User talk:Anne Delong/Archive 15

This is the archive of messages posted on Anne Delong's talk page, April to June, 2016.

Please comment on Talk:List of films considered the best
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Ho Sin Hang
Hi Anne Delong, thanks for your effort rescuing this long abandoned draft. I've expanded and copyedited it a bit more and nominated the article for DYK, please see the nomination page. Best regards, -Zanhe (talk) 19:17, 16 April 2016 (UTC)


 * Yes, Zanhe, I saw that. There seem to be an endless number of draft articles needing improvement, so I usually stop working on a page as soon as I feel it will pass an AfD nomination. Thanks for taking that one a little further.&mdash;Anne Delong (talk) 22:17, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

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Draft:Haier India concern
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Mass content removal
I'm sure your edits at Maxinquaye were made in good faith, but I don't agree with your rationale for removing so much, based on claims that the material you removed in some way was "promotional" or "trivial" or fancruft; like what made Tricky want to work with Saunders in the first place, or Tricky's extensive vinyl collection at his home being the source of the samples used on the record... your removal was jarring to say the least. This was also presumptuous; no source explicitly says who ended up buying the album generally. Dan56 (talk) 15:12, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

Hello, Dan56. Here are my thoughts:


 * Just because something is true doesn't mean it should be in an encyclopedia, which should stick to information that has been written about extensively by journalists. If you can find a professional journalist who has written about Tricky's motivation in working with Saunders (not Tricky or someone close to him in an interview) then it would make the cut.
 * I took out the bit about the albums being spread around the floor as trivial. The sentence didn't say that they were part of his personal collection - which may be relevant if a reference can be found to support that.
 * On your third point, what I wrote is my interpretation of what the sentence I changed meant. The sentence was kind of vague, and I don't think the word "progressive" has a definable meaning when referring to listeners. Maybe you can rewrite that sentence so it is more accurate and yet makes sense. What does "rely on independent promoters" mean - did they subcontract the promotion? to whom?  I took "rely on British demographic of progressive, young music buyers rather than American markets" to mean it was marketed in the UK and not in the US during the first few months and bought by young people.

I have opened a section on the talk page of the article, and I am going to put a link to this discussion there, since more interested people will see it.&mdash;Anne Delong (talk) 15:57, 25 April 2016 (UTC)


 * Like I said, your edits and rationale were presumptuous; the source citing Tricky's motivation for recording with Saunders is stated by the interviewer, but I dont agree with your perspective anyway, so I dont think it matters whether it was the interviewer or the interviewee, just that it received coverage in a published source. An interview, including quotable material, is third-party coverage, and that's the threshold for inclusion. You seem to be touching on "extensive" coverage, which is relevant in how much weight is given to particular points of view, not whether something can be included altogether. I disagree with your opinion that the other thing about Tricky's vinyl records is trivial. Dan56 (talk) 16:31, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Ho Sin Hang
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Please comment on Talk:Indo-Pakistani wars and conflicts
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Please comment on Talk:Frank Auerbach
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Requesting feedback
Over at WT:X, I made a comment about whether you as an individual think maybe there could be cases where a draft up for deletion might contain, basically, sufficient reasonable content for possible inclusion elsewhere, maybe at like wikia. I have very little, if any, real history there, but think that, in at least a few cases, the content might be best kept available somewhere. As someone who knows a lot more about drafts than I do, I figure you might be best able to figure out, how, if at all, it might make sense to maybe do something along those lines. John Carter (talk) 17:29, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I replied on the other page.&mdash;Anne Delong (talk) 23:56, 9 May 2016 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:To Pimp a Butterfly
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Please comment on Talk:Time (Electric Light Orchestra album)
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Honda CR480
Hello, thanks for moving this to mainspace. I stumbled on it around the same time you rescued it, last year some time I think. I fettled it up some but then got a bit stuck for refs. So again, thanks for taking it on and completing the job. Regards, Eagleash (talk) 16:55, 29 May 2016 (UTC)

Hello, Eagleash. Glad to help. By the way, I had never heard of the word "fettle", so I looked it up and then wrote this.&mdash;Anne Delong (talk) 18:03, 29 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Haha, that's great. It's a term I use quite a lot and I've seen it used a fair amount on Wiki to refer to general 'tidying' efforts. I knew it had some archaic meaning but wasn't sure where it originated. It's a good term for motorcycling too. Vintage bike enthusiasts will likely spend more time fettling their ancient Nortons or Triumphs, than riding them. Eagleash (talk) 19:41, 29 May 2016 (UTC)

Help with Vandal
The Haliwa-Saponi's article and talk page continues to get vandal by user 184.0.130.188 They had a warning on their talk page other day by another user for same thing but it appears the person may be deleting their own talk page or something as the warnings disappear. It appears they are attempting to wipe out the talk page as well. *edit: I noticed theystill have 1 warning but on one of their other talk pages, they have a different ip each time, other ip's they used is, 184.0.128.214, 184.0.134.37, 184.0.134.55

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haliwa-Saponi — Preceding unsigned comment added by 104.156.112.159 (talk) 13:25, 30 May 2016 (UTC)

Thank you, I could not get the source links to work again after the guy had deleted them, could not figure out why they was not clickable after he deleted them. The guy had been deleting the talk page also and the talk page had more sources. But I am glad they are working again now. Here was some other sources if they are needed http://www.indianz.com/News/2011/001309.asp http://www.ncauditor.net/EPSWeb/Reports/Investigative/INV-2011-0363.pdf — Preceding unsigned comment added by 104.156.112.159 (talk) 18:20, 30 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Hello, 104.156.112.159. I added the links so that I could check out the contents of the references.  I have no opinion as whether the text you like should or shouldn't be in the article. I see that the article has been semi-protected by Widr.  I don't believe that the person who was changing the article was a vandal, just someone who disagreed with the content and tried to change it (a "content dispute"}.  A vandal is someone who spoils articles for fun or out of meanness.   Removing other people's comments on an article talk page, is of course, inappropriate, but sometimes new editors don't know that. Replacing them was the right thing to do.  Removing comments on his or her own talk page is perfectly fine though, and shows that they were read.  I am also curious as to what you meant about the references being "approved".  As far as I know, admins don't approve references, and the only one I see who has edited the article actually reverted the page to the version by the IP you are complaining about. Please don't assume that because I added some detail to the references I was "approving" them.  When the protection runs out, please consider using WP:Third opinion or WP:RFC to settle the disagreement.&mdash;Anne Delong (talk) 19:39, 30 May 2016 (UTC)

There has been numerous admins discuss the page before, there has been diiscussions on admin pages over the stuff, and there was stuff added to the talk page over that section for awhile. The guy with the 184 ip is from the haliwa group, he even had issues with the news media doing stories over their audits, him and his friends told media that they have no right disclosing their audits or disclosing their school incident (even though this stuff was all government funds paid by tax payers). There has been alot of controversy with their group since 1970's. To date their group has not been approved by the BIA (which over see's these type of groups). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 104.156.112.159 (talk) 22:27, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

"In Wikipedia, verifiability means that anyone using the encyclopedia can check that the information comes from a reliable source. Wikipedia does not publish original research. Its content is determined by previously published information rather than the beliefs or experiences of its editors. Even if you're sure something is true, it must be verifiable before you can add it.[1] When reliable sources disagree, present what the various sources say, give each side its due weight, and maintain a neutral point of view." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Verifiability — Preceding unsigned comment added by 104.156.112.159 (talk) 22:37, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

Here is examples showing the guy has been warned numerous times before but always comes back https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:184.0.134.37

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:166.182.80.164

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:166.182.80.164 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 104.156.112.159 (talk) 22:47, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

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Please comment on Talk:Duke Ellington
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Thanks for your contribution on Adam Gubman article
for the efforts you putted on this article. I could not properly care about it lately, but you made a nice work. Thanks again. --Giovanni Armocida
 * Hello, . I noticed that article because I was improving an existing page in Draft space about this person. Since there is no need for two pages, I moved my information to the one you created.  I am concerned, though, that the page is becoming more like a CV than an encyclopedia article, which should be a summary of a composer's life, not a detailed list of all compositions no matter how minor.  I've made a comment to this effect on the article talk page.&mdash;Anne Delong (talk) 13:44, 13 June 2016 (UTC)

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Vandal
There is a vandal on the Haliwa-Saponi wikipedia page which is now using mobile phones to mess up the page, they have messed with the talk page and the main page, they seem to continue doing this for awhile now using various ips. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.201.56.66 (talk) 23:29, 30 June 2016 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:2600:1004:B048:69A7:D1BD:9EA8:C8C2:31C6&action=edit&redlink=1 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.201.56.66 (talk) 23:30, 30 June 2016 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:76.6.144.226&action=edit&redlink=1