User talk:Andy M. Wang/Archive 3

Dear, Mr.Wang.
I believe that you changed the current principal of Paris District High School incorrectly. Jay Kyle, is not the Principal. Mister Aaron Camp was granted this position early 2015.

Thank you,

Principal Aaron Camp, Paris District High school — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aaroncamp123 (talk • contribs) 18:36, 29 March 2016 (UTC)


 * According to http://www.granderie.ca/schools/pdhs/Pages/default.aspx/, the principle is actually Darren Duff. — Andy W. (talk · contrib) 18:38, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

curious
Hi Andy! I believe you mistook my edits on the blizzard activion page for vandalism, perhaps - before I revert your revert, wanted to ask if you had a reason? (was no edit summary) Earflaps (talk) 21:54, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Very sorry about that; I thought the edit had a misformed ref. Sincere apologies — Andy W. (talk · contrib) 21:54, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Accepted! Feel free to dive in if you'd like to change things, I'm hardly above making mistakes myslef (at times egregious, sadly). Earflaps (talk) 21:55, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

Savakhvakho Dynasty
Hello I dint understand what you added, what thus it mean? Nalanidil (talk) 00:02, 2 April 2016 (UTC)


 * The article has a number of problems. Please consult Wikipedia:Your first article for guidelines. It is very unclear if it meets Wikipedia's guidelines for notablility, and whether there is enough supporting material for the article. — Andy W. (talk · contrib) 00:03, 2 April 2016 (UTC)


 * ok, thank you Nalanidil (talk) 14:40, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

How do I contest "woman mathematicians" as a category of living mathematicians?
Within the discipline such a title would be out of date and offensive, at least to "women mathematicians" like me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.229.185.200 (talk)
 * Replied on your talk — Andy W. (talk · contrib) 02:41, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Would it be possible to survey other female mathematicians in this regard? I understand you don't find this personally offensive, but I do, because it is unclear to me how the gender is relevant to the profession.  It would be ridiculous to specify "male mathematicians," no? Gender does not change the mathematical thinking and work involved to be a mathematician. Moreover, there are simply too many female mathematicians within the discipline for it to be an unusual distinguishing feature. Since this is a difference of opinion between two people, how would we resolve this on a wider scale? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.229.185.200 (talk)
 * You are talking about submitting a CfD. Here is the procedure listed: Wikipedia:Categories for discussion. I'm sorry that I cannot help you further in this; this is not my strong suit, and not exactly my domain. (Replied also on your talk) — Andy W. (talk · contrib) 02:50, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.229.185.200 (talk)

Dakota Ridge High School
Regarding the image that you have edited out of the Dakota Ridge High School page, it is in fact not vandalism, and on behalf of the Dakota Ridge Administration, we kindly request that you consider this.Wikigold1030 (talk) 03:24, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
 * You are probably sockpuppet of User:Hacker6284. The image, as being discussed on the Commons, is a joke image. — Andy W. (talk · contrib) 03:25, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
 * While not a sockpuppet of this user, I urge you to leave this judgement to the admin that will review the matter as a result of the request for deletion made by another user. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikigold1030 (talk • contribs)
 * I understand your concern, and am sorry to have contradicted you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikigold1030 (talk • contribs)
 * I want to further emphasize, though clearly futile, that I am not a sockpuppet of User:Hacker6284. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikigold1030 (talk • contribs)

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recent2.js update
Personal note to myself. Special:Diff/713959684: "[Y]ou may request an edit by using editprotected. But I would ask that you get someone else to check your code before requesting, just to be safe" &mdash; Andy W. (talk · contrib) 17:51, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Stale &mdash; Andy W. (talk · contrib) 06:30, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

Recent Edits to FTI Consulting
Hello, I'm editing the FTI Consulting page and you have undone all of the edits. Can you please explain what in my edits is preventing them from being kept? I understand that they can't be promotional, but I simply tried rewriting an extremely dated introduction, add an accurate timeline of events in the company history, add notable engagements (which many large firms also have), etc. Also wanted to update information regarding number of employees and number of countries. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.81.77.195 (talk) 20:18, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Replied on your talk. &mdash; Andy W. (talk · contrib) 20:21, 7 April 2016 (UTC)

Our Sandbox got some help

 * Haha I think I finally got what you meant. :) &mdash; Andy W. (talk · contrib) 22:26, 8 April 2016 (UTC)

For you

 * Thanks, Kailey! Appreciate it. Happy editing! &mdash; Andy W. (talk · contrib) 04:51, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Oh wow, never did I expect something like this. Much appreciated, thanks :) &mdash; Andy W. (talk · contrib) 18:26, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
 * You're welcome :), – Davey 2010 Talk 19:26, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

Thanq for your openion ,i changed myopenion on this article
"Closing AfD, result was keep (nomination withdrawn)." William Pratt Graham — Preceding unsigned comment added by DODODODO1 (talk • contribs) 18:50, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
 * The AfD has not been properly closed. Please hold off for now, thanks. &mdash; Andy W. (talk · contrib) 18:52, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

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https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Marcelo_Vieira&diff=prev&oldid=715614717 Mihiltren (talk) 23:04, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Replied on your talk. &mdash; Andy W. (talk · contrib) 23:04, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
 * 2nd https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Princess_Sumaya_bint_Hassan&diff=prev&oldid=715615315 Mihiltren (talk) 23:06, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Okay. replied on talk. &mdash; Andy W. (talk · contrib) 23:08, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

AGF is not a suicide pact
Hi. Thank you for reverting this. What makes you call it good faith? It's was made by an account obviously created for the sole purpose of reinserting a non-neutral edit repeatedly made by an IP. (The account was created seven minutes after the disruptive IP was warned it might be blocked.) Bishonen &#124; talk 06:34, 17 April 2016 (UTC).
 * PS. They have now flamed out, after I warned them. I've blocked both the account and the IP. Bishonen &#124; talk 06:53, 17 April 2016 (UTC).
 * I don't remember checking the history on that page, so I was almost certainly unaware of the IP. I also don't know if whatever allegations in question were true or false. Sorry if my summary was confusing, and thanks for the heads up. &mdash; Andy W. (talk · contrib) 07:19, 17 April 2016 (UTC)

Incorrect tense change
Hello

How do you do?

I have conducted a review of your contributions to Windows Mobile article and unfortunately, observed that you had incorrectly changed the tenses. (Please consult with WP:COMPNOW for more details.) For now, I have reverted the article to the last know good state. In the coming hours, I will restore much of your good changes, excluding the tense changes.

Please feel free to communicate.

Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 14:39, 17 April 2016 (UTC)


 * Oh no! Sorry for bringing about extra copyedit work. My edits were definitely made in good faith, and I wasn't aware of WP:COMPNOW then. I'm definitely not as familiar with guidelines in specific areas/topic of WP as I think I am... completely on me. Thanks for restoring the article and letting me know. Cheers, &mdash; Andy W. (talk · contrib) 15:04, 17 April 2016 (UTC)

ANI discussion notice
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 * Ahhh... right, I actually remembered as I was posting, but forgot as I left the page. Sorry, thanks for the heads up. &mdash; Andy W. (talk · contrib) 19:59, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

Can I interest you ..
.. in PILT? It's based on a very old version of AVT, but it has some improvements that may interest you. You are of course welcome to merge any that take your fancy into your own version. Philip Trueman (talk) 16:13, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
 * oooooo thanks for the heads up! I'm taking note. I'll take a look at this in the next few days. :) Thanks, &mdash; Andy W. (talk · contrib) 16:14, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
 * I actually ended up incorporating the entire thing :) Thanks for the pointer. Just FYI, the major differences between mine and yours is that mine does not have cookie behavior, does not have any warning/reporting functionality, and (at recent2.doLine) has a more streamlined (in my opinion only) look to it that puts the "show details" and "rollback" buttons first, a newline after the article that puts user information on a newilne (indented) to keep everything in more predictable positions. Anyway, thanks again, and happy reverting! &mdash; Andy W. (talk · contrib) 20:58, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

Talk pages for users
Hello, be careful here. Please read WP:BLANKING, because as things stand you are the one in breach of policy. Roy Howard Mills (talk) 22:54, 20 April 2016 (UTC) (rm comment by indef blocked user by checkuser)
 * Thanks, yeah, got a bit excited there. Sorry about that. I think there was a time when the policy was otherwise (that time might have been 2007... and I absolutely might be wrong) but thanks for the heads up. I'm still rusty. &mdash; Andy W. (talk · contrib) 23:01, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
 * So I was wrong. The guideline already existed in 2007. It was at worst a misunderstanding of a user talk page policy regarding user behavior, and a breach of guideline by me, but not a 3RR violation that would get me blocked. (This has been good education for me.) Thanks, and happy editing. &mdash; Andy W. (talk · contrib) 23:28, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

Sock
Obvious. But who's the master, I wonder? GABHello! 18:08, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm honestly unsure. Sock? I wasn't aware of sockpuppetry w.r.t this account. &mdash; Andy W. (talk · contrib) 18:10, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
 * I have no idea, just seemed off to me. GABHello! 18:11, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Well, I did choose to participate in the AfD. Does seem off though. &mdash; Andy W. (talk · contrib) 18:17, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Same here. GABHello! 18:21, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Just wondering, how are you finding all of these "Opinion polling" socks? It's very impressive, and I am quite interested. GABHello! 00:14, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
 * I've been patrolling Special:Log/newusers quite incessantly recently. I just connected the socks to the original "Opinion polling" user about 30 minutes ago. It was about 2 nights ago when I found these obscenely long usernames, and they just started popping up. I think the fact that I spotted these and reverted all his edits exacerbated the problem. I think this most recent attack was definitely planned. This guy has attacked Smalljim, Zzuuzz, Oshwah, etc. &mdash; Andy W. (talk · contrib) 00:19, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Ah, figures. I've been doing the same. This guy has too much time on his hands. I think I know a much older master, . Nice work, anyhow. GABHello! 00:20, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

Question. I thought Wikipedia (or at least the English Wikipedia) implemented a user creation policy where you have to specify an email upon registration. I didn't have to do this back in 2005. Has this requirement been removed recently? &mdash; Andy W. (talk · contrib) 00:33, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
 * It's optional now. Why do you ask? GABHello! 00:35, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
 * We wouldn't have this crazy user creation problem if emails weren't optional. Just trying to think of a solution. &mdash; Andy W. (talk · contrib) 00:36, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
 * True. A username filter would be dandy, but that would have too much collateral, probably. Also, I don't think we have them... yet. GABHello! 00:41, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: followed up again with Special:Diff/715985000 &mdash; Andy W. (talk · contrib) 04:23, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
 * There's actually a CBAN proposal up on ANI for this guy, although I think it's sort of unnecessary. It's like the case, where the socks are reverted and blocked as generic vandals instead of socks, and so a ban will only go so far. GABHello! 23:00, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Very interesting, thanks for the note. My opinion from what I know (knowledge of what's possible), the best thing we can do to counter this is to find the socks and block them ASAP, including the ips provided by the proxies. I'm unaware if there's any other way to make a better enforcement. Same goes for the guy who's been spamming the sandbox with obscene images. So yeah, I'd tend to agree that a ban may not serve its purpose. &mdash; Andy W. (talk · contrib) 23:08, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

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 * :) &mdash; Andy W. (talk · contrib) 20:33, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Please don't add new code to highly visible templates/modules without prior discussion/consensus. In short, do not omit all the steps you were previously obliged to do before requesting the an edit to a protected template. Thanks &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:47, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Understood. I followed up on Template talk:Documentation if that was the one you were referring to. The other change you might be referring to is Special:Diff/717456832, which I made after noting on the talk page and after improved testing. Feel free to revert, but I thought it brought the prod template more in-line with the db-meta template. I apologize if these edits were indeed in need of greater consensus. I promise to refrain from such quick edits from now on. &mdash; Andy W. (talk · contrib) 15:34, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes, both edits were made within an hour of your first talk page announcement. I have no problem with either of these edits, but I would advise caution and generally giving other editors a chance to comment before making changes ;) Regards &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 16:11, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

Requesting protection of a page in private
I intend to [text removed] as my signature. I have read WP:SIG very carefully and understand the implications of not substituting signatures. As probably known under "Preferences", I am actually unable to keep templates not substituted because the system automatically puts  in front of it.

I'm requesting template protection (and not making this request in public view) for safety reasons. (edit I posted at WP:RFPP before I realized that the Wikipedia page itself is transcluded on everyone's dashboards, so I reverted.) Although the reason would be ("highly visible template"), I deem that, for a signature template, it meets High-risk.

The reason I'm doing this is to consolidate the appearances of my signature across my various subpages. (I list the transclusions of the page out in full automatically on the page itself.) Please let me know if this is possible. Thanks!

&mdash; Andy W. (talk · contrib) 00:12, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Looked at the page High-risk templates, and this page meets the third point: "It is substituted extremely frequently on an ongoing basis". Thanks. &mdash; Andy W. (talk &middot; contrib) 00:23, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
 * pardon my hastiness, or if this cut across a few lines of legislation, but would you able to fulfill this request? &mdash; Andy W. (talk &middot; contrib) 00:43, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Hmm, I don't think that this page counts as a high-risk template under any reasonable interpretation. The "frequently substituted" clause is intended for things like vandalism warnings and Afd - things that are used project-wide. You can have things in your userspace semi-protected or fully protected, but I don't think template protection would be appropriate in this case. There is a kludgy way of working around this, though. If you put your signature in a page ending in .js (e.g. [text removed] ) then MediaWiki interprets it to be a JavaScript page and only allows you and administrators to edit it, but you are still allowed to put normal wiki markup in it and substitute it. This ability may be removed when the developers get round to cleaning up user .js pages, but for now it works. — Mr. Stradivarius  ♪ talk ♪ 00:57, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the quick reply. Don't know if I want to put it in a .js... feels like too much of a work-around. I'd be okay with full protection for now, actually, and I'd like to request it. (If I change my mind about substituting, I might end up requesting unprotection and submitting the page to WP:CSD, but that's in the future.) &mdash; Andy W. (talk &middot; contrib) 01:04, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Actually thanks for waiting. I change my mind. &mdash; Andy W. (talk &middot; contrib) 01:12, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

hi, would you be able to apply indefinite template protection on [text removed] per WP:UPROT and this discussion? (I retracted my RFPP to keep it a bit more private to be safe) Thanks &mdash; Andy W. (talk · contrib) 20:36, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
 * ✅ I don't think I'll get in trouble for this &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  20:44, 1 May 2016 (UTC)

Template:User info
Hello. Looks likw your edit in this template has caused problems. Eurohunter (talk) 20:09, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Undone. What was the issue? — Andy W. ( talk  · ctb) 20:10, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Wow, looks like it's everywhere. 1, 2, etc. Doesn't look like it's an issue with my change though. — Andy W. ( talk  · ctb) 20:16, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I think there must have been a design change to  or something. The issue was not due to my change. I've removed   from the template. — Andy W. ( talk  · ctb) 20:20, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Ineresting. Looks like nothing changed in Template:DISPLAYTITLE and it isn't also by your edit in Template:User info. Eurohunter (talk) 20:30, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
 * The template DISPLAYTITLE is just a wrapper around the magic word . While the template had no update, the magic word did somewhere recently in the MediaWiki backend. The English language warning is also happening on the Spanish Wikipedia, for instance. Very interesting indeed. Thanks for alerting me about this! — Andy W. ( talk  · ctb) 20:35, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Eurohunter (talk) 20:39, 19 May 2016 (UTC)

Edit request for Ciara discography
The link is from April 2015 - it has Jackie because that was Ciara's next album at the time. You can see the next column says "Last Major Release" and it has the date 7/9/2013 which is when the album "Ciara" was released in the US. The next column says First week sales (for the last release), which you an see is 59,000, which is what "Ciara" sold first week. The next column has sales to date for "Ciara" which is 208,000.--99.57.170.190 (talk) 16:30, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Okay. — Andy W. ( talk  · ctb) 17:06, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

List of unaccredited institutions of higher education
Note. section title shortened

Hi There,

It looks like one of the editors reverted your edit. Can you check this out? The edit had sourced information but it was reverted for no reason. Thanks for your help 2605:E000:6009:9700:9C85:7B05:F36F:E028 (talk) 01:47, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
 * and reverted the additions here and here respectively. They did not revert without a reason, citing WP:PRIMARY and material being promotional cruft, with which I will not argue at this point. — Andy W. ( talk  · ctb) 01:53, 26 May 2016 (UTC)

Captain America
Sorry about that, you were right. Extended confirm does require more than just admin opinion. Either way, it's been corrected I think. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 21:19, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
 * No problem! I do hope WP:EC-P gets consensus on community use soon though. — Andy W. ( talk  · ctb) 21:21, 26 May 2016 (UTC)

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Good faith my foot...
Look at the contribs for User:70.187.77.178 and then tell me that this was reversion of "good faith removal" of an AfD template. The fact that the user took the AfD out of the log might say otherwise, hmmm? MSJapan (talk) 01:48, 2 June 2016 (UTC)
 * As soon as I made that Twinkle edit, I realized there might be a problem. I honestly don't mean any wrongdoing, and if my edit offended you, please forgive me. The editor's sole June 2 edit after my reversion looks to be productive, at least. Thanks for the notice. I clearly need to understand the limits of WP:AGF a bit better. — Andy W. ( talk  · ctb) 02:04, 2 June 2016 (UTC)
 * In my experience countering unproductive edits, I've seen some absolutely insane edits from persistent long-term sockpuppets clearly meant to disrupt / gross-out / make a point. I saw this edit and assumed a newbie editor with no knowledge of policy on AfD, so I went a bit easy on the automatic Twinkle reversion. But again, thanks for the note. This is not the first time someone's pointed out my over-extending AGF. — Andy W. ( talk  · ctb) 02:13, 2 June 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm not offended in the slightest; I'm concerned only because that reversion isn't listed as a reversion of a problematic edit by an IP. My overall thought is that once the AfD closes, the socking going on will also cease, but if I have to SPI afterwards, I'll have to explain that diff instead of just tossing it out there.
 * When it comes to IPs, I always pay attention to the edit history; generally, they're either full of vandalism or full of SPA edits, because people who legitimately want to contribute to WP will make an account at some point. People don't hide behind IPs, as a general rule, unless they have a need to, and that's usually not due to censorship, etc.  999% of the time, it's to avoid being tied to a username and being caught doing something they shouldn't be, like vote-stacking, disruptive editing, COI editing, and so on and so forth.  My AGF is very short, because assuming everyone is naive is half the problem - we give people too much rope, and then have to clean up the mess. MSJapan (talk) 02:57, 2 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. I've been in a good mood after taking a small wikibreak / break in general, and currently have a bit more "good faith" than typical. That'll go away soon, believe me, once I "remember" all the not-so-pleasant aspects of maintenance around here. In my view, cleaning up messes is part of the work, I don't think it's for everyone -- those who do do it are among the most responsible and admirable around here. If need be, I'll gladly explain this diff in any investigations. Thanks again for the note, and happy editing. — Andy W. ( talk  · ctb) 03:34, 2 June 2016 (UTC)

Peasant Girl, spinning
Hi Andy,

Can you help me to understand why you changed the title of "Peasant Girl, spinning" to "Peasant Girl Spinning"? "Peasant Girl, spinning" is the original title assigned to the work by its author, Elihu Vedder. It is a convention is he often used in naming works in the late 1860s, and is also the title and orthographic format he uses in both his autobiography, as cited in the article, and in the inventory of his estate. What you have changed it is historically and art-historically inaccurate. As an Art Historian with a PhD on this particular artist, I feel the artist's own naming conventions for his own works should be adhered to. Sotheby's did, when they sold "Roman Model, posing", and so did the American museum which owns "Etruscan Girl, sleeping". Please can you kindly change it back to the original art-historically correct title used by the artist himself? I am very happy to discuss the matter further with you and I do appreciate your good intentions! Thanks! George — Preceding unsigned comment added by Melonplace (talk • contribs) 05:02, 2 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Here is a revision prior to the move: Special:Permalink/710506193. I noticed that the article article refers to the work as Peasant Girl Spinning in multiple places, not "Peasant Girl, spinning", nor or "Peasant girl spinning". For example: Given it's date of 1867, however, Peasant Girl Spinning appears to be the earliest and the original example of these. This seemed to be a clear inconsistency. I intended to make it consistent with the move. Before the move, I attempted to check elsewhere for a reliable spelling of the work. 1 and 2 and 3 may not be 100% reliable, but suggest the spelling that the article has right now. Is the source for the spelling "Peasant Girl, spinning" reliably in Vedder's biography? Do you have an online link? I'll gladly move the article again if the spelling is absolutely clear. — Andy W. ( talk  · ctb) 05:15, 2 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Something on the side: I noticed you essentially published your article to the mainspace without an indication of a draft review. You removed the draft notice from the still existing Draft:Peasant Girl Spinning before you eventually did a cut-and-paste into the current article. This may need mitigation. — Andy W. ( talk  · ctb) 05:44, 2 June 2016 (UTC)

RE:Navbox mammal hybrids
Is there a general template of hybrid animals? --186.84.46.227 (talk) 04:17, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Will reply on your talk. — Andy W. ( talk  · ctb) 04:19, 3 June 2016 (UTC)

Category:Lists of the Statutory Instruments of Australia
Oh yes, Andy W. those page need help, thanks for the heads up. redirect is probably a good idea (for the moment at least!) Deathlibrarian (talk) 06:27, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Great. I'll keep you and Rekowo updated when I get to it. — Andy W. ( talk  · ctb) 07:07, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
 * So I took another look at the articles in the category. I honestly don't think I have enough context (politically, historically, etc) to be confident in the content merges. Perhaps might be able to help with it, but for now, I'm holding off on making changes. — Andy W. ( talk  · ctb) 01:10, 8 June 2016 (UTC)

6/6/16
Thanks for flagging my redirects for deletion, Andy W., can I flag pages myself? -- Finnh54 (talk) 11:33, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes, you absolutely can, if you'd like. Among the redirects you created, these 4:, , , still exist and are being discussed here. If you want them deleted, you can either post at the discussion, or by adding   at the top of those pages. — Andy W. ( talk  · ctb) 14:50, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
 * , if you were interested in looking into other tags, check out WP:TC, WP:TDEL, WP:TMAIN, WP:TM/G, among others. Hope that helps. — Andy W. ( talk  · ctb) 15:14, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

Discussion at Templates for discussion/Log/2016 June 6
You are invited to join the discussion at Templates for discussion/Log/2016 June 6. Anarchyte  (work  &#124; talk )   10:55, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Note to self, it's at Templates for discussion/Log/2016 June 20. — Andy W. ( talk  · ctb) 00:45, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

Re:June 2016
Hello, Andy M. Wang. I want to reply back, and say thank you for sending me a warning about a manual page move by redirection but by title correction. I had no idea that the move tab was still up along with the others. I wasn't fully paying any attention. My apologies for acting out in such an abusive manner on Wikipedia. I let this happen like many times in a row, but I swear never to let it happen again, or else I am banned for good. Good patience, from yours truly... DBrown SPS (talk) 03:20, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi, thanks for the really quick reply, and no problem. It actually seems to happen quite a lot, as there is a very big backlog of history merges here. Don't worry too much. The page has been tagged so an admin should be able to take care of it. Thanks, and happy editing. — Andy W. ( talk  · ctb) 03:23, 8 June 2016 (UTC)

Changing Title of "Cloudy Olive Oil"
Hi,

If you look on the talk page for this entry, you'll see that I proposed changing the name way back in 2013, to deafening silence. Should I just move it as you propose, taking silence as consent? And do I have privileges to do so? Is the method idiot-proof, and will existing wiki links automatically redirect?Mikalra (talk) 17:04, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi. For the page Cloudy olive oil, I think Unfiltered olive oil is probably a better term. The template {{subst:Requested move}} could have been used for more visibility at the time, but yes, it does look undisputed for about 3 years now. |editcount&action=query&ususers=Mikalra You have move permissions, since you are at least autoconfirmed, even extendedconfirmed.
 * At the top of the page, near the "View history" (or "history") tab, there is a "More" tab that gives you the option to move the page. Specify a reason (maybe you can cite WP:SILENCE) and make sure the talk page moves with it. Existing redirects will not fix themselves, but Special:WhatLinksHere/Cloudy olive oil doesn't seem like there are any article-namespace redirects (except the target), so no double redirects need fixing. Don't think this would be a controversial move, so I say go for it. Hope this helps! — Andy W. ( talk  · ctb) 17:23, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Mikalra (talk) 18:01, 8 June 2016 (UTC)

Formatting on Template:No footnotes
I saw you updated the formatting in the sandbox, and one of the things I noticed was that you moved the bolding so that it no longer surrounds the suffix when. Your edit summary indicated you were simply going off of the formatting at More footnotes, which is fine. I also like streamlining templates. The thing is that in April, I made an edit request requesting that  be changed to. This was just because I felt that

This section about a living person

looked better than

This section about a living person

That is of course my fault, for not remembering to make the same edit request on More footnotes. Assuming you don't have any opinions on the matter, would you like to fix that for the both of them? –Compassionate727 (T·C) 16:46, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Do you know many other templates are affected by this change? Yes, we should definitely keep No footnotes and More footnotes semantically in sync when possible. I'm currently inclined to wait an hour or two, because a change just went in for one of them, and I'd rather not make unnecessary processing on 80000+ pages for now. Just wanting to play this safe. — Andy W. ( talk  · ctb) 16:51, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
 * That's cool. I'm not going anywhere. –Compassionate727 (T·C) 16:56, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Format updated here and here per your April edit request. Cheers, — Andy W. ( talk  · ctb) 19:23, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks! –Compassionate727 (T·C) 19:25, 12 June 2016 (UTC)

Module:Reply to usage
Hi Andy. I noticed that you changed the High-risk template on Module:Reply to/doc from 125,000+ to 64,000+. When you did this, did you take into account the usage of the various aliases for Reply to? By my count:

--Ahecht (TALK PAGE ) 19:34, 13 June 2016 (UTC) PAGE ]]) 19:41, 13 June 2016 (UTC) PAGE ]]) 19:56, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
 * I believe these aliases are all redirects, which means that their counts will always be strictly less than Reply to, since a usage of Re increases the count of Reply to by 1. Correct me if I'm wrong, but right now, I don't have much doubt about 64000+. (Also note that the sum of the counts of the redirects is also strictly less than that of Reply to.) — Andy W. ( talk  · ctb) 19:37, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Does the transclusion count tool take redirects into account? I assumed it didn't since the sum of all the redirects, 70887, is greater than 64285. --Ahecht ([[User_talk:Ahecht|'''TALK
 * I'm honestly stumped, but I still don't think that's right. It could be due to caching and we're not seeing a live number. For example, I was under the impression that people use Talk quotation to make that green text, but almost always type tq when doing so. "Tq" has 11248, while "Talk quotation" has 11948. But back to "Reply to", there's good evidence for at least 64000, so I'd stick with that number. Keep me in the loop if you have other details. Can we ask about this at VPT actually? — Andy W. ( talk  · ctb) 19:54, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. VPT sounds like a good idea. Did you want to take it there or should I? --Ahecht ([[User_talk:Ahecht|'''TALK
 * Asked at VPT. :) — Andy W. ( talk  · ctb) 20:04, 13 June 2016 (UTC)

List of works by Max Reger
I see you wanted to challenge the move, right? Why not contact SSTflyer, who performed the move? --George Ho (talk) 19:54, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
 * It troubles me a bit, but I'm inclined to just leave it for now. As Gerda Arendt said on the live RM, they don't really have time for this. Since a move already happened, I stand by my reluctant consistency support. Thanks for the ping. — Andy W. ( talk  · ctb) 19:57, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

England Squash and Racketball
Hello. If you check the edit history you will see I have not cut-and-paste anything, so I would appreciate it if you would withdraw your objection at WP:RM/TR. Cheers, 2.27.75.26 (talk) 22:50, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Will reply on your talk. — Andy W. ( talk  · ctb) 22:52, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

Page mover granted
Hello, Andy M. Wang. Your account has been [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=rights&user=&page=User%3A granted] the "extendedmover" user right, either following a request for it or demonstrating familiarity with working with article names and moving pages. You are now able to rename pages without leaving behind a redirect, and move subpages when moving the parent page(s).

Please take a moment to review Page mover for more information on this user right, especially the criteria for moving pages without leaving redirect. Please remember to follow post-move cleanup procedures and make link corrections where necessary, including broken double-redirects when  is used. This can be done using Special:WhatLinksHere. It is also very important that no one else be allowed to access your account, so you should consider taking a few moments to secure your password. As with all user rights, be aware that if abused, or used in controversial ways without consensus, your page mover status can be revoked.

Useful links:
 * Requested moves
 * Category:Articles to be moved, for article renaming requests awaiting action.

If you do not want the page mover right anymore, post here, or just let me know. Thank you, and happy editing! Biblio (talk) 00:42, 16 June 2016 (UTC)

How to fix DISPLAYTITLE errors
You mentioned working on DISPLAYTITLE in your first Page Mover request. Is my edit here the right idea for how to fix these? By the way, your explanation of how to do the Driven move request seems very thorough. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 02:41, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
 * There was a recent change, again, that suppresses the red error upon view, but shows it in preview/edit mode. In the current category, I currently see 0 articles with DISPLAYTITLE issues, so I typically leave existing errors alone.
 * For that userpage you mentioned, I think it's okay. In my experience, removing DISPLAYTITLE errors depends on your use case. Sometimes, the DISPLAYTITLE simply needs a tweak for italics. Albums, ships, etc, are often italicized, so there's not a fixed formula. Here are examples of a removal and a fix. In the example you gave, the DISPLAYTITLE error is due to some tricky DISPLAYTITLE magic happening at Infobox ship begin. A fix here is to use its param display title and set it to a valid string.
 * FYI, I personally have not gone and fixed other users' userpages yet. I've mostly stuck with articles and templates, and occasionally the Wikipedia namespace. Hope this helps! — Andy W. ( talk  · ctb) 02:51, 16 June 2016 (UTC)

Minor thing
But when you're doing round-robin moves, please try and keep an eye out to keep talk page redirects. That actually sounds a bit vague, but what I mean is when you're switching A to B and B doesn't have a talk page you'll actually end up leaving the old talk page of A as a redlink when it will probably have incoming links. is an example; I'd suggest just checking after each move to see if you need to create a new redirect for the old talk page location. Hope that makes sense and I appreciate the work you're doing. Cheers, Jenks24 (talk) 12:12, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi Jenks24, that makes a lot of sense. If you think it's worth it, I may make a note of that at Page mover. Thanks for the insight! — Andy W. ( talk  · ctb) 14:56, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Good idea. As a new tool we're still developing absolute practice on how to use it, I'd never thought of this all through the proposal process. Cheers, Jenks24 (talk) 15:08, 16 June 2016 (UTC)

El Monstero orphan status
Hi, I realize this might not be a big deal, but thought I'd address it. You're use of the orphan tag on the El Monstero page is, I believe, in error. According to the Orphan article I read:

Criteria[edit] An article is orphaned if no other articles link to it. It is recommended to only place the tag if the article has zero incoming links from other articles. Although a single, relevant incoming link is sufficient to remove the tag, three or more is ideal and will help ensure the article is reachable by readers.[1]

The following pages do not count as incoming links:

Disambiguation pages Redirects and Soft redirects ...except that incoming links to the redirects do count Discussion pages of articles Wikipedia pages outside of article space The following pages do count as incoming links:

Any article in mainspace except those specifically excluded above List of... articles Set indexes

The El Monstero article is linked to in the article for the band Stir, specifically in the section labeled 'The End of Stir'. Please correct me if i'm wrong. Thanks!Asml8d (talk) 20:04, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
 * I checked Special:WhatLinksHere/El Monstero, and there appear to be links now, so I did just remove the orphan tag. Cheers. — Andy W. ( talk  · ctb) 20:05, 16 June 2016 (UTC)

Right on! Thanks again! Asml8d (talk) 20:06, 16 June 2016 (UTC)

On your MfDs
Would CSD U2 apply to all of these user talk pages you're nominating? —Compassionate727 (T·C) 19:36, 18 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes, but I thought I'd elaborate on the nominations rather than apply a CSD with rationale in these cases. There are more examples of CSD U2s at Special:PrefixIndex/User talk:User: that I didn't nominate for different reasons. ANI's aware, and I'm seeing whether other admins will respond at the moment. — Andy W. ( talk  · ctb) 19:37, 18 June 2016 (UTC)

Template talk:Rfd2
Hi Andy. Thank you for your very detailed close of Template talk:Rfd2 in response to this closure request at WP:ANRFC! I hope you continue your good work at WP:ANRFC if you have the time and inclination. Cunard (talk) 23:00, 19 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your message. This was honestly one of the first ones I did at the venue. I actually found the RfC while browsing through templates related to XfD processes, and since I recently made an update to RMassist, I believed I had a very good context into the problem. I've added ANRFC to my list to look into occasionally, though I can't make any guarantees... but thanks for the note. Cheers, — Andy W. ( talk  · ctb) 23:08, 19 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Template talk:Rfd2 was a very good close and is especially impressive for being one of your first closes at WP:ANRFC. Thank you for adding WP:ANRFC to your list to look at occasionally. ANRFC functions the best with a wider base of closers determining the consensus in discussions. Occasional closers are welcome and appreciated. :) Best, Cunard (talk) 23:15, 19 June 2016 (UTC)

Move request about New York (disambiguation)
Your comment at RMTR disappeared when I declined a move request. This is not a reflection on whatever you said, just that, there was no place to put your comment after the decline. If you still have a concern, you might contact User:Wbm1058 who probably knows more about the issue. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 02:30, 21 June 2016 (UTC)
 * I saw the decline. No concern at all. Thanks for the message though — Andy W. ( talk  · ctb) 02:31, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

Catholicism and Freemasonry histmerge
It looked like we needed this to also point at Christianity and Freemasonry for a merge as well, or no? As I had mentioned, it seems like the material went in two different directions at the same time. Also, can we speedy all the pagemove redirects between Papal ban of Freemasonry and the current Position of the Catholic Church on Freemasonry since there's a direct one there now? Some of them only lasted 30 minutes, and absolutely none of them should have anything pointing at them. MSJapan (talk) 23:34, 22 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Was this page sprung off the original Catholicism and Freemasonry? I honestly can't tell from the page history. I've pinged and  about this mess of an issue; you can check his talk page. If you have more context into the issue, feel free to elaborate. I hope all this gets resolved soon. — Andy W. ( talk  · ctb) 23:37, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

User:Hughesia76
User:Hughesia76 did 3 reverts in 24 h, I see.
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jerry_Crawford_%28lawyer%29&type=revision&diff=726112652&oldid=724740278
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jerry_Crawford_(lawyer)&diff=next&oldid=726112776
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jerry_Crawford_(lawyer)&diff=next&oldid=726112967

--Wuerzele (talk) 01:42, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I actually did see this when it happened. It seems to me that the user is removing the added content which puts the lawyer in a slightly controversial light. I opted not to get involved further. It's edit warring, but it's not a blatant 3RR vio. — Andy W. ( talk  · ctb) 04:24, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

Removenotice
I missed it :P do you have the link to the discussion on ? thank you. Mlpearc ( open channel ) 18:56, 25 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Sure. The link is Village pump (proposals)/Archive 131. (Side note,, thanks for undoing a few instances of removalnotice. Absolutely on me, and I'll never let that happen again.) — Andy W. ( talk  · ctb) 19:00, 25 June 2016 (UTC)

RMpmc
I've made a little proposal at Template talk:RMpmc, and since all this is still so new, I'd like your input. What's in your palette?  Paine  16:53, 26 June 2016 (UTC)

PENISS Prize
Hi Andy

* To present this award to others, simply type   on their talk page, and then sign and date your post.

See, random acts of kindness do not go unrewarded. Cheers. --  Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  05:32, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

Edit notice on Syrian civil war
In the latest Syrian civil war capitalization debate, thanks for pointing out that the edit notice should be moved and amended. I can't do that job which is restricted to admins and template editors. Could you kindly handle this? Incidentally, I think I'll apply to the template editor right, as I'm doing some collaborative work in that space already. No interest in adminship though! — JFG talk 04:14, 4 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Done. Thanks for the ping! — Andy W. ( talk  · ctb) 07:52, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

Invitation to join the Ten Year Society
Dear Andy,

I'd like to extend a cordial invitation to you to join the Ten Year Society, an informal group for editors who've been participating in the Wikipedia project for ten years or more.

Best regards, —  Scott  •  talk  12:04, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

Amending RfC listings
Please note that edits are not just unnecessary (the redirect takes you to the appropriate page) but pointless, because Legobot simply puts the page back to how it was before. Editing bot-maintained pages is almost always a fruitless task. -- Red rose64 (talk) 19:24, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Apologies. Yeah I did see what happened afterwards. I removed the rfcid so that the bot could re-tag it with the correct link at 20:00, but feel free to undo if this wasn't needed. — Andy W. ( talk  · ctb) 19:26, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Yep, removing a rfcid always forces Legobot to completely rebuild the relevant listing entries. -- Red rose64 (talk) 19:29, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Legobot works very quickly. I made at 11:01:00 and Legobot  at 11:01:18 - 18 seconds or 22 edits later. -- Red rose64 (talk) 11:16, 6 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Wow, that was good timing :) — Andy W. ( talk  · ctb) 15:00, 6 July 2016 (UTC)

Human mistake.
Template_talk:Sandbox_heading --95.49.109.237 (talk) 21:18, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done — Andy W. ( talk  · ctb) 21:19, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

Untitled
Do you know how to have me show up on google like Rj does — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.77.230.38 (talk) 09:33, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
 *  (Note, referring to RJ (rapper), edited by 107.77.229.73, 107.77.227.230, 107.77.231.68 and Alrahimwright around 9–11 July 2016)  — Andy W. ( talk  · ctb) 16:47, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
 *  Note: Alrahimofficial  — Andy W. ( talk  · ctb) 22:55, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

Metalder movie
Dragon Ball: Sleeping Princess in Devil's Castle, Saint Seiya: The Movie and the film version of Hikari Sentai Maskman all say july 18 1987 with the metalder movie on their respective pages. Also, Shadow light fighters "are" a group of grunts, not "is". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.35.180.106 (talk) 19:42, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done — Andy W. ( talk  · ctb) 20:08, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

Other metalder stuff
The 17th episode aired on july 13, 1987 while the 18th one aired on july 20th. The movie was released on July 18th between the two episodes. I think it's important for that information to be up there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Richard moffet (talk • contribs) 14:09, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
 * X mark.svg Not done for several reasons. 1. I suggest you make the request at the page's talk instead. 2. Additions/changes to Choujinki Metalder should be backed by verifiable reliable sources. 3. Your suggestions don't look time-critical. If your additions are correct, note that the page's protection expires in October, at which time, if you're still not autoconfirmed at that time, you'd be able to edit it then. — Andy W. ( talk  · ctb) 15:53, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

Proof that Metalder's movie is between episodes 17 & 18.
http://tokucentral.com/episodes/eps-metalder.htm http://www.tv.com/shows/metal-heroes/critical-mai-hurry-one-eyed-dragon-topgunder-juudai-na-mai-kyuusoku-katame-no-doragon-topgunder-1243370/ (17) http://www.tv.com/shows/metal-heroes/mais-secret-information-the-poolsides-trap-mai-no-himitsu-jouhou-puuru-saido-no-torappu-1243371/ (18) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.78.54.230 (talk) 17:24, 24 July 2016 (UTC)


 * I've just looked at those three links. I can't see where any of them says that the movie is between episodes 17 & 18: can anyone point out to me where they do so? Also, even if they do say that, www.tv.com (which accepts reader contributions) is certainly not a reliable source, and it looks to me very doubtful whether tokucentral.com is either. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 10:11, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

Again
Sorry, but this has happened again. Again no one reacts, but when it comes to remove something against Serbian nationalistic stand they are very quick  213.202.111.38 (talk) 12:21, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
 * See Special:Diff/731684524/731948820. I suggest reaching out to the user who made the edit,, and about the RfC from 2014. Otherwise, I don't have much context. — Andy W. ( talk  · ctb) 16:43, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
 * I tried, it didn't work, so i had reached you since you are familiar with the context since you have already restored the consensus once. The article and the talk page is protected so I'm catching other users. Vujkovica brdo was my 1st choice, you second, and if you don't want to revert to established consensus, I'll have to find someone other. Funny how simple it is to edit in Serbian nationalistic claims and how hard it is to remove them, even with rfc that had established the consensus. 141.138.55.81 (talk) 21:21, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Given that this has apparently become a contentious area and some sockpuppetry has occurred here, I'd like to stay out of this for now. I suggest making another request on the talk page, which will definitely get visibility. — Andy W. ( talk  · ctb) 21:24, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Yeah, if you didn't notice, the talk page is protected. The case is simple. Consensus exists. One editor had edited against it. I made a request. You reverted him. Now another one had done the same. I can't make a request. Ok thanks for your help. 141.138.55.81 (talk) 23:06, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Didn't notice, that's on me. Looks like the reason Talk:Nikola Tesla is semiprotected is to prevent sockpuppets of blocked or banned users from editing it until August 24. Then I suggest Requests for page protection. I'd suggest making the request fairly comprehensive, citing the RfC, the reason why "Serbian Orthodox" is incorrect, who has performed the edit against consensus, etc. — Andy W. ( talk  · ctb) 23:11, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Too much work. I'll leave it for now (although I'm prone to changing opinions) to serve as example how to successfully push a certain pov, against the consensus. Although I don't think anyone will get it, when you after you already reverted once and after my whole effort here haven't.89.164.232.66 (talk) 02:12, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

Comilla STOLport?
Why is this article even listed at Comilla STOLport? Should it not be moved to Comilla Airport?

Regards, 27.115.113.102 (talk) 05:04, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done Looking at Airports in Bangladesh, a number of "STOL" airports are titled with Airport, so I've moved the page. — Andy W. ( talk  · ctb) 16:36, 3 August 2016 (UTC)

Template color
Thank you for fixing the color for Texas State Antiquities Landmark (TSAL) on Designation/text. One more color fix: Are you able to fix the color of the TSAL bordered version on Template:Designation/Supported designations/United States? Fortguy (talk) 03:36, 9 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done with Special:Diff/733637190. Cheers, ping if there are any remaining issues. — Andy W. ( talk  · ctb) 04:17, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

The RM at Talk:Passion (Christianity)
I didn't notice anyone actually objecting to Passion of Jesus. I think the discussion could have been read as having a consensus to support that title. —BarrelProof (talk) 03:16, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Sounds fair... thanks for the ping. I'll act on this in ~3 hours with my main account. — Andymw2 · t · ctb 03:38, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done as suggested — Andy W. ( talk  · ctb) 05:08, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Agreed (as proposer of that). Thanks, both! Johnbod (talk) 10:45, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

Muhammad Usman (cricketer)
Hi Andy. Thanks for sorting that mess out!  Lugnuts  Dick Laurent is dead 08:14, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
 * No problem! (Though RMs typically last a week, editors tried c&ps to the new title and you were the creator who db-moved the target, so I gauged it as backed up with enough support) Cheers, — Andy W. ( talk  · ctb) 15:06, 21 August 2016 (UTC)

Move of James Yap (basketball, born 1993)
The move recommendation to James Yap (basketball, born 1993) had an error. This person lived from 1933–2003. • Gene93k (talk) 02:51, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
 * My neglect to double-check the contents of the article page itself. Sorry, yes the request should have stated "1933". A move to "James Yap (basketball, born 1933)" is probably warranted now...? — Andy W. ( talk  · ctb) 02:57, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
 * I'll act on this again, this time to 1933, which was the suggester's intent. — Andy W. ( talk  · ctb) 03:01, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

WP:JR moves
Re, I've been following along behind with the post-move copy edits for the moves I request, and it's my understanding that the other one or two editors working on this are doing the same. There's no need for you to do it when it requires no special user right. ― Mandruss  &#9742;  03:40, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Understood, thanks. I've had a (probably good) habit of performing Post-move cleanup every time I personally do a move myself, whether technical or not. I'm also aware of double-redirect bots, but per WP:2R, I've also gone out of my way to correct the double redirects immediately, because I technically make them myself. I personally don't mind continuing the cleanup I think is helpful, but please reply here again with an explicit "no" if you want me to stop doing this. — Andy W. ( talk  · ctb) 03:44, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
 * No objection if you want to do it, just trying to minimize the load on a limited resource (you). As for double redirects, I don't even know what they are, how they are fixed, or whether I have the power to fix them. But if there's a bot that will fix them within a reasonable amount of time, I feel my time is better spent elsewhere. &#8213; Mandruss  &#9742;  03:57, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Mandruss, thanks, no problem :) — Andy W. ( talk  · ctb) 04:13, 23 August 2016 (UTC)

Fc Ungheni
Hello,yes i wanted to add FC or CF Ungheni to 2016–17 Moldovan National Division but without succes.if you can help ,will be great. I actually can't add it to 3 sections First and second round, Third round and Attendances. Still the club that does not exist for 5 years targets. This club has nothing to do with the team FC Ungheni.is the same like Man City and Man Utd.thanks for help12:59, 23 August 2016 (UTC)Kolya77 (talk)

Update.Also i ca'nt add FC Ungheni to the results section on the page 2015–16 Moldovan "A" Division.Kolya77 (talk) 13:23, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
 * I believe this is controlled by Template:Fb team CF Ungheni. I made a change just know. Ping if there are still issues. — Andy W. ( talk  · ctb) 14:28, 23 August 2016 (UTC)

Thanks.it's ok now Kolya77 (talk) 17:01, 23 August 2016 (UTC)

Frank
I'm trying to move an article which should clearly be moved.

Would you mind explaining why you removed the deletion. Am I breaking some rule?&#42;Treker (talk) 20:06, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
 * The specific moves that I believe you're trying to make is Punisher → Frank Castle, and Frank Castle → Frank Castle (sprinter). This was not what was specified at the requested move at Talk:Frank Castle. If you mentioned that you think Punisher meets WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, perhaps that RM would have proceeded fine. Are you suggesting these moves? If so, start another requested move, i.e. {{subst:Requested move}} that suggests these set of 2 moves. And wait a week for consensus. (Personally it's unclear to me whether Punisher is the primary topic.) — Andy W. ( talk  · ctb) 20:10, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
 * I had no idea how to move an article, it wasn't me who opened the move request. I'm mostly upset about the fact that it was closed so soon, I've seen movie discussions be open for a year. Anyone who searches for Frank Castle will find that 99% percent of the results will concern the Punisher. Doesn't matter anyway I figured out how to move it on my own.&#42;Treker (talk) 20:16, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
 * , see Talk:Frank Castle. I've nominated the moves for you on your behalf. Please wait a week, and perhaps Punisher will be moved with consensus to Frank Castle. — Andy W. ( talk  · ctb) 20:18, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you but why do I need consensus now, why even have the ability as an autoconfirmed user to move an article if I'm just going to need a discussion anyway? This is the most work I've ever had to do to get something done on wikipedia.&#42;Treker (talk) 20:23, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
 * You would not have been able to move Punisher to Frank Castle because the resulting redirect "Frank Castle" would be pointing to "Frank Castle (sprinter)", and you cannot move over a redirect that does not point to your original target. It's just the way the software is configured. In my own assessment, this might have been an uncontroversial request. Special:WhatLinksHere/Frank Castle would need to be cleaned up as well, and it worth giving this move proposal more visibility so people familiar with post-move cleanup may get a chance to disambiguate and correct links, etc. Thanks for your patience. — Andy W. ( talk  · ctb) 20:26, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you but I want to make it clear that I don't want to move the Punisher article to Frank Castle, I want to make Frank castle redirect to the Punisher article. Like Sinatra redirects to Frank Sinatra and all other uses are at Sinatra disambiguation. Maybe I shous convayed that better.&#42;Treker (talk) 20:39, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Corrected as you specified. WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT is probably what you specify. — Andy W. ( talk  · ctb) 20:42, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Ok. Thanks a lot. This is the first move discussion I've taken part of and inexperienced and I feel really lost.&#42;Treker (talk) 20:45, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Hey no problem. At least the request seems to be set up now. I'm not planning on watching the RM, but if there are any issues or concerns, feel free to ping me again. — Andy W. ( talk  · ctb) 20:56, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks again. Really appreciate it.

pageswap
Thanks for the great script. I'm just getting started with round-robin moves and this simplifies things a lot. clpo13(talk) 23:11, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

Thanks. I advertised it at WP:PMR as well. No such user (talk) 11:27, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Agreed, excellent script. I've been wanting something like this for some time now and this script works perfectly. Thanks so much for taking the time to make it.  Omni Flames ( talk ) 11:55, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Ditto, ditto! What a time-saver, many thanks, Andy. — Sam Sailor 12:08, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Face-smile.svg — Andy W. ( talk  · ctb) 14:30, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

Problem...
Talk:Jay_Z_albums_discography - looking at the history, User:Jax 0677 started the topic as a signed request, did not publicize the request, came back a few months later, and split the page. That's not appropriate for an established artist discography page. Can we revert the splits, or is this an RM tech item? MSJapan (talk) 18:04, 5 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Consider me involved only to the extent of a technical move request. I don't feel strongly either way, but I believe 's motivation was Article size, and simply made a WP:IAR WP:BOLD split. Perhaps you can reach out to him/her to clarify the actions? I don't think there's anything WP:RM can do, (this is more of a WP:PM). (In any case, yes, there are probably limits to WP:SILENCE, and Jax 0677 probably should have made the split a bit more visible, perhaps at an appropriate WikiProject or something) — Andy W. ( talk  · ctb) 23:30, 5 September 2016 (UTC)
 *  Reply -, in retrospect, it may have been a poor choice for me not to announce the proposed split of Jay Z discography in a location other than that page itself. I did the split, because Jay Z discography was close to 200 kB.  At times, I have been told to simply be bold and create a discography, so I often wait at least one month before actually doing so, which I did this time as well.  My proposals to split Metallica discography and Linkin Park discography have been shot down as a result.  The fact is that we are where we are, so I recommend taking Jay Z songs discography and Jay Z videography to AFD. --Jax 0677 (talk) 01:26, 6 September 2016 (UTC)

Israeli airports
Hi Andy M. Wang,

While I personally don't mind either way, there is a reason why List of X in Israel is titled List of Israeli X for almost all articles. The reason is that such articles are a natural place to include Israeli assets in the West Bank (Judea and Samaria, East Jerusalem) and Golan Heights. Some people have a huge problem with this on Wikipedia (again, not me), so the solution was to rename the articles.

—Ynhockey (Talk) 15:29, 6 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the ping. I realize that it may be an issue, but the move was motivated by Special:Permalink/737325456, a request to make List of Israeli airports a direct link in the navbox, which is of course preferable than jumping through a redirect. I believe the requester of the edit didn't realize that Template:Asia topic assumes consistency in naming across Asia topic articles. I prefer the naming consistency to keep the navbox with direct links, but understand if this particular page is controversial. Let me know if I should indeed revert it (shouldn't be a problem). Folks should then keep in mind that the navbox at the bottom of the page will need to go through a redirect. — Andy W. ( talk  · ctb) 16:26, 6 September 2016 (UTC)

Some baklava for you!

 * Replying on your talk — Andy W. ( talk  · ctb) 21:14, 6 September 2016 (UTC)

Hi Andy, do you know how to verify that a Wikipedia page is not a copy of a previous page and does not need to be moved to a different title? I received the warning on my draft page. Also, is this the best way to chat? Thank you. Downtheroad35 (talk) 16:49, 7 September 2016 (UTC)
 * If you're referring to Draft:Juice Beauty, yes, there is a note that says "Warning: The page Juice Beauty already exists." That's because the page is currently a redirect, and has no content. Not to worry — Andy W. ( talk  · ctb) 16:53, 7 September 2016 (UTC)

RM
Thanks, Andy, i didnt saw that explanation in history! Will start rm then, thanks! --Ąnαșταη (ταlκ )  18:50, 8 September 2016 (UTC)

Ulmus × hollandica 'Wendworthii Pendula'
Hi Andy,

Thank you for the edit to Ulmus × hollandica 'Wendworthii Pendula' and also for the prompt reversion of your edit, I was just in the middle of changing display title. Did I do this the wrong way round? Should I have changed the display title first, then moved the page? All the best, Tom_elmtalk 15:29, 13 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I wasn't initially sure if "Pendula" should be capitalized, but I shortly recalled MOS:LIFE. It's not an issue if you change the DISPLAYTITLE before or after the move, as long as it's compatible with the title eventually. Cheers :) — Andy W. ( talk  · ctb) 15:34, 13 September 2016 (UTC)

Coord template
Not sure what you've done to the coord template, but it seems to have broken something: see (e.g.) Grade I listed buildings in Dorset. I'm getting " : cannot have more than one primary tag per page" on the second and all subsequent references. Same thing appears on the template page itself. Could you take a look? Dave.Dunford (talk) 15:56, 13 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I've undid a sync of the module, and restored the template. The requested edit intended to allow Wikidata to be used without generating errors, and would allow coordinates with latitude before longitude. Could have been a bad sync on my part, thanks for the quick ping — Andy W. ( talk  · ctb) 16:05, 13 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Dave.Dunford (talk) 17:50, 13 September 2016 (UTC)

Editnotice template help
Hey, first of all, thank you for your help setting up my editnotice templates!

Second, do you happen to know if it's possible to make the borders inside the template on User talk:Gestrid/Editnotice invisible and, if so, how?

-- Gestrid (talk) 07:18, 18 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi, no problem. For your usertalk notice, I'm not sure how to use 1 single editnotice instance to get your result... you could either specify border:0px for the two inner editnotices (hacky), or just get rid of the outer yellow editnotice and leave the two editnotices as-is. There are many folks who essentially have two (or 3 or 4) disconnected fmboxes. Hope this helps and let me know if there are still issues — Andy W. ( talk  · ctb) 07:30, 18 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks, again.   makes it look exactly the way I want it to look.  I tried the "two userboxes on one editnotice page" thing, and I didn't like how it looked. -- Gestrid (talk) 07:36, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

Pasadena move
Is there any way to salvage a requested-move discussion after everything's been moved? I was looking at the record of moves for Pasadena to Pasadena (disambiguation), and couldn't find the move discussion. Was it deleted along the way?— Gorthian (talk) 05:56, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
 * the move discussion, originally at the page formerly titled "Talk:Pasadena" is now at Talk:Pasadena (disambiguation) (permalink). Let me know if there were any issues with the move or closure, cheers — Andy W. ( talk  · ctb) 06:05, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Ah, thank you! I don't know how you keep these pages straight! — Gorthian (talk) 06:07, 27 September 2016 (UTC)

File mover granted
Hello Andy M. Wang. Your account has been [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=rights&user=&page=User%3AAndy_M._Wang granted] the "filemover" user right, either following a request for it or due to a clear need for the ability to move files. Please take a moment to review File mover for more information on this user right and under what circumstances it is okay to move files. When you move a file please remember to update any links to the new name as well! If you do not want the file mover right anymore, just let me know, and I'll remove it. Thank you, and happy editing! Widr (talk) 16:08, 28 September 2016 (UTC)

Page Mover status
Andy, I was just granted Page Mover status, and I had a question about Requested moves/Technical requests. Are Page Movers permitted to fuflil those requests, or are only admins allowed to do so. In most cases, I could perfom the moves by either doing a page swap, or by moving the redirect elsewhere first. However, don't want to overstep my authority my first week with PM. Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 07:12, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi, yeah definitely... most of requests are page swaps. There are occasionally (uncontroversial) IP requests that can be fulfilled with a straightforward move, and some non-PM editors answer them when they can. I'd say be wary of requests that already have an ongoing full RM or require admin histmerging, or that maybe make more sense if an admin deletes a "to" or "from" page. Cheers :) — Andy W. ( talk  · ctb) 20:11, 3 October 2016 (UTC)


 * OK, thanks. I do have experience participating in move discussions, so I'm fairly aware of most of the issues involved in making moves. I'll help out there as I can. Thanks again. - BilCat (talk) 20:31, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

William Casper Tyrrell page redirect
Thanks for the speedy addition of the redirect for that article. It's users like you who make the Wikipedia world emblem turn round! 98.20.41.232 (talk) 21:27, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the request and helping to make content more accessible. Happy editing! :) — Andy W. ( talk  · ctb) 21:39, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

Page Mover question
Andy, regarding your move of Talk:Make Me... (Britney Spears song) to Talk:Make Me...: I understand that the talk page needs to match the article title, but it appears that the article was moved against the consensus on the talk page at Talk:Make Me.... I'm just curious if you saw the discussion and decided to move anyway, and if so, why? I'm not trying to be contentious or fault-find, but trying to learn the ropes at RM/TR. In such a case of mismatched title/talk page, would it have been permissible to undo the original move as being against consensus? Thanks for your patience and response. - BilCat (talk) 05:44, 6 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks, well spotted. I'd say that was on me, not on the requester. — Andy W. ( talk  · ctb) 05:55, 6 October 2016 (UTC)
 * No problem. - BilCat (talk) 06:16, 6 October 2016 (UTC)

Saraiki language
Saraiki is a language so the page Saraiki dialect be moved to Saraiki language.182.186.85.88 (talk) 14:24, 6 October 2016 (UTC)

Do you think this is reasonable?
I know you feel you're too involved to carry out the requests yourself now. But I feel that JJMC89's standard of consensus is unreasonable and unachievable. I have tried to restore the request template, but JJMC89 keeps closing it. I would like another admin to address the request—can you ask another admin to look? Thanks! — swpb T 19:23, 6 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Regarding Special:Permalink/742939642, replying there — Andy W. ( talk  · ctb) 19:38, 6 October 2016 (UTC)

Kindly have a look here, thanks
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:FCPS --Acetylcholine (talk) 22:48, 6 October 2016 (UTC)
 * My bad, please ignore, I checked again and FCPS is used by others as well! --Acetylcholine (talk) 22:52, 6 October 2016 (UTC)

Moving out of draftspace to mainspace
Andy, another editor (not a PM) moved Draft:Glenn L. Martin Maryland Aviation Museum to mainspace. In moving an article from draftspace, is the draft page supposed to be deleted? If so, is there a DB tag to use? Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 22:47, 10 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi, it's conflicting. Admins have been satisfying R2 requests on drafts, though WP:CSD doesn't technically apply (it's not from mainspace), and WP:PM/C doesn't apply either (wrong direction). Here is an RfD discussion about a similar scenario. There hasn't been consensus as far as I know. This thread might have ended unresolved, but was mentioned as a valid template to request redirect deletion in some cases. — Andy W. ( talk  · ctb) 23:15, 10 October 2016 (UTC)


 * OK, thanks. I'll leave the redirects when performing moves from draftspace; they can always be deleted at a later date. - BilCat (talk) 23:27, 10 October 2016 (UTC)

Another question: When removing a request when it's done or contested, is deleting it all that needs to be done, or are they to be manually archived somewhere? I assumed just deleted, but when I completed a move today, I had second thoughts, so I just marked it "Done". Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 06:17, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi, per convention, yes, remove the done entries, including after you click "discuss" and save the talk page to start an RM. RMT has been using permalink attribution without archival (unlike the heavier RM or XfD processes).
 * Though on the side: I think this does have its issues: if a requester makes an RMT, another user starts an RM out of it, removes the entry (per current convention), and the requester checks back and sees the entry is gone without realizing that a week-long discussion on the page's own talk has commenced. A mitigation is to make a fourth "archive" subsection below the existing 3, where answered requests are placed there for 3–4 days before manual or bot removal (so that everyone sees what has happened recently instead of digging through the revision history). I haven't proposed this at Wikipedia talk:Requested moves yet, since RMT has nonetheless been running smoothly — Andy W. ( talk ) 20:34, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Dropping a note on the requester's talk page might also be helpful, though time consuming for the closer. Perhaps a bot could be engaged to perform that task? Just thinking. - BilCat (talk) 20:53, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Perhaps RMassist/core could generate a link to the requester's talk without needing a bot task (though ensuring the message gets back to the real requester is another technical thing I think? i.e. if folks just change the auto substed wikitext) — Andy W. ( talk ) 20:56, 14 October 2016 (UTC)

Move review for Ununoctium
An editor has asked for a Move review of Ununoctium. Because you closed the move discussion for this page, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the move review. 64.237.239.84 (talk) 01:43, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Replied at your talk — Andy W. ( talk ) 02:15, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

Talk:Ben-Hur:_A_Tale_of_the_Christ_(1925_film) RM closure
Note that your RM closure was reopened by an IP that is almost certainly the OP of the RM in question at Talk:Ben-Hur:_A_Tale_of_the_Christ_(1925_film). InsertCleverPhraseHere  11:10, 22 October 2016 (UTC)
 * I see it was undone. Perhaps "Ben-Hur: A Tale of the Christ (film)" is worth a follow-up redirect discussion, but I'll refrain unless there happens to be more feedback — Andy W. ( talk ) 01:08, 24 October 2016 (UTC)

Hindko
It is requested that move from Hindko dialect to Hindko be reversed. Because Hindko dialect and Saraiki dialect both are classified under Western Punjabi Language. There is already an agreement among users to title Saraiki dialect. This move will inconsistent if one is titled dialect and other differently. It was not even discussed. ₯€₠€₯ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 39.60.148.193 (talk) 01:52, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Please see Special:Permalink/746042483, where requested the move per WP:NCLANG. "Hindko" previously redirected to "Hindko dialect" already. Uanfala has suggested that If an editor wishes to include in the title either one of the ideologically laden words "language" or "dialect", they should thence start an RM. I'm inclined to follow this advice for now. Do you want to start a Requested Move discussion on the talk page? — Andy W. ( talk ) 03:10, 25 October 2016 (UTC)

Issue with double redirect.
Hello. So first of all, I LOVE this tool. Unfortunately it isn't working 100% for me. Not sure if I'm doing something wrong... I just used it to move (swap) Rugby-ball dorid to Atagema rugosa. Everything worked as expected with one exception. At the end of the swap, Rugby-ball dorid was left redirecting to itself. I fixed it. Any idea what I'm doing wrong? -- Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 18:57, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi . Thanks! No, your swap was perfectly okay. The lack of redirect correction is "by design". pageswap swaps only the contents of the two pages and does not fix any redirects, as I deemed it out of scope. There could be situations where both pages have actual content, or the redirect points to some random third page, and it's unclear the intention of the swapper, if that makes any sense. It also does not create any new talk page redirects, i.e. Talk:Rugby-ball dorid. (There was an incoming link to this, so I created it for you.) Hope that clarifies the tool :) — Andy W. ( talk ) 19:02, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
 * That makes 100% total sense!!! Thanks for the wonderful explanation and for clearing that up. :-) -- Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 19:30, 25 October 2016 (UTC)

Buddleja colvilei 'Kewensis'
Can I ask what possessed you to change the spelling of the specific epithet to collvilei? The plant was named for Sir James Colvile, a member of the Raj and avid plant collector in India, and is spelled that way, with just two Ls, in all the references. Ptelea (talk) 22:12, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm at a loss. Which page are you referring to? I see none of my edits at Buddleja colvilei 'Kewensis'. — Andy W. ( talk ) 22:14, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Okay, I see that there are two pages: Buddleja colvilei 'Kewensis' and Buddleja collvilei 'Kewensis'. The  correction was legitimate for the latter page. If it is a misspelling, the page should be moved or merged. Please let me know what you intend, thanks — Andy W. ( talk ) 22:19, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
 * I've redirected Buddleja collvilei 'Kewensis' to Buddleja colvilei 'Kewensis' that existed in parallel — Andy W. ( talk ) 22:22, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks. The wikilink should have read James William Colvile. Ptelea (talk) 22:28, 25 October 2016 (UTC)

WP:RMTR
It's almost like the note you left here was ignored. I had to tag the redirect with R from history since the new article truly is a new article since it seems as though its creator knew nothing of the old one. However, see the edit history of Marshall Eriksen; the same situation happened there, but my request to have the history of the old article merged there was executed. With that being said, I'm half-tempted to nominate you for administrator based on this situation alone (since only admins can do history merges, course.) Steel1943  (talk) 23:32, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi, thanks for the ping. did some of my requests previously, this one might have been just WP:PV. While I believe I have a handle on the manual process (live revisions move, WP:SELDEL ones don't), it wouldn't make me sysop material, but I appreciate it. :) It'd be interesting to reconsider a new group, but I'm not optimistic. On the other hand I don't know how big an issue the histmerge backlog is. Oh and I didn't have a chance to chime in on your own RfA, but would support yourself if the day arrives. Cheers, — Andy W. ( talk ) 01:07, 29 October 2016 (UTC)

Halloween cheer!


Happy Halloween!

Hello Andy M. Wang: Thanks for all of your contributions to improve Wikipedia, and have a happy and enjoyable Halloween!   –   P p p er y 22:56, 31 October 2016 (UTC) Send Halloween cheer by adding {{subst:Happy Halloween}} to user talk pages with a friendly message.
 * , thanks, you too :) — Andy W. ( talk ) 23:51, 31 October 2016 (UTC)