User talk:Anne Teyssèdre

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Hello Akrasia25, Thank you for helping me with this editing task, and for reviewing the text.

I have two questions/remarks:

- May I take a pseudo(name) for this editing task? Proposed pseudo : WikiBeetle

- About the paragraph I added yesterday (on the Holocene extinction, section 'Agriculture'): The edited version of the paragraph does not well expose my argument. I indicate below added terms in majuscules, and proposed corrections in square brackets : "The MASSIVE [clearing]->[conversion] of [land]->[forests and other rich habitats] for use as pastureland, with less [overall natural resources]->[carrying capacity for birds (and for other less studied organisms), has reduced the [carrying capacity of the Earth birds] -> the global avifauna ((= global bird community)) in number of individuals" [50], hence also in number of species expected at equilibrium [51].

NB: This las point is important, dealing with extinctions. ((To explain further, I could also mention/explain the concept of extinction debt, if needed..)) OK for you?

Kindly, WikiBeetle 2A01:CB08:54:1100:1D2B:5AB0:2602:54DC (talk) 09:13, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

2A01:CB08:54:1100:1D2B:5AB0:2602:54DC (talk) 09:13, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

Dear WikiBeetle;

Thanks for the questions 1. If you want to message someone either use the replyto or ping template so that they are notified that they have a message. Only if people are following other editor's talk pages would they see this message.

2. I would avoid a name like wikibeetle. I can not point to a policy against that name but my first name had "BOT" in it and I was asked to change it as Wiki has a lot of automatic bots that could confuse editors. Changing is not too hard and most editors do not want to put out their real name.

3. Regarding the edit you want to make, have a look at BOLD, revert, discuss cycle and go and make the change on the page. Then go to the article's talk page and open a new section to try to explain why you made the change. The page Extinction debt already exists so you might just have to refer to that page for interested people. --Akrasia25 (talk) 13:42, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

Your edits on Holocene extinction
I see you're rather adamant to add some variation of, "which–following the species-individual relationship stated noticeably by R. H. MacArthur and E. O. Wilson in 1967–must reduce the global number of birds species expected at term." It's my understanding that, if we break this sentence down, it effectively says Earth's carrying capacity for birds–that is, the global number of birds expected at term/equilibrium–has been reduced, which the previous sentence, "[land clearing] has considerably reduced the Earth’s carrying capacity for wild birds," already states. This, as you can see, causes a very unnecessary redundancy with unnecessary jargon and factoids. If we can keep it simple, keep it simple, so, with your go-ahead, I'd like to remove that sentence.  User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 02:43, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

Dear Dunkleosteus, The point is that a reduction of the Earth carrying capacity for wild birds does not only result in a reduction of the (wild) avifauna in number of individuals (as estimated by Gaston et al. 2003), but also in NUMBER OF SPECIES (Teyssèdre & Couvet, 2004, 2007) (due to the species-individuals relationship stated by Preston 1959, MCArthur and Wilson 1967, Hubbell 2001..). This last point seems to me important to stress, dealing with species extinctions. Anne Teyssèdre (talk) 15:45, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Well that was not getting across at all. I suggest "[land clearing] has considerably reduced the Earth’s carrying capacity for wild birds in both [population size]->[community size] and species count"  User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 15:50, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

Hi again; Yes, this last formulation seems (almost) OK.. But could you replace 'population size' by 'community size', because it is the total size of the (wild) bird community, i.e. the total number of (wild) birds, of all species, which is forced by the Earth carrying capacity for birds ? Thank you, Anne Teyssèdre (talk) 16:25, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Population should reflect the same idea (community in this instance is synonymous with population since they're both in reference to the total number of birds), and I'd argue community is a vaguer term because it can also be taken to reference flock sizes  User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 17:19, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

OK Dunkleosteus, as you wish, thank you. Anne Teyssèdre (talk) 17:25, 21 January 2019 (UTC)