map.
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 * Newest properties: approved by (P790), ISIL ID (P791), chapter (P792), Key event (P793), as (P794), distance along (P795), geo datum (P796), executing authority (P797), mission design series designation (P798), air ministry specification (P799), work (P800), notable work (P801), student (P802), professorship (P803), GNIS Antarctica ID (P804), subject of (P805). Italian cadastre code (P806) In Addition new properties to describe mushrooms were created: hymenium type (P783), mushroom cap shape (P784), hymenium attachment (P785), stipe character (P786), spore print color (P787), mushroom ecological type (P789), edibility (P789). These will allow to build the data for a mushroom infobox (as w:Template:Mycomorphbox).
 * Newest task forces: Physics task force
 * Wikidata helped remove 240,000,000 language links from Wikipedia's wiki text.
 * Development
 * Want to get an overview of what Pragun, our Google Summer of Code student working on Wikidata for mobile, is doing? Check here
 * Worked on simple special page to make a query (52385)
 * Worked on ability to move qualifiers
 * Started improving API and Special Page tests
 * Fixed links to Special:SetSiteLink in non-JavaScript interface (51914)
 * ChangeOps, custom summaries and autocomments for SetStatementRank API module
 * Fixed displaying “0” as label/description in autocomments
 * Some minor fixes for rare crashes of editing UI
 * Worked on moving Selenium tests to Cucumber
 * Open Tasks for You
 * See if you can connect some of these Wikivoyage pages to their item on Wikidata.
 * Check if some of the items on this and this list can be merged. But be careful to only merge if they are really about the same topic! Help about merging is at d:Help:Merge.
 * Update, expand and translate d:Wikidata:Introduction to make it easier for newcomers to understand what Wikidata is all about.
 * Hack on one of these.

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ORCID
The number of entries in Category:Wikipedia articles with ORCID identifiers is disappointingly low. Any thoughts on how we might improve that?

The user page equivalent, likewise. Do you have an ORCID ID yet?

Also, are any of your BAS colleagues, or former BL colleagues, the subjects of Wikipedia bios? You could ask them, for their ORCID IDs, or suggest they get one, and add them. And their voice recordings, too! Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:02, 21 August 2013 (UTC)


 * I don't think there's much we can do to improve it at this end, as the intersection of people with ORCIDs and people with Wikipedia articles is very small - remember that most ORCIDs are still self-assigned, and most will be registered by people we don't cover. It'll remain this way until we see them bulk-assigned by publishers/insitutions (which was certainly on the roadmap a while back). Andrew Gray (talk) 18:50, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

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Help with LCCN/OCLC problem
So I added the LCCN for Edward Evans (divine); the link to the LCNAF works fine; but the link to OCLC/Worldcat Identities points to the undifferentiated Edward Evans... I think it's a problem on the OCLC side? I didn't know where to post this query (VIAF errors didn't seem right); so thought you might be able to help... thanks in advance.

Yours in an authorized access point kind of way... --FeanorStar7 01:26, 22 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the information. Yes, I've noticed that there is a significant lag between updates in the LCNAF file and OCLC. The "about" page on OCLC for the Identities project says that they do quarterly updates... so I will check later in the year... --FeanorStar7 00:07, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

WLM thanks
Thanks for the fantastic work you have been doing on the Scottish lists, Andrew. I think you have saved the day! --MichaelMaggs (talk) 08:23, 23 August 2013 (UTC)


 * And a big thank you for tackling the Edinburgh and Glasgow lists - monstrous indeed which is why I never started them myself. (I think the Fife list was the one that finished me off...) Great work! Jonathan Oldenbuck (talk) 09:05, 23 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks both! There's still a lot of work to get them up to the high standard of existing lists, but at least we've now got a framework in place. My main qualm is going to be the challenging task of trying to write a short summary for each of the lists, to match the second paragraph in (eg) List of Category A listed buildings in Aberdeen. Andrew Gray (talk) 11:56, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

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 * Discussions
 * Discussion started about improving the RfC process
 * d:Wikidata:Requests for comment/References and sources has been closed
 * Events/Press/Blogs
 * Report from Wikimania
 * Wikidata meets Incubator
 * Office hour on 26th
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 * Average edits per page is nearly 5 now.
 * Wikivoyage is still scheduled to get access to data on Wikidata (aka phase 2) on August 26.
 * Developers are working hard to also make the URL datatype available by August 26 but there are factors that are not in their hands so it might have to be delayed until the next deployment in 2 weeks. URL as a datatype will soon be available on test.wikidata.org. Please give it some thorough testing and report bugs.
 * Outsch! (Help collect and fix paper cuts.)
 * Did you know?
 * 20 undescribed monsters
 * Newest properties: separated from (P807), code Bien de Interés Cultural (P808), WPDA id (P809), academic minor (P811), academic major (P812), date retrieved (P813), IUCN protected areas category (P814), ITIS TSN (P815), decays to (P816), decay mode (P817)
 * Development
 * Prepared deployment of phase 2 on Wikivoyage
 * Worked on ability to sort qualifiers and references inside a statement
 * Started work on an api module to merge items
 * Worked on special page to query for items with one specific property and value
 * Cleaned up code for handling recent change entries from Wikidata in the clients (Wikipedia/Wikivoyage)
 * Worked on generic script for populating sites table and better integration with WMF process for creating new wikis
 * Setup new git repo for WikibaseMobile skin and extension
 * Fixed SetClaim api module to properly mark bot edits in recent changes and advised pywikipedia maintainers about adding support for the module. SetClaim can be used to create claims with references in a single edit.
 * Reviewed code for Google Summer of Code students
 * Updated doxygen documentation
 * Open Tasks for You
 * Report a paper cut (see above).
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 * The previous version of MediaWiki (1.22/wmf13) was added to test wikis and MediaWiki.org on August 15. It was enabled on non-Wikipedia sites on August 19, and on all Wikipedias on August 22.
 * The latest version of MediaWiki (1.22/wmf14) was added to test wikis and MediaWiki.org on August 22. It will be enabled on non-Wikipedia sites on August 26, and on all Wikipedias on August 29.
 * You can now use new styles of galleries. Please give feedback to User:Bawolff.
 * You can now visit a random page in a category, for example Special:RandomInCategory/Science. (25931)
 * You can now use the HTML5 tag to say where a word can be cut. (52468)
 * Gadget authors: you can now use the  hook, so that your scripts are re-run when a page is changed after the   event (for example using Ajax). (30713)

Problems fixed
 * There was a bug where file redirects didn't work when a file was renamed; it is now fixed. There is still an issue with purging, but it should be fixed soon. (52200)
 * Special:SpecialPages provided by special pages will now all be updated on each wiki every six months. This will for example give you recent information on uncategorized pages, unused templates and most wanted pages (see details).
 * There was a bug that caused false positives for anti-blanking edit filters; it is now fixed. (52077)

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 * The "edit" and "edit source" tabs and section edit links can now be changed more easily; for example, some wikis are using "edit source" for wikitext editing, and "edit beta" for VisualEditor. You can ask for the same change in bugzilla.
 * You can now edit references that are added inside a  block. (51741)
 * You can now test on mediawiki.org new basic tools to add and edit struck text (with the VisualEditor - Icon - Strikethrough-a.svg button for the  tag), lower text (VisualEditor - Icon - Subscript.svg for  ), upper text (VisualEditor - Icon - Superscript.svg for  ), underlined text (VisualEditor - Icon - Underline-a.svg for  ), computer code (VisualEditor - Icon - Code.svg for   and  ), math text (VisualEditor - Icon - Equation.svg for  ), Egyptian hieroglyphs (VisualEditor - Icon - Hieroglyphics.svg for  ), and to say that text is in another language (VisualEditor - Icon - Language.svg for  ). (51609, 51612, 51611, 51590, 51610, 52352)
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Broken Geonotice throwing Javascript errors
You forgot a quotation mark: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki%3AGeonotice.js&diff=570463481&oldid=570436001

It's fixed now, but just thought I'd let you know. Cheers. Kaldari (talk) 23:44, 27 August 2013 (UTC)


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WikiCup 2013 August newsletter
This year's final is upon us. Our final eight, in order of last round's score, are:
 * , a WikiCup newcomer who has contributed on topics of military history and physics, including a number of high-importance topics. Good articles have made up the bulk of his points, but he has also scored a great deal of bonus points. He has the second highest score overall so far, with more than 3000 points accumulated.
 * , another WikiCup veteran who reached the finals in 2012, 2011 and 2010. He writes on a variety of topics including botany, mycology and astronomy, and has claimed the highest or joint highest number of featured articles every round so far this year. He has the third highest score overall, with just under 3000 points accumulated.
 * , 2012 WikiCup champion, who writes mostly on marine biology. She has also contributed to high-importance topics, seeing huge numbers of bonus points for high-importance featured and good articles. Previous rounds have seen her scoring the most bonus points, with scoring spread across did you knows, good articles and featured articles.
 * , a WikiCup veteran who finished in second place in 2012, and competed as early as 2009. He writes articles on biology, especially mycology, and has scored highly for a number of collaborations at featured article candidates.
 * , the winner of the 2010 competition. His contributions mostly concern Naval history, and he has scored a very large number of points for good articles and good article reviews in every round. He is the highest scorer overall this year, with over 3500 points in total.
 * , who is competing in the WikiCup for the second time, though this will be her first time in the final. A regular at FAC, she is mostly interested in British medieval history, and has scored very highly for some top-importance featured articles on the topic.
 * , a finalist in 2012 and 2011. He writes on a broad variety of topics, with many of this year's points coming from good articles about Star Trek. Good articles make up the bulk of his points, and he had the most good articles back in round 2; he was also the highest scorer for DYK in rounds 1 and 2.
 * 1) has previously been involved with the WikiCup, but hasn't participated for a number of years. He scores mostly from restoration work leading to featured picture credits, but has also done some article writing and reviewing.

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This last month has seen some incredible contributions; for instance, Cwmhiraeth's Starfish and Ealdgyth's Battle of Hastings—two highly important, highly viewed pages—made it to featured article status. It would be all too easy to focus solely on these stunning achievements at the expense of those participants working in lower-scoring areas, when in fact all WikiCup participants are doing excellent work. A mention of everything done is impossible, but here are a few: Last round saw the completion of several good topics (on the 1958, 1959 and 1962 Atlantic hurricane seasons) to which 12george1 had contributed. Calvin999 saw "S&M" (song), on which he has been working for several years, through to featured article status on its tenth try. Figureskatingfan continued towards her goal of a broad featured/good topic on Maya Angelou, with two featured and four good articles. ThaddeusB contributed significantly to over 20 articles which appeared on the main page's "in the news" section. Adam Cuerden continued to restore a large number of historical images, resulting in over a dozen FP credits this round alone. The WikiCup is not just about top-importance featured articles, and the work of all of these users is worthy of commendation.

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British Library
Hi Andrew

I'm interested in visiting the British library to do some research for Wikipedia articles in the next couple of months, and thought I'd get in touch with the Wikipedian in Residence first to get some tips and advice on the best way to proceed. According to WP:GLAM/BL, you served in that post until April 2013. I was wondering if you're still doing the job, or if someone else has taken over? Many thanks! &mdash; Amakuru (talk) 08:45, 22 August 2013 (UTC)


 * it was just me, I'm afraid, there's no successor! Have you used the BL before as a reader? Andrew Gray (talk) 12:03, 22 August 2013 (UTC)


 * I haven't, no. It looks from the website as though it should be relatively straightforward to register and gain access to the reading rooms. Presumably research for Wikipedia would be a good enough reason for them? Are there are any other complications you know of? Thanks &mdash; Amakuru (talk) 12:23, 22 August 2013 (UTC)


 * sorry for not replying sooner! The registration can be a little daunting at times (it seems to vary for different people, some find it really smooth) - make sure you have a clear idea in mind of what material you want and check that you can't easily get it elsewhere. It's probably worth having a list of titles handy. And remember the right forms of ID, even if you've pre-registered! That catches a lot of people out.
 * I haven't had anyone tell me they said Wikipedia at the registration office, but hopefully it'll go down well ;-). Andrew Gray (talk) 22:01, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Andrew, thanks for the tips. I'll let you know how it goes! (Probably won't be for a couple of months though...) &mdash; Amakuru (talk) 17:14, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

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 * Request for comment on Geo Coordinates for people
 * Request for comment on reuse of data from DBpedia
 * Events/Press/Blogs
 * State of the Map (September 6-8, 2013)
 * Recent office hour logs now availible.
 * Other Noteworthy Stuff
 * Abraham, Denny and Lydia sat down for an evening trying to capture what Wikidata is about in a video.
 * Deployment! Wikivoyage now has access to the wikidata dataset and various other bugs have also been fixed (including the copyright warning)!
 * Did you know?
 * Newest properties: interchange station (P833), public holiday (P832), parent club (P831), Encyclopedia of Life (P830), OEIS ID (P829), possible causes (P828), BBC programme identifier (P827), tonality (P826), dedicated to (P825), Meteoritical Bulletin Database ID (P824)
 * Newest task forces: País Valencià task force
 * Development
 * Work on allowing API module editentities to edit claims
 * Work on entity / item redirects
 * Work on support for moving qualifiers in API and Frontend
 * Adding coordinates to diff display and improving diff display code
 * Allowing site groups for language links on clients to be configurable (needed for commons)
 * EntityId changes, we are now working on 0.5!
 * Show snaktype in summary for novalue and somevalue snaks
 * Further work on merge module for the API
 * Wrote missing tests for various jQuery widgets
 * Work on value formatters
 * Continue on moving tests to cucumber
 * Bug fixes for coordinates following the latest deployment
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 * Help fix formatting and value issues for a property.
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Geonotice in South Africa
Hey Andrew, I think the coordinates for this Geonotice are wrong, it's supposed to be in South Africa, but it's currently in the middle of the Atlantic. Just thought I'd let you know before I fix it. MikeLynch (talk) 04:43, 28 August 2013 (UTC)


 * This is what I get for putting up a message while still ill! Looks like I somehow got the coordinates inverted. Thanks for spotting it. Andrew Gray (talk) 07:50, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
 * :) . Hey, do you know of an easy way to get coordinates for points on a map for the geonotice? I currently follow a tedious procedure. MikeLynch (talk) 08:10, 28 August 2013 (UTC)


 * The Flickr API offers a rough limit for country/province bounding boxes, which I've found quite useful - see here. For individual cities I tend to do centre +- a degree or half a degree in all directions. The ones with a city + neighbouring areas can be really tricky, though, especially in the US. Andrew Gray (talk) 12:03, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks, that is helpful. MikeLynch (talk) 06:06, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

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Changes to SuggestBot's suggestions
We have changed the number of suggested articles and which categories they are selected from. The number of stubs has been greatly reduced, the number of articles needing sources doubled, and two new categories added (orphans and unencyclopaedic articles). We have also modified the layout of the suggestions and added sortable columns with various types of information about each article. The first two columns are:


 * Views/Day : Daily average number of views an article's had over the past 14 days.
 * Quality : Predicted article quality on a 1- to 3-star scale. Placing your cursor over the stars should give you a pop-up describing the article's quality (Low/Medium/High), current assessment class, and predicted assessment class.

The method we use to predict article quality also allows us to assess whether an article might need specific types of work in order to improve its quality. The work needed might not correspond to cleanup tags added to the article, since our method is not based on those. We have added five columns reflecting this work assessment, where a red X indicates improvement is needed. Placing your cursor over an X should give you a pop-up with a short description of the work needed. The five columns seek to answer the following five questions:


 * Content : Is more content needed?
 * Headings : Does this article have an appropriate section structure?
 * Images : Is the number of illustrative images about right?
 * Links : Does this article link to enough other Wikipedia articles?
 * Sources : For its length, is there an appropriate number of citations to sources in this article?

SuggestBot picks articles in a number of ways based on other articles you've edited, including straight text similarity, following wikilinks, and matching your editing patterns against those of other Wikipedians. It tries to recommend only articles that other Wikipedians have marked as needing work. We appreciate that you have signed up to receive suggestions regularly, your contributions make Wikipedia better — thanks for helping!

If you have feedback on how to make SuggestBot better, please let us know on SuggestBot's talk page. Regards from Nettrom (talk), SuggestBot's caretaker. -- SuggestBot (talk) 23:28, 1 September 2013 (UTC)