User talk:Angelicasparks

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Proposed deletion of UNBELIEVABLE! THE MOVIE 2016


The article UNBELIEVABLE! THE MOVIE 2016 has been proposed for deletion&#32; because of the following concern:
 * Fails WP:GNG/WP:NFF: "Films that have not been confirmed by reliable sources to have commenced principal photography should not have their own articles."

While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on |the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. McGeddon (talk) 16:25, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

Unbelievable! The Movie
If you're talking about User:Kiraroshi1976/Unbelievable!!!!! 2015 film, then that actually seems like a better article right now, as it has references and is written in a neutral (rather than promotional) tone. I assume it's still a user-page draft because the creator realises it doesn't yet meet the notability criteria of WP:MOVIE, but you should definitely talk to them about it if you think something has changed since they wrote it.

Wikipedia editors do not need "the permission of the movie director owner and currently producer" to create an article. If you're working with those people to create the article, then you have a conflict of interest and should tread lightly, restricting most of your contributions to corrections and suggestions on the article talk page. I'll paste in the generic "hello!" conflict of interest template below so that you know what the deal is. --McGeddon (talk) 19:27, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

Managing a conflict of interest
Hello, Angelicasparks. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with some of the people, places or things you have written about on Wikipedia, you may have a conflict of interest. People with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. For information on how to contribute to Wikipedia when you have a conflict of interest, see the conflict of interest guideline and frequently asked questions for organizations. In particular, please:


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Please familiarize yourself with relevant policies and guidelines, especially those pertaining to neutral point of view, sourcing, and autobiographies. Thank you.--McGeddon (talk) 19:27, 23 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Thank you for all the help. We are feverishly trying to adhere to the guidelines and create a beautiful page for the upcoming movie.  Any suggestions are welcome — Preceding unsigned comment added by Angelicasparks (talk • contribs) 20:48, 23 October 2015‎


 * Talking to User:Kiraroshi1976 about working together on the final article, and why their draft version is still a draft, would be useful. But the most important thing you can be doing right now is proving that the movie passes WP:NFF, which states that "Films that have not been confirmed by reliable sources to have commenced principal photography should not have their own articles". You need to be able to show a reliable source that confirms that the film has commenced (or completed) principal photography. And if it hasn't actually started photography, it's not ready for Wikipedia yet. --McGeddon (talk) 20:23, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

thank you
You are very kind to be helping me as you are. I wasnt aware of the other page being a draft. How can i take this page down and work with the other author?Angelicasparks 20:47, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
 * If you've got a source that confirms that the film has commenced principal photography, you can tell User:Kiraroshi1976 about it and they can work on combining their article with yours. If you haven't got such a source, then there's nothing to do here yet. --McGeddon (talk) 08:10, 24 October 2015 (UTC)

Nomination of Unbelievable! The Movie for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Unbelievable! The Movie is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Unbelievable! The Movie until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. McGeddon (talk) 22:03, 28 October 2015 (UTC)