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Your GA nomination of Burnside Burn
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Burnside Burn you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Cirt -- Cirt (talk) 14:41, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Fantastic! Thank you. I am quite busy this weekend but I will get around to making changes per your review as soon as possible. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 04:16, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Burnside Burn
The article Burnside Burn you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold. The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Burnside Burn for things which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Cirt -- Cirt (talk) 22:21, 3 October 2015 (UTC)

Socks and sandals question
Your opinion would be valued at Talk:Socks in sandals. - Brianhe (talk) 15:16, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 00:14, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

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Your GA nomination of The Dougy Center
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article The Dougy Center you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Cirt -- Cirt (talk) 09:21, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of The Dougy Center
The article The Dougy Center you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold. The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:The Dougy Center for things which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Cirt -- Cirt (talk) 23:00, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Not sure why the bot is not messaging you autoupdates after they get successfully promoted, but congratulations! :) &mdash; Cirt (talk) 05:15, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks again! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 05:37, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

Portal:Oregon/Good articles
Thanks for your continued Good Article projects. Please remember to add your new Oregon-related GAs to the portal subpage. Great work! Jsayre64 (talk)  02:34, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Miley Cyrus & Her Dead Petz
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Thanks for turning me onto a new artist
I didn't realize that Wayne Chabre had such an interesting body of work. I didn't know anybody had done a bust of John Von Neumann, for instance. Are you planning to write an article? — Brianhe (talk) 17:34, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
 * P.S. started Draft:John von Neumann (sculpture) just now. — Brianhe (talk) 17:43, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks. His work is quite interesting and he is deserving of an article. I don't have immediate plans to start an article about him, but that's only because my personal preference is to create articles about individuals works of art, more so than artist biographies. By the way, your draft is a duplicate of Portrait Head of Von Neumann. Would you care to merge your draft into the existing article. I am open to renaming the page, but I wanted to start with the Smithsonian source and I was not sure of the sculpture's 'common name'. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 18:24, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Aw darn, I thought I started something new. Go ahead and merge if you have time. I do think, however, from my quick research that John von Neumann is the common name. I'll keep the Chabre bio on the list of "things to do someday". - Brianhe (talk) 18:29, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your work, nonetheless. I will try to merge the info. In the meantime, if you have an interest in public art / sculpture in Oregon, you might check out Oregon Arts Project/Visual Arts/Sculpture and its talk page. I mostly use it as a checklist and resource, but you can see which works have existing articles and which need to be created. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 18:32, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Draft:Wayne Chabre started just now. — Brianhe (talk) 20:27, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 13:59, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

The Pioneer Mother Memorial
Hey AB, I just reviewed The Pioneer Mother Memorial for the GOCE. I made a few small changes but overall it looks quite good. I did have a few questions about certain minor details, though. One, in the infobox you give the condition per the 1995 report, but the main text says that it has been renovated since then. Two, the quote says that Esther is not "armed with a gun", yet she's holding a rifle. You correctly quoted the source, but it appears to be a self-published book, so perhaps not the best source, especially for a block quote. Perhaps you could find another description of the statue, like a book about Fairbanks that includes descriptions of his sculptures? Cheers, Tdslk (talk) 19:51, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your time and assistance. In the infobox, I replaced "treatment needed" with "Renovated c. 2000". Does that work? Also, I went ahead and removed the block quote, per your suggestion. Thanks again! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 14:09, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

coord missing and Statue of Frederick the Great (Charlottenburg Palace)
Hello, and thanks for your contributions! I'd like to ask one thing: could you please use the "coord missing" template, instead of "coords missing", when creating new articles? While the second redirects to the former, and thus works fine in articles, using "coord missing" directly makes a number of automated bot workflows work better by eliminating the overhead of having to track down the uses of "coords missing" to eliminate the redirects. Thanks, -- The Anome (talk) 11:22, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes, I have already started using "coord missing" for new articles. For the longest time, I was using "coords missing" because I was thinking "coordinates" (plural). But, I've corrected my usage and thanks for the reminder! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 14:02, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you! -- The Anome (talk) 14:10, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Update: I've now converted all the remaining instances of coords missing in articles to use coord missing instead, so everything should now be resolved. -- The Anome (talk) 12:15, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

Movement Wide Finance Report 2014
Dear Believer,

I’m Alex, currently a finance fellow (i.e intern) at the Wikimedia Foundation. I worked before for Wikimedia France, planning the Hackathon Lyon 2015 mainly. I'm today contacting you because of your activity for Wikimedia North Carolina Triangle User Group.

Last year, Finance Fellows produced a financial report that included financial activity from every chapters. It was great and has been presented at the Wikimania in Mexico.

If you haven’t seen the results of the Report 2013, here they are: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Chapter-wide_Financial_Trends_Report_2013

We’re currently starting the Report 2014 and this year we also want to include user groups to improve the scope of our work. I want to tell you that I’ve tried to make the process as short and easy as possible, so that shouldn’t require a lot of your time.

The aim of such a report is global. It helps having an idea of how the money is used across the movement, it helps chapters and user groups to learn about best practice and finally it leads to more transparency through a qualitative work, which I believe is important.

Could you briefly tell me if you had any income and expenses in 2014? If you are not the person responsible for this, please tell me who is the user the most likely to know this information.

I’ll be your contact for this project this year, I’m looking forward to working with you!

Cheers, ACella (WMF) (talk) 23:27, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi, Alex. I support the Wikimedia North Carolina Triangle User Group and its activities, but I am not connected to the group in any official capacity. I am more involved with the Cascadia Wikimedians User Group and the Wikimedia LGBT+ User Group. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:24, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

Replaceable fair use File:Bear Gargoyle, University of Oregon, 2015.jpg
Thanks for uploading File:Bear Gargoyle, University of Oregon, 2015.jpg. I noticed that this file is being used under a claim of fair use. However, I think that the way it is being used fails the first non-free content criterion. This criterion states that files used under claims of fair use may have no free equivalent; in other words, if the file could be adequately covered by a freely-licensed file or by text alone, then it may not be used on Wikipedia. If you believe this file is not replaceable, please:


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Alternatively, you can also choose to replace this non-free media item by finding freely licensed media of the same subject, requesting that the copyright holder release this (or similar) media under a free license, or by creating new media yourself (for example, by taking your own photograph of the subject).

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 * I am not sure I understand. How can we use a free image when the subject is a contemporary sculpture? --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:28, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
 * The reason is that since the structure still exists, nearly anyone can go to it, take a photo, and upload it with a free license (similar to how we can take new photos of living people, but not photos of the deceased.) I saw other articles concerning this artist's works, and the other ones with images: their images have free licenses. Steel1943  (talk) 01:33, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
 * OK, I still don't understand. I uploaded images for the Wayne Charbre sculptures the same way, and took them all myself. What makes this one different from the others? --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:37, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure what you mean, given that the other images I found from this artist of their creations are on Wikimedia Commons, and are thus free images. The one you uploaded in question here is not. Did you take the photo that we are discussing? Steel1943  (talk) 01:42, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Ah, sorry, my bad. I have been uploading a series of images of sculptures in Eugene, but that did not include the images of Chabre's sculptures. Yes, I did take the image we are discussing (of Bear Gargoyle). However, these are all works by the same artist from the same era. I uploaded the Bear Gargoyle image the same way I do any images of contemporary sculptures to Wikipedia (and I've uploaded a lot). Based on my understanding, it is actually the images hosted at Commons that are problematic, not the one being used under a fair use license here at English Wikipedia. Again, these are photographs of contemporary sculptures, so shouldn't they be hosted locally and not at Wikimedia Commons? --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:51, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Then, in this case, what you will need to do to resolve this concern with the licensing tag (saying that the image is copyrighted) is to replace the copyright license tag with free license tags (if you want to release this image for free use. However, if you claim a copyright on this image, the procedure is somewhat different (but i do not think that you are taking this route.) Also, some additional details that should be changed on the image's page after releasing the image as stated previously is ... changing the Non-free use rationale 2 template to an Information template, removing the speedy tag I placed (obviously), and if you want, tagging it eligible to be moved to Wikipedia Commons with the Copy to Commons template (unless you just want to move it yourself.) Steel1943  (talk) 02:02, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you for responding in detail, but I have trouble understanding how to best resolve. Perhaps it is just best to delete the image and I can try re-uploading again. I must have done something wrong along the way, but I've uploaded dozens of images of contemporary sculptures without difficulty. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 02:08, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Maybe this information will help: When you went through the File Upload Wizard, you probably chose "This is a copyrighted work..." instead of "This is a free work". If going through the wizard again would be the best way to get this image tagged right, I'd say place Db-g7 at the top of the image we are discussing, then go through the upload wizard again. Steel1943  (talk) 02:14, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Ah, ok. I went ahead and replaced the template and I will just re-upload. Thanks for your help. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 14:51, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

OK, I re-uploaded the image, so hopefully all is good now. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 11:59, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Another Believer, this upload has the exact same problems as the last. I'm note why, but I'll try to see if I can help. Speaking of which, if you are releasing this image as a free image, which one of these free licenses do you release it under? Steel1943  (talk) 13:27, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: I went ahead and placed the same speedy tag I put there before since it technically applies right now. If you know which free license you want to use (of you do want to use one) and I'm around Wikipedia (I probably will be for the next hour or so), I'll opt to manually edit the license on the file's page myself. Steel1943  (talk) 13:32, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
 * OK, I give up. Feel free to delete and I won't re-upload. I've uploaded hundreds of images the same way before without problem. Thanks for your help. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 14:35, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Re: your question: I don't know that I have a license preference. I just want the article to be illustrated. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 14:43, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Another Believer, by what you are saying, I think that you may be able to license the image for either Cc-by-4.0 (description) or Cc-by-sa-4.0 (description). Steel1943  (talk) 15:04, 9 October 2015 (UTC)

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2014 White House intrusion
I think before we nominate the article for GA it should undergo a peer review (plus i'd like to refine a few things myself while we're waiting for a peer review). I currently already have an article nominated for peer review and you're only allowed to have one article nominated at a time, so would you be interested in nominating it? :) Freikorp (talk) 08:25, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 17:06, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Well that got a thorough review very quickly. I'll leave it up to you whether you want to keep the peer review open in the hopes of getting more comments or close it and nominate it for GA. In either case be advised I'll probably be taking a considerably long wikibreak starting from November 9, so if the GA nomination remains open past that date you may be the only one watching over it. Freikorp (talk) 11:12, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
 * I closed the peer review (hopefully correctly). You've completed much more work on this article than I have. Do you want to nominate the article for Good status? Co-nominating is also an option, but I don't want to take credit for your work. :) --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 15:40, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Peer review close looks good. Sure, I'll nominate it, thanks. But if you could watch 2014 White House intrusion/GA1 I would appreciate it; in the event it takes several weeks for someone to review it AND I end up taking that wikibreak it will be up to you to address the nominators concerns. :) Freikorp (talk) 15:53, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes, I will definitely add the page to my watchlist. I'd love to see this article reach GA status. Then, I may revisit the other article that was redirected (which I still completely disagree with and think could also reach GA status with a little more work). --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 15:56, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

While we're on the subject of GA, would you be interested in trading music article reviews? I see you have Jacques Gershkovitch nominated and I have nominated DJ AM. I would intend to do a thorough review of your article and would expect you to do likewise, so don't feel bad about failing my nomination if it isn't up to scratch. Also no worries if you don't think it's a good idea to trade or don't have the time, I just hate having things waiting at GAN haha. Freikorp (talk) 23:41, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
 * I appreciate the offer, but I must decline, only because I don't have experience reviewing other articles and, frankly, it is not how I enjoy spending my time. I am much more interested in creating content. :) --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 23:45, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
 * No worries I understand. :) Freikorp (talk) 23:48, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

"Chutes and Ladders"
Will you create this page? Gaga Nutella talk 00:02, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
 * I created a stub for expansion. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:56, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Can you fix something? The title of this article must be in italic; Chutes and Ladders (American Horror Story), not Chutes and Ladders (American Horror Story). Thank you. Gaga Nutella talk 14:39, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 15:34, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

Atatürk's sculptures
Hi, I see that you've created two articles about Atatürk's sculptures. Thanks. However, I don't agree on the titles. "Atatürk's sculpture (XX)" is much better than "Mustafa Kemal Atatürk (XX)" Please consider moving the titles. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 10:36, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your feedback, but I am used to seeing sculptures disambiguated by artist name (per Manual_of_Style/Visual_arts). --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 14:01, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes. "Atatürk's sculpture (XX)" sounds like a sculpture by Ataturk, not of him. And statues should be called statues, if any term is used. Johnbod (talk) 15:57, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

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 * Thanks for the invite. I'm an experienced editor (among Wikipedia's most prolific, actually). I disagree with your assessment of the draft, but that's ok. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 19:30, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

Flight Patterns
Thanks for all your help! — Grand&#39;mere Eugene (talk) 00:06, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Oh, happy to help (not that you needed assistance)! :) --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 02:11, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

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WikiProject X Newsletter • Issue 5
Newsletter • October 2015

Hello there! Happy to be writing this newsletter once more. This month:

We did it!

In July, we launched five pilot WikiProjects: WikiProjects Cannabis, Evolutionary Biology, Ghana, Hampshire, and Women's Health. We also use the new design, named "WPX UI," on WikiProject Women in Technology, Women in Red, WikiProject Occupational Safety and Health. We are currently looking for projects for the next round of testing. If you are interested, please sign up on the Pilots page.

Shortly after our launch we presented at Wikimania 2015. Our slides are on Wikimedia Commons.

Then after all that work, we went through the process of figuring out whether we accomplished our goal. We reached out to participants on the redesigned WikiProjects, and we asked them to complete a survey. (If you filled out your survey—thank you!) While there are still some issues with the WikiProject tools and the new design, there appears to be general satisfaction (at least among those who responded). The results of the survey and more are documented in our grant report filed with the Wikimedia Foundation.

The work continues!

There is more work that needs to be done, so we have applied for a renewal of our grant. Comments on the proposal are welcome. We would like to improve what we have already started on the English Wikipedia and to also expand to Wikimedia Commons and Wikidata. Why those? Because they are multilingual projects and because there needs to be better coordination across Wikimedia projects. More details are available in the renewal proposal.

How can the Wikimedia Foundation support WikiProjects?

The Wikimedia Developer Summit will be held in San Francisco in January 2016. The recently established Community Tech team at the Wikimedia Foundation is interested in investigating what technical support they can provide for WikiProjects, i.e., support beyond just templates and bots. I have plenty of opinions myself, but I want to hear what you think. The session is being planned on Phabricator, the Wikimedia bug tracker. If you are not familiar with Phabricator, you can log in with your Wikipedia username and password through the "Login or Register: MediaWiki" button on the login page. Your feedback can help make editing Wikipedia a better experience.

Until next time,

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DYK for Hello (Adele song)
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Disputed non-free use rationale for File:Wind-Rain Song sculpture by Weltzin Blix, Eugene, Oregon.jpg
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It's not your birthday...
...but I got you a present anyway. – Jonesey95 (talk) 01:38, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Fantastic! Thank you so much! I've been working to populate Category:Outdoor sculptures in Eugene, Oregon lately. This inspires me to keep going. :) --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 02:02, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
 * So if we upload pics here on Wikipedia instead of putting them on Commons, that makes them fair game, uh fair use? 'Cos I deleted my Kesey pics off Commons because of copyright stuff. What pics do you still need? With the caveat that I'm lazy and the light is always bad. I have BTW, pics of Proctor's "Indian Maiden and Fawn" from the basement of the UO art museum. She used to be out front until a vandal attacked her, long ago in the 1970s, so there's a good story there. Valfontis (talk) 02:38, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes, images can be uploaded here at English Wikipedia under fair use. You can use the upload link on the sidebar, then click on "This is a copyrighted, non-free work, but I believe it is Fair Use", followed by "This is a depiction of a copyrighted three-dimensional work or building" along with the other parameters. As far as images go, I think only Bison, Einstein Gargoyle, Encounter, Lady , Great Blue Heron , Three Standing Forms , and Trapezoid E are missing illustrations. You can see my note taking at Oregon Arts Project/Visual Arts/Sculpture and its talk page (Wikipedia talk:Oregon Arts Project/Visual Arts/Sculpture) if you are curious about existing articles and ones that still need to be created (if notable enough). BTW, Indian Maiden and Fawn does appear to be notable enough for an article. I will add this one to the list to be created, unless you want to beat me to the punch! I am happy to see a couple other WPORE editors interested in sculpture/public art. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 02:47, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
 * I should be able to get photos of those. Let me see what I can do. – Jonesey95 (talk) 03:34, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks! -- Another Believer ( Talk ) 03:43, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
 * By the way, if adding images to unillustrated articles is of interest, you might bookmark Category:WikiProject Oregon image requests in Eugene area. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 03:47, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
 * I bagged a Great Blue Heron today. I struck it out above. – Jonesey95 (talk) 20:42, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Nice! Thank you. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 20:55, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

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WikiCup 2015: The results
WikiCup 2015 is now in the books! Congrats to our finalists and winners, and to everyone who took part in this year's competition.

This year's results were an exact replica of last year's competition. For the second year in a row, the 2015 WikiCup champion is. All of his points were earned for an impressive 253 featured pictures and their associated bonus points (5060 and 1695, respectively). His entries constituted scans of currency from all over the world and scans of medallions awarded to participants of the U.S. Space program. came in second place; she earned by far the most bonus points (4082), for 4 featured articles, 15 good articles, and 147 DYKs, mostly about in her field of expertise, natural science. , a finalist every year since 2010, came in third, with 2379 points.

Our newcomer award, presented to the best-performing new competitor in the WikiCup, goes to. Everyone should be very proud of the work they accomplished. We will announce our other award winners soon.

A full list of our award winners are:


 * wins the prize for first place and the FP prize for 330 featured pictures in the final round.
 * wins the prize for second place and the DYK prize for 160 did you knows in the final round (310 in all rounds).
 * wins the prize for third place and the FA prize for 26 featured articles in all rounds.
 * wins the prize for fourth place
 * wins a final 8 prize.
 * wins a final 8 prize.
 * wins a final 8 prize and the FL prize for 11 featured lists.
 * wins the most prizes: a final 8 prize, the GA prize for 41 good articles, and the topic prize for a 13-article good topic and an 8-article featured topic, both in round 3.
 * wins the news prize for the most news articles in round 3.

We warmly invite all of you to sign up for next year's competition. Discussions and polls concerning potential rules changes are also open, and all are welcome to participate. The WikiCup judges will be back in touch over the coming months, and we hope to see you all in the 2016 competition. Until then, it only remains to once again congratulate our worthy winners, and thank all participants for their involvement! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send.

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Your GA nomination of Lovejoy Columns
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Lovejoy Columns you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Maile66 -- Maile66 (talk) 23:21, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 23:23, 8 November 2015 (UTC)


 * It's on hold. Everything is fine, except some details that need to be dealt with on the images. — Maile  (talk) 23:38, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Lovejoy Columns
The article Lovejoy Columns you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold. The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Lovejoy Columns for things which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Maile66 -- Maile66 (talk) 23:40, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Lovejoy Columns
The article Lovejoy Columns you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Lovejoy Columns for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. — Maile (talk) 13:16, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

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Many thanks for your attention to the articles about Oregon education agencies! I appreciate your help, as always. Grand&#39;mere Eugene (talk) 02:15, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
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FSU Articles
Hi how are you? I've noticed your work on various articles and I was wondering if you could steer me in the right direction. I have taken over as primary editor for Wikipedia:WikiProject Florida State University and all the articles related to Florida State University. I have finished up a few articles that were stubs before but now I feel like they should be assessed by someone but I don't know how to go about this. Could you please help me out? Thank you very much and sorry I'm a newbie on wikipedia--SeminoleNation (talk) 17:37, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
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Hi, I have declined your WP:G6 (db-disambig) request at Justin bieber purpose. Firstly this is a redirect not a disambiguation page. Secondly it has recently been kept here. It is good practice to check the talk page for previous discussions before nominating for deletion. Thanks. Just Chilling (talk) 23:54, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
 * First, apologies for marking the page as a disambiguation page. I realized my mistake right after tagging the article, but figured an admin would still judge whether or not the redirect served a purposes. I did fail to see the talk page, so thanks for the reminder. I still think the redirect is pointless, but I don't feel strongly about deleting redirects if others believe they serve a purpose. Thanks for your assistance. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 00:00, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

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I came across this on your "projects" subpage and I just wanted to let you know that I changed it from a redirect to a full article. Have a nice night.  Erpert  blah, blah, blah... 04:01, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
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Thanks for the encouragement. I agree. It's probably ready, or nearly so, for GA. I don't own a copy of the book-length biography, but I could always borrow it again from the library if need be. Finetooth (talk) 16:58, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

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Nomination of Jeff the Diseased Lung for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Jeff the Diseased Lung is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

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3RR Warning
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war&#32; according to the reverts you have made on seedfeeder. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement. Please be particularly aware that Wikipedia's policy on edit warring states: If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. Seedfeeder Fan (talk) 19:06, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
 * 1) Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made.
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 * Whoever this enthusiastic is, he is no WP:Newbie. WP:Newbies don't show up issuing WP:3RR warnings. And, clearly, he is the IP who was making the same problematic edits. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 20:48, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes, I assumed the editor was not a newbie, though I don't know why an alt name is necessary. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 20:53, 25 November 2015 (UTC)


 * You mean you don't know why the IP signed up with the registered account he is currently using? Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 20:56, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
 * I mean, if this is a more experienced editor, why edit as an IP or an alternate name instead of an existing account? I don't want to overthink this. I am happy to continue a discussion about specific edits on the article's talk page. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:04, 25 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Yes, I was alluding to you meaning that. The "whys" of this point to past problematic editing. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 14:45, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

I just realized that you created the article Seedfeeder, so I wanted to thank you for that. I guess you may be suffering a little from WP:OWN, and I can appreciate that. So let's discuss the merits of the edits, and see how we can improve the article, which is our mutual objective. --Seedfeeder Fan (talk) 23:17, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
 * I am not suffering from anything. I just disagree with your edits. I am willing to discuss on the article's talk page as evidenced by the face that I began a discussion there. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:52, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

Nomination of Janrain for deletion
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Street art
I'm a little concerned about some of the articles on street art you;ve been writing--the sources don't seem adequate to me, and at first glance I do not see that the artists are notable. Local travel guides and the like are not really good sources for the notability of art, but there has been some difficulty in establishing criteria in this area, as they are less apt to be covered by theusual art sources unless the artists are famous. Perhaps you can find some more to add.  DGG ( talk ) 05:21, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
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Replaceable fair use File:Tri It, Portland, Oregon, 2015.jpg
Thanks for uploading File:Tri It, Portland, Oregon, 2015.jpg. I noticed that this file is being used under a claim of fair use. However, I think that the way it is being used fails the first non-free content criterion. This criterion states that files used under claims of fair use may have no free equivalent; in other words, if the file could be adequately covered by a freely-licensed file or by text alone, then it may not be used on Wikipedia. If you believe this file is not replaceable, please:


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 * Thanks for the notice. I have been uploading images of contemporary sculptures and murals at Wikipedia for years, but only recently have I started getting notifications questioning their appropriateness (see above). All I can say is, this is a contemporary work of art. I am not sure of its copyright status, but I thought we could upload one fair use image of works of art at English Wikipedia (not Commons). I took this picture myself and don't have a preference for how it is used. I just want to illustrate the Wikipedia article about the mural. Does that help? --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 22:00, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
 * If I add the "Non-free fair use" template to the image, does that address your concern? I am not sure of the differences between 2D art and 3D sculpture. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 22:03, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
 * I don't know if this will resolve your specific issues, but what's called "Freedom of Panorama" does not generally extend in the United States to three-dimensional works of art. You'll find explanations and examples here. A local example would be a photo I uploaded to the East Bank Esplanade article some years ago. Because it included the Vera Katz sculpture near the Hawthorne Bridge, it was removed as a copyvio. Finetooth (talk) 00:39, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Finetooth, but this image is actually about a 2D work of art (mural). Most of the images I upload are of 3D works of art (sculpture). I've uploaded images of both for years, but only recently have they started being tagged. I wonder if the upload process has changed? I don't think I am skipping any parameters when using the upload wizard. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 00:41, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I don't think an automated process (the wizard) can make decisions about what is protected by copyright. It might be that no human until recently has looked closely at the licenses you used for images of sculptures and other 3D works of art. Finetooth (talk) 00:54, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
 * On the other hand, I don't see what the problem is with your fair-use licensing of the mural. Finetooth (talk) 01:17, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Neither do I., you tagged the mural as failing the first fair use criterion, but didn't say why. Could you help us out and elaborate why it doesn't qualify in your opinion? L.tak (talk) 20:31, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I've put a pointer to this discussion on the talk page for the file. You might want to continue the discussion there (and copy the discussion so far to there as well).  I also agree that this image seems to meet the fair use requirements.  It is a 4.7 Mpixel file, but noise, moire, compression, and a partially obstructed view make this image unlikely to impinge on the "original market role of the original copyrighted material" while being useful for the article's intent, to "significantly increase readers' understanding of the article topic". Generic1139 (talk) 22:12, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

Hi, I reviewed this image and have removed the tag. The above discussion is correct that no free alternative can be created, since this is a copyrighted mural. Future Perfect at Sunrise may have mistaken it as a non-free image of a building, which would be eligible for deletion under the tag that was placed on the description place.

I would just like to point out two things. Another Believer, although the mural is copyrighted, your photograph itself also needs a license, preferably under one listed at WP:ICTIC. You can add it to the description page and make the distinction like so:

Additionally, as a non-free file, it is currently too large under WP:NFCCb. You may want to consider cropping the photo to focus on the mural and decreasing its resolution. — ξ <sup style="color:#000000;">xplicit  05:47, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Send My Love (To Your New Lover)


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 * AB: Normally, I'm happy to visit articles that you have worked hard on to rescue them from the deletion squads, but in this case, I looked at the latest non-redirect version of these song articles and believe that they did not come close to meeting WP:NSONG yet. If any of the songs receive real coverage in reliable sources, they could be restored. In other words, we have to wait for coverage to develop rather than assuming that there are sources out there and letting the article develop naturally. – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:03, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks, but I did not expand these articles (though I did create the redirects). I don't think deletion is necessary because the redirects serve a purpose, so, if anything, these pages can just be reverted to their state as redirects. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 08:53, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Update: I see now that the articles have all been redirected. I don't have a problem with this if notability is not yet established. I just didn't want to see the pages deleted because the redirects are helpful. Thanks for the note! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 08:57, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nomination of Radisson Blu Hotel Shanghai New World
Hello Another Believer,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Radisson Blu Hotel Shanghai New World for deletion, because it seems to be promotional, rather than an encyclopedia article.

If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can contest this deletion, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. ubiquity (talk) 22:17, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

 * Thanks! I had hoped to create 5 articles throughout the month. On the plus side, I've just returned from Shanghai and hope to improve some articles about the city soon. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 14:58, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

Janrain

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Nomination for deletion of Template:TriMet Rail System navbox
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Season's Greetings
To You and Yours! FWiW Bzuk (talk) 21:36, 20 December 2015 (UTC)


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Proposed deletion of Wrist (song)


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Proposed deletion of Little More (Royalty)


The article Little More (Royalty) has been proposed for deletion&#32; because of the following concern:
 * Non-notable release, fails WP:NSONGS.

While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on |the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion.  Azealia 911   talk  00:03, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

Jeff the Diseased Lung
I reverted your changes to "redirect'. The AFD decision was "merge", not "retitle and screw around". Have a problem? Try WP:DRV -- which is YOUR responsibility, not of those maintaining the status quo.--Calton | Talk 12:24, 23 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I disagree. We should applaud attempts to expand articles. I've reverted the redirect and re-nominated the article at AfD to force another discussion. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:55, 23 December 2015 (UTC)


 * This isn't a matter of "disagree", it's a matter of how things are done around here. You don't get to unilaterally ignore consensus. So, once again: Have a problem? Try WP:DRV -- which is YOUR responsibility, not of those maintaining the status quo.--Calton | Talk 04:10, 24 December 2015 (UTC)
 * All the eye-rolling... --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 04:23, 24 December 2015 (UTC)

✅ --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:48, 24 December 2015 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Citizen Trump


The article Citizen Trump has been proposed for deletion&#32; because of the following concern:
 * A cable-news TV special, airing TODAY, and propped by a single newspaper preview listing. Not even *close* to meeting notability guidelines, even technically.

While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on |the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Calton | Talk 12:29, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

A beer for you!

 * Thanks, cheers! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 17:07, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

Season's greetings


My best wishes to you and yours in this holiday season and in the year ahead. Finetooth (talk) 18:08, 23 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Thanks so much, Finetooth! Season's greetings to you as well :) --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 19:03, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

Merry Christmas and happy new year
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Merry Christmas and happy new year. (: --<span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#008C3A 0.1em 0.1em 1.5em,#01796F -0.1em -0.1em 1.5em;"><b style="color:#01796F;">Pine</b><sup style="color:#01796F;">✉
 * Thank you, Pine! I hope you are having a wonderful holiday season. Wishing you the best as we enter a new year! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 22:07, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Eaten Alive (TV special)
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Eaten Alive (TV special) you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Johanna -- Johanna (talk) 01:01, 24 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads up! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 04:23, 24 December 2015 (UTC)

Nomination of Citizen Trump for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Citizen Trump is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Citizen Trump until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Calton | Talk 04:11, 24 December 2015 (UTC)


 * What part of Feel free to edit the article, but the article must not be blanked, and this notice must not be removed, until the discussion is closed.  was unclear? --Calton | Talk 16:02, 25 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I took what I thought was an appropriate action. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 19:33, 25 December 2015 (UTC)

Spirit of the American Range - GOCE Copy Edit
Hello Another Believer:

Hello: The copy edit you requested by the Guild of Copy Editors of the article Spirit of the American Range has been completed. Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns. You'll notice that I archived a couple of your citations - 1 and 2 - and I would strongly suggest that you archive the rest as time allows. This ensures your article's references are available "forever". The site I use is https://archive.org/web/. Simply copy the url in your citation and paste it in the box on the archive.org site and click save. It creates a copy of the original page and provides you with a new url to add to your original citation. If you look at one of the url's I've archived you'll see the syntax. You add the new url to the end of the original citation like this: |archiveurl= http etc|archivedate=D M Year}} Not all websites allow archiving - CBS TV news and the NY Times are two I've come across, so there's not much you can do about that unless there is an alternate citation you could use. Kind regards.Twofingered Typist (talk) 14:58, 24 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your time and assistance, and for explaining the archive process. Happy holidays! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:29, 24 December 2015 (UTC)

Speedy deletes
Hi. I've just tagged 3 of your articles on gay bars with speedy delete, as I did not feel that they met WP:GNG per WP:ORGDEPTH. Ping me if you have comments. Dschslava (talk) 22:34, 27 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Repsonded on user's talk page. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:31, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Round-Up Saloon
Hello Another Believer,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Round-Up Saloon for deletion, because it seems to be inappropriate for a variety of reasons.

If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can contest this deletion, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Dschslava (talk) 22:32, 27 December 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:30, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Club Masque
Hello Another Believer,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Club Masque for deletion, because the article doesn't clearly say why the subject is important enough to be included in an encyclopedia.

If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can contest this deletion, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Dschslava (talk) 22:33, 27 December 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 03:37, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Tin Room
Hello Another Believer,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Tin Room for deletion, because the article doesn't clearly say why the subject is important enough to be included in an encyclopedia.

If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can contest this deletion, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Dschslava (talk) 22:33, 27 December 2015 (UTC)


 * ✅ --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:30, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Denver Wrangler


A tag has been placed on Denver Wrangler, requesting that it be deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under two or more of the criteria for speedy deletion, by which articles can be deleted at any time, without discussion. If the page meets any of these strictly-defined criteria, then it may be soon be deleted by an administrator. The reasons it has been tagged are:
 * It seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. (See section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion.) Please read the guidelines on spam and FAQ/Business for more information.
 * It appears to be about a person, organization (band, club, company, etc.), individual animal, or web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. (See section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion.) Such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here.  DGG ( talk ) 20:33, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Consider doing some research before marking an article for speedy delete. It appears someone already removed the speedy tag before I finished my "contested deletion" comment on the talk page, but I posted some additional sources there. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 20:56, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:15, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

Nomination of Denver Wrangler for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Denver Wrangler is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Denver Wrangler until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article.  DGG ( talk ) 22:39, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

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Teeth (song)

 * Thank you so much for your time and assistance! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 23:51, 31 December 2015 (UTC)