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Your GA nomination of Bell Tower (University of Portland)
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Your GA nomination of Bell Tower (University of Portland)
The article Bell Tower (University of Portland) you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold. The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Bell Tower (University of Portland) for things which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Hawkeye7 -- Hawkeye7 (talk) 23:01, 1 December 2018 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Bell Tower (University of Portland)
The article Bell Tower (University of Portland) you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Bell Tower (University of Portland) for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Hawkeye7 -- Hawkeye7 (talk) 00:41, 2 December 2018 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – December 2018
News and updates for administrators from the past month (November 2018). Administrator changes
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 * Following a request for comment, the Mediation Committee is now closed and will no longer be accepting case requests.
 * A request for comment is in progress to determine whether members of the Bot Approvals Group should satisfy activity requirements in order to remain in that role.
 * A request for comment is in progress regarding whether to change the administrator inactivity policy, such that administrators "who have made no logged administrative actions for at least 12 months may be desysopped". Currently, the policy states that administrators "who have made neither edits nor administrative actions for at least 12 months may be desysopped".
 * A proposal has been made to temporarily restrict editing of the Main Page to interface administrators in order to mitigate the impact of compromised accounts.

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 * Administrators and bureaucrats can no longer unblock themselves unless they placed the block initially. This change has been implemented globally. See also this ongoing village pump discussion (permalink).
 * To complement the aforementioned change, blocked administrators will soon have the ability to block the administrator that placed their block to mitigate the possibility of a compromised administrator account blocking all other active administrators.
 * Since deployment of Partial blocks on Test Wikipedia, several bugs were identified. Most of them are now fixed. Administrators are encouraged to test the new deployment and report new bugs on Phabricator or leave feedback on the Project's talk page. You can request administrator access on the Test Wiki here.

Arbitration
 * Voting in the 2018 Arbitration Committee Elections is open to eligible editors until Monday 23:59, 3 December 2018. Please review the candidates and, if you wish to do so, submit your choices on the voting page.

Miscellaneous
 * In late November, an attacker compromised multiple accounts, including at least four administrator accounts, and used them to vandalize Wikipedia. If you have ever used your current password on any other website, you should change it immediately. Sharing the same password across multiple websites makes your account vulnerable, especially if your password was used on a website that suffered a data breach. As these incidents have shown, these concerns are not pure fantasies.
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Obituaries
 * (Raymond Arritt) passed away on 14 November 2018. Boris joined Wikipedia as on 8 May 2006 and was an administrator from 30 July 2007 to 2 June 2008.

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A Star Is Born soundtrack
Hi AB, can I request your eyes on the credit section of A Star Is Born and see if it can be rearranged better and divided into subsection? I cannot seem to find a way to do it :( — IB [ Poke ] 14:01, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
 * To be honest, most of the time I create a Personnel section, I do so as a simple list (like the current version) unless I see credits in another format. Sometimes production personnel are separated out. I do notice some of the entries need to be converted to lower case after the endashes, but otherwise, we might need to look at the album's liner notes to see if any subsections or other ways to organize the names would be appropriate. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:01, 5 December 2018 (UTC)

Nomination of A Tremor of Bliss for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article A Tremor of Bliss is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/A Tremor of Bliss until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Qwirkle (talk) 21:03, 6 December 2018 (UTC)

Weather machine scheduled for TFA
This is to let you know that the Weather machine article has been scheduled to be rerun as today's featured article for January 6, 2019 (previously run on January 6, 2014). Please check the article needs no amendments. If you're interested in editing the main page text, you're welcome to do so at Today's featured article/January 6, 2019, but note that a coordinator will trim the lead to around 1000 characters anyway, so you aren't obliged to do so.

We also suggest that you watchlist Main Page/Errors on the day before and the day of this TFA. Thanks! Jimfbleak - talk to me?  14:17, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads up! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 19:13, 8 December 2018 (UTC)

Precious anniversary
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:27, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the article! - Looks like they pick the TFA by the precious date ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:15, 6 January 2019 (UTC)

Eric Clapton's Happy Xmas Album
The interview I quoted from is all about the album - Clapton explains the way the album was made, and tells interesting (IMHO) stories about all the songs. It isn't "too much content from a single source" because everything I wrote is taken from one 50-minute video. Since I am obviously not English, you're free to rewrite those contents in a more stylisitically correct way, but I very frankly can't see the point in removing all of it. Ugo1970 (talk) 18:01, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
 * I stand by my edit -- there was way too much content being sourced by one interview. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 18:05, 9 December 2018 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Draft:The Conjugal Conjecture


A tag has been placed on Draft:The Conjugal Conjecture requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done for the following reason:

"Swapped draft with mainspace redirect, this isn't necessary."

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Speedy deletion nomination of Draft:The Matrimonial Momentum


A tag has been placed on Draft:The Matrimonial Momentum requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done for the following reason:

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"Shallow" (Lady Gaga and Bradley Cooper song)
Hello:

The copy edit you requested from the Guild of Copy Editors of the article "Shallow" (Lady Gaga and Bradley Cooper song) has been completed.

In the Development and Composition section this sentence, "A slow-burning, country[19] and folk pop[20] power ballad, "Shallow" features instrumentation mainly from Nelson's acoustic guitar and Cooper's piano with Cooper and Gaga trading verses." In the film, as I recall, Cooper is only shown playing guitar on stage. If so "Cooper's" piano should read "Gaga's" piano. I'll leave this to you.

Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns.

Regards,

Twofingered Typist (talk) 14:52, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for reviewing the article. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 14:53, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
 * I just wanted to make sure you saw the above comment. Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 14:53, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes AB I saw it. Thanks for submitting it and I do apologize again for the nuisance I created around it. Still feel bad about throwing a fit :( — IB [ Poke ] 21:00, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Don't feel bad, we all have our moments of frustration. Just keep in mind, I'm never purposely trying to annoy you, I promise. Consider me a fan of your work, just trying to collaborate and help when I can. :) --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 00:40, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the kind words AB :) — IB [ Poke ] 13:40, 13 December 2018 (UTC)

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One-sentence articles
Why do these articles have only one sentence? And one entry in the infobox?


 * All Can Work
 * American Dreamers: Voices of Hope, Music of Freedom
 * Diamond Cut (Tia Fuller album)
 * Heart of Brazil
 * If You Really Want
 * Live in Europe (Fred Hersch album)
 * West Side Story Reimagined

Vmavanti (talk) 13:45, 12 December 2018 (UTC) Vmavanti (talk) 02:20, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
 * ... because someone hasn't added a second sentence yet? --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 15:35, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Is that a joke?

Nomination of I Remember Warsaw for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article I Remember Warsaw is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

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Category:Patriot Prayer has been nominated for discussion
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WikiProject X Newsletter • Issue 13
Newsletter • December 2018

This month: A general update.

The current status of the project is as follows:
 * Progress of the project has been generally delayed since September due to development issues (more bitrot than expected, some of the code just being genuinely confusing, etc) and personal injury (I suffered a concussion in October and was out of commission for almost two months as a result).
 * I currently expect to be putting out a proper call for CollaborationKit pilots in January/February, with estimated deployment in February/March if things don't go horribly wrong (they will, though, don't worry). As a part of that, I will properly update the page and send out announcement and reach out to all projects already signed up as pilots for WikiProject X in general, at which point those (still) interested can volunteer specifically to test the CollaborationKit extension.
 * WikiProject X/Pilots was originally created for the first WikiProject X prototype, and given this is where the project has since gone, it's only logical to continue to use it. While I haven't yet updated the page to properly reflect this:
 * If you want to add your project to this page now, feel free. Just bear in mind that more information what to actually expect will be added later/included in the announcement, because by then I will have a much better idea myself.
 * Until then, you can find me in my corner working on making the CollaborationKit code do what we want and not just what we told it, per the workboard.

Until next time,

-— Isarra ༆ 22:44, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

 * Wow, thanks! But, really, you're the one who put in more work, so I should be thanking you. :) --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:16, 22 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I know I created them but you done some work on them as well, you deserve this! The Optimistic One (talk) 16:18, 22 December 2018 (UTC)

... I Lose Myself moved to draftspace
As per discussion on talk page.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 17:10, 22 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Please move the draft back into the main space. Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 17:20, 22 December 2018 (UTC)

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Proposed deletion of File:NBBJ - logo.png


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Merry Christmas!

 * Thank you, and happy holidays! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:34, 26 December 2018 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Patriot Prayer
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Best wishes for a happy 2019

 * Thank you! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 19:41, 31 December 2018 (UTC)

Welcome to the 2019 WikiCup!
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Happy New Year!
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 Another Believer , Thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia, and a Happy New Year to you and yours! North America1000 14:28, 1 January 2019 (UTC)


 * – Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year}} to user talk pages.
 * Thank you! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 18:20, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

One-sentence articles revisited
I respectfully request that you cease creating articles which contain only one sentence. You have the experience on Wikipedia and the education outside of it to write an article of substance, fully sourced and consistent with Wikipedia rules and documentation. Why you have chosen to avoid doing so is unknown to me. Such a method amounts to piling unnecessary work onto the shoulders of busy editors. The most important currency we have is time. I would like to see editors spend their time more wisely rather than be smothered by pointless busywork. Cheers, mate. It's a good day to turn over a new maple leaf, eh? Vmavanti (talk) 20:04, 1 January 2019 (UTC) Vmavanti (talk) 00:25, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
 * : What work is being created for other busy editors? If you could be specific about some task that this editor or another willing editor can add to their article creation process and thereby reduce the burden that you claim exists, that would be helpful information. Is there some guideline or policy being violated by the creation of these new stub articles? Many excellent articles have begun as very short stubs. – Jonesey95 (talk) 22:00, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Come on. Don't call me a stalker. On what page should I have brought up this subject?
 * I thought I was talking to AnotherBeliever. I don't know if you are breaking any rules or not. That's not the point. I work on the jazz Cleanup Listing which is released every Tuesday here. Most of the work is done by me and another guy. There are nearly 4500 articles that require serious work. This backlog goes back ten years. There are at least two approaches: to clean up problems and to prevent them from recurring. This latter role necessarily involves a degree of correction. One correction I would like to make is encouraging people to avoid creating stubs. An experienced editor, a mature, educated, responsible adult knows that a lot of effort goes into producing an article of substance. It's easy to create an article, add one sentence, then maybe a source, or not, then leave it to others to do the rest. I don't know where you grew up, but where I grew up that's called lazy and irresponsible. One doesn't volunteer others for work, particularly if one is capable of doing more. I'm not saying it has to be perfect. But is one sentence your idea of a good article?

Vmavanti (talk) 00:57, 2 January 2019 (UTC) Vmavanti (talk) 04:55, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
 * It's hard for me to take a comment like this seriously: "If you could be specific about some task that this editor or another willing editor can add". Yes, how about adding content? Is one sentence your idea of adequate content? The most recent Cleanup Listing (Jan 1, 2019) has six articles under "Context needed". They were created by AnotherBeliever. Every one of those articles is one sentence long. The infoboxes have one or two entries. Why isn't the point I'm making obvious? I'm getting this information from the Cleanup Listing, by the way, not from stalking Talk pages, and frankly that's a dumb, paranoid, insulting accusation. One sentence doesn't cut it. If someone handed you a broom to sweep a floor, how much of that floor would you sweep? Six inches? I'm genuinely curious about how this has become an acceptable practice on Wikipedia. I'm being generous by calling these articles inchoate. I can think of less flattering words. Either do more to give beginning articles a good foundation or don't create articles. Don't create crap. Capece?
 * Vmavanti, Jonesey95 was not calling you a talk page stalker, they were self-identifying as a talk page stalker. I acknowledge your request, but I won't commit to not creating stubs. Also, you make it sound like I create sub-stubs about jazz often, when really I just created a handful of stubs for albums recently nominated for Grammy Awards after viewing the list of nominees. Not a big deal, in my opinion, and these articles will be fleshed out at some point. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:23, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the clarification. But what's the problem? I have a ten year old backlog of almost 5000 articles which someone created, probably thinking they "will be fleshed out at some point". It's the old "If not me, who?" and "If not now, when"? Woulda, coulda, shoulda, as a friend of mine used to say years ago.
 * Dropping in after this is collapsed to point to this recent consensus saying that keeping (as opposed to userfying or draftifying or deleting) short stub articles about notable topics have the support of the community. – Jonesey95 (talk) 10:33, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
 * However, that "keep" consensus takes nothing away from the position put forth above – and with which I agree – that such "articles" should not have been created in the first place. SJ Morg (talk) 12:12, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
 * From the consensus summary: any mainspace content is better than hiding it away in draft or user space. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:21, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Editors will forever disagree about stubs. I don't have a problem with them and believe having something is better than nothing. Call me lazy, that's fine, but I will continue to create stubs when I believe a notable topic has been overlooked. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 19:23, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – January 2019
News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2018).

Administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg Galobtter
 * Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg Orangemike
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg BorgQueen •  Davidruben • Ocee • Revolving Bugbear • Theda • There'sNoTime • Timc • Tijuana Brass • Tristessa de St Ange

Bureaucrat changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Addshore



CheckUser changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg Joe Roe • SilkTork
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Euryalus • Newyorkbrad • There'sNoTime

Oversight changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg AGK • Joe Roe • SilkTork
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Euryalus • Newyorkbrad • There'sNoTime

Guideline and policy news
 * There are a number of new or changed speedy deletion criteria, each previously part of WP:CSD:
 * G14 (new): Disambiguation pages that disambiguate only zero or one existing pages are now covered under the new G14 criterion (discussion). This is db-disambig; the text is unchanged and candidates may be found in Category:Candidates for speedy deletion as unnecessary disambiguation pages.
 * R4 (new): Redirects in the file namespace (and no file links) that have the same name as a file or redirect at Commons are now covered under the new R4 criterion (discussion).  This is db-redircom; the text is unchanged.
 * G13 (expanded): Userspace drafts containing only the default Article Wizard text are now covered under G13 along with other drafts (discussion). Such blank drafts are now eligible after six months rather than one year, and taggers continue to use db-blankdraft.
 * The Wikimedia Foundation now requires all interface administrators to enable two-factor authentication.
 * Members of the Bot Approvals Group (BAG) are now subject to an activity requirement. After two years without any bot-related activity (e.g. operating a bot, posting on a bot-related talk page), BAG members will be retired from BAG following a one-week notice.

Technical news
 * Starting on December 13, the Wikimedia Foundation security team implemented new password policy and requirements. Privileged accounts (administrators, bureaucrats, checkusers, oversighters, interface administrators, bots, edit filter managers/helpers, template editors, et al.) must have a password at least 10 characters in length . All accounts must have a password:
 * At least 8 characters in length
 * Not in the 100,000 most popular passwords (defined by the [//github.com/wikimedia/password-blacklist Password Blacklist library])
 * Different from their username
 * User accounts not meeting these requirements will be prompted to update their password accordingly. More information is available on MediaWiki.org.
 * Blocked administrators may now block the administrator that blocked them. This was done to mitigate the possibility that a compromised administrator account would block all other active administrators, complementing the removal of the ability to unblock oneself outside of self-imposed blocks. A request for comment is currently in progress to determine whether the blocking policy should be updated regarding this change.
 * Copyvio-revdel now has a link to open the history with the RevDel checkboxes already filled in.

Arbitration
 * Following the 2018 Arbitration Committee elections, the following editors have been appointed to the Arbitration Committee:, , , , ,.

Miscellaneous
 * Accounts continue to be compromised on a regular basis. Evidence shows this is entirely due to the accounts having the same password that was used on another website that suffered a data breach. If you have ever used your current password on any other website, you should change it immediately.
 * Around 22% of admins have enabled two-factor authentication, up from 20% in June 2018. If you haven't already enabled it, please consider doing so. Regardless of whether you use 2FA, please practice appropriate account security by ensuring your password is secure and unique to Wikimedia.

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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 21:38, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

I'd be glad for some support
Talk:District of Columbia (until 1871). As I see it, WP had no article on the District of Columbia, and there should be one. No other article does it. It's this sort of thing that gets me quite discouraged.

Also Talk:Encyclopaedia Britannica, but that one I’ve given up on. deisenbe (talk) 19:44, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I think I'll let others decide, but I've posted requests for feedback at WikiProjects United States and Washington, D.C. Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 00:35, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

American Dreamers: Voices of Hope, Music of Freedom
Hi and thanks for your help. I am just getting to learn my way around and wasn't finished with the wiki page information you deleted. I was still putting information under the correct headings and making sure all my cited links were correct.Asr1014 (talk) 00:55, 5 January 2019 (UTC)) Vmavanti (talk) 01:34, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Sure, just please don't continue to use the official website as a source. Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:33, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
 * You might want to take a look at this article as well. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:33, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
 * What about it?
 * Thought you might like to see the expansion of one of the stubs mentioned above. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 18:23, 5 January 2019 (UTC)

Thanks! I was unaware that official website are not sources and will replace with citation from outside publications.(Asr1014 (talk) 01:37, 5 January 2019 (UTC))
 * Yes, please do! Sources like newspaper and journal/magazine articles are acceptable. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:39, 5 January 2019 (UTC)

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Liberty Bell
Hello Another Believer ! As you know, I'm trying to translate the article of the Portland's bell and I've got few questions / remarks : Merci d'avance ! --TaupeGun (talk) 09:10, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
 * About the fact that the bell is 25-year guarantee against breakage. According to the reference n°2 (Bell cost $8,000), I understand that the guarantee is for the first replica, not the second.
 * Good catch! I've made this change to the article's text. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 15:45, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
 * About the Oregon Department of Veterans' Affairs (reference n°10), I don't find the bell on the list...
 * You are correct. I'm not sure why the bell is no longer mentioned, but this map feature is new, so perhaps the website is still being updated? --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 15:50, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I can't access freely to the reference n°5 (Chicago Tribune), can you give me copy or an extract from the article? It could help me more :)
 * I'm not sure how I was able to access contents before, but I am not able to do so now. :( --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 15:50, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Do you have any informations about how the decision to buy a Liberty Bell replica in 1962 was made?
 * I included as much information as I could find in the article. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 15:50, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your work on the French article, and for your comments here. I wish I had better answers. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 15:50, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Wanted to make sure you saw these comments as well (since you worked on the PT Wikipedia article), in case you are able to view of the sources. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:16, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

Bummer, I remember the bell being listed on the Oregon Department of Veterans' Affairs website, but now I'm wondering if this sentence should be removed since the website does not currently list the bell as a memorial. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:24, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Good news, the information can still be accessed with the internet archive ! --TaupeGun (talk) 17:12, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Good find! I've updated the article accordingly. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 17:20, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

I've found this : according to this source from the Portland website, the second replica was located at the Terry Schrunk Park before. What do you think? --TaupeGun (talk) 18:18, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Hmm, this is confusing. I updated the article, but I need to do more research re: Terry Schrunk Plaza. I've also posted a note on the article's talk page. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 18:31, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

Trump Oval Office Speech
I thought what I just added was a transcript. I see now that it was a "fact sheet" and not a transcript. Checked at the WhiteHouse.gov site and could not find an official transcript. Anyway, thanks for the move. ― Buster7  &#9742;   20:22, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
 * No prob! Regardless of the page's contents, I figured we should stick to secondary coverage for inline citations and official websites for the EL section. I'm curious to see if this article lasts longterm (see talk page discussion). Happy editing! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 20:24, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Any presidents first Oval Office speech is usually a big deal. Not sure why this is different but, as you infer, we'll see if it stays. TC.&#8213; Buster7  &#9742;   20:29, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

Template coding
Hello, and Happy New Year (2020?). Do you know template coding? Two templates, Evelyn De Morgan and Daniel Chester French are both missing their "view, edit" links at the top left. Can't figure it out, so wondering if you or someone else can reveal the nonexistent buttons. Thanks. Randy Kryn (talk) 13:09, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Hmm, I'm afraid I don't know the solution here, except to find a similar template and compare code. I assumed navboxes displayed these links automatically. If you can't figure it out, maybe post a quick note here? --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 14:20, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks, will do. I've already looked at the coding of it and other templates, nothing there (at least what I can see). Randy Kryn (talk) 14:22, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I fixed the Daniel Chester French template by correcting the top 2 lines. Will look at the Evelyn De Morgan template as well. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 14:28, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅ --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 14:30, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I'll check the changes out for future use (missed whatever you caught, my eyes must be in the shop). Randy Kryn (talk) 14:39, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Glad I could help! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 14:40, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

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...for acknowledging my work on translating Lady Gaga articles. I've been working on other articles related to her too, but I still need to do some minor corrections. "Applause" and "Perfect Illusion" are currently nominated for a GA status too. Thank you again, I appreciate that my efforts are being valued! Happy editing. --Gabrielflorin01 (talk) 07:35, 11 January 2019 (UTC)

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FYI
Hi, thanks for adding template:done to my comment. Your probably know this, but in case you don't, in the spirit of "don't foget to use the seatbelt" some eds will not take kindly to tweaking their talk page comments. See the WP:TPG if this is a new thought. In this case, I should have thought of doing that myself, and I do appreciate you adding it! Have a happy NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 10:32, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Not sure what diff you're referring to, and I don't usually change other editors' comments, but thanks for the note. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 18:17, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Heh. My mistake!  IT was this diff and I must have been in a hurry because the housekeeping things you did were not what I said and in it turns out long ago I added that Done template myself!  After the passage of time and looking at today's diff you put up, I don't know why I at first read it like I did.  Oh well.  Thanks for your continued interest at the article and I'm sorry I bothered you! NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 18:49, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
 * No worries! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 18:52, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

TFL notification
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 * Thanks for the heads up! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 19:25, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

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Flickr as a source?
Hi Another Believer,

Question about sources - since TriMet opted to use Flickr to update folks on the PMLR project, how would we use it in a citation, if possible? I'm more after the picture's caption and the date it was posted to indicate approximate construction start date. Here is the link. --Truflip99 (talk) 19:39, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Hmm, I'm not sure I'd use Flickr as a source for any inline citation, but User:SounderBruce may have an opinion on whether or not Flickr can be used as official confirmation by TriMet. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 19:43, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
 * This is regarding Southeast Bybee Boulevard station. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 19:43, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm leaning towards saying that Flickr (even from an official post) would be a less-than-worthy source. Surely the construction updates were provided on a real webpage or mailer that is archived on the Wayback Machine. I'd even consider a tweet from TriMet to be more worthy.  Sounder Bruce  22:48, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Agreed. Hope this feedback helps. --- Another Believer  ( Talk ) 23:04, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you both. --Truflip99 (talk) 15:26, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

Infobox DS alert
SarahSV (talk) 19:36, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Not sure what this means but ok... --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 19:38, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
 * It's because you added an infobox to a featured article that didn't have one, and shrank the image to accommodate it while the image size is being discussed on talk. That kind of thing is covered by discretionary sanctions, but for it to be actionable, we have to post these DS-alert templates. My apologies for using the template when I'd prefer just to leave a note. SarahSV (talk) 20:12, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Hmm, ok. Thanks for clarifying. FWIW, image widths can be defined within the infobox. Frustrating editors are immediately opposing infobox inclusion simply because the default image width is smaller. The 600px-wide lead image looks ridiculous. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 20:15, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Just to be clear, I'm not acting as an admin here. I'm posting the alert only to make sure you're aware the article is covered by DS, because the DS rules require it. As for the image size, I don't know what you see on your brower, but on mine it looked tiny. Normally 300px is large enough for the lead, but in this case it isn't working for some reason. When you factor in that the article is about the image, you can see why the main editors want a larger size. SarahSV (talk) 20:26, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I understand, and appreciate the notification, just so I'm aware. I'm not set on 300px, but I'm just saying what Wikipedia's manual of style says, and the article could benefit from having an infobox. But, I'm done caring and I'm moving on to other articles now. Happy editing! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 20:32, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

FYI created a list
I created List of United States cannabis regulatory agencies after creating New York Office of Cannabis Management and realized the compendium had not been done. ☆ Bri (talk) 19:33, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads up! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 20:19, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
 * A few existing agencies could be added to the WPC redlist for WP:420.
 * Massachusetts Cannabis Control Commission
 * Michigan Bureau of Marijuana Regulation
 * Commonwealth of Northern Mariana Islands Cannabis Commission
 * Tulalip Tribal Cannabis Agency
 * Plus a few more that are as-yet unnamed.
 * Maine cannabis regulatory agency (in rulemaking)
 * District of Columbia cannabis regulatory agency (via 2019 proposed legislation)
 * I might go do this later today. ☆ Bri (talk) 22:14, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Seems you've added, so I'll collapse this for now. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:16, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

Us
I would like to bury the hatchet. We got off to a bad start on the Bacon micro stubs way back, and it went to bad from worse from there. Life is very short, and we obviously have a lot of shared interests, so olive branch. To your credit, and I fully acknowledge, the infobox on the Goya you were offering was about as minimalist as I've seen; Malevich would have been impressed! But he is dead and we are not. Who knows, we may be able to offer each other advice on various projects. <font color="#006633">Ceoil (talk) 20:41, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
 * More than happy to bury the hatchet. We may have disagreed, but we both meant well, and want Wikipedia to be the best possible project. My suggestions for the Goya artwork article were just recommendations based on what I thought were artwork article standards, and I'm perfectly fine with editors disagreeing. Olive branch accepted, and I hope we can work together on other articles. Happy editing! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 20:51, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm delighted, this was long overdue. Happy editing also. <font color="#006633">Ceoil (talk) 20:52, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Now that we are friends, can I say that where the problem on the Goya talk arose was the insistent pushing of "artwork article standards". Yes I see the need for them, and 99% of the time follow, but in instances reader utility is more important and necessitates ignoring all rules. That article took 10 years to take to FAC, in part because I'm a lazy bastard, but mostly because presenting the images was extremely difficult with wiki mark up, which seems exclusively designed for portrait formatted images. Grr! <font color="#006633">Ceoil (talk) 21:03, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I totally understand. I wasn't really trying to go against consensus, but I was getting frustrated when I would ask "but why?", and people would reply, "because", without really giving reasons or pointing to when/where decisions had been made. I was more trying to get feedback than attempting to implement my preferences. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 22:59, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes, ok that makes sense, and made worse by the fact that in the past were talking past each with an ears closed approach to "discussion". We are both frustrated by this so lets not do it any more. As a practice measure, so we dont become so again distant, if you have an issue with a page of interest, raise it on my talk page, and well take it together from there. <font color="#006633">Ceoil (talk) 23:15, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
 * ps: I think your a pretty damn fine and dedicated editor otherwise. <font color="#006633">Ceoil (talk) 23:17, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 00:41, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

Archive puzzlement
I can't find the history for the hatted content in Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cannabis/420 Collaboration/Archive 1 ... can you help? ☆ Bri (talk) 00:11, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Seems to be around here. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 00:35, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

RfC discussion on List of 2017 articles that is really about proper use of Wikipedia:Article size. Requesting your time because I think a guideline is being misused
Please, I need your input. There is a conversation about splitting an article because of its size, but I don’t care which way you would vote on if it should be split or not. My issue is that the other editor and a companion-in-arms are misusing, mistranslating Article size. These two are reducing the size of the largest articles in Wikipedia, which sounds like a noble goal, but when I asked what limit there should be on an article size, the response was 100 kB characters. The Wiki-guideline does state that readable prose should be less than 100 kB, but readable prose is the article minus citations, lists, tables, footnotes, and images, so I find the interpretation dangerous. The other editor said to get articles down in size, a yearly list could be cut down in half, in quarters, or even monthly. I cannot picture the easy usage of lists that is divided by month for multiple years. The guideline mostly states lists and tables are excluded from the guideline, so my objection to the split is that there is no justification except a misused guideline.

Basically, I think these two editors are going beyond being useful in improving Wikipedia and are moving into damaging Wikipedia, so I would like you to come to Talk:List of 2017 albums, read the discussions in the two section above it, especially Talk:List of 2017 albums, and provide feedback. I do not care if you say split or oppose, but to me the discussion is not about the split but the misuse of the Article Size guideline, and I want your and others I respect feedback on the conversation and the proper use of the guideline. Mburrell (talk) 02:56, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

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Oscar Wilde
Hi Jason. It's not my image but I wonder why you reverted my edit. The picture I put in the article shows the whole sculpture, when seemed to me to be superior to the one that was there and that you have reverted. Have I missed something? It's normal to explain why the change you are reverting was a bad idea. Charlesjsharp (talk) 09:45, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Hello! I should have left an edit summary, but I thought the previous picture offered better clarity and detail. If you feel strongly, you can revert my revert. Happy editing! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 15:46, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

Lil Jon
Hi AB, you helped so much on my first major edit I was wondering if you can give the edits I made to "Lil Jon" page a good look. His recording label "BME Recordings" page was deleted although the label several owners and platinum albums released and redirected to his individual page. Also "Lil Jon and The Eastside Boys" page was deleted by a now blocked/deleted user. The group has a 10 year span of albums. By the time I added the information from both now it just seems crammed and left no place to add notable information specific to him. I'm sure i over quoted from some sources as well. Thanks in advance (Asr1014 (talk) 08:22, 29 January 2019 (UTC)).

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Proposed deletion of ZoomCare


The article ZoomCare has been proposed for deletion&#32;because of the following concern: "The available references are just press releases"

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 * Good grief... --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 19:24, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

Hope the edit-a-thon is going well!
Hi Jason, Sorry I wasn't able to attend at OSU today-- my annual physical got in my wat. But thanks for your attention to some articles I've also worked on. If you have time, maybe take a look also at William Tebeau, Mabel Byrd, and Yaa Gyasi. I'll be looking for more sources to develop them, too, but probably not today. Take care getting home--snow on the way! Cheers! — Grand&#39;mere Eugene (talk) 23:38, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks, and I'll take a look! But, actually, I'm participating remotely from home. Stay warm, --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 23:39, 8 February 2019 (UTC)

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Ivanka Vacuuming
I just created Ivanka Vacuuming. In looking at who created the redirect, I saw it was you! I promise two things: A. I'm not stalking you, and B. Wasn't trying to step on any toes if you were going to work on that. I saw the article on CNN, laughed, and saw there was a ton of coverage and reactions to it. Hope you're well! --Kbabej (talk) 19:24, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Hah, no worries at all! I'm glad you created the article. I had started a stub but then expanded the topic by starting Cultural depictions of Ivanka Trump. Happy editing! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 19:27, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

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The Subject Tonight Is Love
Please don't create stubs like this anymore: The Subject Tonight Is Love. You know why. Vmavanti (talk) 03:17, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm fine with my stub, thanks. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:05, 17 February 2019 (UTC)

Re-evals requested
FYI, re-evals requested. Does this automatically show up somewhere you watch? Should I alert you when I do this again? ☆ Bri (talk) 04:24, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
 * I don't see WikiProject assessments unless I have the article on my watchlist, nor do I pay attention to the low/mid/top-importance parameter. I mostly just pay attention to article quality rating. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:08, 17 February 2019 (UTC)

Picture


Hello. , is it Miriam A. Ferguson please?Zigzig20s (talk) 21:42, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
 * I think it may be the marble bust designed by Enrico Cerracchio.Zigzig20s (talk) 21:44, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm not 100% certain, but I think so since the inscription mentions first female governor of Texas. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 23:21, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
 * I don't see why there would be a second bust of this woman there.Zigzig20s (talk) 23:24, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
 * This source suggests you're correct about Ferguson and Cerracchio. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 23:27, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
 * OK, I've re-categorized it on Commons and added it to Cerracchio's WP article. Thank you for taking the picture!Zigzig20s (talk) 23:33, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Great, thank you! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 23:55, 17 February 2019 (UTC)

Portal/portal bar placement
Per my recent reverts of your edits on SurfSafe, I commend your attention to the respective template documentation.


 * Template:portal: "Within articles, this template is meant to be placed at the top of the article's See also section"


 * Template:portal bar: "Within articles, this template is usually placed at the bottom of the article, below navbars."

This makes sense as the bar is a full-page-width element; from a design perspective it looks awful in see-also where there's no other page-width element. Whereas, at the bottom of the page there's the navboxes, category box and authority control, all of which are also full-width, so it goes along with them just fine. Daniel Case (talk) 21:36, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I used to always place portal bars at the bottom of articles, but starting noticing editors moving to see also section, so I started following the trend. I'd much prefer to see a portal bar at the bottom of SurfSafe than a side bar adding additional white space to the see also section. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:52, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
 * I think, properly used, the box balances the list at the other side (It's also possible to just go to using portal-inline exclusively in see-also, but since that requires more effort, people are less willing to do it). Daniel Case (talk) 21:59, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
 * I dunno, I disagree, and tend to use the portal bar when a clear template is needed for the see also section to keep the references undisturbed. But I don't feel strongly enough to keep going back and forth about portals. Happy editing! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 22:00, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Or we could make portal optionally collapsible ... Daniel Case (talk) 22:05, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

Bay of Pigs Monument
I am not finding a whole lot about in terms of RS, but it looks notable to me. This is not reliable.Zigzig20s (talk) 02:48, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
 * I created a stub.Zigzig20s (talk) 08:24, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Great! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 15:12, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

Removing "See also" link
Hi you reverted a contribution on the basis that  below. That logic strikes me as a strong disservice to readers using a mobile interface or Wikipedia app, which hide various navigation features that display on the desktop site (like so). Recent stats (last 10 days) for that article indicate more mobile views than desktop views. Perhaps I'm biased as a regular reader on mobile, but I think it's important to account for different UX when crafting See also entries. I hope you'll reconsider this particular revert. — H ip L ibrarianship talk 03:47, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the note. I understand, but Manual_of_Style/Layout says, "As a general rule, the "See also" section should not repeat links that appear in the article's body or its navigation boxes." I was just trying to follow guidelines. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 03:50, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
 * The MOS:Layout guidelines make only a single reference to mobile, which seems unfortunate to me. Mobile access to English WP has consistently outpaced desktop access |line|2-Year|access~desktop*mobile-web since April 2018.  (Across all Wikimedia sites, the |line|2-Year|access~desktop*mobile-web trend begins November 2017.) I'm a big fan of Navigation boxes and Categories, but since noticing their absence on mobile, I've become fond of See also sections and templates. I typically prefer to edit rather than advocate for guideline changes, but I may bring this to WP:MOS:Talk for consideration. — H ip L ibrarianship  talk 04:51, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
 * By all means, feel free, and let me know if anything changes. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 17:03, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

Hotel Amour
Hi, I noticed you added a stub tag to the article Hotel Amour, but on the talk page you assessed the album as a start. Was this just an oversight? Thanks. Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 17:01, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
 * I often use 'rater' to automatically assess articles. So, yes, sorry for the discrepancy! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 17:02, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

Danielle Outlaw
Hi there

I happened upon Danielle Outlaw and saw what I was sure was an unsourced, no-reason-to-keep-edit, but looking over the history it seems the page is being improved by a few novice editors with help from some more experienced ones? I am not going to re-add the material, as it's still unsourced and badly written, but just want to apologize if I was too hasty. Hydromania (talk) 03:57, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
 * No problem. The article is currently being improved as part of an educational assignment, so I'm trying to leave talk page feedback and encourage editors to make further improvements. Feel free to edit the article as you see fit. Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 04:15, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

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