User talk:Andries/Wikipedia:plagiarism

This seems odd
It says:

However when the editors draws ideas and inspiration for an article from non-reputable source then plagiarism is difficult to avoid, because these sources cannot be cited.

This is not an issue on wikipedia because if a source is non-reputable, and cannot be cited, then that source cannot be used here per WP:V. I don't see how the reputation of the source has any effect on the use of the word plagiarism. HighInBC (Need help? Ask me) 17:41, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Because it is possible to draw ideas and inspiration extensively from non-reputable sources. I have done so, but I cannot avoid plagiarism because I cannot cite the sources. Andries 18:56, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Outside of Wikipedia, it tends not to be a problem. Andries 19:00, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

True, but the essay is written in the context of Wikipedia. It does make sense outside of wikipedia. HighInBC (Need help? Ask me) 20:00, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Copyright
I would make the additional mention that plagiarism also often constitutes a violation of copyright.

Also, paraphrasing without citing your source can still still plagiarism, although it is not a violation of copyright. It is possible to plagiarize ideas. It is not possible to copyright them. - Jmabel | Talk 21:19, 23 November 2006 (UTC)