User talk:Angelo De La Paz/Archive 1

Fan
Hi Angelo De La Paz, you know Im your no. 1 fan especially when it comes to pageant!.--Speedracer05 (talk) 12:41, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi dear! Nice to meet you, thanks for your message, that's so sweet. Best wishes to you and your family too.Angelo De La Paz (talk) 12:59, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!Speedracer05 (talk) 13:04, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Islam in India
Dear Angelo De La Paz, here i have gatherd some sources for you regarding population of muslims from date July 2007 from CIA website soo far this is the closest number

Total Population in India : 1,129,866,154 (July 2007 est.) Muslim Population in India : 13.4% Revision on Calculator : 1,129,866,154 X 0.14 = 158,181,261.56 Soo population should be rounded off to = 160 Million

Refference is from CIA Government : https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/print/in.html

And heres some Paragraphs / Columns that have been deleted by Vandalism along with Refferences.--HinduMuslim (talk) 20:19, 24 January 2008 (UTC)


 * And here is the exact numbers:


 * 1,129,866,154 : 100 = 11,298,661.54
 * 11,298,661.54 X 13.4 = 151,402,064.636

You should read: Islam by country and List of religious populations and stop making wrong, are you jealous with your Muslim neighbour Pakistan???Come on, Please wake up!!!It's cheap!

Angelo De La Paz (talk) 21:22, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Good Job on adding the Population of Muslims. Still it isnt accurate but it goes. However soon i will provide u with the exact year 2008 number of population because on the India/Pakistan news. A Pakistan TV NEWS in India Channel already stated that India Muslim population is shooting really high and may exceed population in Pakistan. You may not know because your are of buddhist/vietnam origin lol but i am from India.

Also provide the missing context listed Below, Christian/Muslim conflicts not only Hindu/Muslim conflict that is also discrimination. Muslims Convert To Christianity because of Hindu/Muslim conflict and so on. so add that too. That is a paragraph to influence Christianity good faiths. and the Christians who fled from India to Pakistan because of the discrimination. thats also why some Muslims converted to Christianity.--HinduMuslim (talk) 23:31, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

BELOW IS THE MISSING PARAGRAPH WHICH STATES THE MUSLIMS CONVERTING TO CHRISTIANITY DUE TO HINDU/MUSLIM CONFLICTS.

Muslim-Christian Conflict
Add into Islam in India article

For the most part, Muslims and Christians form the same votebank in the left-of-center arena of politics, typically at odds with Hindus. However, in troubled areas of India, Muslims and Christians have come into conflict with each other.

Muslims in India who convert to Christianity are often subjected to harassment, intimidation, and attacks by Muslims. In Kashmir, the only Indian state with a Muslim majority, a Christian convert and missionary named Bashir Tantray was killed, allegedly by militant Islamists in 2006.

A Christian priest, K.K. Alavi, who is a convert from Islam, recently raised the ire of his former Muslim community and has received many death threats. An Islamic terrorist group named "The National Development Front" actively campaigned against him. .

Are you proud of Muslims were killed Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus or anyone???And are you proud of Muslims were destroyed churches, pagodas, temples, etc???

Angelo De La Paz (talk) 23:42, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

I did not add or delete anything. That Paragraph was Part of the Article it was along with Hindu/Muslim confilcts its related. I identified it from the First Article ever made on Islam in India. --HinduMuslim (talk) 00:15, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

OKK you dont want to Add that paragraph as well im going to inform the Admins again. your abusing your authority.

OR
Hi Angelo, I removed some of your writing because I think they contain a lot of Original Research, something that is not allowed on Wikipedia (No original research). If you want to put some of it back, I suggest you do it in small steps. Take one section, make sure it doesn't contain any OR and make sure it is written using correct English, then post it. If you put all of it back without removing the original research and fixing the language it will just be reverted by someone. Best wishes/ Pax:Vobiscum 14:51, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Muchas Gracias!Thanks for your suggest!I knew and I will do as your suggests!

WP:CIVIL
Angelo, do not call other editors a "liar". It is a serious violation of WP:CIVIL, and it's definitely not Right speech. I have had to mention WP:CIVIL to you before. Please be more careful. bikeable (talk) 03:38, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Hola!That guy (75.36.137.94) was added wrong Buddhist percentage for many countries as Afghanistan,Aruba,Burundi,Anguilla,etc...and I knew that is LIAR and BULLSHIT! 0.3% of Afghanistan's population, 7% in Aguilla,etc... is Buddhists???and without any sources or convinced proof!

I am a Buddhist but I must say the truths,the liar is very serious crime with true Buddhists!I hate to see people think Buddhists are liars!I will happy to see Buddhism growing and Buddhists live in many different countries but I hate the LIARS!

You can compare his or her "LIAR" articles with my articles!!!

Best regards!


 * You seem to have responded to the admonishment not to do this by doing it again and at more length.&mdash;Nat Krause(Talk!•What have I done?) 03:54, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Length
I don't have any problem with the length of the text, it is the content I'm worried about. Since the editing is getting a bit heated I'd also like to remind you to remember the Three-revert rule (nobody has broken it, I'm just making sure you are aware of it). Best wishes/ Pax:Vobiscum 07:57, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Appropriate behaviour on Wikipedia
Angelo, I recently edited one of your remarks to remove I comment which I felt was a personal attack on one of your fellow editors. Please be aware that this sort of thing is not considered acceptable on Wikipedia.

Also, you might wish to rethink your position that you are fighting for what you see as the truth using peaceful means. In fact, it seems to me that you are using the resources provided by Wikipedia in a way that contradicts the way in which its creators have asked you to use them; and so, when you look at it this way, you are taking what doesn't belong to you, which doesn't seem very peaceful.&mdash;Nat Krause(Talk!•What have I done?) 03:14, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Buddhism by Country
Thanks, Angelo. I wanted to ask- do you think that "Did you know?" is the most appropriate title for the last section of the article? It seems like some of this information could really be integrated into the intro, or elsewhere in the article. I'm going to tweak the language a little bit in that section of text- I think some of the information is now being duplicated elsewhere. --Clay Collier 08:32, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Oh!Thank you so much,for your helps!That is a good idea,you can move "Did you know?" part before "By country" table!And that is one of the most important part which explained for "unknow" or "hidden" Buddhist numbers!

One again,thank you!Best wishes! Angelo De La Paz 08:39, 21 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Regarding the Communism issue, I did remove Vietnam from the list with China and North Korea- you're right that the policy in Vietnam has been different from that of the other two. In Laos and Cambodia the situation is a little more complex- in Cambodia, for instance, Buddhism was officially dis-established until the early 80's, and there were areas of the country that were essentially cut off until quite recently.  Attitudes have also undergone changes in response to the changing policies, the way that Buddhism is supported by the government, evangelism, etc.  Laos has some similarities, but also has even more geographic isolation of some communities.  I suppose my point is that while there is every reason to believe that Buddhism is a significant majority in each of these countries (well upwards of 90%), it's difficult to get completely accurate numbers given the political situations there.  I think in such cases, the best course is to accept official estimates- even if they seem low- while offering explanations of why these estimates might be low, or what reason there is to believe that the actual numbers are higher.  It would also be good somewhere in the article to point out that this article is based on a different premise from similar articles dealing with monotheistic fates- it simply doesn't mean the same thing to say that China is x% Buddhist as saying the the US is y% Christian, as most Western faiths assume that religion is an exclusive category.  --Clay Collier 11:58, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Yeah!Your opinions was right!I read many press about my birthplace country Vietnam.The Communist government is changing and pro-Buddhism;from 2004 to now,in Vesak day (Buddha's birthday) president,prime minister and government officals have attended (they didn't with Xmas or any others).Buddhism is the most well-treated religion!Many pagodas,new and bigger monasteries (in future,that maybe one of the biggest Mahayana Buddhist monasteries in South East Asia),giant statues of Buddha or Guan Yin Bodhisattva,etc...all is going to building from now to 2010 when the Vietnamese government will publish the national book of "top 100 Buddhist wonders and records of Vietnam".The Vietnam Buddhism (Mahayana or Theravada) is in Renaissance period.Government said: Buddhism is the most important,oldest (nearly 2000 years) and largest (over 15% have taken Rufuge of Three Jewels but total is over 85% total population) religion in Vietnam which is the most influence in Vietnamese culture,history,protect national independence and societal charities.The freedom of religion in Vietnam is very well and maybe is best in current Communist countries!You can read here (Youth Press) and I've seen it is true:

http://www.thanhniennews.com/society/?catid=3&newsid=5647 http://www.thanhniennews.com/society/?catid=3&newsid=28624 http://www.thanhniennews.com/politics/?catid=1&newsid=28589 http://www.thanhniennews.com/politics/?catid=1&newsid=28503 http://www.thanhniennews.com/politics/?catid=1&newsid=27775 http://www.thanhniennews.com/entertaiments/?catid=6&newsid=26350 http://www.thanhniennews.com/entertaiments/?catid=6&newsid=24514 http://www.thanhniennews.com/entertaiments/?catid=6&newsid=21987 http://www.thanhniennews.com/entertaiments/?catid=6&newsid=11725 http://www.thanhniennews.com/entertaiments/?catid=6&newsid=15144

Best wishes to all! Angelo De La Paz 13:44, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Vietnam map vetting
I've sought you out because you identify yourself as a Vietnamese speaker and a map lover. Take a look at the map that I've made for the Geography of Vietnam article.

What I'd like you to do, if you have a minute or so, is to vet the spellings that I've used on the map. Wherever possible, I've endeavoured to use the proper Vietnamese spellings for towns' names, that is to say, with all the diacritical marks. I am relatively sure that every provincial capital, along with Hà Nội and Thành phố Hồ Chí Minh, is spelt right, since I took the title of the vi:WP article about each one as authoritative. I am not so sure about the other places on the map.

Anyway, it shouldn't take very long, as there aren't really very many places on the map, and if you find any mistakes, could you point them out, with corrections, on my Talk page? I can easily correct any mistakes on the map.

Thanks! Kelisi 01:09, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Xin chao!Nice to meet you!

Geography is one of my favorite subjects (it rank 2nd after English).I will help you:

-Edit: Muong Tè===>Mường Tè.
 * 1/We look at Northwest which is bordered with Laos and China:

-And you should remove Bang Beng out.

-Bac Mế===>Bắc Mế
 * 2/Northeast:

-Hạ Long is not innerland,it is the famous bay of Vietnam.It is located in the middle of the line between Cẩm Phả and China.

-Edit: Muong Hin===>Mường Hin
 * 3/North Central: (the area from Thanh Hoá to Huế):

-Edit: Kỳ Son===>Kỳ Sơn;

-Remove some un-important or very small village as Duong Long, Vĩnh Son(double wrong spelling),Thánh Lang Xã

-Remove some less polular or very small village as An Lão,Phú Nhón
 * 4/South Central and Western Highland (Tây Nguyên):


 * 5/No problem for the South Vietnam,that was right and exactly!But you should edit island of Phú Quoc===>Phú Quốc

You are welcome!Best regards! Angelo De La Paz 14:37, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Oops!I've forgot to look at the small map of area around Hanoi.


 * Edit:

-Ha Nội===>Hà Nội

-Pha Lai===>Phả Lại


 * Remove:

-Nam Đien

-Hạ Long

-Xóm Lón (Xóm Lớn)

-Đông Sàng

-Vĩnh Đong (Vĩnh Đông)

-Chi Nê

-Thiet Trà (Thiết Trà) Angelo De La Paz 14:46, 2 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks a lot! The changes will be appearing in a few minutes. I haven't followed your recommendations to remove all those places, although a few have gone. I realized at the beginning that Chi Nê and Thiết Trà probably weren't very big, but I just thought a few places here and there would make the map a bit less empty. What you could do is suggest a few places for inclusion that I've left out. I'd also like more than three rivers (Black, Red and Mekong) to be named. I've found it impossible to relate en:WP, vi:WP or even de:WP articles with what appears on this map, as no article seems to have illustrations, not even in the usually excellent geographical coverage usually found on de:WP (and needless to say, I can't read Vietnamese).

Kelisi 15:54, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

You can see here for more details ("Englishize" Vietnamese):

http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/middle_east_and_asia/vietnam_pol01.jpg

Here is largest or main cities of Vietnam as CIA (But Hong Gai is not exactly,it must named Hòn Gai or Hạ Long,in Vietnam we like to call it as Hạ Long):

http://worldatlas.com/webimage/countrys/asia/ciamaps/vn.htm

I think we should use Vietnam map of University of Texas and change from English-Vietnamese names to original Vietnamese names!I will help you to do it as soon as possible.You could give me the list of names of places which is you don't understand before!

And I can help you to know exact Vietnamese original name of these places!You can ask me to help anytime you need!You are welcome! Angelo De La Paz 17:36, 2 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Names of main rivers in Vietnam:

-Mekong===>Sông Cửu Long (Nine Dragons)

-Red River===>Sông Hồng

-Black River===>Sông Đà

-Sông Cả is the river which is located from Kỳ Sơn to Vinh (nothern Central area).It is also one of popular rivers in Vietnam!

Thanks again. As for the utexas map, I think there really are only 5 placenames there that I don't already have (the first is, of course, a river):
 * 1) Song Chay
 * 2) Dien Chau
 * Ron
 * 1) Loc Ninh
 * 2) Ha Tien

The correct Vietnamese spellings will appear on the map, along with those other forms you've given me (I haven't done those yet), as soon as I know what they are.

I'll be able to impress everyone with my correct spellings when I visit Vietnam next Tết!Kelisi 21:26, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

OK!Here is the correct Vietnamese names of these places:


 * 1) Song Chay===>Sông Chảy
 * 2) Dien Chau===>Diễn Châu
 * 3) Ron===>Ròn (Exactly,it is the place of twin capes are:Ròn Lớn/Large Ron and Ròn Nhỏ/Small Ron===>Mũi Ròn/Cape Ron)
 * 4) Loc Ninh===>Lộc Ninh
 * 5) Ha Tien===>Hà Tiên


 * I think you should delete Thánh Lang Xã (northern Central,Quảng Bình province) and Dương Long (Nghệ An province) because in these provinces's maps,it wasn't show and I don't see where is it!And I suggest you should change names for some places as:


 * 1) Cu lao Thu===>Cù lao Thứ (small island in South China Sea,southern Vietnam)
 * 2) South China Sea===>Biển Đông
 * 3) Gulf of Thailand===>Vịnh Thái Lan
 * 4) Gulf of Tonkin===>Vịnh Bắc Bộ

Angelo De La Paz 22:26, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

What do you think? Is Sam Son an important enough place to put on the map? The article doesn't give its population, but it seems to be a popular resort. Kelisi 02:16, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

I think you could add Sầm Sơn into the map.Because that place is one of the most popular beaches in northern Vietnam!But it is very close capital of Thanh Hoá provinces!

There you go. How's that? For the record, that makes six versions of that map that I've uploaded to Wikipedia, my most modified map, I think. Kelisi 15:54, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Miss World 2007
Stop making unnecessary edits to the article, naming conventions of the delegates are according to the National Organizations, the Miss World list dont obey correct spellings. You noticed that with Zi Lin Zhang, which isnt the chinese convention. Please respect that and do not revert the edits. As the creator of the article I will revert it when neccesary. Keep it that way! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Edwintd (talk • contribs) 20:22, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

WP:WLA
(♠ Taifar  ious1  ♠) 02:03, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Cleanup on Religions by country
Sure The article has a lot of arbitrary formatting and bolding, the table's values don't always add up to 100%, a lot of it is unsourced, and some of the numbers vary wildly, the columns with Hindu percentages are impossible to organize, as they include superfluous symbols in addition to actual numbers. The entire second section about disputed territories should probably be cut or shortened. These are a few of the problems with the article. -Justin (koavf)·T·C·M 15:31, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

So if you could, please cooperate with us to make it, thank again!But I think that article contains multiple sources and it's very hard to add up to 100% for all countries, I think it wasn't a big problem!Regards!

Angelo De La Paz (talk) 15:37, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Request for vote
Hi Angelo. Regarding this topic, recently there have been controversies. I've written NPOV paragraphs to put in the specific article, can you vote for them here? --Esimal (talk) 18:14, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

WP:REVERT
Please do not revert good faith contributions without an edit summary. It is against policy. The Evil Spartan (talk) 21:22, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Islam in China
I see you've again deleted Editingman's link at Yuan Dynasty to Islam during the Yuan dynasty, on the grounds that it is "advertising". I can appreciate that you feel this is not a notable or relevant topic, but it's hard to see that it's "advertising". The article (and others like it) seek to trace the status and history of Islam in China, which is no worse than many other topics that find their way into Wikipedia.

At any rate, if you are going to revert, it would be preferable to make a response on the talk page (which I referred you to) rather than simply leaving a short edit summary.

By the way, since you are the creator of the following articles:


 * Buddhism in Brunei
 * Buddhism in Bulgaria
 * Buddhism in Central Asia
 * Buddhism in the Czech Republic
 * Buddhism in Hong Kong
 * Buddhism in Libya
 * Buddhism in the Maldives
 * Buddhism in the Middle East
 * Buddhism in Reunion
 * Buddhism in Saudi Arabia
 * Buddhism in Senegal
 * Buddhism in Ukraine
 * Buddhism in the United Kingdom

do I detect a certain amount of "religious competition" between you two?

Bathrobe (talk) 09:23, 17 January 2008 (UTC)


 * The articles he is plugging into the Chinese history articles are not what we refer to as "advertising," unless the articles are stating something like "Join Islam now and travel to Islamic China for authentic Chinese-Muslim cuisine!" Lol. However, it was good of you to delete his links for the "See also" sections of the Tang, Song, and Ming dynasty articles because he was ignoring the fact that Islam during the Tang Dynasty, Islam during the Song Dynasty, and Islam during the Ming Dynasty were all hidden links within the main prose of the article (or maybe he was not ignoring it, but just ignorant of the fact because he didn't read the articles carefully and investigate the hidden links already in them). I wouldn't go as far as to say his edits are vandalism; however, it is quite apparent that you and this Muslim fellow are close to engaging in an edit war. I wouldn't advise that; I would talk to the guy first.-- Pericles of Athens  Talk 16:17, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Reply
Hi, thanks for sending me a reply. The user Editingman is kind of irritating because he keeps adding back a BBC link that is not a primary source (no named author, and the website only gave a vague estimates, possibly 20-100 million and not an absolute number) and repeatedly pushing these contents onto articles that might not need them. However, I'm not sure if editingman has violated any wiki rules yet? Do you think he has? Edit war? Three revert rules? But if he keeps adding back his contents without discussing it, I'm sure we can ask Administrators to send out warnings.--TheLeopard (talk) 18:58, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks to all your reply comments!Take care! Angelo De La Paz (talk) 19:09, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Please stop reverting excessively
You are in danger of violating the three revert rule on the article Islam in India. Please do not use edit summaries as the only means of communication. When you revert another's edit, go to the talk page to discuss it with them. Continuing to revert the work of others without discussion is disruptive and can result in being blocked. It is clear that you wish to improve articles at Wikipedia. Doing so requires a collaborative attitude. I urge you to avoid reverting the article in question further UNLESS you can establish consensus on the talk page of the article in order to do so. If others disagree with you, you can always seek dispute resolution at such places as Requests for Third Opinion and requests for comment and neutral, uninvolved editors will give their opinion of the situation. Even if it takes time for this dispute resolution to work its course, do not continue to revert and obstruct changes to the article you disagree with. Even if the "wrong" version gets left up for a day or two, it is better than being blocked for editwarring. --Jayron32. talk . contribs 20:35, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Stop putting back the 1 billion Buddhists, 400 million Toaists figure!
AsiaSentinel only says that the HIGHEST ESTIMATE is 400 million, not that it is actually a decent one. Vipassana Foundation makes a crazy claim (1.2 billion!) that is contradicted by every other source on the amount of Chinese Buddhists, and his only evidence is the largest Mandarin language Buddhist forum is larger than the Western one. Well, thats because theres at most 6.5 million Buddhists in the West, but 4.5 million in Taiwan and 100 million in China! Please talk about this on Talk:Religion in China, instead of just reverting! Saimdusan Talk|Contribs 23:31, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

I haven't made that article but that was re-made new by Esimal!

Angelo De La Paz (talk) 23:39, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

MTQI Controvery
Angelo, I have deleted the "Controversy section" of Miss Tourism Queen International due to the fact that no specific or direct source cited as to where the controversy originated. The editor who originally wrote (which I have re-written while I waited for the original editor to provide citation) failed to provide a reliable source. I included to delete the statement with "Grand Slam" because as I can see above, it is a very hot topic/controversial, needing further clarification, consensus, and support from other international pageant websites. As a result of this, I removed the POV tag since the contested part (controvery section) is no longer existing and has complied with the Wikipedia style; likewise improvement was done in the article contents. I may not be available all the time to revert any untoward edits, so please keep an eye with the article. Thanks and happy editing! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ped Admi (talk • contribs) 05:06, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Thank Ped! I appreciate your contributions and don't worry, I could help you to keep my eyes with our beauty pageant related articles because that is my pleasure!

Best regards to you!

Angelo De La Paz (talk) 06:36, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Creating maps
Hi there Angelo, If you want to create your own map you can do so by getting a blank map from -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:BlankMap-World.png, on the web page don't copy the map straight away it wont work, click on the map then u will get a bigger image then copy it to Paint or other softwares, then add the colour's you want for your map subject using the bucket icon on a country. Have a nice day mate hope it was helpful! Moshino31 (talk) 17:01, 4 February 2008 (UTC) P.S. Guinea Bissau is already on light green.

Anon IP Vandalism
Hi, thanks for bringing the issue to my attention. I am not an admin so can't do anything directly but I've posted a notice of this at Administrator intervention against vandalism so someone will take a look at it. PageantUpdater talk • contribs  09:49, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

A gentle reminder
Users are allowed to delete messsages on their talk pages, see the guideline WP:BLANKING and the essay WP:DRC. The general idea is that by blanking the page the user acknowledges that they have seen the message. Regards, Mr Stephen (talk) 11:17, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Miss Earth 2007 Advertisement Tag
Angelo. Thanks for being vigilant with the pageant-related articles, for guarding them against vandalism! I would like to request that in order to improve the quality of any articles e.g. Miss Earth 2007, we should be specific in identifying the statements that necessitate any tags e.g. POV, Advert tag, and etc. in the discussion page; putting a tag (just like the advert tag in Miss Earth 2007) without distinguishing the section or parts of the article that makes it advertisement in nature is a quandary for other editors. The situation would impede other editors’ actions to improve the contents of any article. Based on my editorial review in the contents of Miss Earth 2007 article including the history section, statements with advertisement in nature, as well as some points of conflict, were deleted already. The article bears some redundancies in its contents, which I‘m about to delete e.g. pageant venue; nonetheless, the overall contents of the article are verifiable and based on third-party, published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy, which is inlined to Wikipedia policy. Regarding the article’s images/photograph/s, this should be deleted if not in lined with Wikipedia policy. Thanks and happy editing! --Jet Perry (talk) 14:59, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

I need your help
Hi Angelo! I’m planning to revise and improve the main article of Miss Earth, which include the removal of the advert tag. In ligt of the Wikipedia policy on the right side of this paragraph, I would like to ask disinterested editors to comment and identify the statements or sections in the Miss Earth article that are advertisement in nature.

The advert tag has been in placed since 12/18/07, since then, the article has undergone several edits, eliminating the advertisement statements, as reflected in the article contents and history (before and current). If there are remnants of it, please let other editors know, so we can come up into win-win solution. I'm looking forward to your cooperation by making your comments in the discussion page of Miss Earth article. Thank you. --Richie Campbell (talk) 00:46, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

lianga13
actually, the thing to do is take the evidence you have posted on lianga13's talk page, and file it (following the guidelines) at the Conflict of Interest Noticeboard. that's what this is a case of - conflict of interest, as people working for carousel/miss earth should not be editing the associated articles. the matter can be dealt with formally there. i would recommend however toning-down the rhetoric - referring to the user as a 'terrorist' is inappropriate. Anastrophe (talk) 18:23, 10 February 2008 (UTC)


 * I agree with the comments of Anastrophe above and Pageant Updater below. I don’t believe with Lianga13’s claim that he/she works with Carousel Productions, Inc. (the company that owns Miss Earth) as a secretary. If that is factual, she should be able to precisely state the name of the company where she is employed. Moreover, being an employee of Miss Earth is a liability as an editor for editing an article about your company. FYI Lianga13 has created the article, Carousel Production, which has an incorrect spelling: lacking with an “s” and missing the “Inc.”. --Richie Campbell (talk) 01:16, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Accounts
Hi - I think you need to get a slightly better grasp of Wikipedia's policies and as the previous commenter said, tone down the rhetoric a little. The only way to confirm that a number of different accounts are being used by the same person is for a Checkuser to be performed and this is done only in exceptional circumstances. Since you are obviously worked up over this I will bring it up on the Administrator's noticeboard for incidents and see what they say. PageantUpdater talk • contribs  20:28, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Laos secular
Got your message, Added Laos to the secular map. By the way are you sure Laos is a secular state - check the constitution. A gentle reminder, didnt my message help you how to edit and create maps then? it's not to hard you know, if you want the same colour of the green click on the test-tube looking icon (Pick colour) then click on the colour. did my message help then? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Moshino31 (talk • contribs) 18:21, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

A friendly reminder that you need to adhere to policies & guidelines
I understand that you are very enthusiastic about Wikipedia but you really need to gain a better understanding of Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, and the sooner the better. For a start, I highly recommend that in the future you read the text of boilerplate templates before you delete them from an article, particularly the words on the deletion templates that state:
 * Feel free to edit the article, but the article must not be blanked, and this notice must not be removed, until the discussion is closed

The references you added are fine (although not ideal, because they simply come from a fan website), but they are not the reason the articles were nominated for deletion; they were nominated because the individual pageants are not notable. More specifically, the individual editions have not been recognised by a number of reliable sources, which is an important notability criteria. This follows a previous deletion decision which found that the individual pageant editions were not notable. I have restore the deletion tags. PageantUpdater talk • contribs  08:35, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Just a reminder that whilst by all means its okay to use Pageantopolis and the official Miss Tourism Queen website for references, none of this helps assert the notability of any of these articles. The issue with them is notability, and adding references to either of those two sites won't help that. PageantUpdater  talk • contribs  13:03, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Users have the right to blank their own talk pages whenever they feel like it.
When a user blanks their talk page, it means they have read the messages. We don't require that all messages be on the talk page forever. They can all be found in the page history anyways. --Jayron32. talk . contribs 19:01, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

OK! Now I see but Ithink WP should fix this silly rule because it could help we know who is vandals! Thank you so much!

Angelo De La Paz (talk) 19:03, 15 February 2008 (UTC)


 * You can always see the warnings they have received in the talk page history. Just click the history link, and old warnings can be easily found. --Jayron32. talk . contribs  19:10, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

I haved been banned for a day by you for my silly mistake in Islam in India (I were a sheep at that time because I didn't look again for the last revision by HinduMuslim about the "Muslim -Christian conflict") so wellI think that is OK...at least for my dumb!

Angelo De La Paz (talk) 19:16, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

AIV reports
Please be aware that WP:AIV has very strict guidelines as to when a report should be filed. I have removed several reports you posted that have failed to meet those standards. First of all, read Guide to administrator intervention against vandalism and understand that unless someone has been sufficiently warned, they will not be blocked. Please try warning people yourself, and then give them time to see if they heed the warnings or not. Also, please read WP:VANDALISM. Vandalism has a very specific definition at Wikipedia, and it appears that some of your nominations are not for clear cases of vandalism. We appreciate your help in trying to identify vandals, and to stop the damage they cause for the encyclopedia. However, when an inappropriate report is made to AIV, admins waste time dealing with it. Please read the above links carefully, and make sure your future reports conform to the guidelines. Thank you, and keep up the good work! --Jayron32. talk . contribs 19:17, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

OK! Thank you and I feel happy for my contributions against vandalism! Angelo De La Paz (talk) 19:20, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Exclamation marks
I mean this in the nicest possible way, but do you know what a full stop is? Do you have to finish nearly every sentence you leave on a talk page with an exclamation mark? PageantUpdater talk • contribs  11:03, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

OK, I think you can not stand my English grammar mistakes. So well, I've just moved to CA only 5 years ago but my English skill is still bad because I am always staying in my apartment for the whole day. I will try hard for my English grammar as soon as possible. Thank girl. Angelo De La Paz (talk) 11:12, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

What Part of Vietnam are you from?Sunflowergirl —Preceding comment was added at 22:52, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Where to begin
To me it seems that there are several problems with the citations in this article, Religion in China.


 * The Vipassana Foundation link provided says: Here is the Wikipedia estimate, which is compatible to the numbers shown here. But where does the Vipassana Foundation get these numbers? And the wiki article, List of religious populations, is highly suspect since it provides no citations for the section on Buddhism.
 * If you go to Buddhism by country, one of the first citations provided for China states that only 8% of the population is Buddhist, that being the US Department of State site. For 21% instead of 8%, the 24th citation in the article from ChinaDaily says there are About 200 million people are Buddists, Taoists or worshippers of legendary figures such as the Dragon King and God of Fortune, accounting for 66.1 per cent of all believers. Note: the article says there are only 300 million people who consider themselves religious in China; the rest are presumably atheist, agnostic, or non-religious, according to this ChinaDaily article.
 * Then the 25th citation from the World Factbook of the Central Intelligence Agency states: Daoist (Taoist), Buddhist, Christian 3%-4%, Muslim 1%-2% note: officially atheist (2002 est.) But this citation is used to justify the statement in the Buddhism by country article for 80% of Chinese being Buddhist. No where in the CIA article does it say this. Now we have big problems with citations.
 * The same Christian website SEANET WORK cited in Religion in China is used here in Buddhism by Country to support the 80% population figure. The article says it is written by "Dr. Alex Smith" but provides no other information about him; I'm presuming he's a "doctor" in theology, not in science or social studies. I think citing any of these articles is a bad idea. They do not appear to be scholarly, and the use of the CIA website to say that China is 80% Buddhist when ChinaDaily says only 300 million people in the entire country are "religious" is quite a stretch.
 * In the Asia Sentinel article cited in Religion in China, it states: It is difficult to calculate how many Taoists there are in mainland China, though one estimate puts the number to as high as 400 million. Who's estimate is this? No one knows for sure, since Asia Sentinel does not disclose that anywhere in this article with a citation for that number. Another bad source with apparently no scholarly input or at least a link to some government website.
 * In the 4th citation for the percentage of Taoists in China in Religion in China, it provides the link to South China Morning Post. However, no where in that article does it say anything about the number of Taoists in China, whether it be 400 million or 30%.

Angelo De La Paz, I would highly suggest you find other sources for these numbers, whether they be from scholarly journals, government websites, or credible news organizations. The citations provided are highly questionable, that is my honest assessment.-- Pericles of Athens  Talk 19:57, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi! Thanks for your comments!

Over 75% of citation given in Religion in China were not from me! These are my citation given:


 * 1) "Counting the Buddhist World Fairly," by Dr. Alex Smith
 * 2) Religions and Beliefs in China
 * 3) SACU Religion in China
 * 4) Index-China Chinese Philosophies and religions
 * 5) AskAsia - Buddhism in China
 * 6) BUDDHISM AND ITS SPREAD ALONG THE SILK ROAD
 * 7) CHINA KNOWLEDGE - Buddhism in China
 * 8) CHINA KNOWLEDGE - Religious Daoism
 * 9)
 * 10) Top 50 Countries With Highest Proportion of Atheists / Agnostics (Zuckerman, 2005)

And you wil know how I invite many people to judge the article of Religion of China:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Saimdusan#Religion_in_China

I can not stand the dictatorial edits by Saimdusan because that was not respect anyone!

Thank you so much for your contributions and I appreciate it!

Angelo De La Paz (talk) 20:11, 17 February 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm not making dictatorial edits! I make an edit using actual sources, and you don't! And then you revert again! Thankfully, it seems you've given up the Religion in China page. Saimdusan Talk|Contribs 05:37, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Religion in China
Hi Paz! I just came to be informed that the Religion in China article was protected, and for good reason. However my last editing (to fix some facts on the article) is now lost and reverted. I was wondering if there is anyway that you could (or maybe convince the administrator) to fix the edit and make it into the current version of the article?--TheLeopard (talk) 02:44, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your comment TheLeopard! I've requested admin to block that article (edit war); I've only reverted to the neutral version (as you can see)! I think you could edit it after 2 weeks (it will be soon). Don't worry! I will always appreciate your contributions! Thank you so much! Have a nice day! Angelo De La Paz (talk) 09:26, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Hello! I just attempted to edit Religion in China. I saw on the talk page that there was a lot of controversy surrounding the number of people who were of different faiths in that country. Many people said that the verifiability of the sources was part of the problem, so I was trying to make it more NPOV in that sense. What are your thoughts? Look forward to hearing from you. Wdacooper (talk) 05:05, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Majority Muslim countries
Hi there Angelo I see you have started editing and adding sources and I really appreciate your help with all that, but for this type of table only one type of source or figure is required, because the table's job is to find highest figures, for example Indonesia has many figures it is recemonded to have only one figure, I suggest the highest because from 2000 census now it is 2008 you will expect it to be higher as an estimate, plus the sources that you have provided do not require many sources, only one thats all. Thanks a lot mate. Take care.

Moshino31 (talk) 11:58, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Saudi Arabia & UAE reports
Saudi Arabia report

Non-Muslim population of Foreign population calculation

Well it is from the same source that you have provided which is from the US State of Department but an older version from 2004, so with the new source it says.... 26.7 Million < Total population. So we work out the foreign population excluding Pakistan, Bangladesh, Egyptians and the Palestinians (Muslim majorities). 1 Million Hindus from India estimated, Lebanon estimated Christian > 20,000, 130,000 Buddhists from Sri Lanka, 10,000 Christians estimated from Eritrea and 25,000 Christians or Athiests from the United States, so next we add them all up = 1 Million + 20,000 + 130,000 + 10,000 + 25,000 = 1,185,000... Next we get that foreign non Muslim population so, 1,185,000 divide by Saudi population 26,700,000 = 0.044... X 100 will give you the percent = 4.43... basically 4%, so 100%-4%= 96% so there you have it then, there is an increase. Hope it helped! Source: http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/irf/2006/71431.htm Moshino31 (talk) 13:09, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

!!!! Sorry, I have forgotten to add the Filipinos to those numbers (90% Christian) so, if you add it to the previous calculation I have made, it will be 2,265,000 divide by 26,700,000 = 0.0848.... X by 100 = 8.48... < round that up gives you 9%, so 100% - 9% = 91% < Muslim Population !!!! Moshino31 (talk) 15:35, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

United Arab Emirates report

Section I. Religious Demography

The country has an area of 32,300 square miles and a permanent resident population of 4.1 million, with 78.1 percent of the country's population being noncitizens, according to the 2005 census. Of the citizens, 85 percent are Sunni Muslim and 15 percent are Shi'a. Foreigners are predominantly from South and Southeast Asia, although there are substantial numbers from the Middle East, Europe, Central Asia, the former Commonwealth of Independent States, and North America. According to a ministry report, which collected census data, 76 percent of the total population is Muslim, 9 percent is Christian, and 15 percent is "other." Unofficial figures estimate that at least 15 percent of the population is Hindu, 5 percent is Buddhist, and 5 percent belong to other religious groups, including Parsi, Bahá'í, and Sikh. These estimates differ from census figures because census figures do not count "temporary" visitors and workers, and Bahá'ís and Druze are counted as Muslim. Source = http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/irf/2007/90223.htm

Thanks a lot!
Hi there again Angelo, yes I have accepted the fact that the Gulf States do not really have 'over 90%' of Muslim population as we have seen in the maps, according to all sources there are high number of foreign workers in these countries and I have accepted that because of you Angelo thanks a lot, I would change the map but would result in a map conflict, anyways Thanks a lot!!! I appreciate your help. Moshino31 (talk) 18:13, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Miss Earth article
Angelo, I have removed the advert tag of the Miss Earth article, in view of the fact that the advertisement statements has been eliminated and the article has undergone major transformation from the time when the advert tag was put in placed in December. The POV tag was also removed since the contested statement (the Miss Earth pageant is recognized as one of the three most prestigious beauty pageants in the world in terms of size and quality) was eliminated and replaced the word “prestigious” into “largest”, since prestigious is listed as one of Wikipedia’s peacock terms; instead a more definitive word was used such as “largest” followed by an identifier and reference of the national directors conducting the national competitions. If you have any suggestions to improve the article, please feel free to let me know.

By the way, I like your discussion welcome page (Getting started, Getting help……), I wanted to copy and paste it on my page, since it’s a good resource in Wikipedia editing. Thank you! --Richie Campbell (talk) 22:27, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
 * That was so fast, I really appreciate the effort of putting it into my discussion page. Please continue watching the article against vandalism. Thank you a hundred-fold!--Richie Campbell (talk) 23:56, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

RE: Redirects
I'll look into it as soon as I can. Thanks for notifying me! Cheers, Master of Puppets   Call me MoP! ☺  13:40, 27 February 2008 (UTC)


 * I left a comment, though I don't have much to say as I'm not too knowledgeable about that specific subject. I hope my advice helped a bit, at least. :) Cheers! Master of Puppets   Call me MoP! ☺  00:00, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Religion in China
I'll have to take some time to read the discussion page; I don't have time right now, but maybe on the weekend. Regards, -- Jeff3000 (talk) 13:47, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Vandalism?
Can you tell me how this is vandalism? She's his wife - but then that would take some reading, and clearly you find it easier to dish out pointless vandalism warnings than read. Rgds, --86.141.164.141 (talk) 04:28, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Very easy! Elena is female and Viktor is male so you mustn't change their sexuality.

Angelo De La Paz (talk) 04:31, 1 March 2008 (UTC)


 * I didn't - look at the edit record: I directed two redlinks for her (Ie - his wife) to his bio. But you are still unable to read I see - how is this vandalism? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.141.164.141 (talk) 04:33, 1 March 2008 (UTC)


 * You shouldn't (or maybe mustn't) change a woman to a man because it's very silly. If you like you could creat a new article of Elena Franchuk, it is better than you change her name to her husband name as Viktor Franchuk and even her sexuality. Elena Franchuk is Elena Franchuk, Viktor Franchuk is Viktor Franchuk...2 different persons, 2 different names and 2 different genders!Angelo De La Paz (talk) 04:41, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Please don't revert to non Wiki style
I made some edits to Miss Universe 2008 to bring it into Wikipedia style. You reverted to the non Wiki style, so I have changed it back. I suggest you read the MoS. Please don't revert again. Kaiwhakahaere (talk) 08:16, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Communism
I see on your front page that you have several tags that denounces Communism (you don't support Communism and the Chinese Communisty Party). So do you support the Communist Party of Vietnam? Which is the dominant party in that country.--Sevilledade (talk) 20:55, 1 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi guy, I don't support any Communist party because I've left my father hometown countries 2 times (China and Vietnam). But I think that Vietnam could be the easiest Communist country because I've visited this country 2 times (2004 and 2006) and in this year I will come back Vietnam on July because Miss Universe 2008 pageant. In Vietnam, North Korea and Cuba...Communist party is the only one party.

Nice to see you!

Angelo De La Paz (talk) 21:56, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Caodaism
Why have you reverted by edits about number of Caodaists in Vietnam? Latest statistics (1998) cite 8 million adherents. =) Regarding Religion in China, I think it's time to unlock the article and restore real statistics. ^^ --Esimal (talk) 19:33, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Because I know that is adherents of Cao Dai (around 3 million and it's still growing...slug speed!) is much lesser than Roman Catholics (6 million; from 6.7% in 1999 to 7% in 2006) and even Hoa Hao Buddhism (growing very fast, from 1.1% to over 3% in 2006)

As you can see that although Cao Dai is a Vietnamese syncretic religion (Buddhism mostly) but mostly Buddhists don't consider Caodaists as Buddhists (because Cao Dai worship JESUS)

http://www.thienlybuutoa.org/

Best wishes to you, Esimal! Angelo De La Paz (talk) 19:40, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Caodaists themselves don't think to be part of Buddhism. "Syncretic" means "blending elements of various traditions", but a syncretic religion is not the other religions, it's a new single religion! ^^ Caodaism has drawn elements from other religions, but this doesen't means Caodaism is Buddhism, Taoism, Christianity, it's simply Caodaism! --Esimal (talk) 19:50, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

That's right, Esimal. I think Cao Dai is the most complicated religion and it is very weird for me.

I think that Cao Dai (Vietnam) and Cheondoism (Korea) are similar!

Regards!Angelo De La Paz (talk) 20:03, 2 March 2008 (UTC)


 * I think Caodaism is a little bit kitsch; Cheondoism seems a good religion. Do you think they're dangerous because they're basically nationalistic? ^^ --Esimal (talk) 20:12, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Angelo De La Paz (talk) 20:19, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
 * No, I don't think so because I've lived in Sai Gon for many years and went to Mekong Delta; Caodaists are one of the loviest people although they look cold and weird outside but they are really friendly, merciful and helpful. 100% of Caodaists are absolutely vegans. But they are very nationalist and conservative!

Image
Unfortunately I had to request that the image be speedy deleted from the commons because it is a clear copyright violation. Only "free" images may be uploaded to the Commons, and fair use of images such as that one are not available on Wikipedia. I suggest you try reading the clear instructions about what is allowed to be uploaded available on both the Commons and here. PageantUpdater talk • contribs  19:01, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Considering I have already discussed this with you I am surprised you have continued to upload non-free images on the Commons. You need to appreciate that only images created by you or which come a small number of other sources (e.g. US government sites, images uploaded on Flickr under certain Creative Commons licenses) may be uploaded there, certainly not any old image you pull from Google.  The uploading pages on the Commons make this extremely clear and I think you need to read them more carefully.  You most certainly cannot claim a copyrighted image under the GFDL. PageantUpdater  talk • contribs  23:36, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

OK! I have removed all! Thank you! Angelo De La Paz (talk) 23:44, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

kosovo
There is a problem in this article Because There is no Serbia and Montenegro now. --Tarih (talk) 04:34, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

But Kosovo is still republic in dispute and we must respect the truth that there is no certain census about religious population in Kosovo and we must wait for it.Angelo De La Paz (talk) 05:33, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Good work
Good work undoing the crud you're fixing at the moment! You may be interested in this. It remains to be seen whether the editor will heed this though. PageantUpdater talk • contribs  09:41, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

I think we should give a second change for him because I think his contributions is "good-faith"! But I will add the final warning if he is still change country name again. Thank you! Angelo De La Paz (talk) 10:13, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I wasn't warning him as in "stop or you'll be blocked"... who knows, he might not even know what he's doing isn't how we do things. Just a gentle and friendly reminder :) PageantUpdater  talk • contribs  10:20, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Vandal warnings
Please do not give vandals multiple warnings after they have stopped, as you did at User talk:12.216.189.56. There is no reason to do this. --- RockMFR 04:52, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Katarzyna Borowicz
I wouldn't exactly call the article stupid, as the subject is notable... it just needed moving to the correct title and a bit of expansion. I've started it off but more will have to be done... PageantUpdater talk • contribs  18:27, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

MUO/Miss Universe templates
Can you please weigh in at Template:Miss_Universe]]? is edit warring the template and Miss USA and refuses to discuss the issue. I, quite frankly, think his edits are ridiculous but I've exhausted my 3 reverts on the template. PageantUpdater talk • contribs  23:42, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Hi girl, as I can see that he has removed Template:Miss_Universe out of the main articles of Miss USA and Miss Teen USA. There is no big problem now. I am with you because I think so that is very superfluous (Template:Miss_Universe in Miss USA or Miss Teen USA).

I will addthese articles into my watchlist soon!

Bye! See ya! Angelo De La Paz (talk) 08:01, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Standard Names
- "We must respect the standard name as of any format of any beauty pageant. Examples: Zuleyka Rivera, Cynthia Olavarria, etc...)"  - What are you talking about? A lie? There is not such thing as "standard name" in beauty pageants... the names you see in the official websites are the ones that the national franchiseholders send to the international pageant. You want to know the "standard" name of a contestant?, go to the national pageant website or to the local newspapers, there you'll find it. But don't edit based on what you want or what you think, that is irresponsible, specially when the "standard" name comes from a reliable source. I will check all the references and I will put the name from the reference, if you change it, you are removing factual information, and that is vandalism. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.50.12.67 (talk) 18:46, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Please see the comment left for User talk:67.224.153.110 here :) PageantUpdater  talk • contribs  20:30, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Btw I've also left the comments on User talk:64.237.223.253, as it appears we might be dealing with someone who is changing IPs (maybe aol?) PageantUpdater talk • contribs  20:41, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

User:122.105.144.118
Users and IPs are allowed to nominate pages for deletion. While he should not have tagged the talk page, your vandalism warnings and report at WP:AIV were not valid. Stifle (talk) (trivial vote) 10:46, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Han Chinese
Please do not remove Articles for deletion notices from articles or remove other people's comments in Articles for deletion pages. Doing so won't stop the discussion from taking place. You are, however, welcome to comment about the proposed deletion on the appropriate page. Stifle (talk) (trivial vote) 10:47, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Please stop with your repeated use of warnings
Please stop with your warnings seen as so called 'vandalism' to my talk page, clearly it was certainly not vandalism, based on statistics what is your problem mate, I will refer it to the administrators if I have to. Moshino31 (talk) 21:07, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Really? I don't think so and I've requested some admins to judge it soon. I believe I were right! Let's see the final result!Angelo De La Paz (talk) 21:33, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Well after your comment of saying that I am a 'Muslim extremist' does really weigh in your vote opinion? Give me one good reason why you think I am an extremist - straight discrimination of my beliefs and ideas right there! Unbelievable! Plus I was refering to 'your warnings to my page as so called vandalism not your edits mate. Moshino31 (talk) 21:37, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

I am not a talkative guy. Let's who right who wrong after the judgments of some admins. I am working with Wikipedia's rules and laws.Angelo De La Paz (talk) 21:41, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

User:Moshino31
I would be wary of calling people "extremists". It seems to me that he is claiming that the article uses information from the CIA Factbook. If that is the case, it would be regarded as a reliable source and you would need to unearth reliable evidence that contradicts those statistics. Or you would need to show that his figures are not from that reliable source, or are out of date.Black Kite 21:44, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Please take a more careful look again because as we can see that he is not use only all sources of CIA Factbook only (he didn't added the lower estimates of Muslim percentage in some countries although it is from the same CIA Factbook) and he always choose the highest estimates of Muslim percentage.

Angelo De La Paz (talk) 21:52, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

So what is your point then, so what if I have chosen the highest percentages as long as it is from a reliable type of source then it's fine, I dont see a problem here? Moshino31 (talk) 21:56, 20 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Do these lower and higher estimates make a significant difference to the figures? Also, this could be easily solved by either calculating an average of lower and upper estimates and using that, or adding a note that that points out that this is an upper estimate. Black Kite 22:00, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

- Thankyou very much that is exactly what I am thinking, doesnt really give a huge difference to the way it is viewed of the country. Moshino31 (talk) 22:05, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Reverted it back!
Hello Angelo, sorry that I have decided to suddenly edit the article of Majority Muslim countries which I didnt realise it would effect your stability on Wikipedia as we can see, reacting too much so decided to change it back to the way it was days a go to make our lives more easier, happy then! Moshino31 (talk) 15:56, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

That is enough! I will not forgive you again because I've given you many opportunities but as I can see that you have violated many rules as WP:OR, 3RR, NPOV, WP:V and WP:SOCK. And now, it is over because I've had got enough evidences to request admins to ban your account and I've added you into my blacklist. In my life, I hate extremism and extremists mostly.Angelo De La Paz (talk) 16:05, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

- One point I would like to make you better go out in the world of today and view what extremism really is in today's life, because seems to me the only extremism you think is a teenager who edits percentages on Wikipedia <<< NOT EXTREMISM foga! Please take my advice and go out in the real world! Good Day! Moshino31 (talk) 16:12, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

You must learn about Wikipedia rules again because this is a public website and you must write the right things with right sources and don't let the people know only 1 biased side.Angelo De La Paz (talk) 16:18, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

- DaughterofSun (talk) 16:25, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Kazakhstan percentage
The new percentage is from the 2006 report (53%) which can be found on the book, Islam and Society in Modern Kazakhstan can be found probably at: http://www.cimera.org/en/publications/conferences.htm

Accept your new citation given of Kazakhstan but you mustn't deleted other multiple sources. Are you allergic with Wikipedia rules??? Angelo De La Paz (talk) 17:08, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

I have not removed any other percentages that you have cited, I have for example moved multiple sources of Egypt because all sources have the same percentage so it is reliable to only apply one source to make the article look cleaner, simple. Moshino31 (talk) 17:11, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

But it could be not suitable for NPOV and everybody have right to give sources. Your reasons to delete citation given is unsatisfactory.Angelo De La Paz (talk) 17:16, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

March 2008
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. If necessary, pursue dispute resolution. Jauerbackdude?/dude. 18:23, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Tibet
I hope that one day Tibetans regain control of their own homeland and govern it apart from the rule of the PRC. However, the random violence and killings in Lhasa against many innocent people of various ethnicities that are not Tibetan is no way to solve any issue of independence and simply ruins people's lives to no good end. I know to some it might seem the only way to vent frustration with PRC rule, but simply rioting in China does not gain one independence or liberty. We've all seen what happens to regionally isolated rioters in China; best to wait when the moment is ripe for a massive, widespread, unchallengeable revolution...which might or might not happen.-- Pericles of Athens  Talk 21:19, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

First, I am really appreciate your reply. Ya! You talked right!

Although I am an Asian mix (dominant Cantonese) and I am proud of my Chinese descent but I am really anti the rule of Chinese Communist Party because we Chinese know that they are worse than Nazi party. I pray for the sins of my Chinese people and pray for World Peace and the freedom of Tibet, East Turkestan, Taiwan with many other countries (such as Vietnam, Burma, Laos, Mongolia, etc) because Chinese Communism is a new colonialism, new fascism, etc...Once again, thanks for our comment. Best wishes to you and your family! Angelo De La Paz (talk) 21:42, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Communist China is waste matter
Wonderful, I also support for Tibet and Tibetan people. Because China is a stealer of land, culture, history and resource. Immediately, I want dirty Communist China recognizes independence of Tibet, and returns all the territory that China has stolen from Mongolia, Korea, Vietnam, and India from centuries ago. And I command that China must withdraw from both Paracel and Spratly Islands. JacquesNguyen (talk) 01:32, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Tourism Queen International
I cannot delete the article because I am am not an administrator, and besides, it is not a candidate for speedy deletion. Although previous year articles of this pageant have been deleted, I decided yesterday not to nominate this one for deletion because it seems to have received a decent amount of news coverage (despite the fact that the article is not yet referenced). PageantUpdater talk • contribs  01:28, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Tibet
Thanks a lot for your message, Angelo! deeptrivia (talk) 16:54, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

About your message to me
Hello. Your accusation is totally untrue! It's true that I have more than 1 account here in Wikipedia (I only have 2; I rarely use the other one, I normally use this one that I am using right now), but I swear, 100%, that I am NOT those people you just said that I am. That's all. Have a nice day. --Makeru (talk) 12:02, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Hi!
How did you find me? I'm ashamed to say that I know nothing about Buddhism in my country. All I could do is try to find something in Google, same as you would do... --Miotroyo (talk) 21:40, 26 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Oh! you mean if I can help you with Spanish sources, ok, I'll try, give me some time.--Miotroyo (talk) 21:45, 26 March 2008 (UTC)


 * It's enough time! Are there already any articles on Buddhism in other Latin American countries?

--Miotroyo (talk) 21:52, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Grammar
Please watch out for grammar. I found the same lack of spaces in Buddhism in Libya than in Buddhism in Brunei. See u. --Miotroyo (talk) 22:03, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

User talk:Alphaman11
Hi there, thank you for reverting the vandalism done by User:Alphaman11, but now because he has been blocked it is pointless to continually add warnings to his usertalk page. Simply revert, there is no need to warn at this point. Thank you for your hard work. Cheers, Tiptoety  talk 21:01, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Koreans
Hey, perhaps you can do me a favour and speak to Bostonjj about his edits regarding the population number on Koreans. I've given up; see User talk:Bostonjj. As you may have seen in the past I'm not the world's most patient or civil person in situations like this. cab (talk) 07:53, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Just for notice
Hi there Angelo, The pie chart - yes I have made another one, but I think it should be kept because it focuses on the four major religions of the world and is the distribution of how far spread they are in all of them together, please keep this yeah? Thanks. ''p.s. The pie chart was created using a software of Microsoft, the design is obviously 3-D non-flat shaped, so Christianity is larger than Islam if measured correctly. Just for the notice.'' Goodbye.

Re: A little help
Hi! I checked out the maps you were referring to and the current color schemes and configurations seem fine, I actually liked to colors used. As for your question, well, I'm not really that familiar in using any softwares to edit pictures and maps; I just use paint, and save it in .png format (I just noticed that there is a lesser tendency to distort the resolution and image of the picture if you save it in png, instead of the usual jpeg or gif, while bmp may lead to a larger file size). You can include the legend by inserting text boxes (clicking the button with "A" in the toolbox on the paint program), and then just including a box containing the matching color). As for the map itself, if you need customized ones or you're having difficulty finding the most appropriate configuration, you can try asking Roke. Thanks! Joey80 (talk) 03:03, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Image:Religion freedom map.png
Hi there, the sources which I have used to create the map was not from the sources of Wikipedia, but I have found a book which I did mention to you was 'The Atlas of Religion' which can be found on openDemocracy online, so I have used that map provided on the website to create it by opening the PDF file, and Thanks for the Video.

Barnstar
Thank you very much Angelo! =) --Esimal (talk) 09:44, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
 * You have an email. ;) --Esimal (talk) 13:59, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Article must be Created
Hello Wiki User Angelo De La Paz, would you like to contribute on making an article called Buddhism and Islam theres already an existing article called Hinduism and Islam and i have researched in many fields im an student at University of Toronto (Scarborough Campus) and part of the Department of Philosophy & Religion, and can provide information on Buddhism and Islam relations. You could review a bit i've contributed at [] the article still needs alot of improvement im still gathering more sources for more claims. --NaSuraLK (talk) 04:37, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

OK! That could be a great idea. I think you should contact some members of WikiProject Religion, WikiProject Buddhism and WikiProject Islam.And I remind you that I am not really good Buddhist (just a secular Buddhist: more atheist than religious, not a vegan, and lazy to visit Buddhist temples, etc) but I will try my best. Here are some notable researcher (Buddhism, East Asia, Culture): User:Blnguyen, User:Peter jackson, User:Spasemunki, User:Larry Rosenfeld, User:Esimal, etc...You must invite them because their knowledge is incredible and superb!

Thank you! Good luck!

Angelo De La Paz (talk) 04:58, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Ming Dynasty
Due to the dispute, the article has been locked. Further information is here, I have offered to mediate the content dispute. Cheers, Steve Crossin   (talk to me)  14:38, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Unreliable sources added for the map
The sources you have added are not even reliable, you should provide sources that are reliable based on the criteria, and that would be the percentages of the countries which obviously cannot all be given in that type of non-article. Plus not vandalism. Moshino31 (talk) 16:37, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

The sources what you mean "reliable" were always choosing the highest Muslims percentage and least Christian percentage?

Angelo De La Paz (talk) 16:42, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

OK I understand very well on that matter, but please do not change the map to an older version, we have already cited why percentages are very different in the Middle East, therfore we have excluded the real statistics right. Plus Kazakhstan will obviously reach 50% by now in 2008 because of population growth plus national statistics have also pointed that out 5 years ago therfore there will obviously be a change there. Bye. Moshino31 (talk) 17:00, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Fine! I swear that I will leave it alone (Islam by country) if you will never attack on the numbers of Christianity or Hinduism (or maybe Buddhism or other religions) again. Deal or no deal?

Angelo De La Paz (talk) 17:07, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Deal Angelo! Moshino31 (talk) 18:06, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Sir Angelo, you have been cordially invited...
...by User:PericlesofAthens to attend a prestigious debunking ceremony at Talk:Ming Dynasty! Congratulations.

After reading the passages I have provided from Wylie's source, please come to the talk page and state in a designated slot your thoughts and opinions on the Mingshi, LaGrandefr's argument, and his dubious map. Thank you.-- Pericles of Athens  Talk 21:32, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Barnstar
Thanks, Angelo. You're too kind. --Clay Collier (talk) 21:39, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject EthnicGroup
Hey there. I see that you are a member in the WikiProject Ethnic Group. I was wondering if I could get your opinion on Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Ethnic_groups. Thanks for your time. Chaldean (talk) 03:30, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Angelo, the question isn't about the ethnic group specifically, but rather how the lay-out of an ethnic page should. You don't need knowledge of the specific ethnic group. Just what the format of a typical ethnic page should be on wiki, is the question. Chaldean (talk) 04:32, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your cooperation Angelo. Now if you could just state your opinion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Ethnic_groups. Chaldean (talk) 04:49, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Wait a moment
What are you exactly disagreeing about? You made a comment about my edits on the table and reverted all of my edits; I reverted them because I couldn't understand your concern. You then gave me a vandalism warning and told me that I messed up the table, which I did, and which I fixed in my next edit. Now you tell me that another one of my edit does not have a source - and you spammed 6 users to ask for their opinions? Slow down a bit, let's talk about it. Herunar (talk) 16:00, 3 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Re your message: Herunar appears to be willing to discuss the issue with you. Please civilly discussion the issue on the talk page to see if you can resolve the issue.  Getting participation from other editors interested in the topic and getting a consensus on the change would be good.  Also, please read Dispute resolution. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 16:41, 3 April 2008 (UTC)


 * What you undid here was not vandalism. In fact, some might even label your revert as vandalism.  Please read WP:REVERT, WP:UNDO, WP:VAND, WP:TALK, and WP:AGF.  Please do not remove comments from my talk page.  Thanks.  -- Cobi(t 17:52, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

you want my advice? Calm down. Hysteria makes you look bad. Treat Herunar as a respectable editor even if you are in dispute. Happy editing, dab (𒁳) 20:53, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Close My Eyes
Here, listen to some Backstreet Boys. Chill out. Herunar (talk) 11:24, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay, okay, some real music. How 'bout Babyface? Herunar (talk) 11:40, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Created the report for you
See Suspected sock puppets/Korea4one. I think is probably another one. Cheers, cab (talk) 08:59, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

OK! Thanks for you helps. Good luck.

Angelo De La Paz (talk) 09:01, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Buddhist numbers in Japan
Hi Angelo.

This is in response to your recent posting on my talk page. I think that it is really messy to conduct discussions by bouncing back and forth between talk pages, so I suggest that we conduct whatever remains of this one on either my talk page or yours -- I'll respond on whichever of these you post your next comment.

I'm not an expert on either Buddhism or Shinto, but I'm doubtful enough about WP edits that I take a look at some of them. I see that the lead section of the Buddhism by country article says, "Adherents of Eastern religions such as Buddhism, Taoism, Confucianism, Shinto and traditional religions or Shamanism, animism often have beliefs comprised of a mix of religious ideas", and supports that with a bunch of cites. OK, the current version of the article says that Japan has "44% - 84% - 95%" Buddhists, citing this and this to support that assertion. As far as I can tell, the cited sources do not support that assertion. Also, as far as I can tell from Shinto, Shinto and Buddhism are not identical &mdash; are not the same religion &mdash; and Shinto-believers should not be lumped together with Buddhism-believers. -- Boracay Bill (talk) 12:25, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
 * (further exchanges can be seen here). -- Boracay Bill (talk) 01:59, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

How Wikipedians are supposed to use tags
I see you keep adding POV-check tags to the Secular State article without contributing to the talk page to explain why you are doing so, and thereby getting a discussion going that could lead to resolution of the POV dispute. Please don't keep doing this. There's considerable wisdom in the WP rules, and things almost always work better if wikipedians follow them. For more information, consult Template:POV-check. I personally have no stake one way or the other on whether or not the article merits being tagged, but there's no point adding tags if you're not going to explain why. Thanks! Jbening (talk) 20:12, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Tibetan People
Dear Angelo - thank you for your request. Yes, I already have the article on my watchlist - it (and other articles on Tibetan subjects) are, as you know, being heavily vandalised these days (sometimes crudely but sometimes quite subtly - so one really has to keep one's eyes open). Thanks for your interest. All best wishes, John Hill (talk) 22:23, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Rate on quality scale
Hi, I am working on Taiwanese opera and trying to expand it.This article has not yet received a rating on the quality scale.I would like to ask you to watch that article and rate on the scope of Wikiproject China or give me some opinions or comments on this article. ThanksQwaszxfish (talk)04:07, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

The new maps
Hi there, about the maps - I have created it like this because, as you can see for all religions there are conflicts between the percentages of the maps, and as for the Muslim map as you can see I have edited some of the Arabian countries with a lighter green ecen though it is dark, it will reduce state the real percentages and, the difference about the map is that it shows how far the religions are distributed across the map. Moshino31 (talk) 12:27, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Whatever man, there's no freedom in this site, go ahead change already. Byebye. Moshino31 (talk) 12:33, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

How about on the new maps, I could write for colour blind people to visit the other maps with links provided, I have seen in other articles they do this, what are your opinions, please reply, thanks. Moshino31 (talk) 14:29, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

-- Thankyou very much Angelo, well I'm not a real contributer like you Angelo, you're the real expert, you keep up the good work too! Thanks. (Hope the Tibet protest goes well if you go, get that tourch! :))


 * Just edited the Buddhist map to add East Asian, but why?Moshino31 (talk) 16:12, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

New map is better
Note: Moshino moved the text below from the talk page of Islam. Please do not simply move text like this Moshino, because it makes it appear as if I posted it here myself (though I'm sure this was done in good faith). Maybe next time leave a message for Angelo stating that someone has weighed in on the subject at the talk page of the entry and that you request his comments there. Thanks.PelleSmith (talk) 17:15, 9 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I'd like to weigh in on the map situation. The new map, put up by Moshino, is much more intuitive than the one we had up previously.  That's not to say that the old map was no good, but the gradient of greens from light to dark (low to high) makes more sense than arbitrary colors assigned to the different percentages.  Another similar option would be to go between two colors in a gradient, like yellow and red, but I think this one is supurb.  I'm going to revert back to Moshino's map and I'd like to hear a good argument for keeping the old one.  Thanks.PelleSmith (talk) 14:31, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Also, if the darker side of the map, with the high percentages isn't clearly distinct enough between some of the groups I'm assuming Moshino can tweak the coloring a bit. That problem does not change the fact that this map is much more informative for what it does and requires much less work to figure out.PelleSmith (talk) 14:35, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Please discuss: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Islam

see
Christianity in China, Portal:Christianity in China. POV Christian fanatics are back. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.11.78.218 (talk) 17:35, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

2 photos
2 photos are already enough for the section of university in Hong Kong. 99.224.190.138 (talk) 18:02, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

I don't think so. If you delete that photo again so I will give you a warning. Sorry. Angelo De La Paz (talk) 18:03, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

No, once upon a time, only two photos were putting there in order to protect the layout. 99.224.190.138 (talk) 18:04, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Destructive contribution of Brian0324
Angelo, we should stop this POV user spread his false claims and destructive edits. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.13.83.210 (talk) 19:48, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Re: Olympic torch in Saigon
I've seen protests advocated by overseas Vietnamese but haven't heard anything about it from within Vietnam itself. Given that the government exercises tight control over the media and is eager to please the PRC government, I think any protests announced ahead of time will be put down before it even starts. However, given the spontaneous anti-Chinese protests last year in Saigon and Hanoi, some people might attempt to protest, but we're not going to hear about it until it happens. I will read your links and see if I can create a section for it. DHN (talk) 23:42, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Added. DHN (talk) 02:46, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Jessica Trisko
When you add a tag like this, you need to add your reason/issue on the article's talk page. Thanks ++Arx Fortis (talk) 15:17, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

I don't think i'm making unconstructive contributions
I don't think I'm making unconstructive contributions in regarding to the article Tibetan people. I don't think it is nessesary to state some exile government claiming the region of Tibet as the actual ruling government is the People's Republic of China. Moreover, the Tibetan people not only live in the TAR, but also some other provinces of China such as Sichuan and Qinghai. --219.77.36.187 (talk) 15:55, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
 * So you think anti-chinese opinions are neutral?--219.77.36.187 (talk) 15:59, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
 * The word "invasion" is also a biased wording. Please read more about the Chinese history. The Tibet and Xinjiang regions are inherited from the Republic of China government by the PRC and before that the Manchu Qing government. That's why I said the word "invasion" is not appropriate. I'm respecting there are different cultures in these region but the ruling of PRC of the two regions is also the FACT. Don't you think that Wikipedia should state facts rather than somebodies' expectations? In fact, the Republic of China (Now in Taiwan) government is also claiming the whole Tibet region. Do you think that it is appropriate to write all claims in that box? --219.77.36.187 (talk) 16:12, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
 * No more comments to me if you are not respecting the fact. --219.77.36.187 (talk) 16:21, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Are you talking about my contribution or just making statements? --219.77.36.187 (talk) 16:30, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
 * If you are going off topic, okay, I give you links showing what the Tibetan rulers do before the Communists. --219.77.36.187 (talk) 16:33, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I am just a passer-by reading the same article, but it seems to me that you are using your own preference towards an issue and ignoring the fact that Tibet is IN FACT governed by PRC. Even though you are against CCP and support the free Tibet movement, it is not appropriate to hide the fact - Wikipedia needs to provide true information and it is not a place to express your personal view in an article. I would think you are too arrogant to treat that as vandalism. Better read more here: Vandalism. --Xavier Fung (talk) 16:34, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
 * What do you think if we are going to write the both views in the page? This is one of the methods to resolve conflicts in Wikipedia. --219.77.36.187 (talk) 16:39, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
 * First of all, just remove any entries related to Central Tibetan Administration in the box on the right. This article is talking about the Tibetan people, not the political status of Tibet. As a result, People's Republic of China, Nepal, Bhutan, India and United States . Secondly, for the wording in the main article I need to think twice before making any draft. --219.77.36.187 (talk) 16:58, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Don't just say I'm violating NPOV. I HAVEN'T MADE ANY CHANGES! The reason of making such modification is because there are also notable Tibetan populations in regions outside TAR such as Sichuan and Qinghai provinces.--219.77.36.187 (talk) 17:09, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Then the United States should be removed. Right? --219.77.36.187 (talk) 17:19, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Also India, as the Tibetan group is also the minority of the country.--219.77.36.187 (talk) 17:21, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Please mind your attitude
After I have read your comments on the talk page of this IP user, it seems that you have started labelling the IP user because of his/her origin and place of living. The user simply expresses the fact and I could see no intention to promote communism. I think you'd better walk away and cool down. I also do not agree that this is an NPOV issue and you are reminded to stay civil. Read more in WP:Staying_cool_when_the_editing_gets_hot, WP:Wikiquette and WP:Resolving_disputes.--Xavier Fung (talk) 17:22, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Buddhism in the United Kingdom
I'm puzzled why you've just deleted material supporting your point of view. Peter jackson (talk) 17:23, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Free Republic
freerepublic.com is not a "valuable link", it's a spammed site that is going on the blacklist. Please also see WP:VAND for what constitutes vandalism. Guy (Help!) 20:24, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

The maps information
Waalaykum Assalam Angelo, about the maps, in an 'Islamic state' based on thier constitutions, the government laws of the court etc. are dealth with according to the Sharia law which is based upon the what the Qur'an says, all laws are based on Islamic principles and the Qur'an is the source legislation. Compared to the 'State religion', it recognises Islam as the religion of the country, but in some ways uses a few Secular type of laws, this is mainly in countries which have a high minorities of non-Muslims, just to give equality, therfore the laws are not based upon Sharia and Islamic principles, but does play a huge role in decision-making like marriage etc. In a non declared state, it largely recognises all the religions of the country, for example Lebanon or Indonesia, which have high numbers of Christians or Buddhists. In a 'secular state', the countries do not use any Islamic laws or it does not recognise any religion as the state religion, this means it does not promote in any religion in the state. Turkey is however a 'Secular republic' based on thier constitution, it is completely different to other states, because it strictly monitors all religious activities taking place, and does not allow religious observation in public places. So basically in a Muslim type of perspective, they will view this map as from Religious to non-religious, and how the government views Islam.Moshino31 (talk) 21:23, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Islam in China template
Hi I've see that you've had success in the past dealing with Editingman's edits, could you possible keep an eye on this template (Template:Islam and China)? He has been reinserting several individuals into the template that I originally took out on the basis that these individuals are not "major figures" in the history of Islam in China, for example, Hui Liangyu, a Communist official or Ma Bufang a Kuomintang warlord whose career ended in a scandal with his niece. Thanks Abstrakt (talk) 00:56, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Hi I feel that those figures should be left out since the template lists "major figures" in the history of Islam in China, and Editingman has not provided any reason why they are important figures in the history of Islam in China besides "I think they are important". For example, Hui Liangyu a Communist official who is supposed to be officially atheist, Ma Bufang a Kuomintang warlord whose career ended in a scandal trying to force his niece to be one of his concubines, and Lan Yu a Ming dynasty general who happened to be Muslim. These individuals, other than the fact they were of Hui background do not really stand out as being notable figures in the history of Islam in China compared to figures like Liu Zhi, an Islamic scholar who wrote on Islam and Confucian philosophy. Abstrakt (talk) 23:28, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Edit summaries
Please stop using capitals in your edit summaries. It is unnecessary and shows poor etiquette. Thank you. PageantUpdater talk • contribs  08:44, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Your "About Me" stuff
Hey Angelo, great job on your userboxes etc.! I hope you don't mind that I used your template to create my own: Uses:Saimdusan. Saimdusan Talk|Contribs 04:13, 11 May 2008 (UTC)


 * No problem! Angelo De La Paz (talk) 04:22, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

User_talk:124.186.57.197#May_2008
User_talk:124.186.57.197, that was the IP I used (I didn't know I was logged out). How was that vandalism? Saimdusan Talk|Contribs 07:07, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Chinese Mythology
Hey Angelo, I realize you have undid my deletion on the Chinese Mythology article… I am new at editing so I am unsure how people usually remove incorrect information… I have only deleted information posted by user: ACHKC which does not have credible citation or references and they are extremely questionable. There have been discussion in WikiProject Taoism regarding how to undo the damage ACHKC did to the Taoism related articles and most have been slowly fixed varies different users.

If you do not approve of my deletion then please advice me on how to properly remove those information as soon as possible. I am simply trying to restore the article back to the point before ACHKC editing. Bio-capsule (talk) 10:08, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

May 2008
Thank you for making a report on Administrator intervention against vandalism. Reporting and removing vandalism is vital to the functioning of Wikipedia and all users are encouraged to revert, warn, and report vandalism. However, it appears that the editor you reported may not have engaged in vandalism, or the user was not sufficiently or appropriately warned. Please note there is a difference between vandalism and unhelpful or misguided edits made in good faith. If they continue to vandalise after a recent final warning, please re-report it. Thank you! Toddst1 (talk) 21:40, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Hello Angelo Paz,

See this picture http://images4.dantri.com.vn/Uploaded/thuhang/hh2141107.jpg if you care about the truth in Wikipedia. Glebova's husband according to Wikipedia is 6'1, so she is not 5'11. N. Glebova's Ethnicity is not "white", it is "Russian".

Bsam1000 (talk) 23:17, 29 May 2008 (UTC)