User talk:AngryCraig

Your submission at Articles for creation
 You recently made a submission to Articles for Creation. Your article has been reviewed and because some issues were found, it could not be accepted in its current form; it is now located at Wikipedia&. Please view your submission to see the comments left by the reviewer. Feel free to edit the submission to address the issues raised, and resubmit once you feel they have been resolved. (You can do this by adding the text to the top of the article.) Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia! ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛ Talk Email 11:15, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation
 You recently made a submission to Articles for Creation. Your article has been reviewed and because some issues were found, it could not be accepted in its current form; it is now located at Wikipedia&. Please view your submission to see the comments left by the reviewer. Feel free to edit the submission to address the issues raised, and resubmit once you feel they have been resolved. (You can do this by adding the text to the top of the article.) Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia! Chiswick Chap (talk) 14:37, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Grimsby Ice Bears


A tag has been placed on Grimsby Ice Bears requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a club, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, contest the deletion by clicking on the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". Doing so will take you to the talk page where you will find a pre-formatted place for you to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit the the page's talk page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, you can contact one of these administrators to request that the administrator userfy the page or email a copy to you. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 15:06, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

Confused
Andy Craig*, I'm glad that you chose to use the Articles for Creation process to receive feedback on your proposed article before publishing it. This process helps new editors understand some of the ins and outs of Wikipedia and produce better articles. However, I'm confused as to why, having submitted your article to AfC and received negative feedback on it, you chose to publish it anyway? You were told by two separate editors that the article was unacceptable for a variety of reasons. Now that you have published it, it has been nominated for speedy deletion because of those same reasons. If you're going to use the process, then please abide by the results of the process. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 15:12, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
 * * I misread your user name. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 15:54, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

Deletion
Basically, a club founded two days ago has not a cat in hell's chance of establishing notability or significance, unless some billionaire bought up 10% of the top professionals in Canada and moved them all to Grimsby overnight. Even then, with no coverage in reliable independent sources WP:RS it wouldn't be considered notable until there were such coverage. The Red Wings can claim a long history - but that is not proven here at present. I've tagged that article for possible lack of notability (partly to stir people into action) and for a definite lack of references, reliable or otherwise. (That's not tagged for deletion, but for needing work done. Pass word on - it needs doing.) The Bears have no history, no references, and a slight hint of spam in the remark about looking for recruits. Some day, yes. Could be tomorrow - but please ask for an opinion on whatever you think makes them fit our policies. Note that it's our definition of notability, not whatever is in your dictionary (or mine...). Much of it is in WP:GNG. Good luck with the club, anyway. Peridon (talk) 18:51, 14 October 2011 (UTC)