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Guide to referencing
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I thought you might find it useful to have some information about references (refs) on wikipedia. These are important to validate your writing and inform the reader. Any editor can removed unreferenced material; and unsubstantiated articles may end up getting deleted, so when you add something to an article, it's highly advisable to also include a reference to say where it came from. Referencing may look daunting, but it's easy enough to do. Here's a guide to getting started.

Good references
A reference must be accurate, i.e. it must prove the statement in the text. To validate "Mike Brown climbed Everest", it's no good linking to a page about Everest, if Mike Brown isn't mentioned, nor to one on Mike Brown, if it doesn't say that he climbed Everest. You have to link to a source that proves his achievement is true. You must use reliable sources, such as published books, mainstream press, authorised web sites, and official documents. Blogs, Myspace, Youtube, fan sites and extreme minority texts are not usually acceptable, nor is original research, e.g. your own unpublished, or self-published, essay or research.

Inserting a reference
The first thing you have to do is to create a "Notes and references" section (unless it already exists). This goes towards the bottom of the page, below the "See also" section and above the "External links" section. Enter this code:


 * ==Notes and references==

The next step is to put a reference in the text. Here is the code to do that. It goes at the end of the relevant term, phrase, sentence, or paragraph to which the note refers, and after punctuation such as a full stop, without a space (to prevent separation through line wrap):



Whatever text you put in between these two tags will become visible in the "Notes and references" section as your reference.

Test it out
Open the edit box for this page, copy the following text (inserting your own text where indicated), paste it at the bottom of the page and save the page:


 * ==Reference test==


 * This is the text which you are going to verify with a reference.


 * ==Notes and references==



(End of text to copy and paste.)

It should appear like this:


 * Reference test


 * This is the text which you are going to verify with a reference.


 * Notes and references



Information to include
You need to include the information to enable the reader to find your source. For an online newspaper source, it might look like this:



When uploaded, it appears as:
 * Plunkett, John. "Sorrell accuses Murdoch of panic buying", The Guardian, 2005-10-27. Retrieved on 2005-10-27.

Note the single square brackets around the URL and the article title. The format is:
 * [http://URL "Title of article"]

Make sure there is a space between the URL and the Title. This code results in the URL being hidden and the title showing as a link. Use double apostrophes for the article title (it is quoted text), and two single quote marks either side of the name of the paper (to generate italics). Double square brackets round the name of the paper create an internal link (a wikilink) to the relevant wikipedia article. Apostrophes must go outside the brackets.

The date after The Guardian is the date of the newspaper, and the date after "Retrieved on" is the date you accessed the site – useful for searching the web archive in case the link goes dead. Dates are wikilinked so that they work with user preference settings to display the date in the format the user wishes.

References not online
You can use sources which are not online, but which you have found in a library or elsewhere&mdash;in which case leave out the information which is not relevant. The newspaper example above would be formatted like this:

When uploaded, it appears as:
 * Plunkett, John. "Sorrell accuses Murdoch of panic buying", The Guardian, 2005-10-27.

Here is an example for a book:



When uploaded, it appears as:
 * Charmley, John (2006). The Princess and the Politicians. Penguin Books Ltd., London. ISBN 0140289712.

Make sure you put two single quote marks round the title (to generate italics), rather than one double quote mark.

Date format
These formats are all acceptable for dates:
 * 2005-10-27
 * 27 January 2007
 * January 27, 2007

Citation templates
You may prefer to use a citation template to compile details of the source. The template goes between the ref tags and you fill out the fields you wish to. Basic templates can be found here: Template messages/Sources of articles/Citation quick reference

Same ref used twice or more
The first time a reference appears in the article, you can give it a simple name in the

The second time you use the same reference in the article, you need only to create a short cut instead of typing it all out again:



You can then use the short cut as many times as you want. Don't forget the /, or it will blank the rest of the article! A short cut will only pick up from higher up the page, so make sure the first ref is the full one. Some symbols don't work in the ref name, but you'll find out if you use them.

You can see multiple use of the same refs in action in the article William Bowyer (artist). There are 3 sources and they are each referenced 3 times. Each statement in the article has a footnote to show what its source is.

Alternative system
The above method is simple and combines references and notes into one section. A refinement is to put the full details of the references in their own section headed "References", while the notes which apply to them appear in a separate section headed "Notes". The notes can be inserted in the main article text in an abbreviated form as seen in Harriet Arbuthnot or in a full form as in Brown Dog affair.

Further information
More information can be found at:
 * Citing sources
 * Citing sources/example style
 * Template messages/Sources of articles/Citation quick reference
 * Citation templates
 * Footnotes

I hope this helps. If you need any assistance, let me know.

Tyrenius (talk) 04:35, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
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Welcome to WP! Let me know if I can help in any way...Annlanding 04:45, 15 June 2007 (UTC)editstat7

Request for image of artist or painting in public domain? Annlanding

I would like to request useage of an image from artist website and would be happy to use a watermark for copyright infringement. Any possibilities? Annlanding 16:33, 16 October 2007 (UTC)Annlanding

Could be several images or one of artist-btw.

talk:Doris Downes

 * Apologies, but this is not vandalism. I have exchanged the tag for a more appropriate one that would enhance/encourage to build the subject, which is the more positive approach.  It appears that you have a history of denegrating this person and I am going to have to defer this to an administrator.  If this subject is so vile to you, why not delete it all together? Annlanding (talk) 03:21, 29 December 2007 (UTC)Annlanding


 * I'm an admin and I've been asked to have a look. I can confirm that "official" notices, such as the result of WP:AFD should never be removed. You are actually doing a disservice to the article, as the fact it has been to AFD and not been deleted is in its favour. Also, other editors' comments should not be altered on a talk page or deleted, except for extreme circumstances (e.g. libel). Check out WP:TPG. Thanks. Tyrenius (talk) 04:41, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

An article can be re-nominated for AfD multiple times by anyone, even after a keep decision. The best insurance is to make a well-written, soundly referenced article that will demonstrate its worth to other editors. Normally admins close AfD discussions (NB not votes) and weigh up the arguments. See Guide to deletion and Deletion_process. Tyrenius (talk) 20:55, 4 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Material can be deleted if it's not referenced. I would advise getting started straight away, adding referenced material bit by bit and building up the article. There is often brouha on wikipedia. This article is not by any means exceptional. Tyrenius (talk) 21:28, 8 January 2008 (UTC)


 * This article is going through a rewrite for bio and nt.

Tibor de Nagy
Hi! I noticed a couple of days ago that you edited Grace Hartigan to add a wikilink to Tibor de Nagy but there is no page for him (or the gallery). Good old Tibor is mentioned in quite a number of pages so I agree, he should have an article; were you planning to follow up the addition of the wikilink by creating one for him? (You can respond here if you like, I have your talk page Watched.) --Bookgrrl holler/ lookee here 06:27, 5 January 2008 (UTC)


 * I had planned to eventually start a page for Tibor, long overdue- such an important figure in his time in helping develop so many talented artists (in addition to being a most interesting and gracious person). If you'd like to start one, please do and I can add to it or vise-versa.  Good ol Tibor- still miss him.Annlanding (talk) 21:10, 8 January 2008 (UTC)Annlanding


 * Update, this is underway and could use some help in citing sources. So much information to sort through and so very interesting.Annlanding (talk) 00:04, 17 January 2008 (UTC)Annlanding

Star
Thanks for that. Appreciated. I wonder if you have more details of content in: If so, it would be useful to include them in the article. Also any other secondary sources would be good. Print sources can be used as refs, but should have exact details preferably, as in article title, page number, author (if given) etc. Is Downes talked about in Hughes autobiography, which you said you had access to? If so, that can be cited. It wasn't an AfD tag, by the way: it was a "notability" tag, which does not ask for deletion, but may anticipate such a request. Tyrenius (talk) 22:09, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
 * J. J. Navarro Arisa [1] El Mundo, Madrid.
 * ABC Newspaper, Madrid-Cataluna, Dolors Massot, May 8, 2003


 * Sorry, I made a mistake. I didn't mean Navarro, which I've already translated. I meant "Your Biggest Investment Smart Money Magazine, December 1996, Vol. V - Number XII". A ref is needed for Sotheby's Vice President also. Tyrenius (talk) 22:32, 11 February 2008 (UTC)


 * I called the Society of Publications Designers and they gave me the title of the cover that got the award (with some degree of difficulty). They do not have archives online.  As per Sothebys, it is unclear how to get a citation for this other than calling Human Resources but don't know if they would give out this information. Annlanding (talk) 23:52, 11 February 2008 (UTC)Annlanding


 * Not to worry. What's "D.M."? Tyrenius (talk) 08:38, 12 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Ah, I see. The D.M. piece would be very useful. Tyrenius (talk) 21:29, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Please comment on Abstract art article
The Abstract art page has a 'requests for improving article' and 'WikiProject Visual arts' template. I have begun a text on the discussion page Talk:Abstract art under 12. 'suggestion for text'. Your comments would be very welcome and needed to get towards a balanced, comprehensive article with links to the related pages. Thanks. paula clare (talk) 16:30, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

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