User talk:Anitrain

January 2009
Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, one or more of the external links you added do not comply with our guidelines for external links and have been removed. Wikipedia is not a collection of links; nor should it be used for advertising or promotion. Since Wikipedia uses nofollow tags, external links do not alter search engine rankings. If you feel the link should be added to the article, please discuss it on the before reinserting it. Please take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. NrDg 02:34, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

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I'm sorry, but since external links use the nofollow tag, what's the harm in linking to a site that's about the show? I thought the whole point of wikipedia was for users to help other people find information and resources related to subjects that said user knows and is aware of. (And I hope I edited this talk page properly.) Anitrain (talk) 09:29, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
 * No, the whole point of this site is to be an encyclopedia and have complete articles with well referenced information supported with verifiable reliable sources. See WP:external links and WP:What Wikipedia is not for the rules we follow and why. --NrDg 14:49, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Okay, but on the What Wikipedia is not page, it clearly states "On articles about topics with many fansites, for example, including a link to one major fansite may be appropriate." And on the External links page under the What should be linked section it mentions "Sites with other meaningful, relevant content that is not suitable for inclusion in an article, such as reviews and interviews." The Sonny site doesn't yet have reviews, but it does have screencaps and a collection of development videos both of which are relevant to the topic, but cannot be incorporated into the Wikipedia article. Anitrain (talk) 07:35, 29 January 2009 (UTC)


 * That "one major fansite" that is permitted is usually the official site sponsored by the article subject or for Disney shows, Disney, not some anonymous random fan. See for example http://www.mileyworld.com for Miley Cyrus. We avoid links to unreliable information and to sites that host copyright violations (images and videos with no permission usually) which most unofficial fan-sites are known to do. Reviews that are usable (by professional reviewers not anonymous fans) are linked to directly, not via a fan-site. Any official videos and images are linked to directly, not via a fan site. There is really never anything of value in an anonymous fan-site that can't be linked to directly. Forums and comments by fans, which is what is left, have no encyclopedic value. Also, videos and images are really easy to edit so any video or image posted by anonymous and therefore untrusted people on fan sites and other video hosting services like YouTube cannot be trusted to have not been modified. We need to link to official sources that are trusted. "Sites with other meaningful, relevant content that is not suitable for inclusion in an article, such as reviews and interviews." still have to meet our rules for reliable sources which anonymous fan sites don't.


 * Given the above and also the strong desire of people who create and run fan-sites to get free exposure on wiki to their newly created web site almost all wiki editors, not just me, identify fan-site links as spam and treat them as such. The likelihood of any unofficial fansite link remaining in any article is almost nil. --NrDg 16:35, 29 January 2009 (UTC)