User talk:Andro611

August 2022
Hi Andro611! I noticed that you recently marked an edit as minor that may not have been. You mark almost all of your edits; many of them are not minor. "Minor edit" has a very specific definition on Wikipedia—it refers only to superficial edits that could never be the subject of a dispute, such as typo corrections or reverting obvious vandalism. Any edit that changes the meaning of an article is not a minor edit, even if it only concerns a single word. Please see Help:Minor edit for more information. Thank you. Sundayclose (talk) 23:25, 17 August 2022 (UTC)

My apologies. I though "minor edit" meant "few words added or deleted". Will mark edits properly in the future. Thank you for informing me. Andro611 (talk) 09:55, 19 August 2022 (UTC)

September 2022
Your edit to China has been removed in whole or in part, because you are using unsourced population data. Wikipedia doesn't allow any unsourced information. Wikipedia takes sourcing very seriously, and persistent violators of our sourcing policy will be blocked from editing. See Reliable sources for more information. RayAdvait (talk) 03:05, 4 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Trust me, this is from my own experience in another article. RayAdvait (talk) 03:07, 4 September 2022 (UTC)

I have removed your edit because it reads "largest city by [blank]" if you want add another metric by all means do it. Andro611 (talk) 10:03, 4 September 2022 (UTC)


 * the largest city by blank wasn't done by me RayAdvait (talk) 11:54, 4 September 2022 (UTC)

Did you not delete the word "population" from the infobox? Andro611 (talk) 13:14, 4 September 2022 (UTC)


 * No Andro RayAdvait (talk) 13:28, 4 September 2022 (UTC)

Actually you did. But I see that I didn't take note of the other changes you made which were nullified by my reversion. Yue has fixed it. Andro611 (talk) 13:54, 4 September 2022 (UTC)

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Territories and italics
Kosovo is a Pandora's Box for all manner of reasons, so much so that oftentimes I feel a Serbia note should be created and added as you have the Kosovo note template- because you never know when seeing Serbia on a list where an internal survey is the source of its inclusion whether the study in question included or left out citizens of Kosovo. There are examples of both. There's another reason I am writing to you. Niue and Cook Islands are in italics and marked "(NZ)". I take it you know that ontologically these two are not different to the Marshall Island, Palau and Micronesia. See Associated state. --Coldtrack (talk) 00:11, 15 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Yes, Kosovo is problematic because is it de facto a sovereign and independent country, however it has no legal basis for statehood until Serbia decides to recognise it (fat chance of the ever happening). It cannot claim self-determination, hasn't ever historically been a country nor did it have any constitutional right to be independent. And yet it is a country, just like Somaliland, albeit with limited recognition.
 * There is actually a point of distinction between the Cook Island and Niue vs Marshall Islands, Palau and FSoM. The most common reason why people list them as possessions of New Zealand is because while the associating treaty between Palau et al and the US is an international treaty, the association treaty between Cook is, Niue and New Zealand is an internal treaty. Perhaps it could be described as a sort of personal union (with the monarch of New Zealand)? Regardless, functionally they are the same and I wouldn't necessarily object to them being displayed without italics. Maybe we should try to establish some consensus about the Cook Islands and Niue with other editors.
 * Best regards. Andro611 (talk) 01:41, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
 * As you said, it is a distinction - which you know doesn't mean "difference". I knew there were technincal nuances between the NZ and the US lands but only because of what it says on the link I provided. Since we are talking about just one article and not some precedent (as each arictle follows its own protocols where it produces spreadsheets), I reckon what you and I agree here will be good enough and I doubt something this obscure and minute will even register with most people viewing the article. So would you be all right if I italised the NZ entries? PS. I agree entirely about Kosovo, though sadly it is the apologists for its independence status that carry more weight throughout the project as I've experienced in one or two places. --Coldtrack (talk) 20:07, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
 * By all means then, de-italicise the Cook Islands and Niue. Andro611 (talk) 02:25, 16 January 2023 (UTC)

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 * Note - material created by the US Federal government is public domain. That doe snot automatically make material produced by other governments public domain. -- Whpq (talk) 01:37, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
 * But why is material on wikisource that is not in public domain in Hong Kong SAR still available under the explanation that it is public domain in the United States? Is it allowed to post material that is in public domain in the US, but not in the jurisdiction of origin?
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 * https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Leung_Kwok-hung_and_Others_v_HKSAR Andro611 (talk) 13:40, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Edicts of a foreign government, such as laws and judicial decisions, are public domain. Pictures and creative works? That depends on local law. Justarandomamerican (talk) Have a good day! 20:46, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

Revert at Li Fu Lee
Hello. I reverted your edit because you didn't provide a source that supports the additions. If you have a source, let me know and I'll help you with adding the source and information to the article. FunnyMath (talk) 03:54, 23 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Sorry, I didn't see the discussion in the talk page! In that case, then we might be able to add it in. The problem is that we prefer to have secondary sources that give her death date and death place. I'm thinking we can cite the plaque that shows her birth and death date as a source, but I've never heard of that being done before. FunnyMath (talk) 04:00, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Oh, we do have a template for plaques: Template:Cite sign. I'll restore your edits and add the source. FunnyMath (talk) 04:07, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Andro611 (talk) 11:25, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
 * You're welcome! FunnyMath (talk) 14:34, 23 April 2023 (UTC)

April 2023
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 * I was under the assumption that that's not a problem in temporary drafts if changed in the final version. Can I add the logo of the company in the draft? Andro611 (talk) 20:17, 26 April 2023 (UTC)

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Unsourced content on Swire
If you any more unsourced content into Wikipedia I will take you up to WP:ANI. It not just WP:BLP that references. Every sentences on every type of article under the sun needs references and includes company. So please, no more unsourced content.  scope_creep Talk  21:26, 23 October 2023 (UTC)


 * My good man do you even know anything about the China Navigation Company? You do realise this entity trades as Swire Shipping?
 * I did not add this to the article. I just find it absurd that you're removing it 41 seconds after I reverted your edit to try and find a reference for "Swire Shipping being the shipping the arm of Swire".
 * Instead of threatening to take me up to the ANI and waste their time, why don't your try to add the reference yourself instead of blindly removing content.
 * Take it easy, we're trying to build an encyclopaedia. Best regards Andro611 (talk) 21:38, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

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 * Thank you, and a merry Christmas to you too! Andro611 (talk) 20:00, 25 December 2023 (UTC)

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You really can’t change what a source says and add unsourced
And the Brittanica is not a better source. This is a violation of our sourcing policy and opinions can’t override it. I’m reverting you, please find sources and discuss it on the talk page. Doug Weller talk 20:46, 15 May 2024 (UTC)


 * I fail to see exactly how Britannica is “not a terribly good source”? The Encyclopædia Britannica is a top-tier encyclopedia, and its "No consensus, unclear, or additional considerations apply" classification is solely due to its status as a tertiary source.
 * Franks not existing in 1195 is not an opinion. You don't need to cite that the sky is WP:BLUE. Is there any source other than Allen claiming this? Allen is scholar of African-American studies, not medieval Europe. It could have been a mistake, especially since the book topic has nothing to medieval Europe. Andro611 (talk) 21:17, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
 * It's not a sky is blue issue. Here's a source for Franks in 1185, only 10 years earlier. You seem extremely sure the use of the term Franks was obsolete by that time despite the sources.  Doug Weller  talk 14:15, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
 * It's easy to find Franks mentioned later than even 1195. says 1195, search for Franks  1195 Alarcos. Same search at . Alfonso VIII of Castile has Franks in 1212. Are you going to delete that? Seventh Crusade 1242, Franks participated.  Doug Weller  talk 14:34, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
 * This is not the Crusader states. This is the Reconquista. Franks are a catch all word for the western European population of the Outremer. Andro611 (talk) 16:16, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I didn’t say there was a Frankish Crusader state. I’m saying there are secondary sources saying Franks. Doug Weller  talk 18:01, 16 May 2024 (UTC)