User talk:Angel670/Archive 4

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. Regards, --Marshal Bagramyan (talk) 01:54, 4 September 2012 (UTC)


 * I do hope you now realize that you probably picked the worst possible way to approach this subject. The underlying crime involved was ethnically motivated, so bringing ethnicity into the discussion of the article was bound to make things worse, not better. I would strongly suggest you avoid this subject for the time being, and that you not ever bring up another users ethnicity as a negative again. Beeblebrox (talk) 23:00, 4 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Yes, I agree. Thank you for understanding. I didn't expect it will be misinterpreted in such an unpleasant way. My only purpose was to invite to a balanced editing, prevent edit-warring and mistreatment of the article, because obviously pardoning of Ramil Safarov caused a lot of negative reaction and anger in Armenia and among Armenian diaspora worldwide, and that is more than sufficiently described in the article. It’s good to see that the article is moderated now. Regarding the motive, while I’m agreeing that the underlying crime involved two ethnicities, neither motive of the crime nor the background of the incident are explained by differences in ethnicities, but inability to resolve the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict. The Nagorno-Karabakh war is mentioned in almost every source as background information, for instance by BBC, and the expert on this conflict, or RFERL. The only source indicating to ethnic hatred is the translated text of the interrogation that comes from a questionable self-published, not neutral and non verifiable source. Using such a source to substantiate personal claims, especially in a disputable article, is violation of Wiki rules. Meanwhile, many neutral sources report that the convict explained the motive of his crime to be the revenge for continuous ridicule and insult over his occupied homeland. The other concern I have is that all my edits and sources were brushed away shortly after adding them, without any firm explanation. I'd like them to be restored. Thank you! Angel670   talk  22:08, 8 September 2012 (UTC)